Hello All,
I have not posted in quite a while do to losing my ability to see close-up type. I went to Tijuana, Mexico to Dr. Mendez's ( most-excellent ) 6-story Eye Hospital ( behind the new Costco, just across the US/TJ Border ) and had the seeing- parts of my eyes replaced with plastic pieces last Spring.
I was -775 diopters. Now, I see 20/20 !
I live in Ca. I spent 4 Months ( from June to Sept. 15th ) at the Bajanor Hostital, just across the US/ TJ Border and I used my time to pencil-whip craps gaming systems by back-testing them against the 35,000 real recorded craps rolls from the book : " ZUMMA CRAPS SYSTEM TESTING BOOK " and " 72 HOURS AT THE CRAPS TABLE. " ( 14,000 recorded rolls )
I put my craps testing aside, until recently, but when the local Indian Casino added a new Shuffle-Master 7-seat video craps game. I have taken it up again.
Well, I also have been taking the " free " Harraha's MD80 - 200 seat junket-jet to Laughlan, Nv. every Month, all year long. Its free jet, free rooms and free food. What's not to like ?
I have modified Larry Edell's " PROGRESSIVE DP CRAPS SYSTEM " (PDPCS ) from his huge book " THE EVERYTHING CRAPS STRATEGY BOOK. " ( page #108 & #109 ISBN # 10: 1-59337-435-6 )
Now, his system actually works !
Along with the PDPCS, I have developed and back-tested for 1,000's of rolls, a modified system I picked-up on John Patricks's gaming board. It is from a man in KC, Kansas.
He is a " Mr. Gay " and he is a 70+ yr. old with 6 ex- wifes to support. His system is called " THE 77 CRAPS SYSTEM. "
He says he back-tested it to death, to the point he is moving to Las Vegas to play it full-time !
Now, THAT got my attention ! When anyone has enough faith, in a gaming system, to move 1,000's of miles to play it full-time, I pay attention.
So, I too began back-testing the hell out of his system. I found its weak spots and I have tried to fix them.
Last Month, I drove down to TJ, Mexico for root canal work from my most-excellent female dentist ( TRUST DENTAL. COM ) and while in the SD area, I played both systems, together, at Harraha;s Ricon Casino and at the " PAULA CASINO. " ( as you no doubt know, both are near Escondito and Temecula, Ca. in Northern San Diego County )
I took + $1,700. 00 out of Ricon and + $1,200. 00 out of the Paula Casino !
I played at each Casino less than an hour.
It awed me how well each system flowed from practice into a real $$$$ betting situation!
In fact, a old boxman said, " I need to bet the number you are using for your 100% Pre-C/O Hedge, because it always comes up within one or two rolls past your hedge. "
I am going to let my 4 white Standard Poodles out. I will start with the Larry Edell " PDPCS System " in part #2.
END OF PART #1.
Thoughts ?
Jim #1.
Yo All. . . . . :yahoo:
According to. . . . " BeatTheCasino. com " ( Mr. Ellis ) every math-based gambling system fails. They fail to a number-set-up that appears in the RNG'd Universe.
Larry Edell's " PROGRESSIVE DP Craps System " fails to repeating PL wins over 4 . . . past the 3+Capping PL wins.
Therefore, I limit my losses ( at the $10. 00 game ) to 4 in-a-row. In testing, I then go into a recovery-game at 3x to 5x units.
The system has an " A " base-betting game and two recovery progression betting strings . . . . ( B and C games ).
The " A " game : 1, 22,333,4444,55555,666666,7777777.
Please forgive me . . . I am falling asleep at this keyboard. . . . . will continue post after a short rest. . . .
Jim
Yo All. .
Up and running again. . . . . . . .
Mr. Edell says to wait until two, back-to-back, PL wins occur before starting his progression.
