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Title: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 28, 2008, 11:41:56 PM
A fellow named Cox pm-ed me and asked about this.  I thought I had it all on my hard drive, but it's gone.  I thought it was on the Forum but it's gone.  So I wrote it again.  Bet I save it this time.

I told Cox I would make a tutorial.  What I have in mind is to use this for my test instead of the G.U.T. 4Selecta, etc.  A bankroll of 166 would not last a day with those three systems working together if they all have bad days, which they could! 

A friend wrote and told me I was taking on too much.  I immediately discounted his advice, but he is right.  Thanks!!

Here ya go, Cox.



How I use the VLS Lw Methodology..........

First download the software.  I will put it in the downloads section if it is not already there.

Begin putting in the numbers.  You will see this start to form:  LwwLLw...

What we are seeking is a trend in either the last dozen/column or the jump dozen/column.  A last dozen/column is where one of the last two to come hits again.  These are dozens or columns: 1123321232.....and the next dozen/column is 2.  That would be a last d/c as it is one of the last two to come.  32...  Now using those same numbers, say we get a 1 d/c.  That is a jump as it did NOT hit either of the last two—it jumped somewhere else.

That is all there is to that.  You must learn it from front to back or you will fail!  Use the software—put in numbers and study!!

That part is Victor's and it is pretty much etched in stone.  The following is mine as taught to me by Victor and Lanky and modified to my own liking.  What are we looking for?  Makes no difference which we are using:

LD....I am looking for this (w)LwLwLw  That is a sequence of three singles
JD....or this:  (w)LwwLwwLww  See how the w repeats?
LC
JC

Note the parenthesis!  I will not start a sequence on LL.....like LLwLwLw....I must have wLwLwLw.  Same with the Lww  Must start wLww.......

Now, we play two ways.  For the LwLwLw I wait for the next L and bet for a w.  For the LwwLwwLww...I wait for the next L and bet for a w and then another w.  Two bets.

VERY IMPORTANT... It makes me no difference how many w are in between:  LnolinkswLwLw is really LwLwLw.   LnolinkswwLwwLww is LwwLwwLww.  Remember Mr Chips and his Sections:

HG
HG
HG........are all one HG

Same with the w...either just one or just two depending on the sequence.  Now the L.....

With the LwLwLw...I stay for two losses.....or LL and then I bet for both LL and Lw.  It gets tricky here.  Say you have LwLwLwLL.....I ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS bet for LL to become w so in this case I would bet a unit for LL and unit for the second try at LwLwLw.....I know that is tough!

Let's say I get this.  My real bet is in {}.  LwLwLwL{L}..I lost.  That is one loss on my LwLwLw sequence and I give it two.  I just encountered an L, so I'm betting for w twice—once for the LL and once for the second chance at LwLwLwL{L}}w}.  If I lose I have this LwLwLwL{L}{L} which is my stop for this bet.  I must now wait for a new sequence of LwLwLw or LwwLwwLww.

What if I have this:  LwLwLwL{L}{w}..Not only did I win on the LL bet, but also on the second bet for LwLwLw and I now have one strike against this run.  Another and it's dead.  If I get LwLwLwL{L}...I only bet for the LL and not for the LwLwLw as this was strike two and it's dead.

Cox, this is most of it and I'm tired, so I will let you PRINT and study this and then we'll continue!

EDIT:  The LwwLwwLww

When I see that sequence I bet for the second and third w.  Note:  This sequence can and often does morph into the LwLwLw.  OK, I have this:  wLwwLwwLww....remember I must start clean with a single L at the front.  When the next L comes, I bet for w.  If I win, I bet for w again.  If I win I stop and wait for a L.

If I lose the first bet.  It is wL{L}..  Remember, I ALWAYS bet the LL to become LLw.  Losing the first bet causes me to bet a unit for the LL and a second unit because we give each sequence two tries.  Now, this gets so complicated I just say bet three units a forget why.  Well, I'll try...

We are betting for the second and third occurrence in the sequence.  L (betting for w) (betting for w)  I am betting once for the second chance, once for the third w and once for the LL.  I just forget the reason and bet 3 units when I have (w)LwwLwwLwwL{L}.  I won this bet a lot of the time.

