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Title: Casinos on net
Post by: ales on April 03, 2008, 09:42:25 AM
Hi  to everyone on the forum.

First of all I want to start with  selecting the right casino.

1) BET 365 and all philippines  video casinos- BAD  .Don't play there as they  have recorded videos , lasers for crupiers so that they can hit the ball on the sector they need, If you play from the site ( minimum 1 cent chip) you will be disconnected while in progression. If you want to play there , do it with small chips and as you win GO AWAY because they are able to put recorded videos and so  to  spin the number that they want.

2) Dublinbet casino.  OK It is a good casino , live where you can play( better is Jebet.com because we have minimum 0.50 eur maximum 20eur)  Be carefull when you see some dealers as DEMET or Arthur OR adam and Adam, they are very very good on playing on sectors which they want ( one day I have seen one of them training and hitting 18 times in row the orphanells).Has also good bonus option.

3) JEBET  - same as Dublinbet but better because you can make progression( maximum is 20 eur , and not 10 like in dublinbet)
4)casinowebcam.com, It is a ok casino
5) CASINO VITTORIOSA- trully live casino , but not so good because you can't make progressions( they block your numbers )So it is ok only for flat betting

6) For sportsbook ( SPORT BETTING) is ok BET365

7) RNG DON'T EVEN THINK TO PLAY IT , they will make you win something and then loose everything afte that.Try to win something then log off turn off you computer change IP and computer name and you will notice that you will continue to win. ;), BUT ANYWAY DON'T PLAY RNG it is like a slot machine.

Cheers, Ales
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Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: Wildcard on April 03, 2008, 06:10:11 PM
Hello ales, welcome to the crowd  :P

I can see you have plenty of insights about online roulette, however, i find it hard to grasp some concepts you talked about, would you please care to explain ?

First of all, concerning recorded videos... i actually don´t see the point of this, as i explained at this thread >>> nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1206354600 so why do you think they "do it"... as i think they would have much more to lose exactly because of allegedly cheating on their costumers.

Secondly , what do you mean when you refer to
Quotelasers for crupiers so that they can hit the ball on the sector they need
... This is the first time i read about lasers... seems science-fiction to me. How are lasers used in order to allow dealers to hit a specific sector ?  And why would they use lasers if they can switch the real video with a pre-recorded spin ?

And, lastly, you mentioned
Quotedealers as DEMET or Arthur OR adam and Adam, they are very very good on playing on sectors which they want ( one day I have seen one of them training and hitting 18 times in row the orphanells.
...

I don´t believe for one second that ANY dealer could chose and hit a particular sector at will... of course i could be wrong, but i seriously doubt it. Anyway, can you tell me more about that training event ? Was it private or is it made available for the public ? I also had never heard of croupiers training their aim before, so bear with me because this is a whole new world of notions i didn´t have before reading your thread ...

I always thought that dealers would practice spinning before they go pro on the casino floor, but not for their habilities with the wheel.

Hope to learn more from you because it has been a while since i didn´t read something that much revealing ( at least to me it is).

Ciao  :)

Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: Colin on April 03, 2008, 06:18:53 PM
Please can i have the URL for JETBET CASINO thanks Colin
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: addonai on April 03, 2008, 06:29:31 PM
Jebet.com

Regards
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: Iwonder on April 04, 2008, 05:48:48 AM
If certain croupiers can hit sectors at will, and we can place bets on Dublinbet after the ball has been spun, then there should be an opportunity here.  We could wait for the dealer to counter another player's strategy and target that sector.  Just a question, though, can the croupiers see where our bets are placed on Dublinbet?
Also, considering a lot of players play even chance or dozen systems, how does sector targetting help the casino?
I would have thought that the only players who can be beaten by sector targetting is those, like me, who play sectors.  But then, being able to place bets after the croupier has spun is in my advantage.

Just some thoughts
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on April 04, 2008, 07:05:20 AM
Hi Ales,
           thanks for your comments but to me they do not make sense....

1) BET 365 :- you say they use pre-recorded video. I find it hard to believe that a company the size of BET 365 (and it's regulated in the Uk) would risk doing something that illegal. Are you saying they just send a specific video to my PC so I lose? Because if it is recorded and sent to everyone somebody must be winning with some numbers. Besides how come you can "chat" with croupiers??

"5) CASINO VITTORIOSA- trully live casino , but not so good because you can't make progressions( they block your numbers )So it is ok only for flat betting."

They don't allow progressions & block your numbers?? Could you explain this a bit further please.....

