Would U like to be a Roulette Pro? If YES..Do you think that you have the skill

[Jean-Claud]

Who wants to be a Pro Roulette player?
The answer is easy! But do you have the right skills to do it?

1) Patience
2) Discipline

If you think that you have them, then here is the only mathematical method that is a winner in the long term.
You should also think of this:
"Is this the kind of JOB that I would like to do? Or is this the kind of JOB that fits in my character?"

But 1st of all please let me educate some new and old members in here:  (it is important for all of you to read it)

1) No system can win by playing every single spin. (You simply can not find any merit in that)
2) Any system that includes a winning target is NOT a winning system. Because IF a system is a long term winner "the more you play it, the more money you will be making".
3) No system that includes a progression can be a long term winner.(because if you will face a bad sequence of betting you will not be able to recover)
4) Every spin is independent but overall and in the majority of the game(this is what we need, the majority in order to win more than we lose)after some occasions/results, some GROUPS of spins have a better advantage because of the probability/way of the randomness of the game.
5)If and when a system is a long term winner ,it MUST have a reason why it wins. Without any genuine reason ,you just play with the famous disadvantage of the game -2.7.
Roulette is a mathematical/probability game. So the advantage/reason should come also from the maths/probability of the game.

The method:

In every Casino we can find plenty of wheels.
Every wheel has a board with the last 12 results (at least)

The method is only on ECs
So we are searching for this sequence:  (The given example is with the Reds and Blacks. We do the same with the other 2 ECs)

IN THE LAST 12 NUMBERS WE MUST HAVE:  4(or less) Reds and 8(or more) Blacks. (Or opposite)

When we are having this sequence, then for the next 10 spins we are FLAT betting on the colour that has the less hits (in the eg.. above we would bet the RED)

We don t care if we are +1 or +2 or – 5 in any stage of the betting...WE ARE JUST BETTING 10 SPINS of the SAME.
No stop win ,NO stop loss....the stop is being defined by the end of the 10 betting spins.

There you go! You are all Roulette Pros now!

Do you have the discipline and patience needed to run around the tables to find these sequences?Do you have the desciplin to not gamble(by betting something else than ur system)?Then go and make some money.
Are you greedy? who cares? If you are its a good thing. because now you are playing with a long term winner.

Band Roll needed =40 chips.

Ps.Do you have the patience to suffer some times from the UPs and DOWNS in some visits?

Even with the this winning method 1 in 100 will aplly it CORECTLY and make money.
Because the other 99 want a system that makes 100 chips in 2 spins

I WILL NOT POST IN THIS TOPIC AGAIN.YOU HAVE IT ALL.

[weddings]

do we ignore zeros? and what if we are at a lost after the 10 spins? do we double up on the next 10 spins?

[medo]

Who wants to be a Pro Roulette player?
The answer is easy! But do you have the right skills to do it?

1) Patience
2) Discipline

If you think that you have them, then here is the only mathematical method that is a winner in the long term.
You should also think of this:
"Is this the kind of JOB that I would like to do? Or is this the kind of JOB that fits in my character?"

But 1st of all please let me educate some new and old members in here:  (it is important for all of you to read it)

1) No system can win by playing every single spin. (You simply can not find any merit in that)
2) Any system that includes a winning target is NOT a winning system. Because IF a system is a long term winner "the more you play it, the more money you will be making".
3) No system that includes a progression can be a long term winner.(because if you will face a bad sequence of betting you will not be able to recover)
4) Every spin is independent but overall and in the majority of the game(this is what we need, the majority in order to win more than we lose)after some occasions/results, some GROUPS of spins have a better advantage because of the probability/way of the randomness of the game.
5)If and when a system is a long term winner ,it MUST have a reason why it wins. Without any genuine reason ,you just play with the famous disadvantage of the game -2.7.
Roulette is a mathematical/probability game. So the advantage/reason should come also from the maths/probability of the game.

The method:

In every Casino we can find plenty of wheels.
Every wheel has a board with the last 12 results (at least)

The method is only on ECs
So we are searching for this sequence:  (The given example is with the Reds and Blacks. We do the same with the other 2 ECs)

IN THE LAST 12 NUMBERS WE MUST HAVE:  4(or less) Reds and 8(or more) Blacks. (Or opposite)

When we are having this sequence, then for the next 10 spins we are FLAT betting on the colour that has the less hits (in the eg.. above we would bet the RED)

We don t care if we are +1 or +2 or – 5 in any stage of the betting...WE ARE JUST BETTING 10 SPINS of the SAME.
No stop win ,NO stop loss....the stop is being defined by the end of the 10 betting spins.

There you go! You are all Roulette Pros now!

Do you have the discipline and patience needed to run around the tables to find these sequences?Do you have the desciplin to not gamble(by betting something else than ur system)?Then go and make some money.
Are you greedy? who cares? If you are its a good thing. because now you are playing with a long term winner.

