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Unbeatable ! = 84-Step " DP Progressive" & 77+3 Capping Craps Systems !

Started by W7, October 02, 2010, 09:57:17 PM

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W7

     Hello All,  

   I have not posted in quite a while do to losing my ability to see close-up type.         I went to Tijuana, Mexico to Dr.             Mendez's  ( most-excellent )   6-story Eye Hospital ( behind the new Costco, just across the US/TJ Border )  and had the seeing- parts of my eyes replaced with plastic pieces  last Spring.             

   I was -775 diopters.         Now, I see 20/20 !

   I live in Ca.            I spent 4 Months   ( from June to Sept.       15th )  at the Bajanor Hostital, just across the US/ TJ Border   and I used my time to pencil-whip  craps gaming systems by back-testing them  against the 35,000 real recorded craps rolls from the book :  "  ZUMMA CRAPS SYSTEM TESTING BOOK " and  " 72 HOURS AT THE CRAPS TABLE.      "  ( 14,000 recorded rolls )      

    I   put my craps  testing aside, until recently,  but  when the local Indian Casino added a new Shuffle-Master 7-seat video craps game.      I have taken it up again.               

  Well,  I also have been taking the "  free "   Harraha's MD80 - 200 seat junket-jet to Laughlan, Nv.     every Month, all year long.         Its free jet, free rooms and free food.    What's not to like ?    

    I have modified  Larry Edell's     " PROGRESSIVE DP CRAPS SYSTEM "  (PDPCS )  from his huge book  " THE EVERYTHING CRAPS STRATEGY BOOK.   "  ( page #108 & #109  ISBN # 10: 1-59337-435-6 )  

 Now, his system  actually works !    

    Along with  the PDPCS, I have developed and back-tested for 1,000's of rolls, a  modified system I picked-up on John Patricks's  gaming  board.         It is from a man in KC, Kansas.             

      He is a   " Mr.        Gay " and he is  a 70+ yr.         old with 6 ex- wifes to support.   His  system is called  " THE 77 CRAPS SYSTEM.   "

      He says he  back-tested it  to death,  to the point he is moving to Las Vegas to play it full-time !

   Now, THAT  got my attention !      When anyone has enough faith, in a gaming system, to move  1,000's of miles  to play it full-time,   I pay attention.         

    So,   I too began back-testing the hell out of his system.    I  found its weak spots and I have tried to fix them.           

   Last Month,  I drove down to TJ, Mexico for root canal work  from  my most-excellent female dentist ( TRUST DENTAL.            COM )  and while in  the SD area,  I played both systems,  together,    at Harraha;s Ricon Casino and at the  " PAULA     CASINO.  "  ( as you no doubt know,  both are  near Escondito  and Temecula, Ca.    in Northern San Diego County )

   I took  + $1,700. 00  out of Ricon  and   + $1,200. 00  out of the  Paula Casino !    

       I played at each Casino less  than an hour.             

    It awed me how well each system flowed  from  practice  into a  real $$$$ betting   situation!

 In fact,  a old boxman said,  " I need to bet the number you are using for your 100% Pre-C/O  Hedge, because it  always  comes up within one or two rolls past your hedge.        "

  I am going to let my 4 white Standard Poodles out.    I will start with  the Larry Edell  " PDPCS System "  in part #2.           

END OF PART #1.               

Thoughts ?  

Jim #1.           

       

   

W7

Yo All. . . . .    :yahoo:

     According to. . . . "  BeatTheCasino. com "  ( Mr.  Ellis ) every math-based gambling system fails.   They fail to a number-set-up that appears in the RNG'd   Universe.

  Larry Edell's  " PROGRESSIVE DP Craps System "  fails to repeating PL wins  over 4 . . .  past the 3+Capping PL wins.

   Therefore,  I limit my losses ( at the $10. 00 game )  to 4 in-a-row.    In testing,  I then go into a recovery-game  at 3x to 5x units.

  The system has an " A " base-betting game and two recovery progression betting strings . . . .  ( B  and C games ).

  The " A " game  :   1, 22,333,4444,55555,666666,7777777.

 Please forgive me . . . I am falling asleep at this keyboard. . . . . will continue post after a short  rest. . . .
Jim

W7

Yo All. .

