the 450 spins from Mohegan Sun are my spins that I recorded. can't seem to find too many other double zero actuals here or anywhere else on Net. looking for samples of 40-50 continuous spins from real double zero wheels-- does anyone know where I can find? Also if anyone has 40+ continuous spins from real double zero wheels, would like to know the first 30 spins and give you eight numbers, one of which will usually hit within next six spins (worked on my spins, anyway.) the 30 numbers may or may not be quite enough, will let you know when I get them. thanx.
Simon, did you happen to notice 10-15 pages of double zero actuals in the previous thread from Victor and Lucky Strike???
yes I saw the page that includes my 450 spins from CT and the system I want to test worked on the other series of spins on that page that I could use for testing.
Will you clarify your objective??? It is not clear to me.
my objective... 1) trying to find double zero actuals so I can test the system some more on them and 2) asking if anyone wants to play a game, you give me the first 30 spins, and I give you six to eight numbers, one of which will hit within six spins, and you tell me if it did or not (anotherwords, testing the system.)
further clarification... because I have a lack of 40+ continuous spins from real double zero wheels (for which the system is designed), I have only been able to test the system against about 10 such series of numbers, and it only lost twice out of the 10 games. This ofcourse is not a large enough test to determine much. However I am anxious to try it at the casino, but my schedule is such that I won't be able to get to a casino for about 2 weeks. So in the mean time I just wanted to find more spins to test it against at home. And I thought it might be fun to see if someone has at least 40 continuous spins from a real double zero wheel, to see if I win against your spins (you tell me.) But if no one wants to play that's fine, just trying to find more double zero actuals to test. Or I will just wait till I get to the casino and see how it goes.
ps, it's a flat bet system, very simple, after you chart 30 spins, through a specific process you usually end up with 6 to 8 nos that you will bet for the next six spins, so you will net anywhere's from 30 units on down to negative 48 units, depending on when you hit, or not. Out of the ten games I played (which involved about 300 spins plus the attack) my results were +12, -48, +30, +30, +20, +4, +30, +6, -36, and +20. Ofcourse it will all probably fall apart at the casino but I am definitely going to give it a go as soon as I have a chance to get there.
Quote from: simon on June 28, 2008, 01:20:39 AM
ps, it's a flat bet system, very simple, after you chart 30 spins, through a specific process you usually end up with 6 to 8 nos that you will bet for the next six spins, so you will net anywhere's from 30 units on down to negative 48 units, depending on when you hit, or not. Out of the ten games I played (which involved about 300 spins plus the attack) my results were +12, -48, +30, +30, +20, +4, +30, +6, -36, and +20. Ofcourse it will all probably fall apart at the casino but I am definitely going to give it a go as soon as I have a chance to get there.
This seems like a good one Simon. Is it based on patterns?
no, it is based on splitting the wheel up into certain, small groups of numbers, and betting certain no shows, when only one in the group has hit and the other numbers in the group haven't.
I can give you lots of numbers from an actual 00 wheel thirty at a time.
Sam
You want them?
I have four sets, from The Great Blue Heron, Scugog Island, Ontario .
First 30:
5 17 14 0 1 29 23 19 32 18 00 28 14 20 18 15 11 34 35 20 19 3 17 20 17 21 11 8 18 19 . . . .
7 10 4 12 28 1 20 2 0 8 11 2 21 31 33 1 30 00 3 17 8 13 20 3 23 32 6 31 24 14 . . .
2 0 00 6 10 6 24 26 34 11 3 2 30 27 10 12 12 33 25 35 26 19 1 30 34 10 4 14 16 9 . . . .
17 24 34 15 22 30 34 5 29 0 30 13 21 23 1 8 15 15 11 21 3 19 10 9 1 33 2 10 17 . . .
Hoper, that island sounds like someplace I'd like to visit!!
Sam
Hi Sam, yes why don't you post about 4 sets and I will do them as I have time. Thank you hoper....
For your reference... if I bet 8 nos on spins 1 through 6, depending when I hit or not the result will be (read this as hit or miss on spin one, spin 2, etc)
-8 or +28, -16 or +20, -24 or + 12, -32 or +4, -40 or -4, and -48 or -12
If I bet 6 nos the results will be -6 or +30, -12 or +24, -18 or +18, -24 or +12, -30 or +6, or -36 or 0.
so you can score me accordingly.
on this set:
5 17 14 0 1 29 23 19 32 18 00 28 14 20 18 15 11 34 35 20 19 3 17 20 17 21 11 8 18 19 . . . .
the 8 nos I would bet for up to the next six spins (stop on a win) would be:
6, 27, 9, 31, 16, 24, 7, and 36 (let me know if any of these hit and on which spin.)
