Simon's 2 Dozen system using the Lw's

[See_Jerek]

Fluker, if the 1st dozen comes first do you play 123-123-123? and if the 3rd one comes first do you play 321-321-321 until win or until loss?

Yes Hermes thats correct and I guess if the 2nd dozen came out first you could go 231 231 231 or 213 213 but I just find it easier waiting for 1 or 3.

I've been messing around with the reverse D' Alembert going 1x1 2x2 3x3 4x4 5x5 and reset back to 1x1 or on a loss step back down 4x4 3x3 ect.

Example:


1       1  (dozen 1 came so 123,123,ect )
34      2           
21      3
0       1
6       2
21      3

===============================================================
                                D' Alembert                  Reversed D' Alembert 
1       1                          (bet 1x1)                        (bet 1x1) 
34      2  w                 +1 (bet 1x1)                   +1 (bet 2x2)
21      3  w                 +2 (bet 1x1)                   +3 (bet 3x3)
0       1  L                  0  (bet 2x2)                    -3 (bet 2x2)                               
6       2  w                 +2 (bet 1x1)                   -1 (bet 3x3)                 
21      3  w                 +3 (bet 1x1)                   +2 (bet 4x4)
27      1  w                 +4 (bet 1x1)                   +6 (bet 5x5) [step back 1x1]
7       2  w                 +5 (bet 1x1)                   +11 (bet 1x1)
34      3   L                 +3 (bet 2x2)                   +9 (bet 1x1)
12      1   L                 -1 (bet 3x3)                   +7 (bet 1x1)
27      2   w                +2 (bet 2x2)                   +8 (bet 2x2)
17      3   w                +4 (bet 1x1)                   +10 (bet 3x3)
33      1   w                +5 (bet 1x1)                   +13 (bet 4x4)                         
25      2   w                +6 (bet 1x1)                   +17 (bet 5x5)   

Seems the better way but if it gets caught on the 5x5 with a L followed by 4 more L's could lead to trouble but saying that i've noticed streaks of nolinksnolinksnolinksnolinks after LLLLL so should recover most of the time.

Cheers,

L 

Hello Fluker,

Have you done more testing on this?I have played simon's dozen system and ever hit the wall on progression,I don't know if someone has a method to overcome it.

If there is anything positive from tests please advise

[Fluker]

Fluker, if the 1st dozen comes first do you play 123-123-123? and if the 3rd one comes first do you play 321-321-321 until win or until loss?

Yes Hermes thats correct and I guess if the 2nd dozen came out first you could go 231 231 231 or 213 213 but I just find it easier waiting for 1 or 3.

I've been messing around with the reverse D' Alembert going 1x1 2x2 3x3 4x4 5x5 and reset back to 1x1 or on a loss step back down 4x4 3x3 ect.

Example:


1       1  (dozen 1 came so 123,123,ect )
34      2           
21      3
0       1
6       2
21      3

===============================================================
                                D' Alembert                  Reversed D' Alembert 
1       1                          (bet 1x1)                        (bet 1x1) 
34      2  w                 +1 (bet 1x1)                   +1 (bet 2x2)
21      3  w                 +2 (bet 1x1)                   +3 (bet 3x3)
0       1  L                  0  (bet 2x2)                    -3 (bet 2x2)                               
6       2  w                 +2 (bet 1x1)                   -1 (bet 3x3)                 
21      3  w                 +3 (bet 1x1)                   +2 (bet 4x4)
27      1  w                 +4 (bet 1x1)                   +6 (bet 5x5) [step back 1x1]
7       2  w                 +5 (bet 1x1)                   +11 (bet 1x1)
34      3   L                 +3 (bet 2x2)                   +9 (bet 1x1)
12      1   L                 -1 (bet 3x3)                   +7 (bet 1x1)
27      2   w                +2 (bet 2x2)                   +8 (bet 2x2)
17      3   w                +4 (bet 1x1)                   +10 (bet 3x3)
33      1   w                +5 (bet 1x1)                   +13 (bet 4x4)                         
25      2   w                +6 (bet 1x1)                   +17 (bet 5x5)   

Seems the better way but if it gets caught on the 5x5 with a L followed by 4 more L's could lead to trouble but saying that i've noticed streaks of nolinksnolinksnolinksnolinks after LLLLL so should recover most of the time.

Cheers,

L 

Hello Fluker,

Have you done more testing on this?I have played simon's dozen system and ever hit the wall on progression,I don't know if someone has a method to overcome it.

If there is anything positive from tests please advise

Hi See_jerek,

I've done no more testing because of the lack of feedback so I'm guessing It's probaly not worth it.

[See_Jerek]

The strange thing is Simon is willing hell a lot of money with this,I try but didn't get the same positive result as him.I am sure others have tried and not getting anything good.Really beats me mate

[chrle]

I played this sistem today on 1livecasino.com(vuetec)
deposit 10 euro and now I have 20euro
10euro profit 1.30 h playing.


my advice avoid when is doing this:33313
                                               22212
                                               11131....I never bet when he hit 3,4,5 times in one dozen.
I change table and looking for mixing 12322 now bet.

I had 12 wins 1 lose and I play flat.

good luck!!!

[roules]

Another thing Simon suggests is wait for LL, this cuts the progression down somewhat. He's got a screenshot on RF of his account, 55000GBP, thanks to plenty of time and patience. The 2200 unit progression isn't a big concern for him I don't think. I like this system too but the original progression is mad.

Update: Suggested progression - Labouchere or Midas method and/or with LW

[RouletteRoy]

Bet 2 dozen have disadvantage, that is it cancell the gain.
There will only one section gain, and never two section gain at one time.

So this is a waste, suicide methology.
and return merely 50% of total bet

better way is bet is 18 number with small lost but section with big win, and flexible to choose section any time, no need to stick to onmne section.

[RouletteRoy]

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