  Up and running again. . . . . . . .

       Mr.  Edell says to wait until two,  back-to-back,  PL wins occur before starting  his  progression.

      Jesssss . . . . . He  did not back-test that  idea  because in  my back-testing, on several thousand real-recorded rolls, the testing  shows that  waiting for two unwanted-outcomes, to occur,  before betting into his  progression,  is NOT  a strong enough play to push the random-number-expectational-outcome into the players favor, at a high enough  level, to have much effect on player-bias.

   I have found you MUST wait for a min.  of 3 unwanted- outcomes to pass, before betting into a progression and you MUST wait for the unwanted-outcomes to be " Capped " by a wanted outcome before  starting the progression. 

Thus . . . . . " 3+CAPPING "  was  born out of  my  back-testing results.

EXAMPLE :

    On page #1 of Zumma's Craps System Tester Book, the 12th shooter threw these  numbers  : 1010-99-66-66-55-99-7-55-47. . . . . . The  above  eight   back-to-back   PL  wins   were " Capped "  by  the 4. . . . 7.    If we had not waited for the 8 losing outcomes to pass,  we would have lost this play.

 By waiting for the  " Capping  4. . . . 7 "  to set-up  we  will bet  the progression until we have two winning back-to-back outcomes .

  The next outcomes go . . . . . 3  and  5,7.  . . . . Play over !  

  I will lay-out the rules of the Progressive DP System  in my next post. . . . . . . off to the gym.

W7



   

W7

Greetings,    :lol:


 Well, I am going to give you the web site to  the 8 pages  of posts on the.... " 77 CRAPS SYSTEM "  and the pages of posts on :....... " UNBEATABLE 84-STEP PROGRESSION W/3+ CAPPING ! "

   That will give you the total nuts and bolts of both systems and test results/comments.....

   Google .....

       nolinks://johnpatrickcasino.com

     When you hit the opening page scroll down to .... "QUICK LINKS "   and  look down the links to :  " MESSAGE BOARD. "

    When you get to the message board  toggle  down to :  " ANOTHER VEGAS TRIP REPORT "  by Harry Gay.....presto ! ..." The 77 Modified Craps System."

  Next, look on the first-message board page for ..... " UNBEATABLE 84-STEP PROGRESSION  W/3+CAPPING ! "  by  James Dodd.....zing ! .......you now have both killer Craps systems.

     Back-test them  for drop-dead-killer-results ?    :yahoo:

W7


W7

Yo Earthbounds,

   In recent real Casino back-testing, I have modified the rules to the above system in the following way:

#1]  I will now take only two losses in a row before suspending play to wait for a new  " 3+ Capping " to set-up again before resuming play.

    It shuts-down PL  "  clumps "  of winning outcomes from messing with the  DP  progression.

#2]   I now bet softly on my first bet.  The first bet has the best chance of losing according to  my back-testing.....a losing first bet is.... so..... easy to recover its losses on  the second bet.

#3]    I used the above system on two Ca. card-craps  Casinos in the San Diego area last  Month  for an hour of play at each Casino.

     My back-testing   results smoothly moved to real $$$$ play with-out a hitch....in fact.... it was sureal how well it worked !  :yahoo:

     I  cleared 4-figure $$$$ at each Casino ! ...sweet !   :dance1:

  I am returning to Mexico  next week  for more dental work and I will be playing the above Dice System again in the SD... Casino's .....stay tuned !   :good:

 Thoughts ?

Jim #1
aka : WWWWWWW  

W7

Hello Kindred Earthbounds,   :clapping:

  Well, I had to cancel my Tijuana trip due to  my white male Standard Poodle developing a very bad ear infection.  I have to give him meds 6 times daily.

     Prior to taking him to my local overbilling vet,  I  Googled were  to take him, in Tijuana,  for treatment.   I  came up with a vet four blocks South of the Border.

His name is Doctor Alexander.com and he has a  huge Vet Hospital complete with 2 new meat-wagons... for pets !   :pleasantry:

   I have his pet border-crossing papers and it was a stupid mistake NOT to take him for treatment in Mexico because my local vet charged me $340.00 just to clean his ear !   :diablo:

    I am writing a new article on my latest medical treatments in TJ,Mexico.  I had my eyes replaced at Dr. Mendez's great TJ,Mexico eye Institute last April  and I have had three root-canals done in the last several Months in Mexico.

