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Relaxed Roulette - Scam or not?

Started by schitz, May 22, 2009, 06:29:58 PM

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schitz

Hey everybody,

Just wondered if anyone has checked out:
hxxp: nolinks. relaxedroulette. com/index. html

Of course there's videos on Youtube, which really don't show anything.

I've searched out a few sites, but obviously the testimonials are bogus since 37 people posted at the exact same time.

So just wondering if any 'real' people have heard or really seen anything of this method.

:)

See_Jerek

It is a relatively easy system to play but it loses as well like all other systems under long periods of continous play.The best way to play is to deploy a hit and run style set an easily acheivable target like 5 to 10 units per day.It should work.I think the system is posted somewhere here,do a search.I recall I do have a copy if I am not mistaken.

WannaWin

I have a copy of Empire and SPAD.




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I can talk about them without publishing system screens or PDF file?

The last time flamingtorch was not very good.

I explain in my own words now?

WannaWin

schitz

Wow, cool, thanks for the post.

So in your opnion, is the Empire' SPAD' system simular to the regular relaxed system thats out there, or small variances?
And also, since you have it, was it worth the money? or just some basic strategy and common sense?

schitz

Oh yeah for sure, I think most of the time if your 'lucky and hit a win, best to wait, give some time and try later,
cause of course the same pattern may not show up, and may take awhile before that pattern hits again.

My motto is small wins, compounding on itself. :)

I'm just wondering if this system is simular to the relaxed system that is found here and other spots online.

shadowman

This isnt the same system, the one floating around is an old one that was put out by Izak Maytatya a few years back, not quite sure how this new one works but I think it is something to do with bettinig on red and betting column 2 or black and column 3, old idea.   Also the spiel that they give on the site reeks of fiction. . . . .

schitz

Ahh, yeah was thinking there may be some variance to it.

And yeah thats what I noticed, the site seems a suspicious,and as i posted before, checking out sites where the system is listed all seem like a marketing scam to get you to buy it, especially since not an ounce of the system is shown.

schitz

Wow, so the EMPIRE sounds more like a pyramid scheme, Which not to pay out any money is just plain wrong.

casinopitbull

hi mate  I  just  want  to tell  u  that I  was  check  that  copy ind I  can   clearly  state  that  your  invested money  can be  easy make  it  back  it is have  one  thing  to   do   with training  before  then  u  do  start  play   with  real money u  must  a lot  train  your   brain   there  is  definitly   average hits  some  wheel  sector  if  u  will  trained  daily 2 hours  u can  make  it with  right  condition 20 chips  every day . watch  sector wheel  plus  measure speed  well I  do  personaly  thing this  work with   very  experienced  person  who  know lot of  about  VB and  I  do  thing it is  not  easy learn :diablo: :diablo:

VLSroulette

Hello dear friends,

User germansniper has reported about this thread and there were some some copyrighted verbatim images from the PDF file which have been removed.

Let's remember while copyright does not protect systems itself, the exact *expression* of the systems as expressed by the original author is protected.

U.S. Copyright Office has clear insight on this:

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Lanky

Victor.

Thanks for fixing all that up and supplying that information for the Forum Mate.

Lanky.

VLSroulette

Fellows, user germansniper has requested the whole thread to be removed under copyright infringement. We strongly believe the whole thread is not a full copy from copyrighted material. I.e. schitz's exposed concern and the way he expressed it, is propierty of himself.

Thanks for your comprehension.

VLSroulette

Germansniper, the offending posts have been removed.

We won't remove the whole thread as it is our understanding the comments presented here are not property of relaxedroulette.com

While we do agree copyright owners have rights, at the same time they must respect the fact they can't stop the free debate on whether a system is valid or not.

I hope you agree this is a reasonable standing point for us to take.

Kind regards.
Victor

VLSroulette

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