Proof Demo

[gizmotron]

Welcome! You have entered [Talking] at 3:21 pm
[Talking]: gizmotron has entered at 3:21 pm
[gizmotron] 3:25 pm: Red winner, +100
[gizmotron] 3:26 pm: bet black at 10
[gizmotron] 3:26 pm: 2 winner +110
[gizmotron] 3:28 pm: it's hard to keep up

I fell behind. I'm trying to enter spins in my chart, post here in chat, analyze the play before the next spin, and then place the next bets before it's too late.

The only way to do this is to have someone call out spins at a pace that fits all this. I had no problem doing this with students. My practice software produces fair RNG spins that are not targeting any players. If someone wanted to post spins, any spins, one at a time then they could post them on a chat window. That software can also detect tampering with a sequence using the MD5 hash to prove that the spins used in the test where actually never altered for the chat.

I'll show you how to do this if you want to be the spin person.

It's time for this to get done.

P.S. It would be far better to do this here in the forum and not on the chat. Here the results are published.

[gizmotron]

Here's an example:

This: 36,32,1,25,3,14,33,16,13,2,14,27,36,  thirteen spins

After they are loaded in my charting program the md5 hash for them is:

Spin 1 to 12 of the thirteen = yCE+C8OaTC75rjqt4jFQ5A==

Spin 1 to 13 of the thirteen = upKwVnH5mRzIKzi8GUHrTA==

So after a full session is done I would publish the same spin sequence and the hash should be identical. If the sequence is varied in any way then the hash will not match up. This is the latest technology to verify that casinos are not tampering with their RNG spins. They publish the hash for the next 5 to 8 spins before they are used by the casino. If the hash changes for those 5 to 8 spins then the casino changed the numbers after the bets were placed but before the spins finished. I thought it was such a good idea I added it to my teaching software.

50 Spins:
36,32,1,25,3,14,33,16,13,2,14,27,36,11,7,00,3,10,2,25,36,35,14,14,12,13,14,24,17,4,24,8,28,34,22,27,13,11,00,26,16,29,24,17,7,27,9,29,21,3,

Spin 1 to 50 of the 50 = QYazgkK7XfDS3ZzlBKk4Og==

All hash functions are also processed through a base64 encoder so that publishing them on the internet will not be corrupted by characters not handled by all browsers and all platforms.

[gizmotron]

Anyone can volunteer to be the dealer for this. It can be done over several days. Others can play too. All that is needed is someone to post spins. The thread will take care of itself.

[gizmotron]

OK, I'll start. Perhaps an example of playing will demonstrate how easy this is.

Here are the first 18 spins.

33,14,6,15,32,8,3,30,11,24,29,10,3,11,23,9,7,10,

Now I will make bets and let the software pick the next spins.

Next bet, Low, ( 1 to 18) at $10

Next spin = 33, I lost that one.

[gizmotron]

next bet = 20 on 1 to 12 and 20 on 13 to 24

14, winner, now I'm at +10

[gizmotron]

next bet 20 on #1 column and 20 on #3 column

next spin = 21, winner, now I'm at +30
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next bet = 10 on (1 to 18)

next spin = 12, winner, now I'm at +40


It's really that simple, anyone can play. We just need someone to call out the spins.

[ReDsQuaD]

Hi Gizmotron.

Thank you for sharing this information.

James.

[ReDsQuaD]

$40 + in a very short space of time. I can see the concept though, going up and down, but winning far more than you loose,always going up in profit. Is that correct?

James.

[gizmotron]

$40 + in a very short space of time. I can see the concept though, going up and down, but winning far more than you lose,always going up in profit. Is that correct?

James.

When it's working good, yes. You can reach your goal very rapidly when bet selections work with situations that remain consistent. So you combine situational awareness with things that tend to continue.

I was just demonstrating how a demo here might work. Some people here have wanted this for years. I already described what would be seen from several real demonstrations. They would have the same kind of results as real sessions from several visits to the casinos.

People would have huge disagreements on what it all actually meant. They would have beliefs of luck, failure, proves nothing, or demands. Many would require a full explanation for each bet. It's really kind of funny too. They would make demands that a working system must be given to them. That's because there is this much disclosed already on the internet. And everyone knows that the internet is free.

[Mike]

Bravo Gizmo!

Posting spins is going to take forever, there must be a more efficient way to do this. I'll give it some thought, but right now it's Friday evening and I'm going out for a beer or 3. 

[gizmotron]

Bravo Gizmo!

Posting spins is going to take forever, there must be a more efficient way to do this. I'll give it some thought, but right now it's Friday evening and I'm going out for a beer or 3. 

Me too, it's the weekend and I'm playing for real. It should take about 2 minutes per spin. That's with posting and everything. That's 30 spins per hour. So an hour here and an hour there and we can get 100 spin sessions in real easy. It does not have to be endless. Like I said, it's possible to validate a 100 spin sequence with the md5 hash function. This is all set up and ready to go as soon as someone acts as the dealer. Just an hour at a time is good enough.

[Mike]

Ok, I can post spins a little later this evening for an hour or so. I assume you want spins from a real wheel? I have a few thousand from Dublinbet.

Don't you think it would be quicker to do this in the chat room?

There's a SHA-256 hash generator at nolinks://nolinks.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator. I'll post the hash of 100 spins and then post spins one at a time, then you can check that I haven't been cheating you. 

[gizmotron]

Ok, I can post spins a little later this evening for an hour or so. I assume you want spins from a real wheel? I have a few thousand from Dublinbet.

Don't you think it would be quicker to do this in the chat room?

There's a SHA-256 hash generator at nolinks://nolinks.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator. I'll post the hash of 100 spins and then post spins one at a time, then you can check that I haven't been cheating you.  

Wow, you get it. No need to teach Mike. What time tonight? It's 6:32 pm GMT right now.

BTW, can you provide the first 18 spins in a comma delimited format with no empty spaces added?
Like this: 4,16,23,28,0,17,   etc...

It would be nice to do the hash function on a comma delimited list too. No line breaks or return characters either. Just spins and commas please.

[Mike]

Say 8:00 pm GMT?

BTW, I make it 5:39 GMT now and I live in the UK. Actually it's the start of British Summertime tonight so the clocks are going forward.

[gizmotron]

Here is a test:

00,11,8,1,27,12,15,1,22,00,24,13,26,36,17,2,6,12,5,7,23,24,5,23,19,32,7,32,21,11,4,35,13,3,7,10,33,21,20,23,7,00,20,19,33,31,10,10,4,22,

Hash: d2a6f85abf8c16999df4a495470c8f47936d0d70981f9f64cd3bbacee3883eb4

Cool, its in a coding that is internet friendly.

What do you get for a test of a hash for theses 50 spins?

[gizmotron]

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