Hello
I started an experiment using a dowsing pendulum to predict the outcome of roulette.
The test will be made with real money .
I must declare that i am not some kind of magician and my regular hit rate to predict even chances is 52-55%-regular score for ordinary man.In fact the result fluctuated 45-65%.
Starting bankroll is 80 pounds ,casino bet365-live dealer,min. bet 2 pounds
The rules are -i ask the pendulum about next outcome Hi or Low
If pendulum`s answer is Low i bet 1st and 2nd dozen,one pound each ,and if the answer is Hi i bet 2nd and 3th dozen
If the bet will be lost ,next time i`ll bet double and stop
I started yesterday and till now the results are:
30th August +19
31st August +8
balanse 97
If you guys have any experiense with this pls share
The next idea is to add some ideas from Victor`s LW.Sometimes L`s are single and this is good to play each spin ,but sometimes L`s and W`s come on bunches
Another idea is to bet only on Hi and Low using D`alambert
And i would like to shre with you this that if i`m calm and made just a dew predictions my win rate is higher,After this short rest and again
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If you have 52-55% chance of predicting even chances, you'll win with flat bets. The question is, how did you come up with this percentage? Since everyone else only have 45-47%, depending on type of wheel.
I dont know how i did this %
I just practicing a couple of hundreds spins in dublinbet.But i did it on short series 20-30 spins each ,coz after this my predictions getting bad.
And of course u know that there is a deferesne among real money play and just testing .The harth beats with deferent frequence.Thats why i add short prog. and still didn`t try this with real money .I am not sure what will heppan with this experiment ,but i`ll keep u informed
I once saw a fellow pick horses from the program using some sort of pendulum or crystal on a string.
So, how do you do it? Does the pendulum swing clockwise or counter clockwise to predict the color?
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 31, 2009, 09:57:33 PM
Does the pendulum swing clockwise or counter clockwise to predict the color?
Sam
Northern or Southern Hemisphere?
Sorry i count wrong -balanse is 107 till now .Tomorrow i will continue .
Of couse there is a probability to lose .
usualy at the begining each owner of the pendulum have to program it.
You drow on a peace of paper cyrcle with arrows and say this is yes and this is now
The most common is clock vice =Yes,Antyclockvice is No
Other option is shaking horizontal =No,Vertical =yes
I read the basic stuff from small book .Its basicly to predict lottery ,but for me its seems prity hard to catch 6 numbers from 49.
Roulette seems better for me .The minus is that i havent enought time sometimes till next spin.the pendulum doesnt do good movement and on that case answer is May be and not qualify for the next spin :)
I heard some ppl use to predict sports.
Guys
I am in the Northern Hemisphere. So, do you yourself hold the string or pendulum or do you suspend it from an intimate object such as a tripod? How do you initiate the movement? Or do you?
If I'm not mistaken, some tests were done with dangling plumb bobs (tiny ones) and they always went the direction the holder wanted them to go. When suspended from a tripod, they never moved unless some force caused them to. "A body at rest stays at rest......." and so on.
I will guarantee (or I'll buy you a hamburger) the best way to pick odd/even is to place a die in an old mayonnaise jar and shake it. 1,3 and 5----bet odd. 2,4,6---bet even. You are letting random pick random. (A mustard jar will not work. A pickle jar is OK, but mayo is by far the best.)
Sam
Quote from: TwoCatSam on September 01, 2009, 08:54:48 AM
(A mustard jar will not work. A pickle jar is OK, but mayo is by far the best.)
Sam
Glass or plastic?
When I saw the title of this thread I thought you meant "pendulum" as a metaphor for the ups and downs of the game, not an actual pendulum. :)
Reminds me of a book I haven't looked at for ages -
nolinks://nolinks.amazon.com/Amazing-Wonderful-Mind-Machines-Build/dp/1560870753/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251807713&sr=8-1 (nolinks://nolinks.amazon.com/Amazing-Wonderful-Mind-Machines-Build/dp/1560870753/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1251807713&sr=8-1)
It's a fun book and includes use of the pendulum for dowsing. Sceptics can sneer but the author is a hard-nosed engineer/scientist, not Mystic Meg. Many of these "machines" do work (I've tested them), but shouldn't according to all known laws of physics.
