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Title: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 11:02:56 AM
Hi Guys,

I have an offer to anyone who has a reasonable bankroll.

I've a proven method to beat the wheel, you have probably heard this before at any casino you have been in but I tell no lies.

Here is my offer,

1. I can prove to you that this works via actuals that are supplied by yourself or even a third party.
2. After I have proven to you that it works, we go to a live wheel online and play I will tell you what to be on and it will be even betting, so red/black hi/low even/odd or sections of the wheel (i.e 3 neighbours and 3 numbers)
3. You give me %25 of the winnings until I have enough of a bankroll to play by myself and I give you my secrets at the end.

You may ask why I would make this offer and its simple, I'm unemployed and have no money. I've tested this rigorously for the past 6 months and I am 100% sure that I have a winner. I have even gone to casinos and watched the results coming and see that I would have won.

PM me if your interested. I will only accept someone that has 30 units and each unit must be at least $50, possibly negotiable if with the right person.

Also I prefer online live wheels with more than one wheel. The reason for this is I track 20 spins before betting and then I wait 20 minutes before starting to track again. So this way we get more than one session after each wait.

Hope all this makes sense.

Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 11:28:09 AM
By the way its all flat betting and not some crazy delusional progression betting

FYI
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Nathan Detroit on March 07, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
genuine sob story .
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 11:52:01 AM
Quote from: Nathan Detroit on March 07, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
gwnuine sob story .

lol, why do you say that?

I can prove it want to test me?

Else go take a run and jump with your empty comment.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: superman on March 07, 2013, 12:14:02 PM
What's a reasonable bankroll Dermo?
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 12:21:40 PM
Quote from: superman on March 07, 2013, 12:14:02 PM
What's a reasonable bankroll Dermo?

Hey mate,

You got to have 30-40 units.
As I don't want to spend half my life on this each unit needs to be at least $50, preferably more but $50 will do.
We will play until you have profited 30-40 units and I will get 25% of that.
You will get the ingredients to my betting method and your profits obviously.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 02:05:22 PM
Here are my tests from today, some live and some from past actuals.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: RobbieD on March 07, 2013, 02:34:29 PM
Before someone takes you up on your offer, you have to prove that it works. For someone to lay out that kind of money they need to see the system in action - and win consistently - before committing themselves.

We all have systems that win - but they also lose.............
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 02:42:54 PM
Quote from: RobbieD on March 07, 2013, 02:34:29 PM
Before someone takes you up on your offer, you have to prove that it works. For someone to lay out that kind of money they need to see the system in action - and win consistently - before committing themselves.

We all have systems that win - but they also lose.............

Well yes of course, if you read my initial post you would have read that I will prove it first.
I would hardly expect someone just to take the word of a random person from a forum without some proof.
But this will be done privately and not on a public forum.

Anyway its late here I'm off to bed.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 02:47:30 PM
Forgot to add,

I can spend one full day this weekend with someone showing this working with past actuals.
That should cover a few thousand spins.

Please only contact me if you are serious.

Chat tomorrow
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: ReDsQuaD on March 07, 2013, 02:58:48 PM
Hey superman :D I see you are up to your old tricks again.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: superman on March 07, 2013, 03:32:16 PM
QuoteI see you are up to your old tricks again

What tricks are they?
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: bombus on March 07, 2013, 06:29:08 PM
Quote from: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 12:21:40 PM

You got to have 30-40 units.
As I don't want to spend half my life on this each unit needs to be at least $50, preferably more but $50 will do.
We will play until you have profited 30-40 units and I will get 25% of that.
You will get the ingredients to my betting method and your profits obviously.

So you want about $500 for your system.

Good luck with that.


Also, you should take a quick look at the following link. One new member suffered this fate just a few days ago.

nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=15968.0 (nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=15968.0)
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Steve on March 07, 2013, 06:41:33 PM
It is not hard for anyone to raise $500. You would probably get that from an unemployment office anyway, which would be a better option as you wouldnt need to disclose your system.

And besides whats wrong with $0.5 units and building from there. Even my dead fish can afford that.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 07, 2013, 07:26:04 PM
It ok guys, I have someone working with me now, thanks.

Bombus - your description of my offer is very narrow minded, I offered giving proof first and then a small initial percentage of profits going to me. I was on this forum working with you guys a few years ago and that's why I cam back here to get someone to work with me.
All you can see is black and white mate.

Steve my circumstances at the moment don't allow me to get social assistance unfortunately.

C ya.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: bombus on March 07, 2013, 07:54:11 PM
Betting EC's you would have to play at least 4 or 5 thousand spins to prove you have any edge at all. So your offer of proof is invalid.

If I start off with $2000 betting $50 units and play until we have 40 units profit, that's $2000. Then if I give you 25% of the winnings, that's $500.

So you want $500 for your system. You can say that's narrow minded, or black and white, but I say it's calling a spade a spade.

Good luck to you and your pidgeon.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: pins on March 07, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
how can you prove a system with past spins. beats me.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: superman on March 08, 2013, 04:49:54 AM
Just for the record, and redsquid, I am not the pigeon
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 09, 2013, 12:17:33 PM
Quote from: bombus on March 07, 2013, 07:54:11 PM
Betting EC's you would have to play at least 4 or 5 thousand spins to prove you have any edge at all. So your offer of proof is invalid.

If I start off with $2000 betting $50 units and play until we have 40 units profit, that's $2000. Then if I give you 25% of the winnings, that's $500.

So you want $500 for your system. You can say that's narrow minded, or black and white, but I say it's calling a spade a spade.

Good luck to you and your pidgeon.

LOL, so who are you?
A typing advert for genuine winner  ....com

Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 09, 2013, 01:24:03 PM
Quote from: pins on March 07, 2013, 08:44:40 PM
how can you prove a system with past spins. beats me.

How can you prove a system at all then?

Why are you on this forum?

I use probability, what do you use?

Have you anything interesting to say at all?
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: ReDsQuaD on March 09, 2013, 01:30:25 PM
Pigeons (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q8lcPACNoI#ws)
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: pins on March 09, 2013, 07:08:18 PM
we all go to the casino and use past spins. as you say thats all we have got. but any system can lose. you do not cover all the numbers so you can lose every spin. no system can gurantee winning. why get so upset its only a game. some days you win somedays you lose. keep searching.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Dermo on March 09, 2013, 10:07:34 PM
Except my method never loses. It may get drawdowns but only small ones and only over a small few spins.
After 100-200 spins there is always profit to take home. I test live and with past spins.
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: bombus on March 10, 2013, 07:21:55 AM
@ Redsquad, that's two pidgeons mate.

Quote from: Dermo on March 09, 2013, 12:17:33 PM
LOL, so who are you?
A typing advert for genuine winner  ....com

Who am I? I'm the guy with the button that says, disintegrate.  :whistle:

Steve? When can I expect my first pay cheque?
Title: Re: Genuine offer
Post by: Steve on March 10, 2013, 07:48:23 PM
*passes cheque to bombus under the table*

Redsquad, the pigeon sound track is stuck in my head now. Thanks.