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#### roulettedealer

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##### Roulette Prediction
« on: October 07, 2012, 06:57:37 PM »
Roulette prediction, wheel clocking, VB....all the same thing. Dealer signature can be added to this category of advantage play methods as well. All of these methods revolve around the same princilples, with a slight exception in the way of dealer signature strategies.
When attempting to predict the outcome of a spin, we are essentially trying to predict ball drop, and then adding scatter. In order to predict the ball drop, you must understand the various factors which determine it. Two of the most important and influential factors affecting ball drop are the wheel and ball speeds for each individual spin.
For those who do not understand the principles of roulette predition, try to use this example: A car is traveling down a road, at a certain speed, say 50MPH. The road in question is rugged and imperfect..as most roads are. Now, once the driver reaches 50 MPH, they will let off of the gas, and let the car coast until it stops on its own. So how can you figure out where the car will stop? Simple, you can watch the car as it runs this experiment one time through, and measure the rate at which it descelerates once the driver lets off the gas, then you can measure the amount of distance it covers before stopping. Next time that same car is traveling down the same imperfect road, and begins to slow after reaching a speed of 50MPH, then you will be able to predict the stopping point. This is because you now understand all of the factors affecting the experiment, and the resulting stopping point. Now, this will be different depending on the car, the road, and the speed at which the driver lets off the gas.
Now, Imagine that the imperfect road is the roulette wheel ball track, and the car is the ball. In this example, the amount of time it takes the car to come to a stop would be the number of ball revolutions before the ball loses momentum, and the final stopping point of the car would be the ball drop. The driver is the dealer, and the speed at which the car begins to decelerate is the speed at which the ball is initially spun. So how can we put all of these elements together and figure out ball drop? Well, there are many ways to do this. Traditionally, you would devise a way of measuring the speed in which the wheel is traveling, and the speed in which the ball is traveling, and then using any of a variety of methods, using these figures to determine where the ball will drop into the wheel. Next, you would determine how many pockets the ball would scatter based upon a scatter analysis done prior to playing.
The thing which people search for endlessly on forums such as this, is the paticular method which can be used to translate this data into accurate predictions. Like I said earlier, there are many of them, but they all are based on the same principles. They utilize the physics of the wheel to determine ball drop. Some are better than others, and some are better for specific wheels and conditions then others.
I am a professional roulette dealer, and advantage player. I have, over the years, devised an effective method for determining ball drop, which is extrememly accurate on any wheel, and dispenses with the traditional counting and calculating of traditional wheel clocking methods. I have been using this method successfully for about 5 years now, and teaching it both locally and over the internet. My method can be adapted to suit any wheel, and any set of conditions. Two of my most powerful methods are called wheel mapping, and spin pair analysis. These methods eliminate the need for calculations of any kind, and make the entire clocking procedure automated. Addidtionally, the amount of human error involved in manual prediction is drastically reduced using these methods, as there is no mental counting of any kind involved. Simple reference points on the wheel are all you need to be aware of.
If any one is interested in learning these methods, send me an email at xxxxx. When I teach my methods, I insist on continual communication until the methods have been fully understood and perfected by the player, this takes the typical student about a week...well worth it. Once you have begun to successfully apply the methods, you can always contact me with any questions you may have, but I insist on my students being dedicated and maintaining a line of communication with me until I am confident that they are applying the methods correctly. Dedication and practice are essential, so to those who truly want to learn how to beat the wheel, good luck. ----Brian

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 08:51:23 PM »
Nice post, I like your example about the car, good way to put it.

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#### Steve

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 09:17:49 PM »

As for mapping and spin pair analysis, I have a fair idea of what this is and I've been using this for over a decade. There are several steps beyond this and it gets to the point where it becomes much too complex to be done without software.
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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2012, 04:16:12 AM »
I know the wheel mapping method and it is very clever method - I also have the analyze software.
Personally I have not test it - but is far more clever then other signatures.
Not sure do, that you invent the playing model using wheel mapping.
As I notice your name at other boards and could find that some of your understanding of physics is not always correct.

My opinion.

Other assumptions - why would some one make a topic at forums and teach or sale does methods.
If he know so much about the game he could easy make money and being quit about what he knows.

#### roulettedealer

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 05:04:46 AM »
Hello. You say my ideas are flawed, yet I use them with great success. I beleive my understanding of the physics of the game to be outstanding. My understanding comes from the other side of the table as I am a roulette dealer, and I beleive this makes it slightly unique. I do not believe you understand my wheel mapping method unless you are a member of my site. It is one which I developed on my own, but I understand that it may not be an original idea as nothing in roulette really is, it is all simply waiting to be discovered.
What I post for free is only a small part of some methods, and never in its entirty, as I do sell my system online. I do this because I enjoy teaching others and it also brings me another stream of income. The majority of my instruction takes place at live demonstrations at one of my local casinos. I have only recently begun to take on online students. i do also play, but only once a week, and in a team comsisting of 4 other members. We do quite well for ourselves, and we are all local dealers.
If you have any questions regarging my methods, Ill be happy to answer them publicly. While many shy away from the challenge, I enjoy it. I have nothing to hide because my methods are genuine and effective. thanks for the topic reply. ---Brian

#### Steve

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 05:09:01 AM »
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If he know so much about the game he could easy make money and being quit about what he knows.

good question and here's my answer to it:

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1. Why do you sell your system? If it works, why not just use it yourself?

