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Started by mark7102, August 20, 2012, 07:29:22 PM

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mark7102

I am going to step on a few toes here I imagine but I want to know if anyone else has had similar inconsistencies with revolution roulette games at Indian casinos?

I have been playing roulette for 25 years and have played computer roulette till my eyes bleed (on and off line)... I have established a style that i can win with that involves dozens betting as well as a number of inside bets from straight up to columns... I do ok... ON NORMAL WHEELS AND RNG's... However the rules seem to go out the window when playing the same game at an Indian casino... The live game wasn't so bad but was still harder to beat. The roulette revolution version is almost impossible with learned methods of the past...

From what I understand ALL machines ( in Indian casinos ) are tied to "Bingo" patterns and odds... I found one article online that is a patent application for a ELECTRONIC BINGO-BASED ROULETTE GAME
Sooooo I know it's been conceived, but, here's the 65,000 dollar question... How can you predict any kind of pattern when each game is run through a RNG and a BINGO patterns algorithm that I assume only lets someone win with irregularity if its NOT fixed from the start (which I'm suspicious of because there is no federal enforcement keeping them straight)... Yes Marge, Indians don't have to run a straight game BY LAW...

Has ANYONE got ANY feedback on this?

mark7102

Mr J

You said.....'BY LAW'. (which is incorrect)

Do you think just because its an Indian casino, there are no state/federal LAWS?

Ken

mark7102

That's not how i understand the "law" to read... From what I understood they are "self regulated" within their own network... Sounded a bit like you implied I am "racist" and nothing could be further from the truth, I do feel that the "Indian" casinos are exempt from the rules that other "non" Indian casinos in the various states are bound by.

Bottom line is the roulette revolution game does not act like (what I have experienced ) a regular machine act like and I was trying to get feedback on that not start a dissemination about  my racial beliefs or the nomenclature of the "law". If I am in fact wrong about the legal aspects please show me because I would like to know what authority does regulate them.

I tried to find my post on the "board" and could not, did you remove it? if so please tell me so that I can re write it. I would really like to get some feedback from others on this topic.

Thank You

Mark7102

Mr J

I removed nothing of yours and I did not imply you to be a 'racist'.

Also, I believe its called Roulette Evolution.

My point/question being this....... lets say a casino employee or player discovered a magnet at one of the roulette wheels. Are you saying NO punishment comes to the casino via the state?

Ken

mark7102

Yes... It is my understanding that the state has little or NO regulatory authority.
quote from ok.gov site:

"Who regulates Indian Gaming?

Indian tribes are the primary regulators of Class II gaming.  Regulation of Class III gaming may be addressed in Tribal-State compacts and varies by state with tribes remaining the primary regulator in most states."

I couldn't believe it either...

sure wish I could get some feedback from other members that have played... I swear the game is different. Here's my thoughts on it from watching and playing over the course of the last few months.
The machine has 4 stations all sharing a common wheel display, all players colored chips are displayed on the screen (denominations are not displayed).

I think the computer calculates all bets placed as well as individual players winning percentages and allows winning results based on those figures, essentially fixing the game.

I may be wrong but as I said the game does things normal RNG programs don't do like avoiding a section for 20 plus spins and avoiding repeating a section (in the same session) a similar amount of spins.

Thanks for the feedback and interest Ken, sorry if I sounded argumentative really not trying to be, I can imagine being a moderator can be a challenge sometimes.

Mark7102

Nathan Detroit

Ergo if in doubt  stay away from all RNG    roulette substitutes , airball machines  in any given form and just stick  to   roulette tables   with   croupiers and  standard wheels. :ok:



Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!







bigtim08

I have also played roulette for years in the casinos, there is no doubt in my mind that some  Indian casinos don't play fairly. I have played roulette revolution there alot in the past. I now stay out of most Indian casinos, it would  regularly miss my 12 numbers 12 to 18 times in a row when you should be hitting on average of 30% of the time.
Off topic a bit but I enjoy  50 and 100 hand video poker there is no way in hell i ever play 50 to 100 multi handed video poker at Indian casino any more.
there is a 23% chance of being dealt a winning hand on the deal but at the Indian casinos it averages about 12 hands before you ever get a winning hand on the deal.

bigtim08

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