Now, you absolutely must keep records in addition to using the software.  (I also created a take-to-the-casino version of the software only on paper which works very well once you memorize the Lasts and Jumps.)  I just write this on paper:

LD

JD

LC

JC

and I note whether there is one strike against the heading by putting a 1 there.  Now, if the sequence is this:  (w)LwwLwwL{L}{w}, that would cause a 1 as one strike is against the sequence.  A sequence can and often does erase that 1 simply by hitting a bunch of Lww after the {L} which lost.

If there is about to be a complete sequence, i.e. (w)LwLwL (I only need another w and an L to bet) I put a . next to the heading.  This keeps me on alert that a sequence is about to form.

While people will tell you this will not and does not work, I think it does.  I know it won't win every day.  I usually quit when I saw LLL in three places.  When I logged on and went for a long time without LLL happening, I always made $100.  Some days it is very annoying and boring as you will just swap money for what seems like forever.  Eventually you will see the LLLs or you will start winning.  You just have to stick with it.

I pumped a $200 bankroll to around a thousand.  Then, as some will recall, I went for $5 per dozen/column to $25 and lost it all. 

I reckon I should give it another try.

Bought a web cam today!!  Still won't show my face, but I may do some other things.

Sam
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Coxx16 on September 29, 2008, 02:34:26 AM
Thanks for the help Sam! Im looking forward to using this!  ;D
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: VICLIMKS on September 29, 2008, 06:28:28 AM
Thanks sam........gonna learn this before nxt casino visit. : :P
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: coolpaddy on September 29, 2008, 09:01:04 AM

Hi Sam,

An excellent summary of Victor's masterpiece. The original work is a long standing dish with knowledgeable players, and both Lanky and yourself have added to one of the very rare strategies which has stood the test of time.



                     
                                                            Best regards

Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 29, 2008, 10:04:57 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: caddy on September 29, 2008, 07:42:02 PM
Sam,

In the above post, you said that Col/doz #2 qualified.

Why didn't Col/doz #3 qualify at the 5th of the 11233?
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A last dozen/column is where one of the last two to come hits again.  These are dozens or columns: 1123321232.....and the next dozen/column is 2.  That would be a last d/c as it is one of the last two to come.  32...
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 29, 2008, 08:35:43 PM
caddy

Guess I wasn't clear. 

Jump dozen or jump column means that the dozen or column that came was NOT one of the last two. 

Example: 

Number 6......First dozen
Number 32....Third dozen

At this point, if a 1st or a 3rd dozen comes next, it is called LD; if a 2nd dozen column comes next it "jumped".

"These are dozens or columns: 1123321232.....and the next dozen/column is 2."  This was just a bunch of numbers I typed.  I'm surprised I didn't have a 4 in there!  Take the first three:  112  That's really 12 as you just look at the last two that are different!  Perhaps I should have said that.  The last two that are different.  Sorry....  Anyway 1 2.......next spin...either 1 or 2 is LD   3 is JD.

Sorry.

I am sick and tired of roulette!  Thought I'd never say it!

Sam
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Coxx16 on September 29, 2008, 09:30:23 PM
 I have been reading a lot of your posts TwoCat. Why not take a break from testing systems for awhile and just make some money? You said that you made quite a bit of money with this strategy.
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 29, 2008, 09:37:45 PM
Cox

You're right!  I am sick of testing, but I swore I would collect 5,000 spins and I'll do it.

Then the 200 per day crap is over and I can start enjoying the game again.  Still, I've got this 166 unit trial........

Sam
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Spike on September 29, 2008, 10:49:49 PM
I am sick and tired of roulette!  Thought I'd never say it!>>>

I switched to bac. All bets in roulette can be reduced to B/R, so it makes sense to switch to a game thats twice as fast, has a 1.4% edge,[smiley=3D-gal/36_2_36.gif] [smiley=3D-gal/36_2_38.gif] [smiley=3D-gal/36_2_47.gif] [smiley=3D-gal/36_5_2.gif]  and has no zeros.
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: hammy on September 30, 2008, 12:11:23 PM
Good point "Spike" ,

that zero or dbl zero can be a killer !

plus Bac is more trendy (is that a word ?) perhaps more predictable ?

Let us know how you make out.

cheers,
hammy
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: TwoCatSam on September 30, 2008, 10:46:37 PM
To all

The second half of my post is edited into the first.  Look for the big, red EDIT.

Any questions cheerfully answered.