Jesssss . . . . . He did not back-test that idea because in my back-testing, on several thousand real-recorded rolls, the testing shows that waiting for two unwanted-outcomes, to occur, before betting into his progression, is NOT a strong enough play to push the random-number-expectational-outcome into the players favor, at a high enough level, to have much effect on player-bias.
I have found you MUST wait for a min. of 3 unwanted- outcomes to pass, before betting into a progression and you MUST wait for the unwanted-outcomes to be " Capped " by a wanted outcome before starting the progression.
Thus . . . . . " 3+CAPPING " was born out of my back-testing results.
EXAMPLE :
On page #1 of Zumma's Craps System Tester Book, the 12th shooter threw these numbers : 1010-99-66-66-55-99-7-55-47. . . . . . The above eight back-to-back PL wins were " Capped " by the 4. . . . 7. If we had not waited for the 8 losing outcomes to pass, we would have lost this play.
By waiting for the " Capping 4. . . . 7 " to set-up we will bet the progression until we have two winning back-to-back outcomes .
The next outcomes go . . . . . 3 and 5,7. . . . . Play over !
I will lay-out the rules of the Progressive DP System in my next post. . . . . . . off to the gym.
W7
Greetings, :lol:
Well, I am going to give you the web site to the 8 pages of posts on the.... " 77 CRAPS SYSTEM " and the pages of posts on :....... " UNBEATABLE 84-STEP PROGRESSION W/3+ CAPPING ! "
That will give you the total nuts and bolts of both systems and test results/comments.....
Google .....
nolinks://johnpatrickcasino.com (nolinks://johnpatrickcasino.com)
When you hit the opening page scroll down to .... "QUICK LINKS " and look down the links to : " MESSAGE BOARD. "
When you get to the message board toggle down to : " ANOTHER VEGAS TRIP REPORT " by Harry Gay.....presto ! ..." The 77 Modified Craps System."
Next, look on the first-message board page for ..... " UNBEATABLE 84-STEP PROGRESSION W/3+CAPPING ! " by James Dodd.....zing ! .......you now have both killer Craps systems.
Back-test them for drop-dead-killer-results ? :yahoo:
W7
Yo Earthbounds,
In recent real Casino back-testing, I have modified the rules to the above system in the following way:
#1] I will now take only two losses in a row before suspending play to wait for a new " 3+ Capping " to set-up again before resuming play.
It shuts-down PL " clumps " of winning outcomes from messing with the DP progression.
#2] I now bet softly on my first bet. The first bet has the best chance of losing according to my back-testing.....a losing first bet is.... so..... easy to recover its losses on the second bet.
#3] I used the above system on two Ca. card-craps Casinos in the San Diego area last Month for an hour of play at each Casino.
My back-testing results smoothly moved to real $$$$ play with-out a hitch....in fact.... it was sureal how well it worked ! :yahoo:
I cleared 4-figure $$$$ at each Casino ! ...sweet ! :dance1:
I am returning to Mexico next week for more dental work and I will be playing the above Dice System again in the SD... Casino's .....stay tuned ! :good:
Thoughts ?
Jim #1
aka : WWWWWWW
Hello Kindred Earthbounds, :clapping:
Well, I had to cancel my Tijuana trip due to my white male Standard Poodle developing a very bad ear infection. I have to give him meds 6 times daily.
Prior to taking him to my local overbilling vet, I Googled were to take him, in Tijuana, for treatment. I came up with a vet four blocks South of the Border.
His name is Doctor Alexander.com and he has a huge Vet Hospital complete with 2 new meat-wagons... for pets ! :pleasantry:
I have his pet border-crossing papers and it was a stupid mistake NOT to take him for treatment in Mexico because my local vet charged me $340.00 just to clean his ear ! :diablo:
I am writing a new article on my latest medical treatments in TJ,Mexico. I had my eyes replaced at Dr. Mendez's great TJ,Mexico eye Institute last April and I have had three root-canals done in the last several Months in Mexico.