  My last article resulted in it being picked up by newspapers as far away as S. Arabia, India, Alaska, CNN Mexico and all across the US.   Healthcare seems to be a " Big Button Issue "  all over the Earth.

    John Stossel read  my last 42 page post  and ABC's 20/20 flew me to its  NYNY studio's  for an interview for 20/20.  

  I was on the 20/20 show...  "Sick in America. " (how to leave the US for affordable ..out-of-your-pocket-healthcare...or.... " Medical Tourism in TJ, Mexico  " )

  There are 60+ million Americans with NO healthcare and they  are being $$$$- raped by the  overbilling US Hospitals.    :nono:

 Google :  jamesdoddKFSN30......and up pops the film 20/20 and their  local affliate....KFSN 30 shot of me making one of my  many overnight bus trips back to Mexico for healthcare at the  Bajanor Hospital in TJ, Mx. :pleasantry:

  I spent 4 Months ( June to Sept. 15th )  at Bajanor Hospital  (  just across the US.TJ Mexico border ).   I had two extra chest Surgeries and was taken to the beach, at night, in the hospital van, to sit in the sand and watch the Sunsets and the rental horses run in the surf during my four Months at the Hospital.

   On Sept. 14th when  I asked for my hospital bill,  l I was told.... "YOU WERE OUR GUEST...THERE IS NO BILL BECAUSE WE TRY TO HELP PEOPLE HERE. "   :pleasantry:

    How cool was that ?   :yahoo:     My local ER-RN said ... " Oh, it would have cost you hundreds and hundreds of thousands of $$$$ here  at our local hospital.    :rtfm:

  Anyway,  I am going to post the first 100 pages of  my  Zumma Craps System Testing Book's back-testing results using the 77 Craps System and the 3+Capping Craps System together.

   It is awesome how well they work together .....yep ! .....it is possible  to exploit the RNG 7's as they clump-up  in RNG clusters !    :good:

Thoughts ?

Best Regards,
W7
..... Zumma  results in my next post........     :yahoo:

W7

Yo, All.....

  Well,  I took my charting books to the Table Mt. Indian Casino, North-East  of Fresno, Ca.,  to use it on the Shuffle-Master  7 seat sit-down Craps  Machine.

   Jesssssss ! as I rounded the wall, out of the parking structure,  the machine was gone !   :diablo:


 Yep !  they pulled it because  they said  it was not getting enough play !   :angry2:

 So.... I will never play at that Casino again !  :nono:

 Damn..... It was perfect for the 77 Craps System and the 3+Capping Neural Craps System.....played together.   >:(

   My last numbers at that  machine were  :

-50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,-50.00,+100.00,+75.00,+75.00,-100.00,+150.00,+50.00,-50.00,+100.00 and ... +100.00.

   I have found that I do not now lay odds heavy until after  my  first  loss.  It makes the recovery game much easier to  recover from.

As per my  last post, here are the  recording  the results  I said I was going to post.   They are  in  5 game clips :

Game # :

1]    +550.00
5]    -125.00
10] +307.00
15]  +300.00
20]  +100.00
25]  +150.00
30]  +325.00
35]  +400.00
40]  +1,342.00
45]  +624.00
50]  +1,050.00
55]  +386.00
60]   +750.00
65]   +3,314.00
70]   + 200.00
75}   +158.00
80]    +1,272.00
85]    +1,266.00
90]   +924.00
95]   +660.00
100] +1,318.00

   I am moving up my betting  if I have " banked "  enough of  the Casino's $$$$ loot in  profits to cover any current betting  losses.  

   So far....so good !   :yahoo:

Thoughts ?   :good:

W7      

MiniBaccarat

G'day W7,

While I don't play Craps, your results reflect my own experience with Roulette & Baccarat,
my only temp loss was Due to having to leave due to a sudden bout of stomach cramps and
an URGENT need to get to the bathroom, I recovered my 'Temp Loss' (loan to Casino)
the next day (money, not deposit in bathroom)!

Thanks for the post!

Glenn.

