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Hey wondering if any of u tryed this yet i dont seem to be able to change settings for dozens rows ect its currently set to 15 for dozens and rows red and blacks 11 and high lows 9 and odd evens 9 you can change spin interval but there is no button to change the other intervals any ideas great softare btw to the creater thanks garry

**Latest binary version: nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/69682800/NWR.exe.html. ** --Nov 14
**Latest Source Code : nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/68117480/NeverWinterRoulette.rar.html** Date of submission Nov 7.

Hi im the author of this program.
Problems occurs when you check the AutoSpin checkbox and not use the hotkey to start autospin. I have only ever really used the hotkey so I missed looked the autospin checkbox. It has been fixed now. Download latest update of NWR.


Heres a quick explanation of NWR buttons etc
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cheers dude that helped alot, great software testing on free play atm looking to make £50 a day and hit my targets so far ith 0.25 bets using martingale progression on the evens bets and a 1,2,3,4,6,9,13,20,30,45,67 progression on the 2/1 bets what progresion does your autobet use? and do you ever plan to release this on as freeware or are you going to sell, also just as a thought could you look at adding rows into this say to trigger at somthing high like 30 and use a flat bet for 4 spins then cut losses if it doesnt come in?  [smiley=dankk2.gif] garry

Hi Tiago,
Was curious about this so I downloaded it but I don't understand it. Wanted to try it in fun mode. When I click on Configure automatically 'Auto' it says Bet 365 window has not been found. ? It's the same if I go into real mode with it.

Maybe a tutorial video can help better to understand.
Thanks

Yeh... there are still a few advice messeges I must add to this program to make it more user friendly.
The reason why the message is coming up is because NWR is searching for the 'european roulette' window of bet365 casino. So if u have told NWR that u're using bet365 casino (by seleceting 365 from the 'choose the casino' drop down menu ), you will also have to make sure u're running "EUROPEAN ROULETTE". That is, the european roulette window is opened. Then you should have no problems. Another thing... if you move the roulette window you will have to find the coordinates again with the 'auto' button.
*As a side note, just thought of something after reading ur post bobco. I will remove the 'auto' button, and will have NWR find the window coordinates before every spin, so NWR will just "know" where the window is without the user having to configure it. Dunno why I haven't thought of that b4. lol. If anyone has any ideas on how I can make NWR more user friendly or possibly a convinent new feature don't hesitate. Let me know . Cheers
-Tiago2

Quotecheers dude that helped alot, great software testing on free play atm looking to make £50 a day and hit my targets so far ith 0.25 bets using martingale progression on the evens bets and a 1,2,3,4,6,9,13,20,30,45,67 progression on the 2/1 bets what progresion does your autobet use? and do you ever plan to release this on as freeware or are you going to sell, also just as a thought could you look at adding rows into this say to trigger at somthing high like 30 and use a flat bet for 4 spins then cut losses if it doesnt come in?  [smiley=dankk2.gif] garry

I not planning to sell my software. I'll ask ask ppl to contribute if they want too, but it wont be mandatory. I'll be realesing the autbet feature soon. Only reason im, atm, just giving it in the source code to programmers is cause there are miner kinks i need to iron out. Programmers may be able to fix them themselfs, or at least understand wat the kinks are.
The progression I use, for dozens and rows are 1,2,3,4,6,9,13, and for red/black etc are 1,2,4,8,16. And if it doesn't win it will stop. The user will have to manually start autobet up again if they so choose to.
Progressions is currently defined in code, a user can't change it yet. I am planning on making it possible for a user to define the progression they want to use. Maybe once i incorporate that, i'll release it to the public.
I did have rows before, but took them out. I wasn't  really using it. Its an easy feature to add thou. I'll get it up and running again in a future update.

Hi all, just wanted to say that im having some good results using his program on real play and tbh my arse is twitching now as im expecting a big loss soon.  The casino is playing far to easy, is this normal Tiago2 ?

Cheers :)

Lol, im glad for u. Im not the owner of the casinos but sooner or later there is always seems to be ONE 'freak show' run when a Donzen, Row etc does not land 20/30 times and completely wipes out your bankroll. My advice to you, don't get GREEDY. Bet smart. Cash out some of ur winnings, if u havent done already. Make a daily amount you want to achieve and once u have acheived it, don't bet anymore for the day. Rather go out, get drunk n enjoy life  ;D. Set yourself an amount you're willing to lose for the day, if its an unlucky day and u lose it, don't try to get ur money back. Wait till the next day or week rolls around.
I have made between £50 and £90 starting with £5, using £0.25 units, in about 2 hours. Not a bad job if u ask me :P. Even after that I got tired of sitting in front of the computer and having to manually bet. Thats when I made the autobet feature, which will soon be made public. Yes I am lazy. lol
PS. Btw, once u make your millions don't forget about me. Toss a few bucks my way  ;D lol

lol ive seen 22/23 quite regular since ive been playing not as bad on free play testing tho, even had as high as a 31 earlier but if you cut off on 13 like your auto bet can always make it back just takes longer.

That sounds about right Tiago2 BUT i had a freak dozen that went up to 32 and wiped me out (ish) but worked it all back and logged out the dam casino, ill start again tomorrow as a fresh :P

But its nice winning far more than losing  [smiley=lolk.gif]

P.S im want to earn £50 a day and ive achived it 3/3 days so far :)

Hi tiago,

I always play the european roulette. It still says Bet365 windows not found? I don't know what is wrong? I have windows vista but that shouldn't effec it?
I will try to play with the buttons if there's no other solution?
Thanks

Latest Binary: nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/70476909/NWR.zip.html -Nov 18.
Latest Source Code:  nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/70477457/NWRSC.zip.html -Nov 18
Changes in this release:
NWR will automatically know where the casino's window coordinates are. Thou the 'Auto' button in Click coordinates is there. Its not really need anymore.
Another change,the  Frequency tab, which shoes frequencies of 'freak show' runs nicely in graphs now work properly for dozens only.
NWR saves all numbers collected in a freq.dat file. Used to calculate frequencies. Every startup NWR will overwrite the old one with an empty new one.
Bobco, i've made a video of me loading up NWR and playing it with Bet365. I have vista aswell, so its not a OS thing. Im using the latest version of NWR. Download above.
Video link >nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/70480941/NWRVideo.rar.html

I've got a website for NeverWinterRoulette. No more downloading from rapidshare. The website is on my signature. >>> nolinkss://sourceforge.net/projects/neverwinterroul/ <<< all latest releases will now be upload there.

Thanks for the tutorial video tiago. But I still don't get it to work. 'Bet 365 window not found'.  I noticed I didn't got the 'Eye' on the roulette window up. Don't know why. Maybe that is important? The other window came up which is called Spin ended meter.
Hope you can give me some clue Tiago.
Thanks so much.

Is it just bet365, NWR supports Golden Palace casino aswell. Do you get the same error using that?
Possible reasons why it may not be working for u... umm
Are you using the latest release of NWR?
Look at the below picture, see the windows title boxed around in red.

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Does the text say ''European Roulette - bet365casino'' exactly?.
Im not sure what the problem is. If you can't get it to work, try making a video using nolinks://nolinks.techsmith.com/camtasia.asp?CMP=KgoogleCStmhome. They have a 30 day trial. And i'll see what I can do.

Hi tiago,
Almost exactly it looks like that, except for the language. I have it in my own language - swedish. Could that be the problem? I can download the english version.
I haven't tried Golden Palace.
Yes, I downloaded the latest version of NWR.

Hi tiago,
The language seemed to be the problem. I downloaded the Golden Palace in fun version English and now it works good.  :)
Now I will just try to understand how to play with it.
Thanks

lol, I never would have thought language would have been a problem.
Glad its sorted now. Have fun testing NWR, let me know what u think.  :)

hi can i download this and play with real money [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Yes it is possible to play with real money. I would advice you to use practice mode in the online casino's first until u get a feel for the program.
Btw fellow members, I got bored this afternoon and added a @ button to NWR, check it out!!!
lol, Ok ok, its not just that. I have also worked on the AutoBet feature and it is now available to the public. HURRRAY  ;D.
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1 to 1 progression are Red/Black, Odd/Even, High/Low
2 to 1 progression are Dozens and Rows.
Hint. If u would like NWR to bet only on, for example, Donzens and Red/Black, nothing else, set the setting for everything else to something rediculousely high. e.g 200.