My last article resulted in it being picked up by newspapers as far away as S. Arabia, India, Alaska, CNN Mexico and all across the US. Healthcare seems to be a " Big Button Issue " all over the Earth.
John Stossel read my last 42 page post and ABC's 20/20 flew me to its NYNY studio's for an interview for 20/20.
I was on the 20/20 show... "Sick in America. " (how to leave the US for affordable ..out-of-your-pocket-healthcare...or.... " Medical Tourism in TJ, Mexico " )
There are 60+ million Americans with NO healthcare and they are being $$$$- raped by the overbilling US Hospitals. :nono:
Google : jamesdoddKFSN30......and up pops the film 20/20 and their local affliate....KFSN 30 shot of me making one of my many overnight bus trips back to Mexico for healthcare at the Bajanor Hospital in TJ, Mx. :pleasantry:
I spent 4 Months ( June to Sept. 15th ) at Bajanor Hospital ( just across the US.TJ Mexico border ). I had two extra chest Surgeries and was taken to the beach, at night, in the hospital van, to sit in the sand and watch the Sunsets and the rental horses run in the surf during my four Months at the Hospital.
On Sept. 14th when I asked for my hospital bill, l I was told.... "YOU WERE OUR GUEST...THERE IS NO BILL BECAUSE WE TRY TO HELP PEOPLE HERE. " :pleasantry:
How cool was that ? :yahoo: My local ER-RN said ... " Oh, it would have cost you hundreds and hundreds of thousands of $$$$ here at our local hospital. :rtfm:
Anyway, I am going to post the first 100 pages of my Zumma Craps System Testing Book's back-testing results using the 77 Craps System and the 3+Capping Craps System together.
It is awesome how well they work together .....yep ! .....it is possible to exploit the RNG 7's as they clump-up in RNG clusters ! :good:
Thoughts ?
Best Regards,
W7
..... Zumma results in my next post........ :yahoo:
Yo, All.....
Well, I took my charting books to the Table Mt. Indian Casino, North-East of Fresno, Ca., to use it on the Shuffle-Master 7 seat sit-down Craps Machine.
Jesssssss ! as I rounded the wall, out of the parking structure, the machine was gone ! :diablo:
Yep ! they pulled it because they said it was not getting enough play ! :angry2:
So.... I will never play at that Casino again ! :nono:
Damn..... It was perfect for the 77 Craps System and the 3+Capping Neural Craps System.....played together. >:(
My last numbers at that machine were :
-50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,+50.00,-50.00,+100.00,+75.00,+75.00,-100.00,+150.00,+50.00,-50.00,+100.00 and ... +100.00.
I have found that I do not now lay odds heavy until after my first loss. It makes the recovery game much easier to recover from.
As per my last post, here are the recording the results I said I was going to post. They are in 5 game clips :
Game # :
1] +550.00
5] -125.00
10] +307.00
15] +300.00
20] +100.00
25] +150.00
30] +325.00
35] +400.00
40] +1,342.00
45] +624.00
50] +1,050.00
55] +386.00
60] +750.00
65] +3,314.00
70] + 200.00
75} +158.00
80] +1,272.00
85] +1,266.00
90] +924.00
95] +660.00
100] +1,318.00
I am moving up my betting if I have " banked " enough of the Casino's $$$$ loot in profits to cover any current betting losses.
So far....so good ! :yahoo:
Thoughts ? :good:
W7
G'day W7,
While I don't play Craps, your results reflect my own experience with Roulette & Baccarat,
my only temp loss was Due to having to leave due to a sudden bout of stomach cramps and
an URGENT need to get to the bathroom, I recovered my 'Temp Loss' (loan to Casino)
the next day (money, not deposit in bathroom)!
Thanks for the post!
Glenn.
Good morning,
I totally lost a Zumma's Craps System Testing Book session ( page # 122 ) yesterday.
