Signum system EC B&R (For Dummies)

[gizmotron]

This thread is for anyone that needs help understanding how to fill out the charts created by Mr Chips.

There are six columns from left to right:

Column 1 is the numerical number of the row and is significant of the order of spins.

Column 2 is the spin that hit on the wheel for that row.

Column 3 is the color of the number that hit from the wheel. The option is black, red, or green.

Column 4 is a statement of current value based on the value of the last spin and if a repeat occurred or not.

Column 5 is either M(+ or -),  P(+ or -), or 000. M stands for minus and P stands for plus.

1   15   B
2   23   R    -1
3   25   R     0      M-1
4   29   B    -1
5   25   R    -2      M-2
6   36   R    -1      M-3      +1
7   18   R     0      M-4      +2
8    0                               +1
9    0                                 0
10  32   R   +1     M-5       +1 ch
11  20   B     0     M-6       +2
12   0                               +1 ch
13   9    R    -1     M-7       +2 ch
14   6    B    -2     M-8       +3
15  16   R    -3     M-9       +4
16   0                               +3


I'm one of those confused by the presentation that was meant to communicate the understanding of this charting system.

I think that information in column 4 determines how to fill out column 5 values. Without that knowledge it's probably impossible to understand bet selection process and outcomes that populate column 6.

This thread does not require a defense of Mr Chips or even an explanation by him. It only needs to serve the purpose of shedding light on how column 4 relates to column 5. It might be nice to get to the next step too.

It will not bring down the internet to discuss this very narrow based topic here. After all that's what this forum is for.

So, if there is anyone that understands this charting system. It's OK if you have difficulties communicating.

I ask for an answer to these questions from the above example taken from the actual thread discussing it.

1. Why does row 3 become M-1 ?

2. Why does row 4 not become M-2 ?

3. Why does row 5 become M-2 ?

4. Why does row 6 become M-3 and  +1 in column 6

Now that should shed light on a lot if it can be discussed until everyone understands it. There are more questions too.

Anyone?

[Breeze88]

well i dont think iam leggit to answer your questions 100% correctly as iam still in the learning process..

but i will do ma best .. if anyone sees a mistake feel free to post the correct answer




1. Why does row 3 become M-1 ?

row 3 becomes M-1 because -1 and 0  shows for the very first time it cant be P+1 because its
no repeating pattern  like -1 . 0 .-1 . 0 .. and no new + or - number appeared therefore its M-1

2. Why does row 4 not become M-2 ?
because we dont know if either  -1 or +1 is coming in next ( thats only legit at the beginning of a session)

3. Why does row 5 become M-2 ?

because we have had a -1 at row 2 follwed by a 0 at row 3..
as we have a -1 again at row 4 and a -2 at row 5 appeared wich is not a reapeatin pattern like described at question 1 .. the M sybol increased .. to M-2

4. Why does row 6 become M-3 and  +1 in column 6

as we see that a M symbol trend is developing we bet that this will continue and therefore
we bet on no repeating patterns and on the case that the column 4 is not trending further ie. frum -2 to -3
as that would lead to a P symbol trend.. we have a -2 at the very first time so we simply dont bet on a -3 but instead on -1 .. (red) .. and it  came in...


hope its correct and clearer somehow..

[John1234]

What does 000 mean? I have not figured this out yet. I can't find an explanation on the site about 000

[Breeze88]

Hi John

OOO is a sort of place holder for the change from either M-1 to P+1 or vice versa .. that you know a change is either more likely to happen...

so before M-1 to P+1 happens a OOO signals that .. but its not neccesarly that a change occurs it can aslo happen that after M-1 ,  OOO another M-1 shows.. it gives you more nformation about the current session if its fragile and collapse or not...

[gizmotron]

I'm just guessing but I believe there must be a transitional state where the condition for plus or minus must have a neutral value that exist as neither plus nor minus. It's like zero when positive numbers are associated as above and minus numbers are associated as below.

I could be wrong though. The symbolism (syntax) appears to be clearly common.