Sam
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: MattyMattz on October 01, 2008, 09:18:55 AM
Nice post Sam.  I also agree that the Lw Method can work great.  I use it with my 5 lines and have had more than 30 straight days of winning (keeping in mind I only make one bet a day).  There have been losses, but few and far between.

Cheers - good luck with that side account.

Matt
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Lanky on October 01, 2008, 09:46:12 AM
Yes Good Post Samster.

QuoteSam wrote
While people will tell you this will not and does not work, I think it does.

Amen to that Brother.

Lanky.
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Coxx16 on October 01, 2008, 07:56:56 PM
Very interesting.....

I have a question though. If the LLL situation will kill your bank roll. why not wait for LLL to show then bet for  w on the 4th and fifth with a progression? Or Flat bet the 5th  with a insurance bet on the 0? 
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Coxx16 on October 01, 2008, 07:58:02 PM
Also, has anyone tried this with and RNG?
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: MattyMattz on October 01, 2008, 08:21:33 PM
Quote from: Coxx16 on October 01, 2008, 07:56:56 PM
Very interesting.....

I have a question though. If the LLL situation will kill your bank roll. why not wait for LLL to show then bet for  w on the 4th and fifth with a progression? Or Flat bet the 5th  with a insurance bet on the 0? 

Don't know if you were addressing me Coxx, but if you were...
I have found that back-to-back LLL are very rare, much rarer that LLLLL.  I have seen many 4 or 5xL so I dropped that idea.  Plus I never did like the idea of using a progression on 5 lines.  Too big of a climb.  Plus, waiting for LLLLL to happen can take ages sometimes, were LLL happen a little more frequently, just not consecutively.   


Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Coxx16 on October 01, 2008, 08:30:36 PM
thanks for the reply Matt. I was addressing anyone who has tried the system in live play.
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Lanky on October 01, 2008, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: Coxx16 on October 01, 2008, 07:56:56 PM
Very interesting.....

I have a question though. If the LLL situation will kill your bank roll. why not wait for LLL to show then bet for  w on the 4th and fifth with a progression? Or Flat bet the 5th  with a insurance bet on the 0? 

Hi Coxx16 .

The reason that Sam & I bet the LL <<W to come is because over many many many thousands of spins collected & played by Us over an 18 month + time frame.
The LLw pattern will hit approx 83% +
The LLLw hits at approx 90% +

However the most Ls in a row that I have seen on the LD is 9
On the JD is 9
On The LC is 7 (i think)
On the JC is 14 then a zero and another 4 on Column one.

QuoteAlso, has anyone tried this with and RNG?

Yes I have played Video Roulette and I had no trouble with it at all.
But Its out here in Australia where our Gameing Laws are strictly policed.

Victors Lw Method has been successful on Live Dealer,Airball & Video Roulette.

Here is a Quote from Star City Australia that I just got for You Mate.

QuoteVegas Star Roulette is just like a traditional roulette game
except that the result is now determined by a random number generator
and you place your bets via a touch screen on your individual layout.
This greatly increases the level of comfort you experience while playing
as you no longer have to lean and stretch across a layout to place your chips.
Your chances of winning on this game are the same as that of a traditional roulette table.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

Ps: I would never play RNG on-line. I would never trust them. I never play on-line anyway.






Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Coxx16 on October 02, 2008, 08:17:55 PM
Awesome,

I have been using the software and practicing online for the last few days. I guess my last question would be  at TCS. You said that you tippled your bank roll and then lost it all when you raised the unit value. (although the amount of units stayed the same regardless) How do I best adjust this strategy for long term profit? Actually this question is for anyone that can answer it lol
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: See_Jerek on October 03, 2008, 08:56:48 AM
Hi Sammy,

Thank you for putting this software together,it saves us a lot of time when playing online,no more writing down the Lws again on a piece of papar.This is how I use it as I am a quite a newbie I am asking anyone who can tell me is it ok for me to play this method.

I wait for a LLL or LLLL to appear then back the dozens/columns to become a w next spin
I usually bet 3 or 5 units on each dozen and columns if lose triple the bet I know this can be really risky,5Ls do appear once in a while isn't it?

A friend of mine advise me not to progress instead just wait for another 4L and bets remain the same.If 5Ls appear 3 times,then it will be unstoppable and have to take loss.

What do you guys think?