Bombus
Glass gives a better bounce, but rattles a lot. The wife prefers I use plastic! :-*
Sam
1st September
+7 pounds
BR-114
Till now 42% profit
And guys its doesnt matter plastic or glass jar,however doesnt metter cristal or metal pendulum .Most important is believing.
Any way just remember ....its real money test.
Pls do not make jokes with me .its just an experiment and i share with u my results ....and once again .....real money
Most of u know the deferense......aaaaaii
Just for more clear info today game seems like .....
WWLWLWLLWLWWWLWLWW
With flat bet this will be a lil loss.With slight prog ...show some profit
best regards
Quote from: SpensX on September 01, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
And guys its doesn't matter plastic or glass jar,however doesn't metter cristal or metal pendulum .Most important is believing.
So then that would mean it is the belief in the pendulum that holds the predictive power and not the pendulum itself.
That sounds about right to me. You could use anything at all, just like twocatsam said, as long as you have enough faith in it.
More importantly, you could use nothing at all, as long as you have enough faith in yourself... I'd be looking into that one SpensX.
But good luck with your testing.
There is something called Mental dowsing.I heard about a guy that closed his eyes and put his hands over the roulette layout and when he felt somekind of vibration,he know where to bet .I think thats not for everyone .
Thats why i use pendulum .In fact the pendulum catch vibration from or body and transform in cyrcle movement.
At the same time ur mind must be clear ,coz u can control the pendulum .Just try and u`ll see.
In other hand something that is important is queastion .Like example the wrong question is "The next spin will be High number?"with posiblle answers "Yes" and "No"
The right question is "The next spin of Demet on roulette table 1 in dublinbet will be high?"
There is no proof that the pendulum works, it has been acknowledged by science, that is is down to an ideomotor reflex, in other words you make it go where you want to, subconsciously. There is no magic or mysticsm to it.
I studied this sort of thing for years it does not work.
Mike
I studied this sort of thing for years it does not work.>>>
Dowsing has been proven in test after test to do no better than random choice.
I did not say its work or not
I just make a real money test with some progression,coz its not 100% accurate
What about dowsing for water? I've seen some programs on The Learning Channel or Discovery or somesuch that were very intersting. You can actually see the long end of the stick dip while the hands of the dowser never move.
My jury is out on it........
Sam
2nd September
+10 Pounds
BR-124 Pounds
2nd September
2nd session+5 pounds
BR-129
@ two cat
Many of those sort of programs are biased to the dowsers claims, when they have been tested under controlled double blind experiments no one has succeeded better than chance. Programs that promote this kind of phenomenan get good ratings, whereas the sceptical viewpoint does not. as always it is all about the money in the end.
Mike
I've seen some programs on The Learning Channel or Discovery or somesuch that were very intersting. >>>
In controlled tests, water dousing has been debunked over and over again.
Hello guys
Thank u ,for ur opinions .I didn`t claim nothing .And i just do my own experiment and share the results with u .
yesterday after my real play in bet365 i continue my test in dublinbet with play tockens.
Soemthing heppaned that realy amazed me .
about 50 spins i `v got unbelievebal results ,trying to predict EC.I had 75 % hit rate.
After short rest i deceide to continue my test ,but the results were with 44% hit rate :(
I dont know what kind of comment i shoud do .
I do not feel that flat bet is the solution .i think that some kind of prog must be add
Of course if i have all the time hit rate more than 52% flat bet is good ,but what can i say -i still do not believe in myself
4th September +1
BR-125
I was sleepy and tyred and i played just a few minutes
5th September
+9
BR-134
67.5% profit
Pendulums work according to the laws of physics.
