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[Madiba]

@Bebediktus

you right - this is expected, however it can be as low as 12 numbers
for testing purposes, I have intentionally submitted around 24 numbers each time and depends on qualification criteria of submitted numbers
nothing guarantees that hit rate even with that coverage - if it were to win 3 times only out of 12, then it can be tossed in the bin, but what if it ALWAYS wins 7 or more in 12 spins? Can a clever gambler not take advantage of this? Would you?

Column and Dozen players would all be rich if the expected 'maths' results are ALWAYS achieved - however this is not the case

Unfortunately the 'Holy Grail' (at this time) is not betting on a single number to win at 35:1 odds
What if it were an even money (1:1) or 24 number (1:2) odds bet?
Would you not pursue?

[Bebediktus]

I play diferently not based on previous hits. I bet on that what, i see exactly in spin on which I prepare to bet. If I hit I know why I hit, if not I also know why.

[I have cookies]

I have finally made a pact with the  and in return have got the 'Holy Grail'
Many have claimed and many have scammed but none have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt
I intend changing this to show the forum readers that the  game can be beaten and that they should not give up

My system (the  actually) requires a gambler to record 24 spins and then bet for up to the next 12 spins
I have played this system successfully - but don't take my word for it
Send me 3 sets of 24 numbers and I will tell you what your next bets should be - that should prove my case
I will take numbers from a maximum of 20 people only - they can then post the accuracy of my predictions

You have nothing to lose but to silence me once and for all or you could get a valuable insight into beating the  game

Any takers?

This is so boring - during all this years among different forums - this kind of post allways pop up.
At the end they are no different then any other method - how could it be when the wheel has 37 degree of freedom.

[Madiba]

@ i have cookies

send me ur 3 sets of 24 numbers and i'll prove it

so what is the purpose of this forum??? when a solution is offered with proof to back up why do we refuse to believe it??

must i jump through hoops to prove the system??

what is it do we really search for here - the 'holy grail' or ways to prove it does not exist

to each his own ...

[ReDsQuaD]

Yeh, I agree with I Have Cookies. These topics do indeed pop out every now and then, this is nothing new.

As soon as you said this system was based on mathematics, I knew this was no holy grail. Its just another flawed concept that is based on probability/mathematics.

The fact is, it is not possible to beat this game unless you approach wheels with physics.

Don't think I am here to piss in your pool, but its the reality.

[Madiba]

@ redsquad

thanks for your views however be wary of underestimating the power of maths

a simple ms excel program is all that my system requires (after entering specific criteria)

put me to the test - send me 3 sets of 24 numbers 

[I have cookies]

@ I have cookies

send me ur 3 sets of 24 numbers and I'll prove it

so what is the purpose of this forum??? when a solution is offered with proof to back up why do we refuse to believe it??

must I jump through hoops to prove the system??

what is it do we really search for here - the 'holy grail' or ways to prove it does not exist

to each his own ...

I am going to be honest - i am not the best expert when it comes to roulette systems - but i do have rare knowledge that put me above 80 to 90% of all members at vls - how come - well the very best done flat betting on even money position has been made by Marigny - i have hes originals work and with new development and i have test so many methods during the years that nothing new that comes up is just a twist or something similiar of what i read others have done or try out or that i my self have been at the same path.

Is just that to be honest there is no idea give some one a sampel of any spins becouse the only thing that counts is placed bets and the principal of flat betting or using progressions even out to be the same bullshit.
I test and find thing funny to try out even if i alredy know what they are based upon GF - but even if i post and test things out does not mean i am a roulette system player.

I have never seen any one prove me wrong witch would be the following.

One decent method would be where some one can flat betting and win at least +1 unit and it overcomes the attempt doing so with 1024 placed bets witch end up with 10% profit.
If you can do that you would be ok in my book and any-thing else would just be same old garbage as allways.

[Madiba]

@ I have cookies

would love to prove you wrong

I however play between 12 and 24 numbers and sometimes play a small progression (generally when playing  24 numbers)

this is also all new to me - I just got a system that works and Im looking for a way to stop spending 3 hours a day playing it whilst still enjoying the rewards of it. If you can suggest an alternate option to my proposed subscription service then please do so

worst case is that I continue playing it and try better time management with my lifestyle - but then only I benefit
maybe im spoilt now or just getting lazy

I even considered approaching a news station to do a documentary on me and reveal the system - but I would need a lump sum to retire with - wishful thinking or just out the box

roulette can be beaten and has been beaten - once people grasp this then they can understand my predicament

out of curiousity - what would you do if you had the 'holy grail' and don't tell me that you would post it in any forum...

[Madiba]

The fact is, it is not possible to beat this game unless you approach wheels with physics.

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@redsquad
just read your post again and THE FACT IS until you have beaten the game with physics, anything is possible
how can it be a FACT when you or no-one else that I know of has proven conclusively the physics can only beat the game

[ReDsQuaD]

The fact is, it is not possible to beat this game unless you approach wheels with physics.



@redsquad
just read your post again and THE FACT IS until you have beaten the game with physics, anything is possible
how can it be a FACT when you or no-one else that I know of has proven conclusively the physics can only beat the game

Well, for all you know I may have already achieved this, so be careful what you say. Also, know what you are talking about first!

If you want proof, go and do some of your own research and you will discover the facts. It is not up for a debate weather or not physics can beat roulette, because  ITS FACT and is happening every day weather you choose to believe or not.

[Kelly]

I even considered approaching a news station to do a documentary on me and reveal the system - but I would need a lump sum to retire with - wishful thinking or just out the box

The documentary will come by itself once you have a few casino closures behind you and a few Lamborghinis in front of you.

[Nathan Detroit]

Forwarded quote from a casino executive: "Our guests think they are playing roulette but in reality  roulette  is playing them.".

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Apropos quotes . One of my favorite one  by Christian Kaisan :" It is  better to forego a win than to realize a loss..



Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

[Madiba]

@kelly
I like your line of thinking 
if I was only 20 years younger - but what the heck - will give it a try

@nathan
wise words indeed - until I take them for a lamborghini or 2 

[ReDsQuaD]

Why the hell does the topic keep jumping to the top without no new comments..?

[System]

Why the hell does the topic keep jumping to the top without no new comments. . ?

Simple.  Let me answer that.  Because certain system haters (pun intended) ONLY tries to discredit.  Madiba asked for spins.  There he made a mistake.  He should ask for spins from only like minded people and ask others to leave his thread alone.  Simple.  Hallo JJVR 

[System]

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