There are some limitations thou. Atm NWR will only let u test it out for 15 minutes. Sorry.
I have tested AutoBet for a while now. It seems to be pretty solid. Thou I have mainly been testing it in practice mode.
In real money mode the numbers don't come up right away like in practice mode. Alot of u may have already realised that. For some reason, because of that(I guess), NWR seems to,rarely, record some numbers twice. I still don't know why. Maybe my computer is strange and it wont happen with u lot. Ultimatily I want to stick the configuration settings quite high and just leave NWR on all night. Lol, can u image? :D
So hey, if u enjoy the 15 minutes of AutoBet feature (or maybe u just want to show some appriciation to Tiago2  :)) and would like to get ur hands on a No-Limitations AutoBet NWR right away, there is one thing u can do, and doing so will help me iron out the kinks in NWR AutoBet and ofcourse, bring me one step closer of achiving my dream of having £1,000,000......ya lol :D
In golden palace there is a Invite-a-friend-and-get-20%-of-there-first-deposit (nolinks://casino.football-data.co.uk/goldenpalace.php). If u aren't currently using Golden Palace casino and wouldn't mind giving it a go, PM me ur email, I'll invite u, and on ur initial deposit I will get 20 percent of that. Technically u're not losing any of ur own money, if u wanted to, I figure, u could cash it straight back out.
Anyway, once  AutoBet is completely solid and the Frequencies graphs thingys are complete, and a few more features I want to add are coded, I will be announcing version 1.0 of NWR. Untill then, this will be my last release. Unless there is an urgent bug that needs to be fixed. Pls give feedback and any ideas or feature u would like to see in version 1.0. Thanks.

Download NeverWinterRoulette ->nolinkss://sourceforge.net/projects/neverwinterroul/

Been waiting for this to test, good work m8, only problam is i cant adjust the box size so i cant input the casino im using or see half the features :(

Ignore last post ive sorted it :)

Nope i thought i had sorted it then realised it was the first version, so i still cant alter the size of the window to alter config and so on :( any ideas ?

In the new NWR its coded to disable the user from making the window any bigger than when its first run. U shouldn't have a problem to make it smaller. But it wont allow u to make it bigger past a certain point. The window should be big enough for a user to have access to all features. I don't understand why thats not the case for u. Could u upload a picture of how small NWR's window is for u? Cheers

hey tiago thanks for releasing test for autobet awsome bit of software would like to put forward an idea tho if you dont mind would be good if you could make it so u can input your startng balance and the balance you would like it to stop at as well as your bet stake and lowest balance it shud run to for the full v1.0 if it would be posible then you could let it run till youve made or lost you limit for the day. and one other thing ive noticed on this version is when you try to change progression it doesnt sem to change and t bets all way to 32 on 1/1 bets for some reason even when i change it.

thanks and carry on the good work

garry

also my version also seems to record the same number over and over again untill you find the problem you could posibly do a small fix so it auto stops like on freakshow after 3 concecutive numbers just an idea

Haha lol. Yeah I found the mistake on the 1to1 bets. Cheers for that mate. I'll add an update soon to fix that.
And hey, about  NWR recording numbers twice... on 'Main' tab there is a 'Eye' check box that once clicked will show two windows. 'Eye' and 'Spin Ended Meter'. The latter one is used to stop NWR from recording numbers more than once. It should look something like the picture below in bet365 casino (Go in 'Click  Coordinates' tab and click 'Auto' button for NWR to align windows first)
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Technically NWR roulette shouldn't record numbers twice... but yeh, it happening. I'll add a optional temporary freakshow-stop-auto-bet thingy soon.
Oh and btw, thanks for the money balance idea. I like it :D I'll be sure to add that one.

anything to help the cause mate ill keep testing and seeing if i can spot anything else  cheers

found another fault if you change from standard settings ie from 15 on dozens i lowered it to 12 to test autobet seems to keep betting after a win  :-/ i had  win on 6 and it still bet 9 and 13 strange

BUGs are FIXED  ;D and also...
Under the 'Configuration' tab there are two new features.
First one is 'Bet interval'. This is used to set how fast NWR bets in 1,000's of a second. Dont put this value lower than 100.
Computers can be faster than the eye. Slowing it down will allow u to see exactly what NWR is betting.
Second is 'OCR FreakShow caution'. Its a precaution in case for some reason NWR records a individual number spinned more than X times.
Enjoy ppl.
nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/71305486/NWR.zip.html *EDIT* <-there's a minor bug in the binary include in the zip. Check next post for fix
NOTE: both source and binary are include in the zip.
PS. For some reason, if NWR is in the middle of clicking to reach a progression amount. If u want to stop it at that point... u might aswell pull the plug out. It will only stop after its reached the progression bet amount AND spinned the roullette wheel.
 I advice u to try it. Use Play for Fun mode, make the very first progression to 20 or something and the alarms to like 1 or 2. NWR will start the bet, and while in the middle try and stop it with the hotkeys. Its a minor glitch that needs still fixing. Just letting u guys know. I know playing for real money can keep us at the edge of our seats.

Im working on a 'Panick' Hotkey. Which will shut the whole program down in an instant if, all else fails. lol  

NOTE2. NWR records every spin onto a freq.dat file (this file is cleared everytime NWR is restarted). So, if one wanted to, they could use the recently life numbers from a online casino to use to test a system on Roulette Xtreme 2.0 or something. Just change the name from freq.dat to freq.txt. And u're good to go...  if one wanted to...

There was a minor bug in 'OCR FreakShow caution' feature. Its been fixed. Download new binary here -> nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/71372707/NWRv0251a.exe.html.

hi mate a couple of questions

do you play for real money

and do you make money using your software

problem to configure automatically
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Quotehi mate a couple of questions

do you play for real money

and do you make money using your software

Give it a try. Play it safe first and use ''Play for Fun'' mode ,from the online casinos, where u use virtual money. Once u get the feel for it, and if u like it. Its up to u if u want to use it for ''Real Money'' mode.

Stan, the window can't be found because u're playing it through a browser. NWR searches for the window title 'European Roulette - bet365casino' then configures click settings to match that window. See image below.
Download bet365 casino's software and it should work.  

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also tiago seem to remember it only works in english unless it just means english language as hes using american version this may cause a problem

True say, there might be a difference between the two englishs. Stan make sure the one u download has the window title of ''European Roulette - bet365casino'' exactly. And it should be alright.

any chance of sending new version of nwr the download link doesnt seem to be working think rapidshare is down e-mail is garryrobson@fsmail.net cheers garry

got it back in sourceforge > nolinks://sourceforge.net/projects/neverwinterroul/ <  the new file is called ' NWRv0251a.zip'

hey tiago cheers for that, autobet now working perfect prefer to use bet interval of 500 only minor problem is it could do with when freakshow occurs it doesnt clear bets so if u click autospin again it bets last amount over and over just a minor glitch but its coming on really well.

also been trying a new sytem with this to anyone using nwr would appreciate some help testing it.

i only use dozens and colums set the minimums at 7 and max at 8

it minght sound crazy but i seem to have more frequent wins and occasional losses say i make £20 from 0.25 bets then have a loss
i lose £9.50 and im still £10.50 up it seems to be the trend your wins out weigh losses i made £50 on free play in just 40 minutes on 0.25 bets today. will keep testing would appreciate some help thanks garry

Hi gazrobbo,
In which casino is that? Maybe it doesn't matter. Have tried the software but no luck. I won in the beginning but the losses came. I tried to set the limit on dozens/rows on 26 and even bets for 13. Heh, was much of waiting but never mind when it's autospinning. The autobet got disconnected after some time but I bet manual as well. Well, 2 times it past 26 and I won and a few times past 13 on even bets. I think it got to more than 18 and I lost. Well, no big deal but not a good way to play I think.
Will try gazrobbo's way to play but with small bets.

that was with bet365 mate, and as for setting between 26-29 where wins would be few and far between if you could leave it to run for hours you would almost be guarenteed everytime you bet would be good if autobet was released unrestricted, btw tiago how much would you take for the unrestricted version would love to do some testing on £1 bets waiting for 26-28 and leaving it running for a night. and also proper long term testing for waiting for 7's and making more than you lose reguards garry

Hey, gazrobbo you and bobco are doing a fine job figuring out all the best tactics for using NWR. No touble at all, I'll give u and bobco the unrestriceted version of NWR and u two could be the beta-testers. Gazrobbo u're practically one already with all the bugs u've told me so far. I appreciated that. My full attention now is to get v1.0 up and running. I have alot of new features im adding to it and if u lot wouldn't mind to test individual features once they come out for a bit and report any bugs there may be, like with the bankroll limits, TRIOs tracking etc. U'll get ur name in the @ box too :D.  I have ur email already gazrobbo, bobco if u give me urs aswell I'll send u the unrestricted version too. Not at home now but i'll send it as soon as I get back. laterz -Tiago

cheers tiago will keep u upto date with any bugs and also long term statagy results. try to get nwr to win consistantly thanks aloy garry

Hello Tiago. I dl:ed your prog but cant figure out how it works. Do you have a manual for it?


