The new guy sais hello and needs some help :)

hoper35 · April 22, 2009, 09:15:57 PM

Quote from: Shorty on April 22, 2009, 10:30:30 AM
First off if you want to become a winner at roulette you have to understand that no system can win long term, and why.

Wrong.

Shorty · April 22, 2009, 09:40:32 PM

Quote from: hoper35 on April 22, 2009, 09:15:57 PM
Wrong.

Do you have a winning system? Are you playing roulette professionally with your system? Are you or are you going to be a millionaire?

If you answered no to any of these questions, then you are the one that is wrong.

trylobit · April 23, 2009, 05:19:50 AM

Quote from: Shorty on April 22, 2009, 10:36:33 AM
He paid for the system, it's called Tera TNT. I believe quite a few people around the forum have access to it.

But if I recall correctly Jerek lost a lot (if not all) cause his system required quite a monster progression. I'm sure he will be around shortly to express his opinion as well.

Tera-TNT doesn't require monster progression. I'm not up to date, but I think some 'bobby' sold him some other system, and that one made him lose money...

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trylobit · April 23, 2009, 05:22:31 AM

Quote from: Shorty on April 22, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
Do you have a winning system? Are you playing roulette professionally with your system? Are you or are you going to be a millionaire?

If you answered no to any of these questions, then you are the one that is wrong.

I can answer for now just for first of this questions yes. And there is at least 3 winning systems in this forum.

Sealine · April 23, 2009, 06:28:36 AM

Hi again everyone

Guys, there has to be some genious out there who knows something that we dont. . Think about it, if that guy found the holy grail then he's keeping it to himself. .
He prolly doesn't even have a job or so. .

There just has to be a way of winning long term and about never losing or so.

Trylobit, would you mind telling me which systems these are? And tell a little about them?

Thank you

Sealine

trylobit · April 23, 2009, 06:36:26 AM

GUT
4 Selecta
Victor's Lw (strategy play)
RPro75's Mod of Diodoro's Ludomeccanica
Tera-TNT

But remember, what works for one person doesn't have to work for you. You need to find system that suits you.

Shorty · April 23, 2009, 07:53:31 AM

GUT and Tera TNT both are not consistent winners and I know that for a fact. I even won in excess of 1000 units in real money play with the GUT, but it doesn't beat the house edge.

Vic's Lw I consider to be very good, but that isn't a system, more like a strategy.

4 Selecta I haven't looked at before, because last topic seemed only to be argument after argument.

Rpro's new mod actually looks fun to play, but until it is programmed and tested over thousands of spins, nobody can name it a consistent winner.

The thing is with systems that require a progression is that they seem to be winners, only because they haven't hit the session from hell yet. And a lot of the time they hit back to back sessions.

xman1970 · April 23, 2009, 08:11:20 AM

Quote from: Shorty on April 23, 2009, 07:53:31 AM

The thing is with systems that require a progression is that they seem to be winners, only because they haven't hit the session from hell yet. And a lot of the time they hit back to back sessions.

This is a very valid point Shorty

A progression can hide (& for a long time) the fact that the bet selection isn't actually that great...... $:-\$

Lanky · April 23, 2009, 09:02:51 AM

QuoteVic's Lw I consider to be very good, but that isn't a system, more like a strategy.

This is a very valid point as well Shorty.

Bye the way I left a note in You other thread to check Your Pm about Ham.

Good OnYa mate.

Lanky

2nd12forlife · April 23, 2009, 09:31:51 AM

Quote from: Shorty on April 22, 2009, 09:40:32 PM
Do you have a winning system? Are you playing roulette professionally with your system? Are you or are you going to be a millionaire?

If you answered no to any of these questions, then you are the one that is wrong.

I also concur that you are WRONG. I consistantly win with my system, and no I am not a millionaire, but I win hundreds each time I play. I also look for new systems also. If you really think it cant be beaten I dont know why you are here.....

Shorty · April 23, 2009, 10:29:21 AM

It can be beaten, just not with a system. Show me your proof that your system works over thousands of spins and I will congratulate you. Also, why don't you take the 100k challenge from Stefano? Since your system is a consistent winner you shouldn't have any trouble, and be one hundred thousand dollars richer...

WannaWin · April 23, 2009, 10:38:15 AM

Humble opinion friends.

Those who can do, perform. Those who can not do not.

You can not say to someone who consistently wins on roulette you can not win.

Even if your system used is a loser, a person can be winner by mere luck. Even for years or lifetime!

That is, winning or losing depends on what the player and single player only experienced. This is Gambling. Some people are earning with systems labeled losers, and also it also mean loses for other people on systems that claim to be winners.

Wining and losing is per player. It is the reality.
WannaWin

2nd12forlife · April 23, 2009, 10:39:18 AM

I am actually not familiar with this challange you speak of, but if I learn more I would certainly give it a shot. If it involves roulette xtreme, I also have trouble customizing/programming that. If you could, send me a link to the challange, thanks.

2nd12forlife · April 23, 2009, 10:43:38 AM

Quote from: Shorty on April 23, 2009, 10:29:21 AM
It can be beaten, just not with a system. Show me your proof that your system works over thousands of spins and I will congratulate you. Also, why don't you take the 100k challenge from Stefano? Since your system is a consistent winner you shouldn't have any trouble, and be one hundred thousand dollars richer...

and also, I'm here because I enjoy talking about roulette and I enjoy learning, and also cus I like the arcade

(top 10 tetris scores oh yeah!). I am however very confused with why you seem offended that I win consistantly. I make money and thats good enough for me, I do not need your "congrads", I could care less what you think.

2nd12forlife · April 23, 2009, 10:45:26 AM

Quote from: WannaWin on April 23, 2009, 10:38:15 AM
Humble opinion friends.

Those who can do, perform. Those who can not do not.

You can not say to someone who consistently wins on roulette you can not win.

Even if your system used is a loser, a person can be winner by mere luck. Even for years or lifetime!

That is, winning or losing depends on what the player and single player only experienced. This is Gambling. Some people are earning with systems labeled losers, and also it also mean loses for other people on systems that claim to be winners.

Wining and losing is per player. It is the reality.
WannaWin

Good point, I play a system Ive created myself so this doesnt apply, but also someone could be using a "losing system" and just tweak it a little bit to put their own spin on it and they could do great with it, who knows.

2nd12forlife · April 23, 2009, 10:45:26 AM

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The new guy sais hello and needs some help :)

Lanky