Band Roll needed =40 chips.

Ps.Do you have the patience to suffer some times from the UPs and DOWNS in some visits?

Even with the this winning method 1 in 100 will aplly it CORECTLY and make money.
Because the other 99 want a system that makes 100 chips in 2 spins

I WILL NOT POST IN THIS TOPIC AGAIN.YOU HAVE IT ALL.

It has been tested and played long time and most who tried it have given up
as it is waste of time and money and you will become enemy of zero cause it will eat you down.

[Fripper]

do we ignore zeros? and what if we are at a lost after the 10 spins? do we double up on the next 10 spins?

I think that we take the zero as any other loss. If we are not in profit after 10 spins. Track 10 new again with flat bet, always flat bet. Don't use a progression..

He says that is a long term winner with flat bet, so no need to recover the losses.

That's what I think

/Fripper

[Noble Savage]

It won't work.

[weddings]

yes but we need confirmation from the TS

[albalaha]

This is not a system at all my dear friend. Every spin is independant of each other, this is a universal truth of live roulette which no one can deny. If within last 10 or 12 spins more red came and less blacks, in no way it ensures the opposite for next 10 or 12 spins. This hypothesis would not work, neither theoratically nor practically. Progression is a necessary evil of even money bets. Had it been so easy, everyone would become winner.
                     I suggest a modification in your holy grail with progression (mild), I love mild progressions:
Suppose as per your theory, we took Red to bet upon and we put $1 each time on red and we do not get desired result(profit of even $1), like this:
B-B-R-R-0-R-B-B-R-B-B           here we lost two units, instead of winning.....
Now we should wait for other qualifier of 12 spins ( when one number outdo other by a gap of atleast 4 units e.g. 8B and 4R, after that we can bet like this:
We take up our previous loss of 2 units+1 unit to gain this time, that means we shall play with we shall do flat betting 10 times with 3units each time so that even if we win one extra spin than we lose this time we move atleast 1 unit ahead of our initial bankroll+ we cover our previous losses and so on till we win.. Suppose we lose within 10 spins this time also...again wait for the qualifier and again add up all your losses+1unit as your basic unit and try your luck again for 10 spins.  If you are at your unluckiest best, then only you can lose three times in a row.

     I further suggest that if you start putting your bets and win two units in the begining or at any stage of your game plan, stop there and wait for next qualifier. Do not be greedy and do not turn your winnings into losses.


                                       I hope everybody will like it and give it a try. A potential holy grail. Can somebodytest it?

[Bayes]

This is not a system at all my dear friend. Every spin is independant of each other, this is a universal truth of live roulette which no one can deny.

Not that I'm defending Jean-Claud's system, but why do so many bring up the independent trials thing to show that someone else's system can't work and yet they commit the very same fallacy with regard to their own?

albalaha, your system is based on exactly the same principle (The Mirror system) - wait for some pattern X then bet Y.

Such lack of consistency makes me wonder if the concept of 'independence' is really understood at all.

[albalaha]

Dear Bayes,
                         You cannot ensure anything in live roulette. if you bet 35 number, chances of 36th and 37th number coming is same as not coming. Mathematically you cannot beat roulette because of house edge. What the max you can do is to make smart choices as to win more and lose less. That is what every system tries to do. Roulette is not about mathematics or probability,it is about taking chances and money management.
                                                   The system of jean claud had many lacuna which I tried to cover. Play this way, may be you like it. Please do not read one sentence in isolation, I have not thrashed his system but rather supported it by providing additional strengtheners. His original idea is very innovative but he remained silent on the question of progressions( loss recovery), which I answered.

[Bayes]

It won't work.

Just in case there was any doubt, and as this system is easy to code, I wrote a simulation. Using 10,000 actuals from Dublinbet, there were about 6,600 placed bets. Note that to make the coding easier I removed the zeros, so these results are actually better than you would expect.

From this, you might suppose that betting the opposite way would be better: ie that the trend will continue. But remember these results are from a fair game. Add in the zeros (there will be roughly 180) and your profit of 100 units will vanish.

[albalaha]

Dear Bayes,
                You have done a good job. I do not know coding of any system and then testing it. Can you code it as per my suggested improvements and then tell the result? I would highly appreciate it.

[Jean-Claud]

Noone can have this loss as the graph with this method.
How and where did u find the spins? did you used the trigger moment correct? Are u a lier or a decent person?

If in this system someone will add a progression it is lose.

progression = a stupid thing.

[Bayes]

Jean-Claud,

No progression, flat betting only.

I got the spins from here:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/actuals-permanences/10-000-spins-from-dublin-bet/

I'm happy to re-run the simulation using a different set of actuals if you would like. Maybe you can provide some? I can also provide a file showing the detailed bets so that you can check I have programmed the system correctly, but it's fairly simple with clear rules so I doubt that there are any errors.

What reason would I have for deliberately falsifying the results?

[Bayes]

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