Thx
/Compa

Hello Tiago,
I have sent u a pm. As I also mentioned I would like the bets to be lower if possible. Set to 0.10 and 0.25, for example. Would be good if you could type it in yourself.

Thanks!

Compa,
Tiago made a video earlier about it to help understand it.

bobco lowest you can bet is 0.25 on bet365 and golden palace and if you click the 0.25 chips before starting thats what it will bet the progression is for units so if its 1,2,3,4,6,9,13 and you use 0.25 bets it would do 0.25,0.50,0.75,1.00,1.50,2.25,3.25 hope this helps works the other way to if you wanted to do £5 bets it would progress like 5,10,15,20,30,45,65. one of my ideas is to try a £5 bet with a £400 bankroll waiting for 28's leaving it running all night on only dozens and colums would only need 5-6 wins to make my £50 target. would have to replace the freakshow safty feature with a feture that stops at low balence tho.  thanks garry

QuoteHello Tiago,
I have sent u a pm. As I also mentioned I would like the bets to be lower if possible. Set to 0.10 and 0.25, for example. Would be good if you could type it in yourself.

Thanks!

Compa,
Tiago made a video earlier about it to help understand it.

OK, WHERE can i FIND that Video??
/Thx
/Compa

hey mate video link is nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/70480941/NWRVideo.rar.html

Quotebobco lowest you can bet is 0.25 on bet365 and golden palace and if you click the 0.25 chips before starting thats what it will bet the progression is for units so if its 1,2,3,4,6,9,13 and you use 0.25 bets it would do 0.25,0.50,0.75,1.00,1.50,2.25,3.25 hope this helps works the other way to if you wanted to do £5 bets it would progress like 5,10,15,20,30,45,65. one of my ideas is to try a £5 bet with a £400 bankroll waiting for 28's leaving it running all night on only dozens and colums would only need 5-6 wins to make my £50 target. would have to replace the freakshow safty feature with a feture that stops at low balence tho.  thanks garry

Thanks gazrobbo,
Wasn't aware of that. I wouldn't try with real money with autobet but the few bets  for dozen and columns would come. They are better than the even bets. Say a stop at 26,28 or 30. The seven step progression would be good then. Could it go over 37? Starting at a £5 would win a lot if needed running all night but only some bets would be needed.

depends need to test it all out first. ive never seen it go over 33 but then again im fairy new to this game ive seen many 26-29's not many 30's so i would be inclined to test out for the first few nights 26's then 27's and so on i reckon 26's would be high enough as that gives you to 33 just depends how many of these you get a night. it may even be posible to play £1's on 26's and still make good profits. just take alot of testing to find the most consistant approach, itll be worth the work to find the most effective  :P

Hello all,
I haven't tested the autobet so much but I have noticed when it comes to limit of your betting the NWR turns red and it stops. Why that? Have I missed something in the program?
Thanks!

Its built that way, when the end of the progression bet is reached it will shut down autobet and autospin and turn red.
I'll add an option to loop it. For the momment, quickfix around it, if u want NWR to loop the progression bets... that is...
if u have progression 1,2,3,4,6 and u want it to loop.. u could set progression like so....1,2,3,4,6,1,2,3,4,6,1,2,3,4,6... its a bit messy but it'll work.

Quotehey mate video link is nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/70480941/NWRVideo.rar.html

Thanks mate, appreciate it:)!

Cheers
/Compa

Hello Tiago,
I have downloaded that unlimit bet version you sent but the problem with it is that the casino software seem to stop after a while probably because you don't bet. So leave it running all night seems impossible if you put the limit for start betting high. I put 26 for dozens and columns but it didn't hit once in an hour. Hopefully it would hit a few times on a night but when the casino software stops it's a problem.

How do u mean by stops? Does the roulette window close? Crash? I know it closes if the user hasn't touched it for a while... but i always thought if the users was at least spinning the wheel it wouldn't. Interesting... i'll run some tests here at home. I'll leave settings like 50 or something and see if it will keep spinning all night. And see what I can figure out. Get back to u laterz dude

Same here tiago twice in a row after between 4000-5000 spins it registered 4 in a row in online free play stopping it from doing anymore spins. tryed it in the offline mode when i went to work today was still going 10 1/2 hours later. maybe a nominal bet of 0.25 after 1000 spins would solve this.

after full 10 1/2 hours in offline mode testing waiting for 26's with £5 progression of 7 (5,10,15,20,30,45,65)

total spins showed 76379

results for dozens were
1: 12373
2: 8320
3: 5734
4: 3777
5: 2502
6: 1659
7: 1049
8: 749
9: 484
10: 329
11: 194
12: 130
13: 92
14: 53
15: 55
16: 23
17: 15
18: 21
19: 17
20: 4
21: 2
22: 3
23: 1
24: 2
25: 1
26: 0
27: 0
28: 1
29: 0
30: 0
31: 0
32: 0  = 35337 spins

so dozens never went above 28 in 76379 offline spins, not sure of colums as there not working yet.
this was a totl profit of only £25 in 10 1/2 hours on £5 bets.
obviously as only one went over 26 on dozens and went to 28 that would of been a £15 profit 2 bets is (£10 at 2/1 = £30 - £10 stake  and - 1st £5 stake )
so the other win must have been £10 from a colums bet
and most importantly no losses.

and there may be a bug with the recording system as all the dozens only add upto 35337 spins when total spins were 76379 that would either suggest there is a bug in either total spins or the frequency chart. or there were 41000 zeros lol.

on the same 76379 spins i have calculated the following data, if i were to play these configurations of nwr bearing in mind this is only for playing dozens as i have no info as for colums ect yet.


1.setting betting alarm at 7's and progression for 2/1 bets at 7
from 7's to 14's  ( 7 step progression max loss 38 units )
won   4062 units
lost  5510 units
total -1448 units

so on 0.25 bets -£362
  on 1.00 bets -£1148
  on 5.00 bets -£5740


2.setting betting alarm at 7's and progression for 2/1 bets at 11
from 7's to 18's  ( 11 step progression max loss 200 units )
won   4294
lost  6000
total -1706

so on 0.25 bets -£426.50
  on 1.00 bets -£1706
  on 5.00 bets -£8530

3.setting betting alarm at 10's and progression for 2/1 bets at 10
from 10's to to 20's ( 10 step progression max loss 133 units )
won   1208 units
lost  1330 units
total -122 units

so on 0.25 bets -£30.50
  on 1.00 bets -£122
  on 5.00 bets -£610


4.setting betting alarm at 18's and progression for 2/1 bets at 5
from 18's to 23's ( 5 step progression max loss 16 units)
won   54 units
lost  64 units
total -10 units

so on 0.25 bets -£2.50
  on 1.00 bets -£10
  on 5.00 bets -£50

5.setting betting alarm at 18's and progression for 2/1 bets at 7
from 18's to 25's ( 7 step progression max loss 38 units)
won   60 units
lost  38 units
total +22 units

so on 0.25 bets +£5.50
  on 1.00 bets +£22
  on 5.00 bets +£110


6.setting betting alarm at 21's and progression for 2/1 bets at 7
from 21's to 28's ( 7 step progresion max loss 38 units)
won   16 units
lost  0 units
total +16 units

so on 0.25 bets +£4
  on 1.00 bets +£16
  on 5.00 bets +£80




As you can see from above the most effective method for these 76379 would be method 5 betting alarm on 18 for a progression of 7
will update after a few more tests over similar spin and try to do the maths over all total spins to work out the most viable method thanks garry

p/s there are many combinations from these spins i havent worked out as im tired lol will add a few more combinations tomorrow try to get more effective ones.