the other sets I can't bet yet... this one:
7 10 4 12 28 1 20 2 0 8 11 2 21 31 33 1 30 00 3 17 8 13 20 3 23 32 6 31 24 14 . . .
has too many nos left that I would bet so I need you to give me more numbers until one of the following nos hit: 5, 15, 22, 27, 9, 34, 18, 29, 16, or 19
this one:
2 0 00 6 10 6 24 26 34 11 3 2 30 27 10 12 12 33 25 35 26 19 1 30 34 10 4 14 16 9 . . . . I do not have quite enough numbers to bet and I need you to give me more numbers until one of the following numbers hit: 5, 15, 32, 13, 18, or 29
and this set:
17 24 34 15 22 30 34 5 29 0 30 13 21 23 1 8 15 15 11 21 3 19 10 9 1 33 2 10 17 . . . only has 29 numbers to I need one more number before I can evaluate it for a bet.
First set continuation:
5 17 14 0 1 29 23 19 32 18 00 28 14 20 18 15 11 34 35 20 19 3 17 20 17 21 11 8 18 19 . . . . 19 8 30 17 16 36
So it looks like you hit on the sixth spin --> 36
Second:
7 10 4 12 28 1 20 2 0 8 11 2 21 31 33 1 30 00 3 17 8 13 20 3 23 32 6 31 24 14 . . . 21 16 . . .
Third:
2 0 00 6 10 6 24 26 34 11 3 2 30 27 10 12 12 33 25 35 26 19 1 30 34 10 4 14 16 9 . . 34 21 36 34 14 13
Fourth: Sorry, I left out the '3':
17 24 34 15 22 30 34 5 29 0 30 13 21 23 3 1 8 15 15 11 21 3 19 10 9 1 33 2 10 17 . . .
Quote from: TwoCatSam on June 29, 2008, 09:19:07 AM
Hoper, that island sounds like someplace I'd like to visit!!
Sam
Hi Sam.
I'm partial to it. I was born and grew up there. My mother is still on the island, but I'm about an hour away.
There are more blue herons there now then when I lived there.
The casino doesn't have the free buffet voucher that's available from Casino Rama or Fallsview Casino, though.
It has 8 roulette tables.
Ron.
this set...
Second:
7 10 4 12 28 1 20 2 0 8 11 2 21 31 33 1 30 00 3 17 8 13 20 3 23 32 6 31 24 14 . . . 21 16 . . .
I bet 5-9-15-18-22-27-29-34 for up to six spins
this set....
Fourth: Sorry, I left out the '3':
17 24 34 15 22 30 34 5 29 0 30 13 21 23 3 1 8 15 15 11 21 3 19 10 9 1 33 2 10 17 . . .
I bet 6-7-12-14-25-27-28-36 for up to six spins
this set....
Third:
2 0 00 6 10 6 24 26 34 11 3 2 30 27 10 12 12 33 25 35 26 19 1 30 34 10 4 14 16 9 . . 34 21 36 34 14 13
I cannot bet unless/until one of these nos hit: 5 or 15 or 32 BEFORE any of these nos hit: 18-29-8-23
Session 1:
19
23
18
8
0
33
10
24
4
4
17
32
8
2
3
22
26
12
18
33
10
1
17
23
25
8
16
32
28
28
Session 2
7
18
35
1
32
25
29
32
4
0
36
12
8
36
28
29
30
23
10
4
8
28
12
12
1
16
31
6
18
33
Session 3
22
24
11
4
21
30
29
18
36
7
30
6
25
9
10
31
33
00
33
31
21
00
29
26
19
22
28
1
24
20
Session 4
17
12
15
15
00
1
28
0
32
15
34
3
16
3
25
16
34
24
26
1
26
24
22
30
1
1
8
21
35
15
These numbers quickly recorded using bj's Spin Recorder.
Sam
Quote from: simon on June 29, 2008, 06:55:52 PM
this set...
Second:
7 10 4 12 28 1 20 2 0 8 11 2 21 31 33 1 30 00 3 17 8 13 20 3 23 32 6 31 24 14 . . . 21 16 . . .
I bet 5-9-15-18-22-27-29-34 for up to six spins
Next six = 20 00 6 8 35 20 - so no wins
this set....
Fourth: Sorry, I left out the '3':
17 24 34 15 22 30 34 5 29 0 30 13 21 23 3 1 8 15 15 11 21 3 19 10 9 1 33 2 10 17 . . .
I bet 6-7-12-14-25-27-28-36 for up to six spins
Next six = 11 5 7 31 25 24 - so you would win on the 3rd (and 5th if still playing)[/font]
this set....
