Interesting point from the Wiz site

[Mr J]

You'll never stop me from spreading the word.....AP (cough) is fine in theory ONLY.

Ken

[Kelly]

Same rules and i hate that ? I haven`t got a clue what you talk about and i doubt you do.  I offered to open all records if you did the same.   Whatever it is you think i don`t wanna do that i demand you do, i honestly haven`t got a clue.  You are the first person that i don`t understand where im sitting with a feeling that its because im too intelligent.  Mind you i try to meet people eyeball to eyeball in all aspects but you somehow fall right through.   

Never mind, you play your AP schedule, for whatever reason when you hate it so much.

[Mr J]

The only person confused here is me....I dont have a clue what you are talking about sir? If you want to continue your QUEST with AP (cough), nobody is stopping you. Have a blast with it but dont try and JAM IT down the throats of method posters. Am I asking alot from you? I dont think so.

Ken

[Kelly]

LOL, i give up.  YOU keep posting questions to the ap crew, not me.  Damn, im not used to doors that talks back at me. In trotlodytish.

[Mr J]

LOL, I give up.  YOU keep posting questions to the ap crew, not me.  Damn, im not used to doors that talks back at me. In trotlodytish.

You ARE part of the AP (cough) crew, correct? What is your issue?

Question for you cause System REFUSED to answer. Can you name me any of YOUR recent threads that I attacked you on? Thanks buddy.

Ken

[iggiv]

folks please. try to refrain from personal attacks, and keep it more on roulette subjects. this forum is not about personality discussion, but rather about roulette. When people start calling each other names, it is leading to nowhere. let's get along.  thanx

[iggiv]

Ken, what do u mean? u think that APs don't win consistently? i am pretty sure they do. but they must be very skillful to do it. I don't understand what your argument with Kelly  is about, but there is no much doubt that he knows the stuff and uses it.

it does not mean that system players are always losing though.

[Kelly]

 

Can you name me any of YOUR recent threads that I attacked you on? Thanks buddy.

Im not really a thread starter, 9 out of 10 of my posts is responses to you. Usually some sort of explanation in what is obviously something where you want me to say that "you need to travel", "you need past numbers", "prove that you do well".

I have not backed down from any of your requests on the contrary i have explained and backed everything up, just once i have asked you to back up why its better to play the hot numbers in the last 25 spins, which you so far have refused.  Not even a reason why they should be better is given.

Come down from your high horse, you are not being picked on by the big boys.  You have by now requested a ton more information from me, than i have requested from you. If you wanna continue this, you have to   live up the standards you require from us.

[Kelly]

Iggi, there  are good and bad advantage players. We have in northern europe a bunch of AP`s that could just as easyly end up in the poor house.  They might, they might not. But their play style is extremely aggressive and under good conditions they win heavyli. But they are tolerated most of the times because they also sometimes lose heavyli because they tends to raise their bets under negative fluctations.  They are determined to win, even if they have to run a tank through the walls and it IS dangerous. But they are still active and as i understand it, still with huge profits. 

Personally i would have been a nervous wreck the way they do it.

[System]

I have been PM'd and personally warned by mod.

So I will not be responding to any of Ken's posts anymore.

[Kelly]

Troublemaker you 

[System]

Troublemaker you 

[bombus]

BMX Flatland Best rider?

[iggiv]

I have been PM'd and personally warned by mod.

So I will not be responding to any of Ken's posts anymore.

System, just no names calling or personal attacks pls, other than that nobody wants to cut off your arguments and reasons. it was not supposed to shut you up. thanx for understanding, bud. All i want is just to prevent this discussion going into a drain with mutual insults and hostility. I am pretty sure we can be gentlemen while defending our opinions.

[Kimo Li]

Hell Mr J,

Back to your original point ...

My point? Its comical that when the AP (cough) crew use PAST RESULTS, its somehow BETTER or more acceptable.....God like almost (lol).


When a hard working method guy wants to use those EXACT SAME numbers, for some reason HE is using gamblers fallacy and destined to lose. Hmmmm, I'm a bit confused.

I am intrigued by the observation you have stated.  I agree, why is that? I think each group are in denial.  The fact of the matter is past numbers is just that, past numbers.

I have used past numbers to study pattern development.  I have categorically labelled these patterns.

The fact that this method requires the study of past numbers to develop patterns still falls in the mind set of the gambler's fallacy.

However, I do not use a method that requires past numbers .  I do not need a method or "AP (cough)".  I simply jump on any table and bet according to law of distribution, using a concept I call STAMP.

Please don't ask me about STAMP.  My point is each group uses past numbers to determine the outcome and both is no better than the other.

Kimo Li

[Kimo Li]

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