if you want to try make one your self .
1.choose a start point for alarm ( eg 7)
2.choose an end point (eg 12)
3. work out progression ( so start point is 7 so will start betting at 8  (8 9 10 11 12 ) = 5 step progression)
4. work out max loss on a progression (as its 5 step 1+2+3+4+6 = 16 units)
5. add up all the numbers on the chart in post above from start point plus one in this case 8
6. multiply that by 2 as its a 2/1 bet ( this equels units won )
7 then add up numbers from chart in post above after progression ends ( in this case from 13 to 33)
8. then multiply this number by the maximum loss for progresion ( in this case 16 units)
9 subtract that from units won to get your total profit/loss
10 if you want to work out for 0.25 bets divide wins and losses by 4
11. if you want to work out for 5.00 multiply wins and losses by 5

thanks hope thats not too confusing lol

Good work gazrobbo, interesting the way u figured this all out. This gives me a new idea, I'll incorporate a system in v1.0 to calculate results for the user like the ones u've done here. I didn't do the math, but it looks like there is alot going on. About the numbers recording more than once,... im writting a completly new Number Recognition system using MD5 hashes which, theoretically, will eliminate any numbers being recorded more than once. Anyway, good work dude on figuring this out, I'll start work on the FreakShow occurances on Rows etc when Im done with Number Recognition. Hopefully, also incorporating a results feature like u've done above as to take the headache out off calculating it manually. I'll keep u posted... keep up the good work :)  

Agree, well done gazrobbo.  I don't know however you play off-line spins as you have to log in either you go into fun play or real play?  But to leave it unattended for example over the night can be a problem when the casino software close down if you don't bet (it's the same for live play for example, if you don't bet for some spins you get logged out from the play, not from the casino but from the play). The betting amount could maybe change to 0.25 for example if you betstart is on 5 but how would be that be done? Anyway, gazrobbos test was interesting and I will come up with statistic too when I get time.
Tiago, could you add the features for lines, streets, squares, splits and numbers as well. It's a hell of a job I guess but much appreciated. Thanks!  :)

I'll add support for splits etc aswell. And to tackle the window from closing i'll add coordinates for all chip amounts 0.25, 1.00 and user will be able to configure how often to make a single small bet... or/and I'll program NWR to re-open roulette window every X amount of time... which ever one is more suited...  

cheers guys gonna watch footie and have a few beers tonight but last night i tested system 5 from the other post 18's to 25's on £1 spins in offline mode was £25 up then freakshow occured and it stopped playing but not to bad i suppose will leave it running tonite and add all the dozens results togeter to give a more comprehensive show over more spins, oh and i have another idea but ill post it in other section lol.

found the spin problem is definatly with the total spins not the fequencys if you put interval on 1200 then count the spins then look at total spins total spins is adding way more than actutall spins over the 10 hour period i reckon the 35000 or so spins shown by the frequency is more accurate than the total spins counter. reguards garry

hi Tiago2,
I want the unlimit bet version of NWR for testing, you can send it   neuro63@gmail.com
Thanks

NWR unlimited-AutoBet version is privatised atm. I only sent it to a few ppl who have showed a willingness to give help out with its development. When v1.0 is complete, I'll give it out with no limitations. Estimated time for that is a about month. Depending on how much spare-time i'll get to work on it. Untill then, enjoy the current version, any feedback is always appreciated  :). The only limitation are in Autobet. AutoSpin has none.
BTW, if u're a programmer u can get ur hands on the sourcecode and disable the limitation. If u are a programmer, help me out with some coding, to speed things up, i'll really apreciated it.

How can I disable the limitation in source code?
Thanks

-*Hint* Check Timers-. -Delphi language

just been testing 18's to 29's with 11 step progression looks quite promising it bets quite frequently therefore doesnt shut nwr down and also made £30 in one hour with £1 stakes. i know risks are higher with a 11 step progression so im gonna test it over a few days as you would have to make 200 on £1 stakes to afford 1 loss or £50 or 0.25 stakes. thanks agrry

The highest freakshow I've seen was 33....
With 11 step progression, if bet alarms are set at 22 to 24 , it may result in some positive outcomes. I haven't tested it yet over long hours...  

problem is you may only get 5-6 22-24's over a 10 hour period so if we catagorised stratagys into high medium and low risk this would be low risk with low returns maybe when weve done lots more testing you could have three suggested strategys and a three buttons which auto set these stratagys up marked high risk medium risk low risk as well as being able to customise setting.
18's to 29's is id say medium - high risk as ou have to make a £200 profit before being safe from a loss. to now im upto £100 in 1h20mins if i can get to 200 without a loss say 4 days out of 5 that would be equivelant of making £600 in 5 days £800 profit - £200 loss on one day even though loss would be less than 200 as you would have probably made some before the loss. now if you cut this to the £50 a day target which can be made in under 1 hour thats £200 a week and equivelant spins to £800 a month if that makes sence lol.

ps. i will run test for 23's tonight let u know results in terms of profit loss tomorow cheers garry

How do you add more steps if you want a progression go 11 steps instead of 7 (on the 2 to 1)? I tried to type in and it didn't work?
Thanks

QuoteI'll add support for splits etc aswell. And to tackle the window from closing i'll add coordinates for all chip amounts 0.25, 1.00 and user will be able to configure how often to make a single small bet... or/and I'll program NWR to re-open roulette window every X amount of time... which ever one is more suited...  

Hi Tiago2

congrats on this great little tool.
do you plan on adding more casinos to this tool in the near future?

cheers

on 2 to 1's bobco 11 step progression is 1,2,3,4,6,9,13,20,30,45,67 so first put 20 in 2/1 add box then click add then put in 30 and click add and so on regurds garry

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Hi Tiago2

congrats on this great little tool.
do you plan on adding more casinos to this tool in the near future?

cheers

Cheers mate. Yes I'm adding support for more casinos. User will be able to configure NWR to use other casinos not supported by default. Hence, virtually any casino will be playable with NWR. Near future? I hope so! Fingers crossed for that  ;). Btw features being implement into NWR can be found at this thread >nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196019374<.

QuoteCheers mate. Yes I'm adding support for more casinos. User will be able to configure NWR to use other casinos not supported by default. Hence, virtually any casino will be playable with NWR. Near future? I hope so! Fingers crossed for that  Wink. Btw features being implement into NWR can be found at this thread >nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196019374<.  

That's great mate. Once again fantastic little tool.

Cheers

tiago gave this a little go on real play and autobet seems to go wappy and kep on betting after wins not sure if its a protection in place by casinos or a software bug just to let everyone know dont try with real money just yet thanks garry

I'll have a look and try to sort this out. Cheers for the warning

Hi,
any news?

hey ppl, kinda left u guys in the dark for a bit... I'm curently recoding the tracking system for the way NWR recognised numbers, new algorithm is alot more accurate than previously. v1.0 will be sometime, sad to inform. Thou Im planning on release a working AutoBet pre-version-1 release in time for christmas :D yea! GUI has been completely re-done. I think u'll all find it very attractive ;) lol. Wish me luck in programming it with minimum bugs. I'll post NWR when autobet is complete.  

Hi Tiago,

Good to hear from you again. Good luck with your work   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] and Merry Christmas!   [smiley=Santa001.gif]

Hi Tiago2,
You may release the current source code
Thanks
Merry Christmas!

hi guys will software be ready for xmas  [smiley=Santa001.gif]

Hopefully yes, not v1.0 thou. Im aiming to release a workable autobet NWR in time for Christmas. Have a free week now so NWR will be getting a bit more attention. Anyway...I have a request.  I need some help with coding NWR, KK, I figure most of the ppl here have never wrote a single line of code before. So hey! Here's you chance to get you hands dirty :D. lol It's not hardcore programming, acutally its fairly simple, but tidious. I'll explain.

NWR v1.0 will be able to track all catagories in a roulette board, from dozens to splits to corners etc. I've already coded the core of this number tracking system. What I need now is a complete Number Dictionary which will tell NWR which catagories a particular number belongs to. For example, The number 1 belongs to the 1st Dozen, 1st Column, Odd etc.

I've coded a few of these catagories in all 36 numbers so NWR is at present tracking all catagories as the previous release. The dictionary, once complete will have more than 500 entries all together. Which will be...ya... painfull to code. lol. At the momment I would like to put my full attention into coding AutoBet, AutoSpin is already up and running, cept for a complete dictionary.
So if anyone would like to help out a bit I would really apreciate it. In 10 minitues one could complete 1 or 2 numbers. That would already be a big help. I uploaded a zip file, in it are instructions on how to add catagories in NWR. Give it a go if you've got some spare time. Cheers
-Tiago2
File: nolinks://files-upload.com/files/683000/Code.zip
PS. Sneak Preview of NWR v1.0 new GUI...Still work in progress
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ok mate i will work all day friday my day of on this still not

sure how it all works will work it out.  [smiley=Santa001.gif]

Thank you Tiago2 for this excellent work and let us stay free.
I have small questions?