The universe knows everything that has happened and everything that is going to happen. This is true because time is not linear. The human being's subconscious mind always has a connection to the universal energy which was responsible for the creation of the material universe. Some people call this energy "God". The ancients had the ability to manipulate this energy directly using their subconscious mind. This is why a lot of the things that they were able to do seem "supernatural" or "extra terrestrial" to us. What a pendulum does is tap into this connection with the universal energy and channel the responses back through the human being's subconscious. The subconscious mind gives the answers.
This is a simple energy transfer from the universal energy to the subconscious mind. Simple physics.
It is best to ask questions that can be answered with concrete values. The questions do not have to be in the form that the required answer is Yes/No, True/False. You can ask a question where the answer is over some range, for example, First ask "What color will the next spin be?" Then ask, "How much money should be risked on the black/red/green bet on the next spin using a range of $10 to $100?".
It works best to print a chart with the possible answers and center the pendulum over the chart so that the pendulum will swing to the correct answer without ambiguity.
For most people the pendulum shows YES or TRUE with a swing that is vertical and shows NO or FALSE with a swing that is side to side, similar to the way most people show agreement with nodding their head and disagreement by shaking their head side to side.
If you are going to use a pendulum for gambling you must first ask the universe if the universe is going to supply you with the information needed for you to be a net winner. Also ask how much net winnings the universe is going to let you have. The universe is not going to give you untold wealth via gambling. Before you ask what the next result will be in roulette ask the universe if it is going to tell you the truth about the next spin. It might say no. ALWAYS ask how much you should risk. The universe might decide to let you win $10 but not $1000.
It is best if you get some white sage and do a cleansing ceremony before you start using the pendulum. Set up a sacred space to keep unwanted energy out.
If you doubt that a pendulum "works" you can easily test it. Here is a test you can do on a day when you don't have to get up at any certain time. Don't set an alarm clock. Remove all the clocks from your bedroom. Put the pendulum and a chart with hours on it near your bed. When you wake up ask the universe "What is the hour of the current time"? Then take a chart with minutes on it and ask "What are the minutes of the current time?". You will get the correct answer. This test answers the critics that claim that the person using the pendulum is purposely making it move to the correct answer. Since you won't know what time it is there is no way you can purposely make the pendulum move to the correct answer.
You can devise other tests for questions that are easily verified for which you have no way of knowing the correct answer.
When using a pendulum it is best to sit in a hard chair with a back and sit with proper posture. Place a chart with the correct answers to the question you are asking on a flat surface directly in front of you. Then place your elbow on the table with your arm vertical. Bend your wrist to the left so that your hand is perpendicular to your arm, that is your hand will be parallel to the flat surface. Your arm can bend to the left a little if that is more comfortable but make sure that your index finger and thumb are parallel to the flat surface. Hold the chain or string between your thumb and index finger, have your index finger and thumb make an oval. Let the pendulum hang freely. I make the charts so that the pendulum at its resting state is in the center of the chart at the bottom of the chart.
Before you begin "break in" the pendulum. I always start with "Show me YES", then "Show me NO", then "Show me I Don't Know", then "Show me I refuse to answer", then "Will the pendulum provide good information to me today?". If you are first starting and you want to "test" the validity of the answers that you will receive you can also ask things like "Is my name __________", "Am I male/female?", "What is the day of the week?", "What is today's date?", etc.
The strength of an answer is usually related to how energetically the pendulum is moving. The more energy in the movement the more sure the answer is.
For gambling the pendulum works better for a small list of outcomes. For example, if you wanted to find winners in horse races it will work better if you first ask "Can you give me one winner out of all of today's races?", Then ask "What is the track at which the winner will run?" (Have a chart with 5 to 10 of the tracks you care about), or you might ask it this way "What is the first letter of the track at which the winner will run?", then ". . . the second letter. . ", etc until the track name is spelled out. Then make a chart with numbers from 1 to the number of races at that track that day. Then ask what race the winner will run in. Then make a chart with the entrants names for that race (or you can use the numbers, I prefer to use the names). Then ask for the winner's name.