W7

Good morning,

     I totally  lost  a Zumma's Craps System Testing Book  session ( page # 122 )  yesterday.

     I was using the Silverthorne ...NEURAL SYSTEM.   I RE-RAN IT FOUR DIFFERNET WAYS AND THEY ALL FAILED !    :scratch_ones_head:

   I then ran page # 122  over the 77 and 3+CAPPING System for a sweet + $650.00 net profit !  :shout:

  Anyway............

   Moving to Vegas is entering my mind.....play the two systems for under-the-radar stakes....make +$200 to +$500 a day and pack it in.

  That would produce  +$5,000.00  to +$15,000.00  Monthly  .....hummmmm ?    :dance1:

   I retired in 2004 after 33 yrs. in law enforcement and my pension is in trouble.   Most all Ca. retirement systems are under water  and in trouble.

    Across the street from me is Fresno County.   They will be 146% above their TOTAL incoming $$$'s just to fund their  retirements in 48 Months !  :blush2:

  LA County will be 98% over  ALL   :shout:.... incoming funds  to  FUND  their retirement employees pensions in 40+ Months.......Orange County ? .....  -96%  in 48 Months !

We  are in super-screwed trouble in Ca.    :skull:

  SO...I an  using  these two systems as a back-up to my retirement checks  and to protect my Brother's family if US Air and his wife's 1st grade teaching jobs...... go away.

W7
PS: Disclosure statement....  I  also have funds in the best emerging markets...Russia,China,Brazil and India  as well as electric power plants in Columbia and Bolivia, cell phones in the Middle East and freighter lines in Hong Kong.

Rascal

Hello James,
I just sent you a long email message to the email you gave in one of your posts over at Patrick's website but unfortunately it was only an auto-responder.

I read all of your description of how you play the 77 Craps method over on that other site but because there were a lot of other posts mingled in amongst yours plus the fact that you kept adding things as you back-tasted and found new ways of doing things, it was very confusing.

I would appreciate it if you would send me a complete set on instructions all in one email sent to this email address: patrickflorey@yahoo. com

I also have some medical issues I would like to discuss with you through email so please definately contact me at my above listed email address.

Best Regards,
Scooby Doo (Patrick Florey)

W7

Rascal....All.....  :ok:

 After reading back my posts, I can see your point Rascal.

      I have deleted the 84-step progression because it is to long and the  " 77 CRAPS SYSTEM " and  the " 3+ CAPPING CRAPS SYSTEM " are quicker in generating profits.   This happened  after back-testing for tens of thousands of real recorded rolls and real Casino playing in Nevada and California.

   The current systems work really well  in on-line Casino's.....but...... the Nevada Casino's wrote the laws banning US players from betting on-line.....boy O' boy....... treated like a 5 year old.

   Anyway :

  It is important to never bet more than you have won  when playing  these systems.  I am going to lay-out, line by line, the first page, of real recorded rolls,  in the Zumma Craps System Testing book.

  I have to go, at the moment,  but I'll post again  later this AM.....

Best....
Jim

opikos

Dear W7,

unfortunatelly i cannot access the john patrick message board where I can see the systems.  Would it present a great deal of trouble to write instructions here in this thread or if you want you can PM me with them.

I greatly appreciate your hard work and devotion

thank you in advance

W7

Earth-Bounds........

    I was thinking about how I fly to Laughlin,Nevada once a Month, for the last year, on Harraha's 130 seat MD-80 Jet....for free !   They fly all over the US to the Laughlan property.   

  I had to beg a seat for Jan.  because I have been winning in Laughlin and the one thing Casino's do not like is a constant winner.

That is why I love  playing the " 3+CAPPING SYSTEM " and the "  77CRAPS SYSTEM "  in the wee hours of the morning, on Shuffle-Master Rapid Craps machines......no heat at that time of the day.

   The Golden Nugget Casino in Laughlin, refuses to send me ANY offers......hummmmm ?   They have an empty Casino, most ot the time  and  I guess because I have taken $$$$, using the above systems, on my last 2 trips.....no offers ?

   The two systems work together to keep my interest in the craps game  profitable.   Then one system is NOT manifesting,  the other will carry my  game.