- The casino can detect the software? [smiley=cool.gif]
- Someone has already been banned from the casino?
- Can we speak of fraud or method?

Thank you
A + [smiley=dankk2.gif]

According to the license agreements of casinos i've used, it states that we should not modify or try to modify the casino's software in anyway. NWR does is do the equivent of one pressing 'Print screen' on their keyboard, which is fine. And take controll of the mouse's cursor. It does not in anyway inject code or modify casinos files in any way. So yeh... I think NWR is not conflicting watsoever with the license agreements of the casinos. And dunno if anyone got banned from a casino for using NWR. If they did I would like to know which casino banned them. I don't see how NWR could breech a license agreement. Because one could get a paper and pen and track all the numbers down manually. Ofcourse that would be quite a task, NWR does it automaticaly and alot faster. I do not think NWR breaks any rules of a Casino's licence agreement. Thou, u should always read them before using NWR. Just in case...
Weather the casino can detect the software? what is there to detect? NWR does not try to take over communication between casino's software and the casino. Does not modify casino software. NWR is like anyother software on ur computer. If Casino's software detects NWR, its no different than detecting Windows Messenger or Media player. And if it does... why is the casino's software even monitoring ur computer? As far as Im concerned it should only monitor its own software.

"Can we speak of fraud or method?" What do u mean by that? How NWR works? if that is it, well NWR takes a picture of the number that comes up on the casino, once the number is recognised from the picture it puts into propper catagories, Dozens, Rows etc...

Thanks you for your answer
Merry Christmas! [smiley=Santa001.gif]

Hi Tiago


Just a small question. Sometimes when NWR is running a sequence of the same number falls. Say number 7 will hit 8 times or number 9 will hit 12 times. Is this a software glitch or a glitch in the RNG?

Cheers

Yeh thats a glitch in NWR. It has been fixed already in the upcoming version :)

Hey guys merry Christmas... With NWR, I wont be making a release in time for Christmas...which is today! yea!!! Due to a critical bug I found in autospin, which effects everything else, being that autobet uses autospin's code to operate. So yeh... NWR release Estimated time is... unknown.

QuoteHey guys merry Christmas... With NWR, I wont be making a release in time for Christmas...which is today! yea!!! Due to a critical bug I found in autospin, which effects everything else, being that autobet uses autospin's code to operate. So yeh... NWR release Estimated time is... unknown.

i can't wait for the new version Thank you Tiago2 you do a good job ! ;) ;) ;) ;)

New track Soon !

sorry for my english

Cheers for the thumbs up. I'll let u know when its done.

hi tiago can,t wait for the release mate

have a good new year everyone  [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Happy new year to all. May u all have had a blast. Just wanted to let u know. A new version of NWR will be released within the next few hours... or days. depending on how much time I'll get to work on it. Currently there is one more thing I want to finish coding. Once thats over I will be releasing it. Its not version 1 yet thou. Aside from AutoBet and AutoSpin there is now AutoTrack. Which I will explain later what it is and how to use it.

  Hi All! Hows life?
 Im glad to annouce that a new version of Never Winter Roulette is now online. Currently at version 0.3. GUI major update, new features aswell.
One of them is Autotrack.

 Note about Autotrack before I explain it.. When using autotrack the balance displayed in NWR is currently completly off. Just ignore it. Another thing. When AutoTrack is enabled try not to mess with other features. That seems to freeze NWR, still need to fix that. Anyway, just disable it first then mess all u want :D.

 kk, AutoTrack is kinda like AutoSpin, except it doesn't click the spin button for u on the casino window. With AutoTrack enabled you can click the casino spin button yourself and NWR will update automatically (Don't click too fast, otherwise NWR may not keep up, there is alot of calculations going on underneather it's hood. Give it a second or two before clicking and u should be fine. Otherwise NWR may miss a number). It will also tell u how much to bet, according to the progression u set up first. In case u can't remember it by heart. Kinda like RouletteSniper, if u've ever used that program.

 Anyway, the whole idea behind AutoTrack is to first enable it, then enable AutoSpin. Once a bet potential has come up, Autospin will disable itself and Autotrack will then take over, telling u where and how much to bet, according to the progressions defined by the user. It was a bit of a hassle to code it. Thought it be a handy feature to have thou.  Pls tell me what u think. Cheers :D
 
 Something else, kinda important, AutoBet currently has a bug in it, which I still need to fix. That being the hotkey (default F6) to disable it, sometimes doesn't work. In such a case, it will keep spinning and betting until progressions have finished. Just keep that in mind. Use it at your own risk.
 AutoBet is only enabled for 15 minutes.

 Currently NWR comes preconfigured to work with one casino only, Bet365, European Roulette table. It is possible to create other configurations (Tools > Casino Config). Thou Casino Config is a bit complex and I haven't yet wiped out all the bugs in it. For the time being, if you would like to use NWR with a different casino, let me know and i'll try to make a configuration for u. All u'd have to do then is put the configuration in NWR dir/Config and u'll be straddled up and ready to ride  [smiley=thumbsup.gif].

And yeh... the picture below explains basic features. Any further questions post them here at the forum. Haven't had time to write a help file yet.
Well... Enjoy ppl. And tell me what u think of the new NWR :D

As always, I advice u to use NWR in virtual money mode first until u get the grip of it.
And as always aswel, Im happy to hear any feedback, bugs, or ideas that will better NWR. :)

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Hey Tiago2 big thums for you mate it looks great,  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] but can you use thid software also for analyzing?

a wery nice program!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] the best program i ewer used! but cann you configure it for casino tropez and jolandcasino? and about the singles will you eneble this function couse i coud really use it...


i think there is a bug, an error opens on run that indicates something about the floating poing ...


and a error acces violation at adres 004F57CD in module "nwrv1.exe" .Read of adress 00000040

tnx

regards

hi why does the autobet only work for 15 min

why not all the time  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Quotea wery nice program!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] the best program i ewer used! but cann you configure it for casino tropez and jolandcasino? and about the singles will you eneble this function couse i coud really use it...


i think there is a bug, an error opens on run that indicates something about the floating poing ...


and a error acces violation at adres 004F57CD in module "nwrv1.exe" .Read of adress 00000040

tnx

regards

 Here are configs for Casino Joyland and Tropez. Extract contents into NWR dir\Configs. You should then be able to select them from NWR casino button on the menubar. > nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/82191600/Configs.zip.html <
 
 Code for Singles and splits still needs to be written. Thats why they're disabled. When I get some free time I'll try and finish them.

 About the error, when you open NWR u get it? Before pressing any buttons?
I know what the error is about, its one of when NWR tries to convert text into numbers. And if the text has a space or something its not a real number, and a error like that one comes up. Dnt ask, computers are stupid. lol
 
 Try this, If its on startup u're getting this error. NWR settings might be corrupt. Move Settings.ini out of NWR directory. Then open NWR again. It should load up with everything reset and no error.

QuoteHey Tiago2 big thums for you mate it looks great,  [smiley=thumbsup.gif] but can you use thid software also for analyzing?

 Cheers for the the thumbs :D.
About ur question the answer im afraid is no. The number analysing in NWR can't be changed or influenced by a third party program. About all u can do is analyse numbers after they have been spun by File>Export>Numbers spinned.
 'Number analysing' that controlls when AutoSpin or AutoBet spins or bets can't be changed. Im planning on creating a 'PlugIn' feature that will enable other people to create 'Number Analsying' algorithms to controll AutoSpin and AutoBet. But thats not going to be done for sometime...

Quote
Here are configs for Casino Joyland and Tropez. Extraxt contents into NWR dir\Condigs. You should then be able to select them from NWR casino button on the menubar. > nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/82191600/Configs.zip.html

tnx works well...

Quote
 Code for Singles and splits still needs to be written. Thats why they're disabled. When I get some free time I'll try and finish them.

tnx cant await it!

