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Started by eccl1019, April 22, 2011, 04:50:38 AM

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Mr J


iggiv

Mike, if we are talking roulette methods (not including VB or biased wheels),  it is a well known fact, that most
of players are ahead at some stage, but they mostly lose it. Most pro gamblers (again i don't mean VB or bias) agree that quitting playing in time is very important. Why? because if win, very likely that u gonna lose very soon.
that's how roulette work. Balancing itself. if your method is winning -- it is very likelly that u will start losing soon.
if it did not matter --long run or short, people could be playing hours and hours successfully. But playing for too long time is out of question, most will agree

Mike

Quote from: iggiv on May 04, 2011, 09:05:13 PM
Most pro gamblers (again I don't mean VB or bias) agree that quitting playing in time is very important. Why? because if win, very likely that u gonna lose very soon.
that's how roulette work. Balancing itself. if your method is winning -- it is very likelly that u will start losing soon.

I strongly disagree that roulette outcomes balance out and that this can be exploited. All the math and testing shows that this isn't the case at all. Yes, eventually the tide will turn - the question is you never know WHEN.

If you could rely on this you would just play "on paper" until a strong deviation and then jump in for the "correction". Countless systems are based around this idea, and none of them have been shown to work. It's one of the first things I looked at and simulated when I started investigating the possibility of winning with a system.

It's just the gambler's fallacy rearing its ugly head again.

bombus

Quote from: Mike on May 05, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
...It's just the gambler's fallacy rearing its ugly head again.

LOL!

Nice avatar Mike.

gizmotron

Quote from: Mike on May 05, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
I strongly disagree that roulette outcomes balance out and that this can be exploited. All the math and testing shows that this isn't the case at all. Yes, eventually the tide will turn - the question is you never know WHEN. 

So when does the math tell you that you are in a winning streak? Does it celebrate with dancing girls with pom poms and batons when you are in a losing streak?

I find it difficult to believe that you can't know when a win streak or a losing streak occurs.

Mike

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 05, 2011, 11:54:56 AM
I find it difficult to believe that you can't know when a win streak or a losing streak occurs.

Where did I say I don't know that? and anyway it's irrelevant because you only know it's a winning or losing streak when it's ended.


gizmotron

Quote from: Mike on May 05, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Where did I say I don't know that? and anyway it's irrelevant because you only know it's a winning or losing streak when it's ended.

I guess it doesn't matter "when" now. Because you are still saying you never know when or how long they last. But for some reason all the streaks you see are after they have ended. That's a streak too you know. It's an amazing thing. You only see a winning streak after it ends.

iggiv

Mike, u can be right...and still wrong in the same time :)

Mike

Iggiv, I'm not clear what you mean by hit 'n' run. Take the following scenarios:

player 1 plays every day for a week (5 days) and on each day plays his system for 10 spins (the hit 'n' run guy).

player 2 plays one day per week using the exact same system but he plays it for 100 spins.

They have played the exact same number of spins using the exact same system; now are you claiming that player 1 has an advantage not enjoyed by player 2, merely because he has broken his play into sessions of 10 spins?

Surely you can see that neither player has an advantage over the other? If you're saying that in general, playing more spins means bigger losses then I agree with you. That's the effect of the house edge, but 100 spins is 100 spins and it doesn't matter how they are broken up in TIME.

iggiv

Mike, maybe u r right accordingly to math, but in practical life it makes a huge difference for many people.
As much as  i know

chippy

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eccl1019

Congrats Scottyboy, I see you at the top.   It is looking very good for you!  Thanks for the compliments on the site.

chippy

Wow,this is great,won 1st and 3rd prize and $110 dollars tranfered straight into my paypal account.Much easier than gambling my own money,was almost too easy.Cheers ecc. :)

birdhands

I checked it out and it seems pretty limited.  I haven't been able to find a way to not bet until a specific trigger occurs; and if my trigger is a specific column then I'm out of luck, because I can only choose "any column".  Am I missing something?  Maybe I should try the video tutorial.

eccl1019

QuoteMaybe I should try the video tutorial.

Yes, please watch the video tutorial and let me know what you think. 

eccl1019

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