I was using the Silverthorne ...NEURAL SYSTEM. I RE-RAN IT FOUR DIFFERNET WAYS AND THEY ALL FAILED ! :scratch_ones_head:
I then ran page # 122 over the 77 and 3+CAPPING System for a sweet + $650.00 net profit ! :shout:
Anyway............
Moving to Vegas is entering my mind.....play the two systems for under-the-radar stakes....make +$200 to +$500 a day and pack it in.
That would produce +$5,000.00 to +$15,000.00 Monthly .....hummmmm ? :dance1:
I retired in 2004 after 33 yrs. in law enforcement and my pension is in trouble. Most all Ca. retirement systems are under water and in trouble.
Across the street from me is Fresno County. They will be 146% above their TOTAL incoming $$$'s just to fund their retirements in 48 Months ! :blush2:
LA County will be 98% over ALL :shout:.... incoming funds to FUND their retirement employees pensions in 40+ Months.......Orange County ? ..... -96% in 48 Months !
We are in super-screwed trouble in Ca. :skull:
SO...I an using these two systems as a back-up to my retirement checks and to protect my Brother's family if US Air and his wife's 1st grade teaching jobs...... go away.
W7
PS: Disclosure statement.... I also have funds in the best emerging markets...Russia,China,Brazil and India as well as electric power plants in Columbia and Bolivia, cell phones in the Middle East and freighter lines in Hong Kong.
Hello James,
I just sent you a long email message to the email you gave in one of your posts over at Patrick's website but unfortunately it was only an auto-responder.
I read all of your description of how you play the 77 Craps method over on that other site but because there were a lot of other posts mingled in amongst yours plus the fact that you kept adding things as you back-tasted and found new ways of doing things, it was very confusing.
I would appreciate it if you would send me a complete set on instructions all in one email sent to this email address: patrickflorey@yahoo. com
I also have some medical issues I would like to discuss with you through email so please definately contact me at my above listed email address.
Best Regards,
Scooby Doo (Patrick Florey)
Rascal....All..... :ok:
After reading back my posts, I can see your point Rascal.
I have deleted the 84-step progression because it is to long and the " 77 CRAPS SYSTEM " and the " 3+ CAPPING CRAPS SYSTEM " are quicker in generating profits. This happened after back-testing for tens of thousands of real recorded rolls and real Casino playing in Nevada and California.
The current systems work really well in on-line Casino's.....but...... the Nevada Casino's wrote the laws banning US players from betting on-line.....boy O' boy....... treated like a 5 year old.
Anyway :
It is important to never bet more than you have won when playing these systems. I am going to lay-out, line by line, the first page, of real recorded rolls, in the Zumma Craps System Testing book.
I have to go, at the moment, but I'll post again later this AM.....
Best....
Jim
Dear W7,
unfortunatelly i cannot access the john patrick message board where I can see the systems. Would it present a great deal of trouble to write instructions here in this thread or if you want you can PM me with them.
I greatly appreciate your hard work and devotion
thank you in advance
Earth-Bounds........
I was thinking about how I fly to Laughlin,Nevada once a Month, for the last year, on Harraha's 130 seat MD-80 Jet....for free ! They fly all over the US to the Laughlan property.
I had to beg a seat for Jan. because I have been winning in Laughlin and the one thing Casino's do not like is a constant winner.
That is why I love playing the " 3+CAPPING SYSTEM " and the " 77CRAPS SYSTEM " in the wee hours of the morning, on Shuffle-Master Rapid Craps machines......no heat at that time of the day.
The Golden Nugget Casino in Laughlin, refuses to send me ANY offers......hummmmm ? They have an empty Casino, most ot the time and I guess because I have taken $$$$, using the above systems, on my last 2 trips.....no offers ?
The two systems work together to keep my interest in the craps game profitable. Then one system is NOT manifesting, the other will carry my game.
The US Stock market is now run by computers doing day-trading for the big banks. I did pick up $9,000.00 last Month when the QE2 was announced....but...now I am in cash.......therefore the only good game I see now is in gaming.