The video feed there looks like it's from the back room of the casino, surely that would be easier to set up "pre-recorded video"


thanks for your time...


take it easy.... [smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: lucky_strike on April 04, 2008, 08:52:26 AM


Hi and thanks  for sharing with your experiences. They are valuable. Now i have a question and i quote.

QuoteBUT ANYWAY DON'T PLAY RNG it is like a slot machine.

You are not the first to say that there is a difference, so i reckoned that you would have a lot of followers that have the same opinion. I cant find any difference playing reel live spins or rng. Can you elaborate a little more about the difference between rng and actuals. Is it based upon that your win ratio is higher when playing reel events, opposite to when you play rng.

Cheers Lucky Strike
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: status on April 06, 2008, 11:20:11 PM
@ales - thank you for sharing your impressions about live casinos.
I don't think casinos from playtech (bet365, tropez, etc) because you see the ball spinning and is very hard for them to syncroness the video.
I have the same question as xman1970, what do you mean with "they block your numbers" ? I haven't played yet there but I intend to.
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on April 09, 2008, 11:05:20 AM
I signed up with Casino Vittoriosa but I yet to receive my "confirmation Email"  :-[

but not sure if my spam blocker has binned it  :-/

Anybody else signed up there & have any problems.....


Thanks to anybody who takes the time to reply......


Take it easy [smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: status on April 09, 2008, 11:18:32 AM
hello.
I have an account there and I haven't problems with confirmation email.
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on April 09, 2008, 11:30:12 AM
thanks status  :thumbsup:

like I said maybe my spam blocker deleted it  :'(

I will email them & try again.....

Could I ask which country you are from please.....

It probably doesn't make any difference  :-/


Many thanks again....


BTW, have you been winning there? Withdrawn any money?
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: status on April 09, 2008, 11:33:50 AM
I'm from Romania.
Maybe you should try again.
I haven't played for real yet but I intend to.
At the moment I'm extracting numbers from their wheel only ;)
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on April 09, 2008, 11:38:59 AM
Ok  :thumbsup:

Again many thanks Status, here's hoping it goes well for you.... ;)
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on April 10, 2008, 10:21:13 AM
Hi Status,
                 All sorted now, they have been having problems with their "confirmation email"  :o
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: status on April 10, 2008, 01:45:05 PM
hey.

eh, its just happen sometimes :P

if you'll start playing for real, keep posting how is going there

cya
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on April 10, 2008, 01:53:22 PM
Won't be for a while yet, but of course I will...



take it easy...[smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 17, 2008, 12:29:23 PM
I also signed up with Casino Vittorosia and cannot log on.  

Does anyone know--for sure--if they allow US players?  I read they did, but are any US people on that casino?

Sam
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: status on April 17, 2008, 11:43:28 PM
hey.

I'm from Europe, sorry.
seems like nobody's accepting US players. why? you are to dangerous ?  ;D
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: Malty on April 18, 2008, 01:03:35 PM
Hehe, many people didn't belive me when I said tha Bet365 is rigged....  ;D
Thank you Ales, you did a great job.

[smiley=dankk2.gif]

Malty
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on April 18, 2008, 01:14:57 PM
Hi Malty  :thumbsup:

Mighty big claim that, would you care to elaborate...... :-/


Many thanks when you do....


Take it easy....[smiley=beer.gif]
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 18, 2008, 02:20:31 PM
Status

I personally am not dangerous!  It's just our silly current administration that wants us to loose all our $$$ at the local Indian casino.  Or Vegas or Atlantic City.  Or a back-alley craps game.  Anyplace but on line.

As to the casino putting up numbers to beat a particular person--I think that is what Ales was saying, no?--here is how to test that.

Just for fun I wanted to test Suite332 against CasnioWebCam, where the feed originates.  I opened both casinos in two different windows.  What do you know?  Exactly the same spins hour after hour.

Any two of you could agree to log onto Bet365 at any time and test the cheating theory.  One of you would have to bet, naturally, or both.

Another thing is to look at the dealer.  Look at her jewelery, if any.  How does her hair hang today?  Switching to a bogus feed would surely show a change in hair or expression.  Sure, they all wear the same clothes every day.  

By the way, in the days I could play on Bet365 I won and they paid me.

Could have been luck.

Samster
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: status on April 18, 2008, 04:09:26 PM
hey guys.

well, sorry TwoCatSam but I still don't think bet365 (playtech) are cheating. at least not with video.
I'm looking at wheel and ball, are moving continuously without frames without nothing strange
IMO casinos always wins because people are stupid. they are narrow and are not pleased with a little profit.

cya :)
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 19, 2008, 12:41:39 PM
Status

I don't think they're cheating.  Someone named "ales" said he thought they were.