Quote

 About the error, when you open NWR u get it? Before pressing any buttons?
I know what the error is about, its one of when NWR tries to convert text into numbers. And if the text has a space or something its not a real number, and a error like that one comes up. Dnt ask, computers are stupid. lol
 
 Try this, If its on startup u're getting this error. NWR settings might be corrupt. Move Settings.ini out of NWR directory. Then open NWR again. It should load up with everything reset and no error.

the problem is in the chip size you writen 0.25 and 1.00 but it must be 0,25 and 1,00 and so on this is why the error occurs... i tryed to remove the ini but dosnt help!

i hawe a nother problem how cann be the progression setings saved couse vhen i open it the setings are gone?

and the frequncys are not recorded? in the frequncy txt i get only zeros...wath could be wrong?


this program is a master pice ... i see you are a realy good programer coder and all ...

tnx for the program!

hi tiago can you leave autobet on all the time mate  [smiley=smiley.gif]

  Autobet hasn't yet been throughrally tested. The last few days before releasing it I've been finding and fixing alot of bugs it had. It seems to be working like it should now. But just incase, I figure with 15 minutes the user can stay close and keep an eye on NWR as it AutoBets.
 I know with NWR v0.2.5 someone pointed out that when they switched to real money mode NWR wouldn't bet like it should. I never did look into it because I was already busy working at the new NWR. In v0.3 AutoBet was rewritten from scratch with a different algorithm aswell, so far it seems stable.
 I haven't yet used AutoBet in real money mode. And I wont untill I fix the issue with the stop hotkey not working properly. Dont really fancy the idea of having to pull the plug on my computer incase I don't want to take the next bet. lol. I might extended the AutoBet timeout in a future update. But For time being its staying at 15min.    

Hi i have a bug with version NWR v0.3

The software does not find the numbers and does not show.
It has all the numbers in each category.>It counts the numbers in each box

Sorry for my english. U understand ?

Thx [smiley=dankk2.gif]

I sent a screenshoot (Personnal message)

Cheers scofield, I saw the image u sent me by PM. The eye window is meant to be see-through not olive colour. U're using XP, i haven't tested NWR on that. I do all my work in a Vista computer. I'll load up NWR in a XP computer and try to find the problem with it. Anyone else use a XP computer and are having this problem where the eye window is all olive color?  'Tools>Show Eye' will show the Eye window.

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@tiago2

Quote
i hawe a nother problem how cann be the progression setings saved couse vhen i open it the setings are gone?

and the frequncys are not recorded? in the frequncy txt i get only zeros...wath could be wrong?

yes i hawe the same problem... the eye is the same color ...

this problem where the eye window is all olive color?


Software plant (bug) that is why the color seems strange

Haven't yet had time to figure this out. But does it work if the eye window isn't showing?

Hey scolfield got ur pm. Anyone else having a problem where the eye window doesn't line up with the casino's number box, try to move it and/or resize it to look like the picture below it should start recognising numbers and AutoSpin along with AutoTrack should work... thou AutoBet wont work properly im afraid. Because all the coordinates are just a bit off. I'll have the 'Casino Config' feature up. That way u'll be able to configure everything if need be...
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  KK, after thinking a bit I've realise that people not using Vista or a different UI theme on windows will have a problem with the casino configurations. For the problem where the Eye window doesn't line up u can reconfigure NWR casino settings. Im releasing the Casino Config feature. > nolinkss://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=209693&package_id=251628 < Download 'NWRv0.4.zip'.
 There aren't many error prevention warning yet in this feature. Follow the steps in order from the image below to create a new configuration and u should be fine. :D
Enjoy :D
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Hi Tiago2,
You may release the current source code
Thanks  

Sorry to disapoint. But I wont be releasing the source code for NWR anymore. Source code for the previous NWR is still online. U a programmer btw?

I am not a programmer can only compile the code
Thanks

Tiago, I sent a personal message

++ [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Hey tiago, recently downloaded your software and would like to congratulate you on a wonderful piece of programming! [smiley=thumbsup.gif] I think this could be the ultimate software for online roulette, however something very strange happened today. After i had won a bet the software continued progressive betting, i stopped auto spin and auto bet but it just wouldn't stop!! it was like it was possessed! I managed to close the casino and it stopped, i checked by balance and luckily i was up £40! haa amazing. Don't think im gonna risk it again though  [smiley=wink.gif]
So when do you expect the new version to be complete? its looking awesome from the pics, can't wait ;D

Cheers dude! Alot of effort was put into NWR.
The new (pre v1.0) NWR has been out for a few days now, if u're still using the green coloured one that is...
Heres the link > nolinks://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=209693&package_id=251628 < Download  NWRv0.4.zip  

hey, thanks for the link, can't get the newer version to work though, followed the guide above but it just crashes and the eye goes green when trying to set up the numbers. Any ideas? also how far away is v1.0? :)

Version 1 wont be done for awail still. Anyway, A few ppl have reported the Eye window going Olive colour during Casino Config, by which messes up the number dictionary from being made. Anyway To fix the problem download quick update. > nolinkss://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=209693&package_id=251628 < "      NWRv0.4.1.rar". Then once eye has been position and sized approprietly in Casino Config, click 'Eye > Visible' to hide the Eye window. Start Capture. It should work ;)

Just downloaded the latest version.
Looks great.
Having trouble setting it up with other casinos.
I tried OnlineCasino.com
And tried step 5.
Tried capture and kept getting "The Parameter is incorrect.
Tried saving then loading it. and got "is not a valid integer value."
Hmm, lots to do then.
Looking forward to version 1.

QuoteJust downloaded the latest version.
Looks great.
Having trouble setting it up with other casinos.
I tried OnlineCasino.com
And tried step 5.
Tried capture and kept getting "The Parameter is incorrect.
Tried saving then loading it. and got "is not a valid integer value."
Hmm, lots to do then.
Looking forward to version 1.

Odd, let it sit there for a bit.
And it seems to go ok again.
Not sure why capture takes so long.
Seems to freeze up for a bit.
Ohh well.
Early days.

Quote

QuoteJust downloaded the latest version.
Looks great.
Having trouble setting it up with other casinos.
I tried OnlineCasino.com
And tried step 5.
Tried capture and kept getting "The Parameter is incorrect.
Tried saving then loading it. and got "is not a valid integer value."
Hmm, lots to do then.
Looking forward to version 1.

Odd, let it sit there for a bit.
And it seems to go ok again.
Not sure why capture takes so long.
Seems to freeze up for a bit.
Ohh well.
Early days.

Ahh when you select playtech european from the load menu.
It seems to capture for a bit.
Then it stops.
hmmmm.

Heres a video of configuring the number dictionary in Casino Config. Hope it helps > nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/83254325/Casino_Config.wmv.html  <

QuoteHeres a video of configuring the number dictionary in Casino Config. Hope it helps > nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/83254325/Casino_Config.wmv.html  <

Umm that took me to rapid share.
And did not see where to download the file.
Do I have to pay for it.

lol, no. Just scrolldown and click the 'free' button

Quotelol, no. Just scrolldown and click the 'free' button

Thankyou.
Got the video.
Got Never Winter to capture the numbers.
And the test worked just fine.
I thought that it would never stop.
Now all that seems not to work is the Click Coordinates.
Hmmm.
How do I set that up.
I have read the instructions.
Tried to click the ctrl key.
And the test button.
Or the record button.
Still did nothing.
Any ideas?

Quote

Quotelol, no. Just scrolldown and click the 'free' button

Thankyou.
Got the video.
Got Never Winter to capture the numbers.
And the test worked just fine.
I thought that it would never stop.
Now all that seems not to work is the Click Coordinates.
Hmmm.
How do I set that up.
I have read the instructions.
Tried to click the ctrl key.
And the test button.
Or the record button.
Still did nothing.
Any ideas?

Never Mind.
Got it working.
Figured it out.
Now that it is set up.
What happens next?
How do we use it to play?

Quote

Quote

Quotelol, no. Just scrolldown and click the 'free' button

Thankyou.
Got the video.
Got Never Winter to capture the numbers.
And the test worked just fine.
I thought that it would never stop.
Now all that seems not to work is the Click Coordinates.
Hmmm.
How do I set that up.
I have read the instructions.
Tried to click the ctrl key.
And the test button.
Or the record button.
Still did nothing.
Any ideas?

Never Mind.
Got it working.
Figured it out.
Now that it is set up.
What happens next?
How do we use it to play?

Never mind.
Got that part working as well.
Still very buggy.
And freezes a lot.
But it does work.
Tested out on bet365 and works fine.
Tried to do the same with OnlineCasino.com
But having some problems.
Tried Dozens and columns. They seem to do ok now.
Gona try the rest as I proceed.
Thanks again.