If you narrow it to one race the answer you get will be highly predictive. If, on the other hand you asked for a winner in every race at every track the answers will not be as predictive. I believe that the reason for this is that the universe is not going to allow you to make untold riches.
You can do the same experiment with college football games. Ask the universe to give you one winner. I usually ask in a way that the answer can be spelled out letter by letter. In the case where there are multiple schools with the same name with North/South/East/West or where one is for example New Mexico and the other is New Mexico State you need to ask very specifically which one is being referred to.
Here is a test you can do if you are reading this on Sept 6. Make 4 charts with the following choices.
Mississippi Memphis
Colorado State Colorado
Cincinnati Rutgers
Miami Florida Florida State
Then make a second chart with dollar values from $100 to $1000. (Or, $10 to $100, or whatever you are comfortable with).
Then make a third chart with the following three choices:
Money Line Spread Both Money Line and Spread
Now make a 4th chart with the following choices:
Same size bet on money line and spread.
Different sized bets on money line and spread.
Now make a 5th chart with the a range of 1 to 5.
Now for each game ask who the winner will be.
Now for each winner ask if you should bet money line, spread, or both.
If any of the bets are to be both money line and spread ask if the bets should be same size or different size.
If any of the bets are to be different size then ask what the ratio should be of spread bet to money line bet (the spread should always be higher than the money line). For example, if you are going to bet $100 on the money line the answer might be to bet $200 on the spread.
Now ask what size each of the bets should be. For cases where you are supposed to make both a money line and a spread bet once you know the ratio of the two bets you only have to ask for the amount on one of them.
See how you do.
6th September
+6
BR-140
Quote from: TwoCatSam link=topic=11946. msg75662#msg75662 date=1251806088
If I'm not mistaken, some tests were done with dangling plumb bobs (tiny ones) and they always went the direction the holder wanted them to go. When suspended from a tripod, they never moved unless some force caused them to. "A body at rest stays at rest. . . . . . . " and so on.
I can't speak for the test you quote because I haven't seen it. But the argument that a pendulum always goes in the direction that the holder wants it to go in is not true. The pendulum will tell you things to which you could not possibly know the answer so how can you make it go in the "right" direction?
The "fact" that a pendulum suspended from a tripod does not move is irrelevant. It is the connection that the dowser has to the universal energy that is causing the pendulum to move. The answers come through the subconscious mind. I don't think most tripods have a subconscious mind.
The force that is causing the pendulum to move is the universal energy through the subconscious mind.
Thank u for the answer.
Curious you are right ...there is a time when my accuracy amazed me ,and there is a time where is better to flip the coin :)
But anyway i will continue
When you took your rest your body's energy switched. Do a google search on pendulums and energy switching. Before you use a pendulum you have to make sure that your energy is flowing in the manner that gives accurate results. If it isn't, then there are things you can do to switch it.
You also have to clear the energy around you before you start. White sage and creating a sacred space are good for that. Also running water can clear out unwanted energy. Put the pendulum in running water.
White sage and creating a sacred space are good for that.>>>
Putting it on a satin pillow and running counterclockwise around it 3 times really helps too. Might as well go for the gusto.. If Bigfoot is looking at you thru the window though, all bets are off.
As i see ,u guys do not believe in this .
Just try it .U `ll get results 45-55%
Add some prog and thats all.
so far so good
i started with BR 80 and right now is 140
Luck ...may be ,but i`ll continue
I just wanna see where can i go
if it works for you play it. no other system that i have seen wins. you can have six shots at the even money chances and no body can make it work. swing it .
Quote from: SpensX on September 06, 2009, 04:51:23 PM
As I see ,u guys do not believe in this .