Whatever, I am rambling so........
The " 3+CAPPING CRAPS SYSTEM " & the " 77 CRAPS SYSTEM " with John Patricks " RICHOCHET CRAPS SYSTEM " tacked on to the end of these two plays is what I am currently playing.
The 3+ CAPPING SYSTEM works on Bacc. and Roulette but you can not use the Richochet System on them.....therefore, the RICOCHET adds another layer of " Player Winning Bias " to use against the Casino's and RNG's of the World !
...very nice ! ....jading the probable outcome back to the player.....jesssss ! the damn Casino's rip-off the players, on a daily basis, with the neg. expectation Casino games they offer.
I printed out what I was going to post today, from JP's site, but I have misplaced it ? I will find it and post it.....stay tuned.
Best,
Jim
Hi Jim , appreciate your thread . I live in the San Diego also and make a hobby of gambling methods mostly in craps , roulette and baccarrat , with some successbut not long term but it does'nt stop me from continually trying. I was thinking that it might be a good idea if we met for a coffee and discussed what you have and some strategy , maybe there is a partnership there , or maybe we can just help each other toward some success , My email is grooviin@msn. com Thanks Charlie
Charlie 201, All....... :thumbsup:
TRIP REPORT :
Harraha's Laughlin MD80 comped Air Program....
I boarded Harraha's 130 seat plane 100 miles South of my home at the new Bakersfield, Ca. Airport. The plane takes only 38 minutes to fly from Bakersfield to Bullhead City, Arizona. It saves me 18 hours (RT) of driving time.
Only 28 players boarded in Bakersfield. We then flew over and up the Ca. Coast and picked up 68 players at the Santa Maria, Ca. Airport. That made the flight to Bullhead City, Arizona only 58 minutes long.
We landed at 10PM. The landing was awesome....we landed from the West and the plane slowly passed the river-side Casino's with their colored lights reflecting off the Colorado River...nice.
We then boarded Harraha's new 45 seat buses for the 5 minute ride across the Arizona border to the Laughlin Casino's facing the Airport.
While waiting the two hours for my luggage to be dropped off in my room, I ordered up a refrigerator and coffee pot from the check-in desk. Harraha's has a room with refrig.'s on each floor. To get one, you have to just ask. :shout:
My game plan after seeing the craps table full of duffers, on arrival, was to wait until 3:00AM before heading down to the craps table because the " 77 Craps System " and the " 3+Capping Craps System " work best when I can get a roll outcome within 4-5 seconds.
The clock in my head went off at 3:00AM.... so.... I drifted off the 3rd floor to the craps table. A good looking young girl and here Grandfather were the only players at the craps table. She was shooting from the PL and was extremely lucky. She had 11 outcomes in-a-row fall to the PL side !
I should have switched betting sides. I did not get off my DP betting side and I got killed ! I colored up what was left of my betting session kitty.
I set down and played $5.00 6/5 BJ on the BJ table next to the craps table so I could see how long it would take for her to color-up.
I played BJ for an hour before they colored up around 5:00AM. I did not see them leave with very many chips. I also colored up at BJ and slipped over to the empty craps table.
The table stayed empty and I charted like crazy ...playing the 77 System or the 3 + Capping System when the first to manifest a betting signal appeared on the felt. I colored up a + $600.00 profit at 9:00AM.
After a coffee break, I went back to craps. It had a kid playing craps that I saw board the plane in Santa Maria, Ca. We got to talking and his name was Alan C. from the Santa Barbara area.
He seemed very bright ( a computer tech. ) but he did not really know how to bet craps so I did a quickie explaination of my betting strat. and he took to it like a duck to water ! :good:
I showed him how I bet a dooy-don't for table min.'s of $5.00 while waiting for one of the two systems to set up.
We worked together... he would chart my thrown numbers and I charted his rolls. It made the game faster.
