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Title: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 13, 2008, 09:27:24 AM
Hello forum

I wonder, does it exist any method or system to get 1 chip 100%?.

I mean only 1 [smiley=shocked.gif] is it hard?

Cheers
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: Malty on February 13, 2008, 01:58:10 PM
There wasn't any system like this......There isn't any system like this.....There won't be a system like this......
Nothing in this world is 100%....nothing......

You asked is it really that hard?? My friend.....if there would be something like that the casinos would ban roulette long time ago....

I would advise you to read a bit more of the post in this forum...I think tah tyou can learn alot my friend...

Wish you a nice day,

Malty
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: admin on February 13, 2008, 02:36:19 PM
QuoteHello forum

I wonder, does it exist any method or system to get 1 chip 100%?.

I mean only 1 [smiley=shocked.gif] is it hard?

Cheers

Hi mate. Even if not 100% , you can work with the averages.

You could go with a very very large bankroll and a D'alembert to try to get +1

You could use a reversed progression on the even chances and leave if you are +1 or more in one favorable "concatenation of hits" (i.e. with reversed marty).

You can try to use Balance/Imbalance and wait for a heavy inbalance and try to catch +1 from the return of the %, then leave.

...there are actually many ways in which you could get +1 "almost always", but it would be a matter on how much you lose when you don't get the +1 ( i.e. session "from hell" losing from the very first spin all the way down and never recoup -it happens).

Instead of looking for a 100% way, my advice is to look at how to win in the averages  [smiley=smiley.gif]

Regards,
Victor
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: lucky_strike on February 13, 2008, 02:55:42 PM
QuoteI mean only 1 :o is it hard?

J Daniels. is this what you are looking for...

I have been experimenting whit small bankrolls and used a bet selection based upon imbalance and no progression, just for fun...

Here is a short test i run. BR 4 units Profit 31 units.

So if this is what you are looking for i can recommend my next post of CPM  [smiley=wink.gif]


(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg135.imageshack.us%2Fimg135%2F8312%2Ftestbu8.jpg&hash=514ac84a592790961ce0ad0d0efae7d376eafdae)

Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 13, 2008, 03:05:57 PM
".there are actually many ways in which you could get +1 "almost always", but it would be a matter on how much you lose when you don't get the +1"

I see, you are completly right. this what I was thinking though. The point to play roulette, at least for me, Its to have a regular income with 99% chances to win,. Its what we all dream about ( maybe not  :P ). But even with a big rate of winning, you should be sure to dont lose it all in case you lose. Thats why you can make +1 profit, but how much are you risking for that.. it doesnt make sens. But if you want to get, for example, 50€/$ a month, why instead of playing a lot wich 1€$ chips and wining 1 by 1, just take a bigger 50€$ chip and get only +1?. The less you bet, the less its the chance to lose.

Well, VLS I was reading your strategic Lw`s game lately. I think this method its the only way at the time. Congratulations for your nice job, really smart. :). I know that you are working on lines, dozens etc.. where the Lw concentration is bigger. I am making some test with the system against the secuence, and the L and w concentration are really together:

nolinkswLnolinksnolinkswLnolinksnolinksnolinksnolinksLnolinksnolinksnolinksnolinksnolinksnolinksnolinkswwL

What do you think? could we do a good use of that?

Thanks for the responses and Cheers

JackDaniels


Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 13, 2008, 03:13:45 PM
Lol luckyS. you answered just when I was posting [smiley=lolk.gif].

Exactly! its what i was looking for, something like that. If you go to casino just 1 per 2 weeks and get +1, +2 or +3 of course we are talking about 1 chip it can either 1 euro or 100... or 1000.., isnt it better than going there every day making the same but smaller?. If u lose at least, you dont lose your time!


Thanks and Cheers!
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 13, 2008, 03:18:17 PM
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Nothing in this world is 100%....nothing.....

Well, i can tell you 100% that We all are gonna die!! ;)

Have a nice day too [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: lucky_strike on February 13, 2008, 05:06:04 PM

Ops... that was fun did we post at the same time ;D
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: addonai on February 13, 2008, 07:12:01 PM
Sure...they are a system...

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1202935632

Regards
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 13, 2008, 11:54:07 PM
So, maybe a progression that could hold a ratio of -10 and +10 surfing above and under 0 forever?

Im not a math guy. I believe in rational and strategic play but.. do you guys think this is possible? could you like that get one unit every time? Maybe Its not possible..

Regards

JackDaniels
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: kawa4711 on February 14, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
@Lucky Strike

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Here is a short test I run. BR 4 units Profit 31 units.  
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Which system brings this excellent result?
Best regards

kawa4711
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: lucky_strike on February 14, 2008, 03:02:10 PM

Its based upon Cut Point Methodology and i have to add that was just a short test.

I will make a new post for it soon.

Cheers Lucky Strike
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: kawa4711 on February 15, 2008, 02:58:15 PM
@Lucky Strike

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
QuoteIts based upon Cut Point Methodology and I have to add that was just a short test.

QuoteI will make a new post for it soon.

I m curious about this interesting idea

Best regards
kawa4711
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: MattyMattz on February 18, 2008, 04:08:08 PM
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Its based upon Cut Point Methodology and i have to add that was just a short test.

I will make a new post for it soon.

Cheers Lucky Strike


Just curious - how is this a "short test" when it entails over 10,000 spins??

Matt
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: lucky_strike on February 18, 2008, 05:07:44 PM

Hi i just tried an idea whit a statistcal ecart less then 2,5 win 2 in a row and i would not use anything that hasn't been tested for 100 000 or above.

Cheers Lucky Strike
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 18, 2008, 07:08:56 PM
true..
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 24, 2008, 10:53:49 PM
I got a question and I would be very grateful if someone answer:

Is it a 100% event that in a cycle of 37 numbers at least 1 number will repeat? or in another words:

in a cycle of 37 numbers, NEVER 37 DIFFERENT numbers will show up?

Thanks

JD.
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: admin on February 25, 2008, 12:59:02 AM
I doubt you could find in a natural real wheel sample a 37-number sequence without a repeat. I repeat NATURALLY, meaning the sets you play for real money manually at the real table.

If you [highlight]bruteforce[/highlight] the 37-spin sequence with an array/cluster of powerful computers working all day long generating RNG numbers until there is a sequence of "no repeats", then it means you are a math-boy... doing so just to have the last word!




Remember, if you ask the math boys they will say any combination of 37 numbers is the same, no difference in probability.

So, the accepted thing is : 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,37
is as likely as the last 37-spin set you withnessed and it is TRUE in the terms of probability. But guess what? Playing naturally (as said above, without a computer-based RNG bruteforce) I won't bet my life for finding it in real money play :)
Title: Re: 100 % ?
Post by: J.Daniels on February 28, 2008, 09:32:19 AM
[highlight]THANKS[/highlight] victor for your answer

Then if this is a hardly ever event, we can make good use of it. I mean according with this fact, we could arrange a progression within a cycle of 37 spins betting the numbers that are showing up. Or better wait a certain group of numbers that didnt repeat in the beginning of the cycle and then start the progression. As long as we know we have a nice percentage to win in the cycle, it wouldnt be a problem a losing cycle once or twice. I think its a good idea.

Ill work on it.

JD.