Just try it .U `ll get results 45-55%
Add some prog and thats all.
so far so good
I started with BR 80 and right now is 140
Luck ...may be ,but I`ll continue
I just wanna see where can I go
Mate if is your method work ,just keep it and thats it if is stop work open random org learn some easy paterns combined with pendulum and that s it. When I was begin play roulette I was use my girlfriend like pendulum if I ask her which color come and she said black then I know the red is mine... if I ask herr odd or even she said even then I know odd is mine.... you cant believe how many times I was win with that phaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa now look at this.. she was quickly realize after some certain winning about 1000 euro with 10 chips ... that she dont need me and will be better when she start play alone becouse she know what came next but im not gues what now. after 2 months she was win 10 000 just with even chances and with her guesing therefore I ask talk with god and pleasing him that if he know how to learn me this I want to know the same way and gues what one day I was browsing surfing on the net and there I was seen this..... if you dont know !!!alway choose variation,so I was start using variation and finaly when my ex.girlfriend start to losing becouse of unknown luck was occur therefore I start winning that horribly then you cant just imagine. so thats the story with my ex pendulum
Quote from: Spike on September 06, 2009, 04:21:11 PM
White sage and creating a sacred space are good for that.>>>
Putting it on a satin pillow and running counterclockwise around it 3 times really helps too. Might as well go for the gusto.. If Bigfoot is looking at you thru the window though, all bets are off.
More enlightenment from the expert in everything.
8th September
+4
BR-144
My next idea is to play on EC .I explored my test data for prediction of EC.Till now 50.83% accurasy.And the idea is to wait for 2 or 3 decisions-right or wrong LL(L) or WW(W) and play 4 step martingale 2-4-8 -16 the opposite side.
Like example today test of EC was :
WWWLLLLLWWWLLWLLWLLLWLLLWWWLLLLLWWLWLWWWLWLLWLWLWLWWLWLWLLLLLWWLLWLWLWWLWLWLLWLLWWLLWWWWWLLWLWWLLWWWWLLW
105 spins
51W,53 L- 48.57% accurasy
Waiting for LL and WW-profit 26 units
Waiting for LLL and WWW-profit 11 units
11th September
+3
BR-147
12th September
+7
BR-154
14th September
+7
BR-161
SpensX,
Are you using the pendulum for bet sizing and bet selection? Or, only for bet selection? You might want to also use it for bet sizing.
I used pendulum just to predict the bet .
I did not try to predict the size of bet.
In roulette there is not enought time as u give us an example to predict sport.
As i told u before at the last few days i played on EC and i start to bet after 3 right or wrong decision using limited marty LLL 1-2-4-8 ( i just hope that my misses will be less than 7)
I bet for real money just a few times till my mind is still fresh .
But after this i continue the test with play mode .
usually i get result near to 44-50.5% accuracy .
But on the last 2 days my accuracy was 53.5%
I still afraid to use this with flat bets,but if i stay consistently on this level ,i think this is the solution
15th September
+4
BR-165
Accuracy of the test 52.1%
i still do not feel comfortable with marty 1-2-4-8
And i`ll be honest once i go to 1-2-4-8-16 and i was lucky.
Flat bets are not the solution ...i think.
I explored all my data and i found that if i bet 2 step marty 1-2 after a single L.my BR will be at 124
Its slower but its more secure for the BR .The losses occure often ,but is easy to recover.
I mentioned something other ....the W`s occure on biger bunches than L`s.Its more common to see WWWWWWW,than LLLLL.
Thats all 4 now
I would love to see this cat swinging that pendulum at a crowded roulette table. :yahoo: What would the pit boss say? :nono:
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
Yeeeah will be strange in MB casino.
My tests are made it on bet365 and dublinbet
An OUIJA board could do the trick too.
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on September 16, 2009, 07:34:18 AM
I would love to see this cat swinging that pendulum at a crowded roulette table. :yahoo: What would the pit boss say? :nono:
Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!
He plays online.
But even if he did use it in the casino, what could the pit boss say? Last time I checked there was no rule against using divination.