VLS Roulette Forum

I am on vacations, so result = Too much time, and as it seems to be that one of locals here has wireless conection :)

I made a system which I was testing on several hamburg sessions and never ended down.. I dont know, is it luck or formula realy does work.. So I want to ask you that you test that while I will do some more testings

Here is a result on one of my tests:
nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/pcwx5v3kwzd.html (nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/pcwx5v3kwzd.html)

So to the system:
I was inspired with system that Addonai posted on download section (called roulettesystem winner), If you want you can check it but you dont need to, because I made smal changes and I will tell you how you play.

First you will need Excel file (formula included) that I created and optimized it for mobile, download it here: nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/pf4rr253tme.html (nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/pf4rr253tme.html)
someone can also put it on vls download section :)

You have to input numbers from A to D (A - newest number,B-previous, and so on) and you will get F, if F is larger than 36 you will get number in F>36...
you round up that number and play it until it hits(no progression), If number is X,5  you play split until a hit and if number is negative (in F>36) you should count backwards from 0-36-35 (Example: F>36 = -3, you should play number 34)

PS.: Instead of 0 always input 1, that formula doesnt crash :)

That is all I think

Please do some testings and inform us, with good or bad results :)

Cya, keep winning
Max

Boo

So if my F>36 was 1.5844 I would play the number 2 on the felt?

Sam

yes

Boo

If number is X,5...........what is x?

Sam

x is any numer let say 6.5, in this case x is 6,if you cant round it up or down you play split :)

Boo

Thanks.  I will input numbers and study this.  I'll have many more questions later.

Sam

o.k

i hope it will work as good as in my sessions
I was making 300 - 500 spins long sessions

I am going on the beach now so I will be on later

cya  ;)

Boo_Ray

Have fun on the beach!  Answer in your own good time.  Question:  Here are the first 3 results on your chart.........

25.5----False<------Bet #26?
16.5----False<------Bet #17?
97,785--1,653<---------Is this a split?  What numbers?  Why?

Sam

hi Boo, thanx for sharing your system (even if you're in holiday).
I guess that round up 7,264 means bet 7. Is it right?
And I think the system is not a continuos game. Isn't it?
Thanks again.
Have a nice day.
Ice

Quote from: TwoCatSam on July 27, 2008, 09:36:27 AM
Boo_Ray

Have fun on the beach!  Answer in your own good time.  Question:  Here are the first 3 results on your chart.........

25.5----False<------Bet #26?
16.5----False<------Bet #17?
97,785--1,653<---------Is this a split?  What numbers?  Why?

Sam

25.5 here you bet split on 25,26
16.5 here you bet split on 16,17
because 97,7 is higher than 36 you play 1,653 so you play number 2

@iceberg
this is continous game
you calculate number then after a hit you make new calculation :)

I think weak point of that system is that number can sleep for a long time and it can hit nearby numbers, so we should tweak it to make it more practical I think.. But from my testings system recovered with flat bets, so that is why I posted it here that you also test it

Hi Boo,
I meant you charge only 4 numbers spun (A,B,C,D) and then start to bet 1 number without charging every (4) new numbers that comes out while you're playing.
Is OK?
Thanks

yes o.k you only change number when you have a hit

I made example of one session using hamburg spins, still too good results to be true..
nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/cvkkpev6gnbce.html (nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/cvkkpev6gnbce.html)

here is betting history, I used (5) chips so I simulated bankrol of 100 and if there would be a split bet like 9-10 i would put (2.5) chips on each number

Boo

I think I'm getting it and am ready to start testing a little.  But, you said:

PS.: Instead of 0 always input 1, that formula doesnt crash

Does this mean that if the Zero was spun, I input 1 instead of inputing zero?

Sam

iceberger

I understand what you're saying.  No disrespect to Boo, but I agree with you.  Could be played either way, however.  One way would not affect (or effect) the other.

Sam

tcs, yes you input 1 istead of 0, always
and fell free to make other versions with formula :)
I putted this up for testing :)

Boo

Three more questions:

1.  What does "FALSE" in column G mean?
2.  Do you round up even if the number is like 2.14?  Would you round up to 3 and never down to 2?
3.  Even though the number is greater than 36, I still get a negative number in the 14th spin, 58,333 gives -1.79.  Now, do you round that up to 2 and bet the 2 or do you round it up to 2 and count from 36 backward and get 35 and bet that?

Sorry, but you seem to be saying both things.

Sam

False doesnt mean anything, other function which is over 36  gets IF value: false
you round it to closer number 2.14 you round to 2, if number would be 2.5 you would play split, and if would be 2.6 you would round it to 3.
if you get negative number like -1.79 round it up to 2 and count from 36 backward and bet 35

sorry for my english, that is why I am not clear enough :)

Boo_Ray

OK, I'm up to speed!  You understand I don't want to do tests on this the wrong way.

All I need to concern myself with is this:  1) I put in the numbers correctly, and 2) I bet according to the value in column G of your formula sheet.

This will be easy to test on my spins.

What is your native tongue?  Italian?

I will post!

Samster

Boo

If this comes through, check me out.  The number I think I'm supposed to bet is to the right and win/loss to the right of that.

Sam

Well, I must be doing it wrong as I lost 110 units on this fifty-spin trot.

Maybe I must be doing it wrong too, but I've tried for 36 spins and lost 200 units at dublinbet (fortunately play mode).
Cheers

Sam you only calculate once, then wait for a hit - wait for win and after that you calculate new number.
As I said system might not be working but I am having very good results with hamburg spins in RX, some number can sleep for more than 36 spins but some hit in les then 10 or even 5 spins and recoveres...

@iceber
please dont use system for real play until it is fully tested, some systems turn out to be bad.. Maybe it is just my luck here that makes it work :)  So, alot more testing will be needed befor putting it into real play

nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/qffzxxhm6dfyk.html (nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/qffzxxhm6dfyk.html)
here is short demo which shows how I think :)

Boo, unbelievable.
I had not understood nothing!
I was playing only when column G display some value (not FALSE).
I think you have reached something here.
RouletteXtreme is not so easy to win.
I'll test along.
Let's go on.
(PS. don't worry, I played at dublinbet a FUN MODE)

Well It is good now, if you understeand :)
Do some tests and will talk to you later :)

Boo_Ray

Actually, I only wanted to know if my numbers were correct with respect to the four I put in.  Win/lose was not of utmost importance.  If I don't do it right, all is lost from the get-go.

Boo, the demo won't play on my computer.

Sam

I may be out of line here, but I'm going to state the rules as I understand them.  Will everyone/anyone/Boo look at this and see if I'm right.

1.  Put in four numbers with A being the last to come and D the fourth back.
2.  In the yellow E column, if the number is 36 or smaller we round up or down and that is our bet.
3.  In the green F>36 column, we may or may not get a number.  We may get "FALSE".  False means we have a number in E we can bet on.
4.  If the green F>36 column is a positive number, we round up or down and that number is our bet.
5.  If the green F>36 column is a negative number, we round up or down and then we count backward from 36 to get our actual bet.
     Example:  If, in the green F> 36 column, we get -4.6, we round up to 5 and count backward with 36 being the 1. 36 is 1, 35 is 2 34 is 3 33 is 4 and 32 is 5.  Our bet would be on the number 32.
6.  We bet a split, using the same rules as above, if the number in Green F>36 is #.5.  Example:  34.5 is numbers 34, 35.  1.5 is numbers 1,2.

If I'm right on all six counts, please say so.  If I'm wrong on just one or two numbers, explain my error.

Sam

Hi Sam, it seems to me that is all OK.
Why can't you see boo's video?
It's a must see.
Let me know if can I help.
Ice

I think you must have xvid codec

sam you are right on most of them but example is wrong, you would just bet 5 not 32, you would bet 32 if number would be -4.6

For splits it can be in E colum also

Iceberg

Why I can't see the video, I don't know.

Boo

I will look again.

Sam

Hi Boo

What I would like to know, just to put my curiosity at ease, is where did you come up with your formula ? What significance does it have ?

((2nd number + 3rd number) X 1st number) / 4th number



Thanks for the info

Buffster ( VIP GG )

Boo_Ray

I made a mistake and left out the - sign.  I have changed my post to reflect this.

OK, I'm up to speed.

Thanks a heap. 

Sam

Quote from: Buffster on July 28, 2008, 05:03:20 PM
Hi Boo

What I would like to know, just to put my curiosity at ease, is where did you come up with your formula ? What significance does it have ?

((2nd number + 3rd number) X 1st number) / 4th number



Thanks for the info

Buffster ( VIP GG )

Hi Buffster,
There is an ebook in the download section (RSW) - Roulette system winner - that explains it.

Cheers,
JLP.-

Yes formula is from roulette system winner, betting is diferent

Thanks JLP

Found it

Buffster

Boo,
I made some long test with roulettextreme (with hamburg spins) and the system seems to work in the long term.
I guess the problem could be really the long term.
How can you play in real casino for 500/600 spins (sometimes the bankroll needs so much to recover)
Ice  

Yes I was asking myself the same question, problem is if you run into a sleeper for around 200 spins, i think we should modify it
for a more playable version

yes, but only you can do that  ;)
I'll test if you need...
In Italy they say "It's a hard dirty work but someone must do it!"  :D

Now I tested system where betting dual street instead of single number..
Results were great, I will also test system with playing 4 neighbors

I was betting 5 chips per dual street, If i had to bet zero I played 1chip on 34 35 36 0 1 2 3 (7chips), no progression, only flat betts

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fimg503.imageshack.us%2Fimg503%2F4725%2Fbrgd8.th.jpg&hash=a2c03b4f55a555adfa4a7a0403e9a3087d4190cd) (nolinks://img503.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brgd8.jpg)

neighbors system doesnt work :)

OK Boo, I'm up to speed on all but one thing.........

Say you input four numbers and start betting.  Do you just bet on that lonely number each time until it hits?  Or for how long?  Do you ever input new numbers while betting that first one?

Sam

you input new numbers after a hit

Well, I finally got to see the video.  I uploaded it to Motion Box and watched it there.

Boo_Ray

I will test this a little on live spins.

Sam

Edit:  I got a F>36 number of 0.363.  What number would I bet on, zero or 36?

zero, you play 36 if number is 36 or -1

OK, I've got the concept down and am ready to play.  Here are some numbers.

34
4
14
23
29
7 <------------oldest is always last.

I put in 34...4...14...23.... with 34 being A.....
Suppose Joe had sat down before me and and had put in 4..14..23..29
And Bill had down even earlier and had put in 14...23...29...7
Each of us is using a different "newest number".

All three of us have been faithful to the rules, so what would be the difference if I put in all the numbers (as I did on my trial) and played a multiple game with many bets?  My third bet could not affect my second and my second could not affect my first.  They would all be on different numbers.

I can't see sitting for 20 spins at a real wheel waiting for a number to pop, but I can see putting them in--loading up if you will--and betting ten or fifteen numbers.

Thanks for this program.  I'm seeing some good stuff with it on my real spins.

Are you still on the beach??

Sam

Hi twocat
I was also thinking about gathering more numbers, It would me more practical, that is why I tested double streets. I will do test with gathering 10 numbers and then betting, but I dont know what would be the best way to do after a win, bet for 10 more wins or maybe removing number that got hit... Need some testings :)

btw I just got home so I am not at the beach anymore :)

Boo_Ray

I am thinking of input number until the first number hits and just delete it.  This would be so easy to do on Wild Jack as they have the "rebet" and "remove bet" features. 

I may just try this live and make a little movie myself.

Sam

good idea
i am getting best results with swiching numbers after a hit, so it is worth a test

Boo_Ray and all.........

I am attaching my worksheet.  I have no idea what happened to the first 20 numbers as I put them in.  Scroll down.

I am using the same three numbers that appeared before with the one new number that just came.

These results are promising.  I have not had time to study the results but it shakes out like this:

For every out, which means no hit in 35 spins, you need to that hit in less than 18 to cover that loss.  You can see this happened frequently.

More later.

Sam

I dont know if I know how you played, but looks good

when you played 0 when result was -0,92  you should play 36, well that is how I play/test

Boo

Yes, I should have played 36.  I have made a chart of the negative numbers and their bets.

Sam

dear boo/sam

tried to download excel file .. but it is coming as junk .. optimised for mobile ? thats why ?

where do i get the file ?

anand

anand maybe you dont have new office which support xlsx, with xlsx file is alot smaller and also I optimized it for mobile screens so you can upload it on your smartphone and play in live casinos

If you dont have new office try downloading this
nolinks://nolinks.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=EN (nolinks://nolinks.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=EN)

hi boo,

tried it. it doesnt work. it says "excel viewer cannot open file of this type"

i have office 2003. even excel cant open it. may i request you to give link for normal excel file (not optimised for mobile .xls) ?

andy

roulettesystemwinner_optimized97-2003.xls
nolinks://nolinks.zshare.net/download/16296394a8897660/ (nolinks://nolinks.zshare.net/download/16296394a8897660/)

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=72 (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/downloads/?sa=view;id=72)

I'm a little confused!
How come the initial formula from the system is not being used? Just curious. what about adding 1 to the "d" number like it says?
I'm not quite sure when you still get a number like 1239...say these are the numbers:
29..a
34..b
36..c
3..d
This is the formula in the book.
29x(34+36)
-----------
3+1
So my number F=507
If you're skipping the 2nd step in the book wich is F-(dxd)/(bxc)
What would be my number?  Do I divide by 36? or use the book formula above?
Thanks!
CD

C-dog

Column G ( FALSE ) should now read 7.1214

If you don't get your cursor out of D2 you will not get the answer until you do. So move your cursor into the next box ( A3 )


Buffster

Andy

Go download this one.  It is the same thing, but no optimized for cell phones or whatever.  It is the full version and it works on my computer with Vista Home Premium.

Sam

today I was playing live on airball, I had negative results actualy almost even but I didnt want to continue because it went up and down all along so I decided to test it more :)

btw I played like sam, getting number along and deleting it when hit :)

Here's a copy of the file with continuous entry. You might find it useful. Just start entering your numbers in I2 as soon as you're ready to start tracking.

Instead of waiting for the last number hit to start entering, you start with the first number and continue downward in column I.

nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/ddf6kgmdw4.html (nolinks://nolinks.savefiles.net/d/ddf6kgmdw4.html)

Buffster

hi guys

cant seem to be able to download the save file from the links available
There seems to be a Error : security reason #2. Wondering why :(

cheers
Hammy

buffster,
that didn't answer my question. I'm doing this manually at the casino. how do you figure it?  So what's the answer?
thanks.
cd

C-dog

QuoteHow come the initial formula from the system is not being used? Just curious. what about adding 1 to the "d" number like it says?
I'm not quite sure when you still get a number like 1239...say these are the numbers:
29..a
34..b
36..c
3..d
This is the formula in the book.
29x(34+36)
-----------
3+1
So my number F=507
If you're skipping the 2nd step in the book wich is F-(dxd)/(bxc)

I don't understand...if you're using the excel file, then the formulas are both being used. 1st part of the formula is in Column E and the 2nd part is in Column G

Also  F-(dxd)/(bxc) should be  F-(dxd)/(b+c)

Please clarify.


Buffster

Buff,
>1st part of the formula is in Column E and the 2nd part is in Column G<

I know that. (My mistake about the + and X.) But it's not the formula in the book.
29x(34+36)
-----------
3+1
you're using  a(b+c)
                  ------       what happened to adding one to d?
                     d
Also, I don't care about the excel file. I'm in the casino. I can't run a spread sheet while I'm in there.lol
I'm talking about doing everything manually. Like paper and pencil. What happens in the second formula after calculations(I'm talking manually doing it..forget about the excel file)when the number is still greater than 36? Like say it's 82 or 175? I've had that happen.
cd
cd

This is the formula in excel

(A2*(B2+C2))/(D2+1)

As for if you're doing this by hand in the casino .... WOW I hope you're GOOD at math and REALLY fast.

If you're not using a calculator ... not a good system to use live.

There are only 3 possible answers per calculation.

If your calculation is less than 36 you only need the first formula

If your calculation is greater than 36 then use the second formula. If the answer is positive stop there.

If the answer is negative, subtract that number from 36.



Hope this helps


Buffster

Concerning the original Excel sheet which Boo_Ray gave us, it makes not a whit's difference which order you put in the numbers.  When the calculation is done, the answer is always the same. 

So, while the wheel is spinning and I'm not busy, I put in the three oldest numbers and wait for the number to come and put it in A and go.  Very easy. 

Sam

 TCS

Just to make things clear ....

You do have to enter them in ORDER A B C D

You can however enter the B number before the D number  or the D number before the A number .... but they must be in the right order A B C D because the answer is most definitely not the SAME.

Buffster 

Buffster

I appreciate what you are saying.  Thanks.

Now, here's what I am saying.  Putting in B correctly, C correctly and D correctly and then putting in A correctly does not affect the final number.

I am aware B must be the second newest and C the third and D the furtherest back.  A is always the number that came.

Cheers.....

Samster

sam do you still have positive results?

Boo

I was having positive results until the thing with Wild Jack.

I don't want to say anymore until I give them a chance to respond.

The system seems to be fabulous.  I have won $300 playing .50 bets.

Sam

Quote from: TwoCatSam on August 01, 2008, 02:08:48 PM
until the thing with Wild Jack.

what happened?

OK, I am not assigning blame..........

When I go to bet, the counter starts at 28 seconds.  It must remove the lost wagers before you can place new ones.  Yesterday it went down to 5 seconds on the scroll bar before it removed the old bets.  So I had four seconds to bet.

I have screen shots and film.

Sam

Sam,
so how many numbers are you playing?
cd

Anywhere from 1 up to 10 or 12.  Depends on where I am in the trot.

sam, boo

played with 673 spins (from the 2 year old data i had.. uploaded)

posting results

stopping after 35 spins and accepting the loss. made one mistake. played 26 instead of 27 at one point..

played single number (not new eyes. cant find the excel sheet for monitoring the new eyes method)

(nolinks://G:%5CRoulette%5Cboo%202.bmp)

can somebody pls teach me how to embed the picture in the post itself ???

Andy,

I can teach you by using ImageShack.  Are you familiar with them?  ImageShack.com

Sam

went to imageshack.. no clue what to do once i am there.. boo's software ? where ?
have his excel sheet for straight up betting. quite good.

Andy

I guess I should have said the Excel spread sheet; the one with the yellow and green columns.

I will post a tutorial on how to use ImageShack.

Sam

sam,

excel sheet i have.. yes..

waiting for your tutorial..

in the "new eyes" method you would basically calcuate after every spin right
so one would need to copy paste what arrived in A,B,C in the prvious spin onto the B,C,D of the next spin ? and then the new spin would be A ? is that how we will do it.. ?

andy

 Hi to everyone, and specially Anand ( late welcome by the way ;) )

Excuse me for the "off-topic" but there´s a simple way to integrate any image that you have on your PC to the post itself.

If you don´t believe me ... lol ... here´s the deal :

1 - Write a wonderful post ( that´s the easy part )

2 - UNDER the "frame" where you write it, you see the " Attach:___________________ [Search] "  option, so click on [Search] and find the image (or images) you want displayed at the forum on your PC   

3 - OVER the same "frame", you will see a drop-down menu, where you read " Link Inline Image  "... click on it and chose (for example) INLINE FULLSIZE ATTACHMENT ... this will add a tag named  >>>>   (attach img=#)    >>>> to your text inside the frame ... the # is the number you will give your image(s) .... if you upload only one, then the tag should read  (attach img=1)   ( where the "1" was edited by you, removing the # )

4 - Place that tag on the place where you want the picture(s) to show up

5 - POST the post ! LOL ... I don´t think you can preview it, but try it anyway before posting.

If I didn´t make a mistake and YOU don´t make a mistake, this is the finest possible way to post your images inside the posts.

I invite everyone to do it as need be, so we can all "profit" from this.

Good Luck to you all.  :)


PS- Edited because the forum assumed code as it was for real... hope to have it fixed now

Anand

I don't "copy and paste";  I just enter the numbers on the keyboard.

Sam

Just testing the TCS instructions

Below here

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Above here

Worked perfect :D :D

Thanks, ebrand!

Test of that copy and paste thingy...[attachimg=1]


Wildcard......

You just pretty darn smart!!  No more ImageShack!! 

Sam

By the way, that was a hundred dollar chip under that puck on 21.  (Hak, Kaff, Mumble, Grumble.)

Trying an Excel sheet.............

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I reckon that's pretty good right there!

Thanks Wildcard.

By the way, that's Boo_Ray's system in action!  Oh, go ahead and look at it.  It's free!

TCS, my friend, i´m delighted i could help but all credit should go to Victor, as he tutored the method to me in order to post the " Holy Grail - Jesus " thread´s picture.

Whish you all the best.  8)

I was wondering...could this formula be put into a palm pilot? Or can a palm pilot take excel files?
cd

Quote from: clothdog on August 04, 2008, 06:57:55 PM
I was wondering...could this formula be put into a palm pilot? Or can a palm pilot take excel files?
cd

hm, I know that every mobile windows suport excel, I dont know for Palm OS

lolol, I just had to try this image thing as well....... That is the car I'm building ...but no that is not me that is my cheap labour......my wife's cousin, lolol.

Cheers
Jakkalsdraai[attachimg=#]

Shite! hahahahaha leave it to me to do it wrong

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so Boo...how would I get that into the Palm tx? Or what is the formula?
thanks.
cd

yo know the formula it is excel file :)
((2nd number + 3rd number) X 1st number) / 4th number

btw I dont know anything about palm :)

Quote((2nd number + 3rd number) X 1st number) / 4th number

((2nd number + 3rd number) X 1st number) / 4th number +1

TTT  ;)