Because I don't need it anymore. I have something much better. I have discrete electronic devices that automatically predict where the ball will land, literally with my eyes closed (hybridroulettecomputer.com). I also have various other devices that predict where the ball will land (see public demo video recording for my other device). So selling the system is better than letting it sit unused. From roulette I make most of my money from profit split partners who use my electronic devices and pay me half of their winnings. Put another way: If you had a Ferrari and a Toyota in the garage, which would you drive? If you never drove the Toyota, does it mean it doesn't work? Would it be more profitable to sell the Toyota, or let it sit unused?

Cookies, what 'mapping' software do you have? Perhaps it has similarities to mine, but I confidently believe I would have the most thorough software.
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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 10:29:35 AM »

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Cookies, what 'mapping' software do you have? Perhaps it has similarities to mine, but I confidently believe I would have the most thorough software.

I got it from a famous legend who operate in LV ...
You can apply the simulations software to all kinds of different signatures - not just pre-predicted patterns and it pin point out different spreed around 56789 up to 10 numbers with STD among other data.

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#### Steve

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 09:44:26 PM »
does it automatically find "recursive maps"? ie put in the data, then it finds everything for you. And does it have RWA at the top of the interface?
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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2012, 07:09:21 AM »
does it automatically find "recursive maps"? ie put in the data, then it finds everything for you. And does it have RWA at the top of the interface?

Steve is not a competition - i am satisfied with does simulations software's i have.
I would sure get my hands on more simulation software's and methods based upon physics - as time pass by as it my life time hobby.

I spend a total of 6K to learn how to realize and get an edge to manifest using various methods.
Getting support from the best - if i find a hard nut to crack.

The issue i have with you Steve is that i could join and pay for material - but you so many times state that your members has to hit a degree of level on your list to get information from you and my understanding is also that you run the simulation for them with collected data.
For me that is a no, no way - if i did not misunderstand you way running business.

If i remember it correct you would not revile you 8 octanes or common recognize patterns with belonging simulation software.
I also believe same is with your simulation software for different kinds of wheel mapping - they stay with you and you run other peoples collected data.

You have to understand as AP i map my casino for long term conditions.
Taking everything into calculations - is like raping a wheel into small parts of elements to pin point out does weak spots you can take advantage of.
Then you need the tools, simulation software to handle collected data and build up a valid playing model - does things i would never let some other guy do for me.

I got a PM two weeks ago from one of your students - it was a pretty stupid PM.
He state with out knowing me or my work - that he know more then me about physics - because you have teach him.
I reply with out putting any value into hes statement.
"Good for you and good luck".

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#### roulettedealer

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2012, 03:35:50 AM »
Hello all. A question was raised about what I call "wheel mapping", and after reading some of the posts on hear about a nother method with the same name, I would like to clarify what I use specifically. First of all, I believe that the other method metioned has to do with collecting past spin data and plugging it in the a software program to try and pinpoint a type of wheel signature, maybe based on bias or whatever. This is the opposite of what I do completely. I look at it on a spin by spin basis, using specific patterns in the life of a spin itself to use as a reference in the future. These "blueprints" as I like to call them, are only good for about 24 hours or so, then the wheel must be "mapped" out again. This is an advnced method I developed a few years ago, and extremely effective. No computers. ---Brian

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2012, 08:34:19 AM »
Hello all. A question was raised about what I call "wheel mapping", and after reading some of the posts on hear about a nother method with the same name, I would like to clarify what I use specifically. First of all, I believe that the other method metioned has to do with collecting past spin data and plugging it in the a software program to try and pinpoint a type of wheel signature, maybe based on bias or whatever. This is the opposite of what I do completely. I look at it on a spin by spin basis, using specific patterns in the life of a spin itself to use as a reference in the future. These "blueprints" as I like to call them, are only good for about 24 hours or so, then the wheel must be "mapped" out again. This is an advnced method I developed a few years ago, and extremely effective. No computers. ---Brian

It does not sound that we speak about the same thing.
The method i am refereeing to taking the exact rotor speed and clocking the ball that in the end find auto-correlation using pre-predicted patterns - almost as VB but is more a wheel signature based upon valid visual ballistic parameters.

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##### Re: Roulette Prediction
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2012, 03:41:28 AM »
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The issue I have with you Steve is that I could join and pay for material - but you so many times state that your members has to hit a degree of level on your list to get information from you and my understanding is also that you run the simulation for them with collected data. For me that is a no, no way - if I did not misunderstand you way running business.

Yes only I know full details of my methods. It is the only way to protect them. But how do my players use them then? Now they use the automated analysis software where you just put the data in, and you get the betting charts that tell you when and where to bet. That way you get the full benefits of my methods, and they remain protected. Players dont need to know the details. If you follow my blog you'd know various developments and what is available to players.

I was curious about the software you use but you are as forthcoming as I am about the methods, as I would expect anyone to be.

None of my players should ever be identifying themselves as a player. It is against the terms of service. It is perhaps presumptuous for anyone to assume they know more about roulette than anyone else, whether it is you, one of my players, myself or anyone else. In my case I've been dealing with roulette almost every day (no exaggeration) for almost the last 20 years, and have developed technology like the hybrid (hybridroulettecomputer.com) and methods the typical AP would comparatively only have a vague idea about. I cannot begin to explain how much time, energy and resources I have devoted into developing technology to predict a wheel and ball. In all close to \$200k by now if you look just at the monetary aspect of development. And I confidently believe nobody knows roulette better than me. It may appear conceded, but I believe it is likely fact.

roulettedealer, all roulette methods are ballistic in nature but it is all essentially an "interaction" that can be modeled. This modeling is likely what you're referring to and to do it properly you need proper software. Doing it properly manually would literally take a lifetime. At the moment my software takes about 30 seconds to do a 300 spin analysis. There are literally billions of calculations that are done. if you develop your own software, I suggest focus on making the tasks automated
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