When two 7's manifested in back-to-back rolls or with no box numbers between the 7's, ( 7-3-7...7-2-12-7...7-2-3-12-7 ) we ditched the do'ie / don't $5.00 betting system.
We quickly scanned back on our charted numbers to see which number of the 4,5,9, and 10 that had NOT come-up the longest ( the most out of favor of the four numbers ....we exclude the 6 and 8 because they come up to often) to LAY-BET a 100% hedge on our pre C/0 bet we placed in the DP box at the same time we LAY-BETTED the 100% hedge bet.....
EXAMPLE :
Say the 4 has not come up in 23 rolls....we take a $100.00 lay bet ... " No 4 for a hundred " and at the same time put $50.00 in the pre C/O point, DP box. When the " 9 " or whatever, is set as the point ...we take down our 100% ...$100.00 protection bet against the C/O 7.
I told Alan, in my back testing for 10's of thousands of real, back-to-back, recorded rolls, I do NOT take odds on the first point bet because I have no banked winnings to cover a loss. I like to bank a Grant ( $50.00 bill ) on my first system-bet and I stay at the $50.00 max. bet-level until I have two wins in-a-row.
When I have won two $50.00 bets, I move up to a + $100.00 or a + $150.00 bet on the 3rd bet.....win it ....up to no more than $100.00 to + $150.00 in the DP box. (the odds bet at a 6x table on the $150.00 bet is a massive $900.00 ! )
That is my max. odds table bet...$900.00.
Upon winning three completed outcomes ( three 7-out's ) , in a row, back-testing says to regress to the no-odds base min. bet of $50.00 with no odds betting.....bet at this level until a loss happens. A loss by an 11 showing up on the C/O roll when a play is in progress or the damn hedge-point sets up as the point.....thus.... we have been " Richocheted. "
When that happens, almost 100% of the time, when our DP bet travels to the just knocked-off hedge-point-number, we can recover the lost Richochet $$$$ by taking odds on the new point. It is awesome how the 7-out occures after a Richochet loss ! :dance1:
If the 3+Capping System shows up in the recorded rolls before the 77 Craps System sets up, we played the 3+Capping System first.
The 3+Capping System is a simple system that jades the laws of probability in the players favor. You wait for a MIN. of 3 back-to-back PL wins to pass and when the string of PL wins get " Capped off " by a DP win, we set-up the Richochet pre-come-out play to take away the Casino's C/O edge when the " 7 " appears on the pre-point roll.
EXAMPLE : 7...4,4...6,8,5,6...8,9,8....10,7 .....the 4 PL wins are " Capped " by the 10,7 ...we now go into the pre-C/O Richochet System to get our DP point number est. without ( most likely ) being killed by the C/O 7.
Our comped trip was for 4 days. Alan and I played the two systems in the no-players-at-the craps-table hours of the day ( 3:00AM ) to as late as Noon. When the PL players came to the table around Noon, we colored up and took a cab to the Colorado Belle Casino.
The Belle has two $2.00 BJ tables that pay 1-1/2 on all BJ's ! However, the table min.'s are changed to $3.00 around 10AM to 11AM. A good low stress BJ game always was to be had.
Alan uses a 4-step neg, progression and I use a 32-step Silverthorne Neural Progression on BJ.
We daily colored-up 3-figure loot over our buy-ins and we used the $35.00 (each) lunch comps. Ask the pit boss for a comp...presto ! ...a 35.00 comp appears on your table !
The Laughlin Casino's ( excluding Harraha's ) have few players in the morning. A retired aircraft engineer, who sat next to me on the plane said he walked the two miles from Harraha's to the bridge and visited most all the Laughlin Casino's.
He said the most players he found on the table games floors were 6 players at one Casino. Most Casino's had only 4 or 5 players in the table games areas. The riverboat Capt. said Laughlin has gone way downhill... :skull: ...sad.
It was a good trip...not quite a double-up of the gaming kitty trip... but close.
Thoughts ?
Best Regards,
Jim