Holy Grail

[mr green]

How much would you pay for the holy grail?

What would it take for you to accept it is a holy grail system?

[bombus]

I would need to see it beat 1000 sets of 200 spins from a real wheel.

I would accept up to 100 lost sessions out of the 1000, provided the overall profit at the end of the test was greater than 14% profit on turnover.

If the system did that then I would pay about $1500 for a copy.

That's all I'd pay because I still have to go and do the work and place the bets with my hard earned money.

[mr green]

Thanks for the reply bombus




Who else would pay for a system with these rules?

[mr green]

oh and

And at what point do you pay?

The person selling would have to tell you the system first for you to check.

You could just tell them to get lost and not pay.

[martinnng]

I would see one more problem - How to prove that's realy "holygrail". Because I doubt that selling person is going to tell anyone the holygrail method without paying. Would anyone pay for something that doesn't know what is it?
And why someone sells any holygrail, when he has THE HOLYGRAIL? Does he need any money from potentially problematic business?

[mr green]

I have come to one possible fair way, but both seller and buyer must be together, not to be done over phone calls and the internet.

The buyer pays the seller first but he only keeps it on the conditions they test the system for x amount of spins and it wins, then the seller keeps the money, but if it loses the seller must give the money straight back.

Simple

Unless the seller is a bad ass and decides to kick the shit out of the buyer, then does one.

Must be trust between both parties

I also believe that there are situation where someone may find an amazing system almost good enough to be called a holy grail and have no money to their name.

[toffee]

No such thing as the Holy Grail in roulette and £600 for a ' Gauranteed Winning System ' bollocks I say 

[bombus]

Run away, run away!

[Davemd]

Lets put it like this

If Its a 100% guaranteed winner why does he need to sell it ?

surely he would be too busy walking out of the casino carrying the cash

dont get sucked in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[luckyfella]

If the system is sold its not HG - logical.

Yet that does not disclaim that the HG does exist out there winning consistently.

More important Q - why should it be shared with the masses? Doesn't make sense does it?

[muggins]

I have serious doubts that anyone in their right mind would share a HG, unfortunately for me a mate of mine seems to have found one and he won't even share it with me.    

He went full time playing roulette about a year ago.

[CryptoLogic]

Sorry it is not for sell.

" Had someone come to me and said "I'll give you $1,000 to find a solution to Roulette" I would have said "no". If the offer would have then been increased to $10,000 I still would have said "no". If they had then said $100,000 I might have thought about it for a brief moment but still declined their generous offer. Roulette is just too damned hard. Devoting several years of my life for only $100,000 would simply not had been worthy of my time.
But had they said to me: "Break Roulette and you will have wealth beyond measure", I would not have been able to resist taking on their challenge."

                                                                                   "dedicate to unknown friend." Thanks, Tom

[Nathan Detroit]

Attention Muggins !


Youare better off not knowing his method. It will tank eventually. Roulette is a game of luck  but not of skill.

[CryptoLogic]

Attention Muggins!
My withdrawals is pending

[CryptoLogic]

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