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The Holy Gral or G.U.T the Great Universal Theory

Started by winkel, August 20, 2008, 09:42:05 AM

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Boo_Ray


Wildcard


Must i teach you everything, Sam ?   :P

Ok, so picking up the winkels words and changing them to suit your question:

(Remember you have  31  13   12   12, meaning 13 numbers didn´t appear)


  then we might come to this point:
13 - 12  (see red numbers above)
now we bet the 13 numbers that not appeared because the statistic has to change to 12 - 13
during the spins we bet when the following combinations appear:
19 - 18
18 - 17
17 - 17
17 - 16
16 - 16
16 - 15
15 - 15
15 - 14
14 - 14
14 - 13
etc.
  <<<<<<<<    This etc. also means  13 - 13
                                                        13 - 12
                                                        12 - 12
                                                        12 - 11
                                                        and another etc.

So, according to the outlined rules, one would bet the 13 numbers that did not appear... clear as muddy water ;) ....

Yeah, i know, i´m surprised with myself too !

Boo_Ray

31 13 12 12

But that means that we have 2 triggers? but in that case we would bet 25numbers? [smiley=3/explode.gif]

Wildcard


Boo_Ray, that thought has crossed my mind also... Maybe winkel could clarify this part.


Boo_Ray

maybe that bet has higher priority

maybe bet priority is fading from left to right..

well, we better just wait for winkel [smiley=cheesy.gif]

TwoCatSam

Wildcard

Yes, please teach me everything.  I am but a sponge for knowledge!  LOL

See, in my old brain, you must do the same thing every time.  In the first example, I assumed you added the 1x and the >1 to get 18.  Now I want to do that again.  If not, why not?

Sam

JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 20, 2008, 05:17:05 PM
Wildcard

Yes, please teach me everything.  I am but a sponge for knowledge!  LOL

See, in my old brain, you must do the same thing every time.  In the first example, I assumed you added the 1x and the >1 to get 18.  Now I want to do that again.  If not, why not?

Sam

Sam,

You have been testing different systems. Have you already found a system which make good constant profits?

Jur

TwoCatSam

JHM

Not yet.  I am high on the Selecta4 system and a few others. 

Since I did so poorly on my money management, I have penalized myself by not betting until October 1st.  This is good in two ways:  I will have time to examine my mental errors and I will do testing during that time.

I am a firm believer that the key to profits will be found in double-advantage systems.  The Selecta4 is one in my view.  It never bets on a number unless it has hit once, therefore it seeks repeaters.  And it bets on the most active Section. 

I am still high on my Chicco/murph system and some others. 

I'll post under testing.  I'm capturing 200 numbers on my other computer right now for testing today.

Sam

JHM

Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 20, 2008, 05:26:16 PM
JHM

Not yet.  I am high on the Selecta4 system and a few others. 

Since I did so poorly on my money management, I have penalized myself by not betting until October 1st.  This is good in two ways:  I will have time to examine my mental errors and I will do testing during that time.

I am a firm believer that the key to profits will be found in double-advantage systems.  The Selecta4 is one in my view.  It never bets on a number unless it has hit once, therefore it seeks repeaters.  And it bets on the most active Section. 

I am still high on my Chicco/murph system and some others. 

I'll post under testing.  I'm capturing 200 numbers on my other computer right now for testing today.

Sam

Thank you for sharing Sam. Keep me/us posted. A day will come, I'm sure, we'll beat the table and make a good constant profit.

Sam for what it's worth it, you can play dublinbet.com live with fun money. You can keep betting live.

Jur

Wildcard

 Sam, from what I can gather, you don´t really need to add...

You are under the (false) impression that you need to sum the  1x and the >1 together.  On the 1st example it happens to be true, however, the NOT APPEARED count keeps decreasing as the other two keep increasing, so there will be a point from which one onwards you will never get that sum to be equal or lower to the NOT APPEARED value.

Forget about adding, concentrate on subtracting.

Here you have : (10)   19   11   7

                                19- (11 + 7) = 1 = betting opportunity  ........ Now we are at school :)   On this example the sum is fine because 19 numbers that did not appear minus the sum of the numbers that appeared once and those that appeared more than once is one (1).


But then you wish to do the same about  (31)   13         12         12  ... In this case, the sum would be worthless. 
                                                                  |           |
                                The idea here is relating 13   and  12...... betting the 13 (numbers) left unhit.
                                                                  |           |
                             WHY ? Because you have 13 minus 12 = 1 = betting opportunity, as per the rules.

Capice ?

Now, the question here is what to do about the 12 12 since I believe it might be considered a trigger also.

Either that or I am also lost here.   HELP winkel


winkel

@all

as I mentioned before it the BASIC!!!!!!!!

@TCS
you got the way of counting the numbers.

your question for the second position:
13 12 12
wins and changes to
12 13 12

betting the 13 would be right following the original system.
But I have to make sure you all understand the way the system selects the numbers. After you got that I can explain further hints to play or to play not.

I think it would be best you take some spins of your past games or out of thread of original dublin-spins or take OC-Spins or any other origin.

First hint: Don´t play the 19 or 18 numbers. Play only less than 18 numbers.

br
winkel





winkel

QuoteNow, the question here is what to do about the 12 12 since I believe it might be considered a trigger also.

That is a problem that sometimes appears.

It is a law that the numbers that are in the game go straight to Zero (see the diagramm in first post "red line)
So we play the Non-appearers at first.

On the other hand:
If you would have decided to play the 12 once-appearers what would have happened?:
31   13   12   12
25   12   13   12 loss -12
27   12   13   12 loss -12
17   11   14   12 loss -12 and now the difference is "2" so stopp playing and look for another "crossing-situation"
27   11   14   12

This is a build-in stopp-loss
If there is no other crossing in sight, just start collecting new numbers starting with 37 - 0!

Same if we have continued playing the 13 N - 12 F
25   12   13   12 betting 13 once-app.
27   12   13   12 loss -13
17   11   14   12 loss -13 stopp playing because we play 13 only twice!

br
winkel

winkel

QuoteBut that means that we have 2 triggers? but in that case we would bet 25numbers?

to booray and wildcard:

just notice:
1. don´t play more than 17 numbers! Otherwise you can´t equalize losses!
2. play the first first

look at the odds: 13 to 24 for the non-appearers and 12 to 25 for once-appearers

TwoCatSam

Wildcard

Thanks for your help, but I'm not clear on why you bet here:

10   19   11   7 play 19 numbers that not yet appear  ..............where do you get the 18?  winkel said to bet when it was 19-18.
29   18   12   7 win -19+36=+17

If I can't get past that, there's no need for me to continue.

This is what I'm referring to from his post one:

"then we might come to this point:
19 - 18
now we bet the 19 numbers that not appeared because the statistic has to change to 18 - 19
during the spins we bet when the following combinations appear:
19 - 18"

What are the columns 1x and >1 for? 

Is this thing basically waiting for 19 numbers not to hit and then betting the rest?

Sam


winkel

QuoteDo you track it on paper ? Have you played it live or live online ? Do you think this is IT ?

to wildcard:
if you exercise you will find a way to note it that you can read and play. It´s a thing of experience.

as I say int the topic: This is the Gral
I play it day by day during play my other holy-gral-play that nearly nobody noticed.
The system of counting numbers is the same.

It is always:
R for non-appearers
N for numbers came once
F for numbers that came more than once

br
winkel

winkel

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