Some things to improve.
Iron out the bugs.
And there seem to be a few.
Something I noticed was the Balance and the Win/Loss
And the Alarms area.
Perhaps the Alarms area is not calculate properly.
For example.
I started with $600
Now I bet on dozens.
I bet 1 unit on the first dozen.
And if I win my balance should read.
$602 that is what show in my casino balance.
But it shows $600 in the Never Winter window.
Hmmmm.
Oddd.
Could give more details for you.
Not sure if you want me to continue testing out the program.
Or reporting what I find.

Ok, I did a recording of me playing for real.
With real money.
Using the Never Winter Roulette tool.

nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter/neverwinter-vid1.html

QuoteSome things to improve.
Iron out the bugs.
And there seem to be a few.
Something I noticed was the Balance and the Win/Loss
And the Alarms area.
Perhaps the Alarms area is not calculate properly.
For example.
I started with $600
Now I bet on dozens.
I bet 1 unit on the first dozen.
And if I win my balance should read.
$602 that is what show in my casino balance.
But it shows $600 in the Never Winter window.
Hmmmm.
Oddd.
Could give more details for you.
Not sure if you want me to continue testing out the program.
Or reporting what I find.

 Yes please do, the more bugs reported the more places I will know need fixing. Win/Loss and Money Balance is a known bug. Im still working on ironing that one out.
 The idea I had for Balance tracking is to alert the user when they go below a set amount, or reaches a disired amount for the session (thou, atm not yet implemented). Kinda to keep the user in check to not over do his/her luck. lol. Also very important when AutoBet comes into full swing. Anyway cheers for trying out NWR and reporting bugs. Anymore please don't hesitate to report. Much appreciated :D.
 Oh and hey, loved the Real Money video. First time I've seen it used to bet for real by another user. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  

Quote

QuoteSome things to improve.
Iron out the bugs.
And there seem to be a few.
Something I noticed was the Balance and the Win/Loss
And the Alarms area.
Perhaps the Alarms area is not calculate properly.
For example.
I started with $600
Now I bet on dozens.
I bet 1 unit on the first dozen.
And if I win my balance should read.
$602 that is what show in my casino balance.
But it shows $600 in the Never Winter window.
Hmmmm.
Oddd.
Could give more details for you.
Not sure if you want me to continue testing out the program.
Or reporting what I find.

 Yes please do, the more bugs reported the more places I will know need fixing. Win/Loss and Money Balance is a known bug. Im still working on ironing that one out.
 The idea I had for Balance tracking is to alert the user when they go below a set amount, or reaches a disired amount for the session (thou, atm not yet implemented). Kinda to keep the user in check to not over do his/her luck. lol. Also very important when AutoBet comes into full swing. Anyway cheers for trying out NWR and reporting bugs. Anymore please don't hesitate to report. Much appreciated :D.
 Oh and hey, loved the Real Money video. First time I've seen it used to bet for real by another user. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]  

Thanks.

Some suggestions.
Save config on alerts.
I would like to test out single number.
So let me know when that is ready.
After test, it should show the averages.
And this could then be set as your betting alerts.
Perhaps even dynamic alerts could be implemented in future versions.
As you play. It calculates the averages.
And if you have dynamic alerts set.
It could then change the alerts after every 50 or 100 spins.
According to the averages.
Or something like that.

Bugs.
$ and pounds.
Reset.
Seems to freeze after playing for a bit.
When I go to reset.
Just freezes up.

See if you can get it to work on OnlineCasino.com

Another bug.
Is the Total Spins:
Just does not count it correctly.
Seems to jump.
I only played for 30 minutes.
And my Total Spins was 5451
Now that is pushing it a bit far.
Seems to jump at certain times.

It can be difficult to catch these bugs at times.
Not sure if I got one or not.
What happened was I was playing for a bit.
Managed to double my balance.
And then I tried to change the Alarms.
I put in $200 into the box.
Changed the bet unit to $1
I first used the mouse to start to scroll down.
Then I pressed the scroll down arrow.
It did not stop scrolling.
And then it quit.
Hmm.
Will have to try it again.
To see if it happens again.
Then again.
If you are using the tool and playing with it.
It freezes up when you do certain things anyway.
Like reset.
Hmmm.

Cheers for the bug report. I'll try to get those sorted out. If u want to save alarm settings u can click on file > save. That will save all alarms and progressions aswell.

QuoteCheers for the bug report. I'll try to get those sorted out. If u want to save alarm settings u can click on file > save. That will save all alarms and progressions aswell.

Yeah found the save Alarm thing and got it working.
Any news on single number progression?

I got it working with OnlineCasino.com
And the AutoBet feature works well.
Now if I only could test out the single number progression.
Looking forward to the update.

I am not sure if this is a bug or not.
But when you are playing.
And lets say you are having a long loosing streak.
And NW starts to put down the units on the split,dozens or whatever.
If you move you mouse to another number of dozen while it is putting the bet down.
The betting unit will continue to place the bet where you have the mouse.
So lets say you have step 50 on you alarms.
And NW starts to put down 50 units on say the 3 dozen.
If you move the mouse over to number 14 it will start putting units on that number.
Or where ever the mouse is.
I will see if I can do a recording of this happening

Does anyone have any good settings that they use with Never Winter.
My settings are as such.
Dozens: 7 9
Columns: 8 12
Lines: 30 40
Trio: 50 62
RnB: 7 12
HnL: 9 15
EnO: 16 21
Corners: 50 60
Splits: 57 84 (Not implemented yet)
Singles: 62 85 (Not implemented yet)
Progression is set to $50
Sometimes more.
I use $0.25c to play with.
I will see if I can find other casinos that have lower bet units.
And see how that goes.
Gives you more chance to win then.
I think the lowest is $0.10c or pence.
Will have a look and report back.

I would like to do some vids for Never Winter.
But it is not finished yet.
Let me know if you would like me to do some vids for it.
I did some for the other roulette program I use.
You can find them on youtube.
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/profile?user=thomasgrant
Or you can see them at.
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/mmm-videos.html
Or
You can see me on TV.
nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/thomasgrant
or
nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/casinocash
If putting these links is inappropriate.
Then you can delete them.
Just wanted to show some of the vids that I have done.

Hi Tiago2,

thanks for sharing the software.  Before I go test it all out, would like to seek your advice.

Is it possible to use your software at this casino? (Live Roulette site)

CasinoWebCam.com

?

:)
BobbyBobby

QuoteI am not sure if this is a bug or not.
After test, it should show the averages.
And this could then be set as your betting alerts.
Perhaps even dynamic alerts could be implemented in future versions.
As you play. It calculates the averages.
And if you have dynamic alerts set.
It could then change the alerts after every 50 or 100 spins.
According to the averages.
Or something like that.

Hey that sounds like a good idea, just don't quite understand how its done. If u can give me a demo using 10-20 numbers I'll implement it in NWR. For the averages.. not exactly sure what u meant. Averages of what? The Catagories not showing up, or showing up? Cheers.

QuoteDoes anyone have any good settings that they use with Never Winter.
My settings are as such.
Dozens: 7 9
Columns: 8 12
Lines: 30 40
Trio: 50 62
RnB: 7 12
HnL: 9 15
EnO: 16 21
Corners: 50 60
Splits: 57 84 (Not implemented yet)
Singles: 62 85 (Not implemented yet)
Progression is set to $50
Sometimes more.
I use $0.25c to play with.
I will see if I can find other casinos that have lower bet units.
And see how that goes.
Gives you more chance to win then.
I think the lowest is $0.10c or pence.
Will have a look and report back.

I would like to do some vids for Never Winter.
But it is not finished yet.
Let me know if you would like me to do some vids for it.
I did some for the other roulette program I use.
You can find them on youtube.
nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/profile?user=thomasgrant
Or you can see them at.
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/mmm-videos.html
Or
You can see me on TV.
nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/thomasgrant
or
nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/casinocash
If putting these links is inappropriate.
Then you can delete them.
Just wanted to show some of the vids that I have done.