Third:
2 0 00 6 10 6 24 26 34 11 3 2 30 27 10 12 12 33 25 35 26 19 1 30 34 10 4 14 16 9 . . 34 21 36 34 14 13
I cannot bet unless/until one of these nos hit: 5 or 15 or 32 BEFORE any of these nos hit: 18-29-8-23
There was no 5 15 or 32 in this set. Rest of set = 23 19 7 16 21 27 00 17 6 33 8 27 11 27 2 8 20 21 10 29 19 00[/color]
Ron.[/font]
p.s. - Set 1 & 2 were from the same table, sets 3 and 4 were different tables.
>>These numbers quickly recorded using bj's Spin Recorder
.... what is that?
Simon
It is software available in the downloads section, but I think it has a bug. I hit 6 on it and it went berserk. I had to kill it to stop it. I've told bj.
Sam
Sam, are the spins you posted from real double zero wheels, or not?
my bets would be as follows...
Session One-- bet six numbers-- 5-15-6-27-13-29
Session Two-- too many numbers to bet, need one of the following to hit before betting-- 2-20-3-26-9-34-14-17-19- or 24
Session Three-- can't bet yet, need one number from this set-- 5-15-32 and one number from this set-- 8-23-35 before betting
Session Four-- bet six numbers-- 2-20-4-33-9-31
bets are for six more spins, assume stop on a win but let me know all six spins that came next. thanx!
Quote
my bets would be as follows...
Session One-- bet six numbers-- 5-15-6-27-13-29.............28 10 32 30 23 6
Session Two-- too many numbers to bet, need one of the following to hit before betting-.- 2-20-3-26-9-34-14-17-19- or 24...The next number to come is 9
Session Three-- can't bet yet, need one number from this set-- 5-15-32 and one number from this set-- 8-23-35 before betting...next numbers until both of those happen...6 36 34 21 16 29 32 25 27 11 00 2 10 35
Session Four-- bet six numbers-- 2-20-4-33-9-31...........12 34 2 4 15 21
bets are for six more spins, assume stop on a win but let me know all six spins that came next. thanx!
Yes, these are from a real 00 wheel. I won't jack with you. The numbers will be fair and provable.
Sam
I am confused why you are saying the results are from software, but the results are from real wheels. I will finish the other two games tomorrow, what I would bet. But this isn't going as well I hoped. Oh WELL. Thanx anyway for giving me the numbers and results.
NO NO NO
The software is from bj...it merely records what you click in...like a calculator would print 17 on a paper slip.
The numbers are from a real, 00, human-spun wheel.
Look under the software section and download bj's Spin Tracker.
Sorry if I confused you. If you want to quit, OK by me.
Sam
>>Session Two-- too many numbers to bet, need one of the following to hit before betting-.- 2-20-3-26-9-34-14-17-19- or 24..."The next number to come is 9"
........ still too many numbers to bet, I need one of these to hit b4 betting: 2-20-3-26-5-15-22-27-14-17-19-24
>>Session Three-- can't bet yet, need one number from this set-- 5-15-32 and one number from this set-- 8-23-35 before betting... "next numbers until both of those happen...6 36 34 21 16 29 32 25 27 11 00 2 10 35"
....... ok I bet the six numbers 5-15-8-23-14-16 for up to the next six spins, let me know what the next six numbers were. Sam I was wondering after we finish with the results of these two games, is it possible you could email me about ten sessions? They would need to be minimum 40 continuous spins, preferably 50 spins long. If so you can email them to me at eztenfour-gamer at yahoo.com (replace "at" with @ and ofcourse no spaces around it.) (I try to avoid the spambots.) Thanks!!
If I understand you, the next six numbers for session 3 are what you want? Here they be:
23 23 17 0 20 8
Ten sessions of how many number each session?
>>If I understand you, the next six numbers for session 3 are what you want? Here they be: 23 23 17 0 20 8
...... good, so that is a hit on the first spin (+30). and had I kept betting all six numbers for six spins, I would have also won on the second, third, and sixth spin (you won't believe this but I screwed up and was supposed to bet 17 not 16.)
>>Ten sessions of how many number each session?
............ I need a minimum of 40 continuous spins but if you have 50 or more spins in a row, that is better. Just however long the sessions are, if they were recorded from real, landbased double zero wheels, I would like the whole session as long as it is at least 40 continuous spins or longer. It doesn't matter if I know all the numbers ahead of time because there is nothing arbitrary about the system I am testing and the bets called for, as it calls for very specific bets after very specific events, so I know exactly what I would have bet next and can see if the bet would have won or not, there is no second-guessing anything. thanx!!
ps, to see what my bet would have been on "session 2", post me the rest of the numbers until one of these numbers hit: 2-20-3-26-5-15-22-27-14-17-19-24. thanx.