    The US Stock market is now run by computers doing day-trading for the big banks.  I did pick up $9,000.00 last Month when the QE2 was announced....but...now I am in cash.......therefore the only good game I see now is in gaming.

    Whatever, I am rambling so........

      The " 3+CAPPING CRAPS SYSTEM  " &   the " 77 CRAPS SYSTEM " with  John Patricks " RICHOCHET CRAPS SYSTEM "  tacked on to the end of these two plays is what I am currently playing.

    The 3+ CAPPING SYSTEM works on Bacc.  and Roulette but you can not use the Richochet System on them.....therefore, the RICOCHET adds another layer of " Player Winning Bias "  to use against the Casino's and  RNG's of the World !

...very nice ! ....jading the probable outcome back to the player.....jesssss ! the damn Casino's rip-off the players, on a daily basis, with the neg. expectation Casino games they offer.

   I printed out what I was going to post today, from JP's site, but I have misplaced it ?  I will find it and post it.....stay tuned.

Best,
Jim



   

Charlie201

Hi Jim , appreciate your thread .  I live in the San Diego also and make a hobby of gambling methods mostly in craps , roulette and baccarrat , with some  successbut not long term but it does'nt stop me from continually trying.  I was thinking that it might be a good idea if we met for a coffee and discussed what you have and some strategy , maybe there is a partnership there , or maybe we can just help each other toward some success , My email is grooviin@msn. com          Thanks Charlie

W7

Charlie 201, All.......  :thumbsup:

TRIP  REPORT :

Harraha's Laughlin MD80 comped Air Program....


  I boarded Harraha's 130 seat plane 100 miles South of my home at the new  Bakersfield, Ca. Airport.   The plane takes only 38 minutes to fly from Bakersfield to  Bullhead City, Arizona.   It saves  me 18 hours (RT) of driving time.  

   Only 28 players boarded in Bakersfield.  We then flew  over and up the Ca. Coast  and picked up 68 players at the Santa Maria, Ca. Airport.   That made the flight to Bullhead City, Arizona only 58 minutes long.

    We landed at 10PM.  The landing was awesome....we landed from the West and  the plane slowly passed the river-side  Casino's with their colored lights reflecting off the Colorado River...nice.

   We then boarded Harraha's  new 45 seat buses for the 5 minute ride across the Arizona border to the Laughlin Casino's facing the Airport.

    While waiting the two hours for my luggage to be dropped off in my room, I ordered up a refrigerator and coffee pot from the check-in desk.   Harraha's has a room with refrig.'s on each floor.  To get one, you have to just ask.   :shout:

    My game plan after seeing the craps table full of duffers, on arrival, was to wait until 3:00AM before heading down to the craps table because the  " 77 Craps System "  and the " 3+Capping Craps System "  work best when I can get a roll outcome within 4-5 seconds.

     The clock in my head went off at 3:00AM.... so.... I drifted off the 3rd floor to the craps table.  A good looking young girl  and here Grandfather were the only players at the craps table.  She was shooting from the PL and was extremely lucky.  She had 11 outcomes in-a-row fall to the PL side !

   I should have switched betting sides.  I did not get off  my  DP betting  side and I got killed !  I colored up what was left of my betting session kitty.  

    I set down and  played  $5.00  6/5  BJ on the BJ table next to the craps table so I could see how long it would take for her to  color-up.

   I played BJ for an hour before they colored up around 5:00AM.   I did not see them leave with very many chips.  I also colored up at BJ  and slipped over to the empty craps table.

    The table stayed empty and I charted like crazy ...playing the 77 System  or the  3 + Capping System when the first to manifest a betting signal appeared on the felt.    I colored up a + $600.00 profit at 9:00AM.

  After a coffee break, I went back to craps.  It had a kid playing craps that I  saw board the plane in Santa Maria, Ca.  We  got to  talking and his name was Alan C.  from the Santa Barbara area.  

    He seemed very bright ( a computer tech. ) but he did not really know how to bet craps so I did a quickie explaination of my betting strat. and he took to it  like a duck to water !   :good:

     I showed him how I bet a dooy-don't for table min.'s of $5.00 while waiting for one of the two systems to set up.

   We worked together... he would chart my thrown numbers and I charted his rolls. It made the game faster.

