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which progression would you recommend?

Started by HansHuckebein, May 02, 2009, 04:29:35 PM

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HansHuckebein

hi guys,

for results that sort of zickzack, which progression would you use? the results if've attached come from flat-betting one unit on the even chances.

thanks already for your oppinions.

:) :) :)

Allin

My Dear friend,

     No progression will make you money esp, when you are playing roulette.

     There are only 4 rules to win/keep yourself in the game.

         1. Flat bets.
         2. Shorter Playing sessions
         3. Exit point (You need set the Goal before you start session.    i.e -40 stop +60 stop).
         4. Withdraw money when you are up by X(define yourself) units. Don't keep bankroll bigger, because I am sure you will lose control when losing streak strikes.(This is the biggest problem in gambling).


    If you are not following anything above, you I am sure you don't know what you are doing.

    Please brother I have almost tesed all Progressions with few thousands of spins, not even 1 system gave positive result. :-\

Regards

lucky_strike

Negative expectation and you talk about flat betting.

How?

I am all ears!

LS

HansHuckebein

hi lucky,
was your question for allin or for me?

Shorty

Quote from: Allin on May 03, 2009, 08:03:44 AM
My Dear friend,

     No progression will make you money esp, when you are playing roulette.

     There are only 4 rules to win/keep yourself in the game.

        1. Flat bets.
         2. Shorter Playing sessions
         3. Exit point (You need set the Goal before you start session.    I.e -40 stop +60 stop).
         4. Withdraw money when you are up by X(define yourself) units. Don't keep bankroll bigger, because I am sure you will lose control when losing streak strikes.(This is the biggest problem in gambling).


    If you are not following anything above, you I am sure you don't know what you are doing.

    Please brother I have almost tesed all Progressions with few thousands of spins, not even 1 system gave positive result. :-\

Regards


This guy knows what he is talking about.

HansHuckebein

allin,

I agree with you about your statements nr. 2-4. still I think that aprogression could improve the results if you mange to find a bet selection that keeps the downswings within a certain range.

lucky_strike

QuoteNegative expectation and you talk about flat betting.

How?

I am all ears!

LS

Well I am just polite and say if they don't have an positive expectation, an edge, then it is a big lie.

Roulette will only give you a negative expectation.

Quotehi lucky,
was your question for allin or for me?

So what is what??

LS

HansHuckebein

lucky, does that mean that you also think we should forget about using progressions? as english is not my mother tongue I'm not quite sure wether I' ve really understood what you're after.

lucky_strike

Hi HansHuckebein.

Let me tell you that no one can turnaround numbers and create a bet selection that will produce a positive expectation so you can flat betting with an edge.
I guess I trying to say and trying to do so with a polite manner, that if you don't have a bias or a dominant ball drop and can make a vb read  with good conditions, then you will never find an positive edge so you can flat betting.

Cheers LS

Shorty


lucky_strike

QuoteFluctuation sucks.

Yes there is no escape from it.

LS

hoper35

Quote from: Lucky Strike on May 03, 2009, 11:56:18 AM
Hi HansHuckebein.

Let me tell you that no one can turnaround numbers and create a bet selection that will produce a positive expectation so you can flat betting with an edge.
I guess I trying to say and trying to do so with a polite manner, that if you don't have a bias or a dominant ball drop and can make a vb read  with good conditions, then you will never find an positive edge so you can flat betting.

Cheers LS

There could be ESP or numerology :)

Nathan Detroit

# 1  out of the question.

# 2 - # 4 agreed  but with personal preferences in mind.


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

lucky_strike

Quote from: hoper35 on May 03, 2009, 01:32:24 PM
There could be ESP or numerology :)

I don't want to offend you so i just say this polite that it is a lie.

LS

WannaWin

Quote from: HansHuckebein on May 02, 2009, 04:29:35 PM
hi guys,

for results that sort of zickzack, which progression would you use? the results if've attached come from flat-betting one unit on the even chances.

thanks already for your oppinions.

:) :) :)

I am no friend of the progressions, but here you will like some advice. I recommend you use the progression of oscar or pluscup, slow progressive game. But with the proviso that after two consecutive losses make the reduction to minimum bet until win. Then when the win comes increase to the number high above.

This idea has been for a long time and nobody makes it, but it is the better progressive, only +1 at a time and lose less on 3 or many losses so the less wins to get back from the inevitable long losing chains.

I hope this makes you better results Mr. HansHuckebein and do not forget to put the graphics so that we can compare the difference please. If it works or if it does not operate = we learn.

Greetings,
WannaWin

WannaWin

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