Regards,
Jerek
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: See_Jerek on October 03, 2008, 09:06:25 AM
Quote from: Lanky on October 01, 2008, 11:00:41 PM
Quote from: Coxx16 on October 01, 2008, 07:56:56 PM
Very interesting.....

I have a question though. If the LLL situation will kill your bank roll. why not wait for LLL to show then bet for  w on the 4th and fifth with a progression? Or Flat bet the 5th  with a insurance bet on the 0? 

Hi Coxx16 .

The reason that Sam & I bet the LL <<W to come is because over many many many thousands of spins collected & played by Us over an 18 month + time frame.
The LLw pattern will hit approx 83% +
The LLLw hits at approx 90% +

However the most Ls in a row that I have seen on the LD is 9
On the JD is 9
On The LC is 7 (i think)
On the JC is 14 then a zero and another 4 on Column one.

QuoteAlso, has anyone tried this with and RNG?

Yes I have played Video Roulette and I had no trouble with it at all.
But Its out here in Australia where our Gameing Laws are strictly policed.

Victors Lw Method has been successful on Live Dealer,Airball & Video Roulette.

Here is a Quote from Star City Australia that I just got for You Mate.

QuoteVegas Star Roulette is just like a traditional roulette game
except that the result is now determined by a random number generator
and you place your bets via a touch screen on your individual layout.
This greatly increases the level of comfort you experience while playing
as you no longer have to lean and stretch across a layout to place your chips.
Your chances of winning on this game are the same as that of a traditional roulette table.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

Ps: I would never play RNG on-line. I would never trust them. I never play on-line anyway.








Hi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand. 

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: TwoCatSam on October 03, 2008, 10:26:43 AM
jerek

Victor wrote that software, not me.  Thanks for the compliment anyway.


I suppose there are many ways to play the Lw system.  I just found one that works for me and was easy to play.  When I get some family and yard issues behind me, I will  play it some.  I bought a webcam to make a presentation movie of any system I use.

Sam
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Lanky on October 03, 2008, 10:31:23 AM
QuoteHi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky










Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: See_Jerek on October 03, 2008, 11:41:09 AM
Quote from: Lanky on October 03, 2008, 10:31:23 AM
QuoteHi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky

Hi Lanky,

This makes the game of roulette difficult to call,the ideal method will be to flat bet and not to cover the loss with a progression that is what I think
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: See_Jerek on October 04, 2008, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: Lanky on October 03, 2008, 10:31:23 AM
QuoteHi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky


Hi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com

LD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw
JD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww
LC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL
JC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw

Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: See_Jerek on October 04, 2008, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: see_jerek on October 04, 2008, 07:31:23 AM
Quote from: Lanky on October 03, 2008, 10:31:23 AM
QuoteHi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky


Hi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com

LD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw
JD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww
LC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL
JC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw

Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.

I had another session in the evening,see

LD:-ww-wLLwLLwLLnolinkswLwLwwLwLnolinkswwLLwLLLLnolinkswwLnolinkswLLwLL
JD:LwLLnolinksLnolinksnolinkswwLnolinksLLwLwLwLnolinks-LnolinksnolinksLLLnolinkswLwwLww
LC:-Lw-LLnolinksnolinksLLLnolinksnolinkswwLLwLwwLw-LLLLLLLwwLnolinksnolinkswLww
JC:-wLLwwLLLwwLnolinkswLLwLLLnolinksLnolinksww-nolinksnolinkswLLwLwLnolinksLwLL

This time round I stay away from columns look at the LLLLLLL no kind of progression can get through that
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Lanky on October 04, 2008, 09:28:31 PM
QuoteHi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com

LD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw
JD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww
LC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL
JC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw

Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.

Hi Jerek.

Mate when the JD & JC Go wLLL << That means the same Dozen/Column has come 4 times in a row.
And I find on average that Happens much more on them then it does on the LD & LC.

I find the LD patterns much more consistant overall.

Lanky.
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Lanky on October 04, 2008, 09:52:47 PM
Hi Jerek.

QuoteLC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL
QuoteLC:-Lw-LLnolinksnolinksLLLnolinksnolinkswwLLwLwwLw-LLLLLLLwwLnolinksnolinkswLww

They are the last 2 Sessions on the LC that You have posted.
Only 3 times have they gone past LLL or more.

Lets Compare that to the Last 2 sessions on the JC

QuoteJC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw
QuoteJC:-wLLwwLLLwwLnolinkswLLwLLLnolinksLnolinksww-nolinksnolinkswLLwLwLnolinksLwLL

There Has been 5 times on the JC.