   When two 7's manifested in  back-to-back rolls or with no box numbers between  the 7's,  ( 7-3-7...7-2-12-7...7-2-3-12-7  )  we ditched the do'ie / don't  $5.00 betting system.

    We quickly scanned back on our charted  numbers to see which number of the  4,5,9, and 10  that had NOT come-up the longest ( the most out of favor of the four numbers  ....we exclude the 6 and 8 because they come up to often)  to LAY-BET a 100% hedge on our  pre C/0  bet we placed in the DP box at the same time we LAY-BETTED the 100% hedge bet.....

EXAMPLE :
                 Say the 4 has not come up in 23 rolls....we take a $100.00 lay bet ... " No 4 for a hundred "  and at the same time put $50.00 in the pre C/O point,  DP box.   When the " 9 " or whatever, is set as the  point ...we take down our 100% ...$100.00 protection bet against the  C/O  7.

   I told Alan, in my back testing for 10's of thousands of real, back-to-back, recorded rolls, I  do NOT take odds on the first point bet  because I have no banked winnings to cover a loss.   I  like to bank a Grant ( $50.00 bill ) on my first system-bet and I stay at the $50.00 max. bet-level until I have two wins in-a-row.

   When I have won two $50.00 bets, I move up to a + $100.00  or a  + $150.00 bet on the 3rd bet.....win it ....up to no more than $100.00 to + $150.00 in the DP box. (the odds bet at a 6x  table on the $150.00 bet is a massive $900.00 ! )
That is my max. odds  table bet...$900.00.

     Upon winning three completed outcomes ( three 7-out's ) , in a row, back-testing says to regress to the no-odds base min. bet of $50.00  with no odds betting.....bet at this level until a loss happens.   A loss by an 11 showing up on the C/O roll when a play is in progress or the damn hedge-point sets up as the point.....thus.... we have been " Richocheted. "

  When that happens, almost 100% of the time, when our DP bet travels to the just knocked-off hedge-point-number, we can recover the lost Richochet $$$$ by taking odds on the new  point.   It is awesome how the 7-out occures after a Richochet loss !   :dance1:

   If the 3+Capping System shows up in the recorded rolls before the 77 Craps System sets up, we played the 3+Capping System first.

   The 3+Capping System is a simple system that jades the laws of probability in the players favor.   You wait for a MIN. of 3 back-to-back PL wins to pass and when the string of PL wins  get " Capped off "  by a DP win, we  set-up the Richochet  pre-come-out play to take away the Casino's C/O edge when the  " 7 " appears on the pre-point roll.

EXAMPLE :   7...4,4...6,8,5,6...8,9,8....10,7 .....the 4 PL wins are " Capped " by the 10,7 ...we now go into the pre-C/O Richochet  System to get our DP point number est. without  ( most likely ) being killed by the   C/O 7.

    Our comped trip was for 4 days.  Alan and I played the two systems in the no-players-at-the craps-table hours of the day ( 3:00AM ) to as late as Noon.  When the PL players came to the table around Noon,  we colored up and took a cab to the Colorado Belle Casino.

    The Belle has two $2.00 BJ tables that pay  1-1/2 on all BJ's !    However, the table min.'s are changed to $3.00 around 10AM to 11AM.  A good low stress  BJ game always was to be had.  

   Alan uses a 4-step neg, progression and I use a 32-step Silverthorne Neural Progression on BJ.

   We daily colored-up 3-figure loot  over our buy-ins and we used the $35.00 (each)  lunch comps.  Ask the pit boss for a  comp...presto ! ...a 35.00 comp appears on your table !  

    The Laughlin Casino's ( excluding Harraha's )  have few players in the morning. A  retired aircraft engineer, who sat next to me on the plane said he walked the two miles from Harraha's to the bridge and visited most all the Laughlin Casino's.

    He said the most players he found on the table games floors were 6 players at one Casino.  Most Casino's had only  4 or 5 players in the table games areas.  The riverboat Capt. said Laughlin has gone way downhill...    :skull:  ...sad.

   It was a good trip...not quite a double-up of the gaming kitty trip... but close.

Thoughts ?

Best Regards,
Jim

     

 

 

   

   

   

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