13 then 24
ok well session 2, I still have too many numbers to bet and I don't want to keep bothering you for more numbers. I can only tell you that I am looking at ten possible numbers to bet, and they need to be reduced to eight. Here are five pairs: 2-20, 3-26, 5-15, 22-27, and 14-25. If and when ANY of these numbers hit, throw out the pair that the number is in, and the bet is on ALL of the other eight numbers for up to the next six spins. let me know how that does and let me know if you email me with the double zero sessions. thank you!!
Hi
Why is this system exclusively for the 00 wheel? Listen, I am an American with no single 0 wheels close so I'm up for working to find us a system.
I'll try to scrounge up ten sessions of 50 numbers each.
Sam
>>Why is this system exclusively for the 00 wheel?
1) because I only have access to double zero wheels
2) because the creator of the system said it's designed exclusively for American double zero wheels.
I am not looking for two numbers and I am not looking for anything back to back. I just want to eliminate ONE pair, and bet ALL the other pairs. So if ANY number in ANY of these pairs hits: (2-20) or (3-26) or (5-15) or (22-27) or (14-17), throw out that pair and the bet is on ALL the other numbers. Example, if the first number out of all these numbers to hit next is 3, then the bet will be on 2-20-5-15-22-27-14-17.
Sam... my previous post was in answer to your previous question which is no longer in this thread for some reason. For the four sessions you posted my results were: Session One-- broke even (bet six numbers and won on 6th spin); Session Two-- still awaiting results; Session Three-- +30 (bet six numbers and won on first spin); and Session Four-- +18 (bet six numbers and won on third spin.)
Session Two is the thirty numbers that started 7-18-35... and ended... 18-33 and then you said next number was 9, so my bet is as follows: when any number in any of these pairs hit-- (2-20) or (3-26) or (5-15) or (22-27) or (14-17), throw out both numbers in that pair and the bet is on the other eight numbers. Example, if the first number out of all these numbers to hit next is 3, then the bet will be on 2-20-5-15-22-27-14-17.
I will be kinda busy for the next week so appreciate it if you can tell me today next six spins after one of the numbers from the pairs hit, and really appreciate it if you can email me more double zero sessions to eztenfour-gamer at yahoo.com, though I may not be able to email you back to thank you right away. Thanx!!
session two......26 hit,,,,,,,,five spins later 15 hit
Simon
I took down the message where I asked you the question. I felt the question was based on a mistaken premise and I was right.
I'm sorry, we had a bit of a communication failure here. When you listed those numbers, (2-20) and so on, I thought that was the sytem, I did not know you wanted me to continue on from 9 forward.
I have to soon leave home for the cleaning lady, go shopping and spend the 4th weekend with family, so don't hold me to a deadline on those numbers. That's 500 numbers and a lot of typing.
Sam
>>session two......26 hit,,,,,,,,five spins later 15 hit
..... thanks Sam, OK so that would be -4 units for that sesssion. Total profit for those 4 sessions = +44 units. Total profit for 6 sessions I personally recorded = +48 units. Total profit from 4 games from sessions posted in Kimo's thread = +20 units. Total loss from three sessions hoper35 posted = -48 units (one of the 4 games I could not make a bet.) (Thank you hoper35) Total profit for 17 games which involved 600+ spins = +64 units.
Question-- how do I know if this was just a lucky fluke, or a winning system?
Answer-- when I take it to the casino and play for real money and lose, I suppose.
Real question-- how many games would I have to test to know? (games involving 30-40 spins b4 betting.)
>>don't hold me to a deadline on those numbers. That's 500 numbers and a lot of typing.
Sam, I didn't know you had to manually type up the spins, I thought you had them in a way you could just copy and paste them to me. I don't expect you to type all that up so don't bother. I will test this in my usual way-- go to the casino and bet till I lose enough times to get discouraged with the system (this will be about the 100th system I've tried) and say "screw it," back to the drawing board (or "screw it", forget the whole thing and back to the real word, because there just aint no easy way to make money other than the usual hard way-- working..... although there always seems to be just ONE more idea....) OK thanks for your help with my system testing. Later....
You're welcome, Simon. :) Good luck with it!
There should be a sticky for where to get spins.
For 00 wheels, Jim Ferr has a site: nolinks://hometown.aol.com/roulettespins/RouletteSpins.html (nolinks://hometown.aol.com/roulettespins/RouletteSpins.html)
I have donated quite a bunch and I trust all but 2 as being genuine. Yet those two fall within parameters so I may just be paranoid.