Now continuing this Lets now do a comparison with the LD & the JD

QuoteLD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw
QuoteLD:-ww-wLLwLLwLLnolinkswLwLwwLwLnolinkswwLLwLLLLnolinkswwLnolinkswLLwLL

Once it went LLL or worse (this is unusual it will normally be more then that)

Now The JD
QuoteJD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww
QuoteJD:LwLLnolinksLnolinksnolinkswwLnolinksLLwLwLwLnolinks-LnolinksnolinksLLLnolinkswLwwLww

Six times it went LLL or more.

So if You were playing the JD & the JC combination.
This would have happened to You 11 Times.

Compared to 4 times on the LD & LC Combination.

I have found that when I have played that LLL + on the LD would occur less then the JD.

But Maybe I have just been lucky.

Your Friend.

Lanky


Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: See_Jerek on October 05, 2008, 05:32:55 AM
Quote from: Lanky on October 04, 2008, 09:28:31 PM
QuoteHi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com



Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.

Hi Jerek.

Mate when the JD & JC Go wLLL << That means the same Dozen/Column has come 4 times in a row.
And I find on average that Happens much more on them then it does on the LD & LC.

I find the LD patterns much more consistant overall.

Lanky.


Hi Lanky,

I redicovered the Lws,to be honest I hit the wall last nite when a LLLLLLL on LD came up,try to use martingale to overcome it but it never.I went into the chat room in the middle of the night feeling really sore about it,thats where I meet nobody and I would like to give special mention to him,he virtually painstakingly what Lws and all about and the 6 point diversor.

Now we look at the patterns again


LD:LwnolinkswnolinkswLwLwnolinkswLwwwLLwnolinkswLLwwLwwwLLwnolinksLwwwLwLw

See the colours do you think I have a better idea now?and the 6 point diversor really wants to avoid sucidal progression

The 1st pattern I am chasing Lw then came a series a nolinks,then I lost the bet and the pattern change to LLw,then lose the 2nd bet it change back to Lw,if a LLL comes up stop all bets ,track down the bets do we looks at the most recent 3 times again?or juts the most recent pattern before losing to a LLL.I hope I am doing this right this time,once I get off line last nite I just couldn't sleep and woke up use the Lw method I just learn with the 6 point diversor and grind back 200 units.this morning I grind back another 200 units.200 is 20% of my bankroll all these are all victor's ways of beating roulette.
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Lanky on October 05, 2008, 07:53:51 AM
Hi see_jerek .

Yes Mate It looks Like You have it now.

Good Luck with it.


Lanky.

Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: rjl on October 26, 2008, 07:48:53 PM
Hello,


Just added in download area an Excel Lw tracker.

It comes with a session from Dublinbet.

All you have to do is input your numbers, place your bets in the yellow cells, and test, test, test....

I'm beginning to learn Lw patterns, if someone knows some more good patterns to follow, it'd be good to see it here.


Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: MattyMattz on October 27, 2008, 03:51:48 PM
Hi rjl,

look forward to downloading the excel sheet.  I've been too busy to sit down and attempt to write something.  Hope it's what I was looking for. 

Cheers,
Matt
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: pgtmedu on December 16, 2008, 02:05:08 PM
Hi,
What is L & w
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: TwoCatSam on December 16, 2008, 02:06:12 PM
Loss
win
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Shorty on December 16, 2008, 02:06:36 PM
Loss
&
Win
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: pgtmedu on December 17, 2008, 06:05:01 AM
Thank Sam and Shorty for the explanation
Dinh
Title: Re: The VLS Lw Methodology
Post by: Just_Gabe on May 27, 2009, 05:12:18 AM
Man, thank you very much for the explaining.  I've been using it along with some patterns given by RPro on another thread and this stuff worked wonders!

At times I started to lose badly, but with time and patience I worked my way up and it tripled my BR in a little less than an hour from 16 units to 48 units!

I think this is the best method I have come across as I've never used a method that won in such a consistent way and with very little risk.  And more important, no risky progressions! :)

I'll just go to Facebook and create the "I (L) the LW method" and invite friends even if they don't know what the hell I'm talking about :P

Seriously, I'm really happy right now! my morale skyrocketed (along with my BR!), thank you very much! :)