Sam

Cornpone, man, I even said I played them and won and they paid me!
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: theneophyte on April 27, 2008, 05:02:27 AM
sometimes the ball does some unusual jumping on the live feed used by bet 365, 32vegas etc. i have seen it go backwards and jump across from one side to the other, stop in a pocket then leap out again!!   :o

also, one time when they lost videa, first one dealer came up and then a different one????  :-/

this live feed is used by a lot of casinos, five that i use and more i think, so there must be a large number of people playing spread out over all the casinos which would incline me to think that at busy times the sessions are ok.

8-)

i played tonight using sectors and made a profit so must have been honest then!   :D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: TwoCatSam on April 27, 2008, 09:57:04 AM
the.........

I have seen such actions of the ball and made a screen recording to view them in slow motion.  I have seen only one truly questionable thing and the rest were the ball just doing it's thing.  

Sam
Title: Re: Casinos on net
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Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: ales on June 22, 2008, 07:42:05 AM
Hi people :)

I repeat don't play absolutely RNG ( or if you want to loose your money then play it)

The simply prof that it is fake is this: try to  cover all the numbers except one , you will notice in RNG mode 10000% that you will lose in max 10 spins, everytime you do that.( in live this doesn't happen never)

If you want to play with ok casinos there is DUBLINBET , JEBET , HELLENICLIVECASINOS, 1SPIN, 29 SPIN,   ... those are for my opinion good casinos , and I don't think that they cheat , and they pay usually in 0-2 days

p.s. If you want to play on bet365 I tell you some hints, as you see numbers 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9  play them for 3-4 spins, it wins in 95% of the  times, and try to record the last 10 numbers spun , search them on the wheel and cover the sectors ( also 20-24 numbers) and you will have multiple winnings. As you see that ball goes in a strange way it is because they are cheating ...I am 1000000%%%%  sure, because I have the proof of it ;) .

Cheers, ales
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: TwoCatSam on June 22, 2008, 12:10:32 PM
Ales

What is your proof?  Could we hear/see it?  If you know those numbers are going to come up to cheat some other bird, why aren't you there betting on them and being the bird that wins?

You remind me of the guy at the horse races who said, "Every horse I bet on loses."  I said, "Well, hell, you bet $2 on all but one and I'll bet $200 on him and we'll always win and get rich."  I nearly got decked for that one!

Sam
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: xman1970 on June 22, 2008, 11:39:59 PM
Another person stating that the bet365 wheel (the playtech wheel) is fixed..... :-\

I'm with 2Cats on this, some proof not just some accusations would help..... :-[


Many thanks in advance for the proof....


take it easy....
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: shaineicus on June 23, 2008, 07:23:44 AM
This old chesnut again eh?
so how hard can it be to prove that a live feed is cheating you??  every roulette forum i have been on is getting clogged up with these claims... if you feel that way then prove it. there are enough of you out there to say hey,, lets all party round ales place then all get on 365 together and record when one of us gets a different result to the rest? then we can all get our money back and be saviours to everyone who has been conned by these thiefs!  If not....  why are we talking about it?
again and again.. "RNG is rigged... they let you win and then take it all back". ??? 
remember victor posted the test where the "wizard of odds" is only betting red in fun mode and was obvious that it was letting him win... great stuff and we know that happens but heres a question...
corals online casinos are part of the gala group, operating one of the largest chains of betting shops, bingo houses and land casinos in the uk. they offer rng, so my question is why would they bother to rig something that produces a minimal proportion of their revenue and risk all the penalties involved? ???   i play here and win here and get paid out here but when i lose im sure it was my play and not some big conspiracy to rob me of my £100.     
the point is if you swim in the sewer then your gonna get sick!
you want to play at some of these small, dubious t&cs , lesser established "slot machine" casinos then be my guest but some operators DO offer a fair game and if you choose not to play at them then thats your choice but lets not waste any more space on this great site on an argument thats been had a million times before. Prove it or give it a rest..

sorry if its a rant but just my point of view.

cheers
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: geoff365 on June 23, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
It doesn't matter anymore. The net has enough live feeds in nearly every country. No dispute about these have been posted. 8)
Title: Re: Casinos on net
Post by: shaineicus on June 23, 2008, 01:05:40 PM
sorry pal, i dont understand?
what doesn't matter anymore? no dispute about who/what have been posted?