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Title: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: admin on December 12, 2007, 03:18:42 AM
Hello dear forum family.

As the title says, playing and mastering only 1 number is the ultimate roulette challenge.

I have opened the following post to test and see first-hand how is the behaviour of 1-number flat betting:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1197439796

"Flat betting the Zero & learning"




The very first step to master something is to know it inside out.

Learnning how to identify periods of concentration and dispersion for the target single spot I think is the key to 1-number play.

Let's see where this 1-number line of study leads us. Straight-up is the most high-playing location at the table, if only 1 number is spun, then isn't 1 number the best bet?  [smiley=vrolijk_1.gif] Only 1 unit placed, and 35 chips net profit... well, this is also the location where the wildest swings happen!!!

The goal: seeing the swings, understanding where we are, and acting accordingly.

Click on it:
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1197439796

And let's brainstorm those methodologies!
Victor
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: admin on February 10, 2008, 01:32:59 AM
As in every bet selection I see waves of concentration and dispersion of hits. Now, for 1-number only the volatily is the highest! With a 1-35 payout, that can be rewarding.

Because of this volatility, what happens usually when the longest sleeping number return ( wakes-up )... Anyone care to tell ;) This is the line of thought I am trying to elaborate from. a 1-number timeline for us to see the frequent events and surf the clearly bad times.

Remember: When learning numerical groups dynamics, we can extrapolate to every other group using the same amount of numbers, in this case 1-number events.

( EVENT = Anything you can think of involving 1 number only. From an event being "Number 32 spun" to "Sum 9 to last number spun", "disk-space count from last number to current one clockwise", etc. etc. etc.

Anyone? :)
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: Arteinvivo on March 30, 2008, 09:21:04 AM
VLS, since it's a binary game (1 or 0), i like to track it using a binary representation.

As with Red/Black what you want to represent is the absence of an event or its occurence. Let's keep a running count such as this : When a number hit increase the count +1, when a number does not hit for 37 spins decrease the count -1. Next you can forget about the count but trace an ascending line starting from 0 when a number hit and trace a descending line when a number go by without showing for 37 spins.

You want to get a visual representation of the behavior of one number. What you'll see ? a different way to process an emerging trend which should engage more than just the usual analitycal side of your brain.
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: admin on March 30, 2008, 10:43:02 AM
YEP Arty, my point is that whatever the event, there will be times in which it comes more than expected and less than expected. As we know, it comes in clumps. Then, a) To ride a running "clump" or b) To "try to catch" a running clump, never betting on a sleeper event, but only once it wakes take a bit of risk.

If you have a load of 1-number events running at once, then the better, since they all will present roughky the same behaviour.
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: Arteinvivo on March 30, 2008, 12:54:08 PM
VLS, the problem when you track events at Roulette is that contrarily to a horses race where horses start at different positions to equalize the chance betwen them because of the length of the different tracks we don't know the real starting positions we should give to the numbers when we start tracking. I find this aspect a real headache as it falsifies the results. If all number would start the race at the same time, it would be much easier but it is not the case and we need another way to measure the frequency.
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: gizmotron on April 02, 2008, 02:36:42 PM
Let's cut to the chase scene.

I've mastered this topic extensively. I tested for 300 spins that relates to about ten hours play. You need to know the break point for 300 spins.  It's 8.5 hits per 300 spins. A normal hot number will hit from 14 to 30 times in 300 spins. Approximately 10 to 12 numbers will hit more than 8 times with half of them being in the 12 to 14 range.

So what's the problem in going after them. Well it's selecting a hot number isn't it. Any hot number can go cold as soon as you start betting it. You might not see a repeat in 170 spins. So knowing what to expect is very important and I recommend testing this in 300 spin sized sims so that you can gain a real understanding of practical expectations in using this technique for gambling.
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: robski on October 08, 2009, 03:46:45 AM
Hi Guys, interesting topic.   Have played a 1 number system for ages now.  It can be boring but it can be fantastic.  All i simply do is absolutely no monitoring or progressions up,except for   look for a number that has shown twice within 10 spins.   not 11  but 10 or less.  once that has happened, play that number straight up for the next 10 spins or until it hits. so llooking for a nuber to hit 3 times in total withing 20 spins.  the first 2 hits to confirm thats the number to play and the 3rd hit will be the profit hopefully,  leave the hit chip on the table in case of a double.  I know it sounds impossible to win but things are sometimes not what they seem.  Please go to hamburg spiesbank site and download a few days of numbers.  start from the top and work your way through.   You will see most days are winning days,  then we can talk about doing it live.   Sing out if it is of any interest.   Steve  Brisbane australia. 8)
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: Chuck Roast on November 09, 2009, 11:54:04 PM
Just browsing through the posts and found this subject of interest.   If you decided to play 300 spins, couldn't one track and play only the numbers that have shown the most? For example, track numbers until 3 have come up twice.  Play those 3 numbers until another number or numbers  shows more than the original numbers and then play that number.  In this way you would always be playing the numbers that have shown the most. 

Because you are playing a long session, (300 spins),  it would seem that there would be 3 that would show more often than the other repeaters, so you would be betting the right repeating numbers.  Three numbers is arbitrary, you could use 1, 2 or 5 or more numbers.     Anyone have any thoughts. 

My first post. 

Chuck
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: VLSroulette on November 10, 2009, 12:02:57 AM
Welcome to the forum Chuck,

Within a 300-spin session, our fellow forumer Gizmotron said one has to expect a certain amount of hot numbers. He mentioned he had to stop using it due to time constraint at a manual wheel, but it was consistent.

If there is someone you can trust to give you insight on hot numbers at the 300-spin sample length it is him.

You may want to call his attention by sending a PM (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/pm/?sa=send;u=2000) and inviting him to this thread.

Thanks for making your first post. Hope you have a nice time around.

Victor
Title: Re: Playing 1 Number = The ultimate challenge
Post by: geoff365 on November 10, 2009, 06:14:07 AM
Another thing is once the number(s) take the lead they very rarely get caught.
Then the switch over/fade arrives at about 250 spins.
The leader system by Apache thread on the old VIP had loads of info.
The main problem being the entry point.
The mediation of all spins is spin 24. So the more sleepers the lower the mediation, the hotter the number(s) will be.
It's a nightmare. :scratch_ones_head: