The VLS Lw Methodology

[Coxx16]

Also, has anyone tried this with and RNG?

[MattyMattz]

Very interesting.....

I have a question though. If the LLL situation will kill your bank roll. why not wait for LLL to show then bet for  w on the 4th and fifth with a progression? Or Flat bet the 5th  with a insurance bet on the 0? 

Don't know if you were addressing me Coxx, but if you were...
I have found that back-to-back LLL are very rare, much rarer that LLLLL.  I have seen many 4 or 5xL so I dropped that idea.  Plus I never did like the idea of using a progression on 5 lines.  Too big of a climb.  Plus, waiting for LLLLL to happen can take ages sometimes, were LLL happen a little more frequently, just not consecutively.   

[Coxx16]

thanks for the reply Matt. I was addressing anyone who has tried the system in live play.

[Lanky]

Very interesting.....

I have a question though. If the LLL situation will kill your bank roll. why not wait for LLL to show then bet for  w on the 4th and fifth with a progression? Or Flat bet the 5th  with a insurance bet on the 0? 

Hi Coxx16 .

The reason that Sam & I bet the LL <<W to come is because over many many many thousands of spins collected & played by Us over an 18 month + time frame.
The LLw pattern will hit approx 83% +
The LLLw hits at approx 90% +

However the most Ls in a row that I have seen on the LD is 9
On the JD is 9
On The LC is 7 (i think)
On the JC is 14 then a zero and another 4 on Column one.

Also, has anyone tried this with and RNG?

Yes I have played Video Roulette and I had no trouble with it at all.
But Its out here in Australia where our Gameing Laws are strictly policed.

Victors Lw Method has been successful on Live Dealer,Airball & Video Roulette.

Here is a Quote from Star City Australia that I just got for You Mate.

Vegas Star Roulette is just like a traditional roulette game
except that the result is now determined by a random number generator
and you place your bets via a touch screen on your individual layout.
This greatly increases the level of comfort you experience while playing
as you no longer have to lean and stretch across a layout to place your chips.
Your chances of winning on this game are the same as that of a traditional roulette table.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

Ps: I would never play RNG on-line. I would never trust them. I never play on-line anyway.

[Coxx16]

Awesome,

I have been using the software and practicing online for the last few days. I guess my last question would be  at TCS. You said that you tippled your bank roll and then lost it all when you raised the unit value. (although the amount of units stayed the same regardless) How do I best adjust this strategy for long term profit? Actually this question is for anyone that can answer it lol

[See_Jerek]

Hi Sammy,

Thank you for putting this software together,it saves us a lot of time when playing online,no more writing down the Lws again on a piece of papar.This is how I use it as I am a quite a newbie I am asking anyone who can tell me is it ok for me to play this method.

I wait for a LLL or LLLL to appear then back the dozens/columns to become a w next spin
I usually bet 3 or 5 units on each dozen and columns if lose triple the bet I know this can be really risky,5Ls do appear once in a while isn't it?

A friend of mine advise me not to progress instead just wait for another 4L and bets remain the same.If 5Ls appear 3 times,then it will be unstoppable and have to take loss.

What do you guys think?

Regards,
Jerek

[See_Jerek]

Very interesting.....

I have a question though. If the LLL situation will kill your bank roll. why not wait for LLL to show then bet for  w on the 4th and fifth with a progression? Or Flat bet the 5th  with a insurance bet on the 0? 

Hi Coxx16 .

The reason that Sam & I bet the LL <<W to come is because over many many many thousands of spins collected & played by Us over an 18 month + time frame.
The LLw pattern will hit approx 83% +
The LLLw hits at approx 90% +

However the most Ls in a row that I have seen on the LD is 9
On the JD is 9
On The LC is 7 (i think)
On the JC is 14 then a zero and another 4 on Column one.

Also, has anyone tried this with and RNG?

Yes I have played Video Roulette and I had no trouble with it at all.
But Its out here in Australia where our Gameing Laws are strictly policed.

Victors Lw Method has been successful on Live Dealer,Airball & Video Roulette.

Here is a Quote from Star City Australia that I just got for You Mate.

Vegas Star Roulette is just like a traditional roulette game
except that the result is now determined by a random number generator
and you place your bets via a touch screen on your individual layout.
This greatly increases the level of comfort you experience while playing
as you no longer have to lean and stretch across a layout to place your chips.
Your chances of winning on this game are the same as that of a traditional roulette table.

Your Friend.

Lanky.

Ps: I would never play RNG on-line. I would never trust them. I never play on-line anyway.

Hi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand. 

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

[TwoCatSam]

jerek

Victor wrote that software, not me.  Thanks for the compliment anyway.


I suppose there are many ways to play the Lw system.  I just found one that works for me and was easy to play.  When I get some family and yard issues behind me, I will  play it some.  I bought a webcam to make a presentation movie of any system I use.

Sam

[Lanky]

Hi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky

[See_Jerek]

Hi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky

Hi Lanky,

This makes the game of roulette difficult to call,the ideal method will be to flat bet and not to cover the loss with a progression that is what I think

[See_Jerek]

Hi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky

Hi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com

LD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw
JD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww
LC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL
JC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw

Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.

[See_Jerek]

Hi Lanky,

Thanks for sharing your insight.According to your stats,I think when a LLLL comes up it will mean taking loss.There are just too many schools of thought in the LW method.Some wait for 2Ls with progression,some 3 Ls with progression,some 4L no progression wait for another repeat,I am also confused as I don't know what is the best method.In progression,I do believe safety is important because it might go out of hand.  

Can LLL safe for progression?this is my concern

Hi see_jerek .

Mate no one can say here you do it this way & no other way.
That would be foolish.
I certainly Can't give you a Guarantee that after LLL comes it will always win on a progression.
No-one Can Mate.

In fact when the LLL came Victor taught to turn & bet the L's until nolinks came.

I normally will wait LLLL before turning.But I have had some good wins after LLwL has come too.
But even so playing both ways there is no Iron Clad promises.

Victor ,Sam & I all rely on patterns.(which suit us)(and we differ at times with them)

It all depends on what numbers the roulette wheel is dispersing at the time that will determine if we can win or not.

Its no good Us saying that its safe to bet after LLL.
Because that might be the start of the longest L run in the History of Roulette.

We Never know what that particular wheel or wheels have thrown in way of Patterns or numbers since we were not there.

That's why I normally always record the 1st 20 numbers to get a feel for what is happening now.

Have I walked in & seen LLL and bet ?? Yes... Have I won every time ...NO.

I also rely on the Ws trending like this for example.
LwLwwLnolinksL << You can see that along with the Lw pattern the W's are trending upwards ..not down.
Can I Guarantee it will work all the time ..NO I cant.

Your Friend.

Lanky

Hi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com

LD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw
JD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww
LC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL
JC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw

Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.

I had another session in the evening,see

LD:-ww-wLLwLLwLLnolinkswLwLwwLwLnolinkswwLLwLLLLnolinkswwLnolinkswLLwLL
JD:LwLLnolinksLnolinksnolinkswwLnolinksLLwLwLwLnolinks-LnolinksnolinksLLLnolinkswLwwLww
LC:-Lw-LLnolinksnolinksLLLnolinksnolinkswwLLwLwwLw-LLLLLLLwwLnolinksnolinkswLww
JC:-wLLwwLLLwwLnolinkswLLwLLLnolinksLnolinksww-nolinksnolinkswLLwLwLnolinksLwLL

This time round I stay away from columns look at the LLLLLLL no kind of progression can get through that

[Lanky]

Hi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com

LD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw
JD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww
LC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL
JC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw

Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.

Hi Jerek.

Mate when the JD & JC Go wLLL << That means the same Dozen/Column has come 4 times in a row.
And I find on average that Happens much more on them then it does on the LD & LC.

I find the LD patterns much more consistant overall.

Lanky.

[Lanky]

Hi Jerek.

LC:wLwwLLwLwLwLwLwwLnolinksLnolinkswLwLwwLLnolinksnolinksLLnolinksLLLwLnolinksL

LC:-Lw-LLnolinksnolinksLLLnolinksnolinkswwLLwLwwLw-LLLLLLLwwLnolinksnolinkswLww

They are the last 2 Sessions on the LC that You have posted.
Only 3 times have they gone past LLL or more.

Lets Compare that to the Last 2 sessions on the JC

JC:LnolinksnolinkswLwLwLwwLwLLLwLLLLnolinksLnolinksLLLwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLw

JC:-wLLwwLLLwwLnolinkswLLwLLLnolinksLnolinksww-nolinksnolinkswLLwLwLnolinksLwLL

There Has been 5 times on the JC.

Now continuing this Lets now do a comparison with the LD & the JD

LD:LnolinksnolinksnolinkswLwLnolinkswwLnolinksLLnolinkswwLLwwLnolinksLLnolinkswLnolinksLwLw

LD:-ww-wLLwLLwLLnolinkswLwLwwLwLnolinkswwLLwLLLLnolinkswwLnolinkswLLwLL

Once it went LLL or worse (this is unusual it will normally be more then that)

Now The JD

JD:wLwLnolinksLLnolinksnolinksnolinksLwLLLwwLLLLLnolinkswwLLLwwLLLwwLLLwLww

JD:LwLLnolinksLnolinksnolinkswwLnolinksLLwLwLwLnolinks-LnolinksnolinksLLLnolinkswLwwLww

Six times it went LLL or more.

So if You were playing the JD & the JC combination.
This would have happened to You 11 Times.

Compared to 4 times on the LD & LC Combination.

I have found that when I have played that LLL + on the LD would occur less then the JD.

But Maybe I have just been lucky.

Your Friend.

Lanky

[See_Jerek]

Hi Lanky, these are the patterns I have got at bet365.com



Notice the LLLL and the LLL are concentrating on JD and JC,is this the norm?
For this session the LD seems more stable,in fact when I have game last night it was pretty stable as well.

Hi Jerek.

Mate when the JD & JC Go wLLL << That means the same Dozen/Column has come 4 times in a row.
And I find on average that Happens much more on them then it does on the LD & LC.

I find the LD patterns much more consistant overall.

Lanky.

Hi Lanky,

I redicovered the Lws,to be honest I hit the wall last nite when a LLLLLLL on LD came up,try to use martingale to overcome it but it never.I went into the chat room in the middle of the night feeling really sore about it,thats where I meet nobody and I would like to give special mention to him,he virtually painstakingly what Lws and all about and the 6 point diversor.

Now we look at the patterns again


LD:LwnolinkswnolinkswLwLwnolinkswLwwwLLwnolinkswLLwwLwwwLLwnolinksLwwwLwLw

See the colours do you think I have a better idea now?and the 6 point diversor really wants to avoid sucidal progression

The 1st pattern I am chasing Lw then came a series a nolinks,then I lost the bet and the pattern change to LLw,then lose the 2nd bet it change back to Lw,if a LLL comes up stop all bets ,track down the bets do we looks at the most recent 3 times again?or juts the most recent pattern before losing to a LLL.I hope I am doing this right this time,once I get off line last nite I just couldn't sleep and woke up use the Lw method I just learn with the 6 point diversor and grind back 200 units.this morning I grind back another 200 units.200 is 20% of my bankroll all these are all victor's ways of beating roulette.

[See_Jerek]

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