[gizmotron]

quote<<<

1. Why does row 3 become M-1 ?

row 3 becomes M-1 because -1 and 0  shows for the very first time it cant be P+1 because its
no repeating pattern  like -1 . 0 .-1 . 0 .. and no new + or - number appeared therefore its M-1

2. Why does row 4 not become M-2 ?
because we dont know if either  -1 or +1 is coming in next ( thats only legit at the beginning of a session) >>>quote

OK. There appears to be a rule that you look back a specified number of spins for a pattern.  Is this number of spins looking back always the same? Is it two spins or four spins? What is the text about the use of looking back. Can it be copied from the website and reposted here? It's a critical part of the concept.

BTW, thank you.

[Breeze88]

Hey Gizmo


there is no speciufic rule how far to look back ..

because you have to take the very first number that occured before ie..

-1
0
-1  now we would look two spins back .. as -1 was the second spin wehn counted back...

you know when too look back .. because you want a dublication of spins that came in before
when a P symbol trend has developed because of dublications ...

you look back as far as the number wich is now the actual one.. has come in before


nolinks://signumsystem.com/#/sessions-a-34/4536274833    check the lefthand session...

[gizmotron]

"you look back as far as the number wich is now the actual one.. has come in before"

Oh, I will look for that. Thanks.

So do you think that there are times when you don't use the look back as far as the last occurance takes place?

[Breeze88]

you mean to look further than that ?


well iam not 100 percent sure as iam still in the learning phase.. it could be that you may look a lil further back .. but iam not sure.. yet

sorry

[gizmotron]

Well, thanks for your effort. I'm not sure how to decide how far to look back. I did notice that there are times when you must decide between two different results because of the different possibilities to how far you look back. It's down a little further in the left hand session.

[Landis]

Guys,

Why not just read an encyclopedia or book on casino math to see if this would work?

This kind of system has already been reviewed and dismissed centuries ago. 

[gizmotron]

"Guys,

Why not just read an encyclopedia or book on casino math to see if this would work?

This kind of system has already been reviewed and dismissed centuries ago. "

Well then "moving average with standard deviation" must not sound strange to you then. [thanks Arte]

[Mr Chips]

Presumably Landis accepts a Standard Deviation score when it is produced?

[Landis]

Yes, I use  standard deviation testing to measure the effectiveness of my methods.  For example, I use it to measure how effective my visual predictions are.  I also use it to measure how likely a specific number is to be biased or negatively biased .  I also use goodness of fitness tests like chi square to measure wheel fitness.



-Landis

[gizmotron]

"there is no speciufic rule how far to look back .."

There was one example of looking back. Can someone show an example of a 20 spin sample where the distance looking back is shown & explained?

Anyone's opinion or set of facts is welcome.

Could a numerical value for this table's last item (...) be filled in for each row? To fill it out, just use quote in your post. It will show the table already formatted properly.

[table=,]
Row,G or R,+/-/0,P or M,Units +/-,(looked back# spins)
1,G,,,,(...)
2,R,-1,,,(...)
3,G,-2,P+1,,(...)
4,G,-1,OOO,,(...)
5,R,-2,P+1,,(...)
6,R,-1,P+2,-1,(...)
7,R,0,P+1,-2,(...)
8,R,+1,,,(...)
9,G,0,OOO,-3,(...)
10,R,-1,M-1,,(...)
11,G,-2,M-2,-2,(...)
12,G,-1,M-1,-3,(...)
13,G,0,M-2,-2,(...)
14,R,-1,M-1,-1,(...)
15,R,0,OOO,-2,(...)
16,G,-1,P+1,,(...)
17,G,0,P+2,-1,(...)
18,R,-1,P+3,0,(...)
19,R,0,P+4,+1,(...)
20,R,+1,P+3,0,(...)
21,G,0,P+4,+1,(...)
22,G,+1,P+5,0,(...)
23,R,O,P+6,+1,(...)
24,R,+1,P+7,+2,(...)
[/table]

[gizmotron]

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