What I do to get a good settings for the alarms, I let NWR AutoSpining for a few hours. NWR records all the numbers in freq.txt.
Then I go to go to 'Tools>Graphs>Freak Show' in NWR and calculate all the freakshows
(a FreakShow is the amount of times the Catagory didn't come up before it landed on it, eg. a Freakshow of 8 could be  when 1st 12 didn't come up for 8 times, then it landed on the 9th.) I check for the highest freakshow achived then set alarms to a bit lower so the progressions Im using can cover the highest freakshow. Alternatively I go to nolinks://random.org/ generate some numbers then paste it into freq.txt. NWR then calculates freakshows from them... its a bit faster than AutoSpinning for a few hours.. It gives the user a rough idea of how freakshow works.

Hey, yeh videos sound like a kl idea. If u want go ahead.

Not Sure I understand FreakShow.
Or how to use it.
Could you go into more depth on how to use this feature please.

As for the vids.
Still to many bugs to do a video series on it.
And not all the features are implemented.
I will send you a vid on all the bugs that I have found.
That way you can see what the problems are first hand.

Here is the first video of some of the bugs that I have found.

nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter/Bug1.html

Suggestions

Balance should be saved.
And currency.

Bugs.
Autotrack.
Total Spins: bug.
Keeps increasing when you press Autotrack.
Total spins has bugs.
Can not keep an accurate track of the spins.
Alarms
Screen goes funny.

Then Never winter froze.

QuoteNot Sure I understand FreakShow.
Or how to use it.
Could you go into more depth on how to use this feature please.

As for the vids.
Still to many bugs to do a video series on it.
And not all the features are implemented.
I will send you a vid on all the bugs that I have found.
That way you can see what the problems are first hand.

With the FreakShow graphs... it works kinda like this.
Say we let the casino spin 8 times and the following numbers come up: 1,35,17,15,17,9,8,24

The FreakShow result for Dozens would look like this:

 0: 4
 1: 1
 2: 2
 3: 0
 4: 1

The numbers on the left represent the FreakShow amounts, and the numbers on the right represent how many FreakShows there were for that amount. Taking the last line,  4: 1. This tells us that a FreakShow of 4 occured once.

That is, the number spinned from the casino did not land on a particular Dozen for 4 times, then on the 5th spin we got a hit.
So if we had set our Alarm settings at 0 and were using 4 progressions(eg, 1-1-2-3) it would seem that we would have had 7 wins (4+1+2) before reaching the end of our luck. This wouldn't nessesaraly be true. Again, FreakShow graph gives a rough-ish sketch.

From the result we can't tell when the FreakShow of 4 came. If it had come at the begining, we'd have been wiped out before even being able to bet. Looking at the raw data we know it didn't. But, if we had 10000+ spins, it'd get a bit more tedious.  From what I've seen, most high freakshow tend to fall between 22-28. Thou I've seen some has high as 33 on Dozens, that is.

The whole idea I had when creating NWR was to set the alarms real high and use bigger units. 10s or so. All I'd need would be 4-5 wins and I'd call it a night. If I set the alarms for Dozens to 25, and have 11 progressions. I'd be able to beat a FreakShows of up to 35. Which, well I haven't seen yet on live numbers.
 
 Thou, interestingly, I've made a RNG and calculated what was the highest freakshow on Dozens for a billion spins. Curiousity I guess. Turns out its 52. Took me over 3 hours to calculate and have only done it once. I know one couldn't really count that as a fare test .. but yeh.
 
Anyway, Peace :)
-Tiago2

QuoteHere is the first video of some of the bugs that I have found.

nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter/Bug1.html

Suggestions

Balance should be saved.
And currency.

Bugs.
Autotrack.
Total Spins: bug.
Keeps increasing when you press Autotrack.
Total spins has bugs.
Can not keep an accurate track of the spins.
Alarms
Screen goes funny.

Then Never winter froze.

Worked on NWR a bit tonight. Cheers for reporting the bugs. Fixed a few...

Freezes,
Balance/WinLoss
TotalSpins

Its late here, gonna sleep... nite nite all. Here's a a quick update, Just add it it to NWR directory...
> nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/...../NWRv042.rar.html <

Ok, thanks for the update.
Seems to work a little better now.
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.thomasrgrant.com%2Fneverwinter%2FFormTrack.jpg&hash=e4d3781c4d1bc1e62b1ef6763993b16e6b21e777)
This is a screen shot of your FormTrack window.
You can see that the splits and corners are the same.
FreakShow does not seem to work in this version.
I click calculate and it starts the process but nothing happens.

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.thomasrgrant.com%2Fneverwinter%2Ffreak1.jpg&hash=0e1b206c7823106b3d5574ed925558882aa21aaa)
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.thomasrgrant.com%2Fneverwinter%2Ffreak2.jpg&hash=758659f9a776908008df50eacc10c079aa817510)

This is what happened in the previous version.
Is this what it is supposed to do?
Anyway.
Things are going well.

Lol, haha yeh the splits I was just starting to implement. Forgot to remove unfinished work for a public release. Lol I musta been really tired last night.... I'll release a quick update shortly

QuoteLol, haha yeh the splits I was just starting to implement. Forgot to remove unfinished work for a public release. Lol I musta been really tired last night.... I'll release a quick update shortly

Great,
I have been playing with AutoBet.
Just sit back and watch it play.
I usually go for $10
And have a $50 limit.
Seems to do ok.
Testing out in fun mode for the moment.
But will do live real testing in real money mode as soon as I have a few $$$ to spare.
Just using $0.25c as my bet unit.
I have let it go and seem to get to $50 just before the tool runs out of AutoBet time.
Another strange thing.
I have all the boxes ticked.
Dozens. Corners etc.
When playing, NW picks one of the sections to bet on.
As it should.
Sometimes you can be lucky and it will have a run on lets say, corners.
Now you may see that your dozens or columns have reached 20 while it is placing bets on the corners.
And if it wins a bet on the corners and there is a 20 miss on the dozens.
It will place a bet there for you.
This is a matter of luck I think.
I have seen it go to 27 before hitting a dozen.
And depending on where you have your tolerance set to.
You could lose a fair bit.
It is all in the game.
Great program though.
Any news on singles?
And or splits?
See if you can figure out why the Feakshow does not work in this version.
Thanks again for listening.

Hmmm
Now this is strange.
I can play with AutoBet on Fun mode.
That works fine.
Plays away and does its thing.
Now when I go to play for real with real money.
The AutoBet does not work.
Here is a video of me playing in fun mode then real mode.

nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter/autobet1.html

Jan 21/08
Real numbers in a real play.
Played today.
Deposited $60
Stop at $26 Loss of $34

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Ahh I see.
I think I am getting the hang of this.
After loosing some money in my previous post.
(I was down $34)
I decided to increase the alarm settings.
I had them set to
Dozens: 7 9
Columns: 8 12

It seems that when playing for real.
Against real Playtech RNG.
If you set the alarms just high enough.
You can still play.
And make a few extra dollars.
Hmm.
More on this as I continue.

QuoteAhh I see.
I think I am getting the hang of this.
After loosing some money in my previous post.
(I was down $34)
I decided to increase the alarm settings.
I had them set to
Dozens: 7 9
Columns: 8 12

It seems that when playing for real.
Against real Playtech RNG.
If you set the alarms just high enough.
You can still play.
And make a few extra dollars.
Hmm.
More on this as I continue.

I would stay away from rng mate, you are asking for trouble.

Worked a bit more on NWR today.

Bugs fixed

AutoBet Freezing up in RealMoney mode. (Haven't tested it yet, but I think it should work. Let me know if bug is still there)
A few other stuff here and there...

Features Added.

Added support to test FreakShows with NWR own RNG :D.
And Splits and Singles have been implemented.

> nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/85331801/NWRv045.rar.html <

Oh BTW, anyone know of a good free webhosting site because I searched for hours and didn't come to much.

I just did a search.

nolinks://nolinks.50megs.com/

nolinks://nolinks.doteasy.com/

Hope that helps,

Quote
Another strange thing.
I have all the boxes ticked.
Dozens. Corners etc.
When playing, NW picks one of the sections to bet on.
As it should.
Sometimes you can be lucky and it will have a run on lets say, corners.
Now you may see that your dozens or columns have reached 20 while it is placing bets on the corners.
And if it wins a bet on the corners and there is a 20 miss on the dozens.
It will place a bet there for you.
This is a matter of luck I think.
Thanks again for listening.

No Proplem... I get what u mean about the missing the other bet pottentials.. its like arg! especialy when the other one wins and not the one u're betting at. It is a bit of luck to get the winning one.
NWR, ATM, only takes over one bet at a time. So if there were two bet potetianls, NWR would bet on the first one that came up, and wont bet on another catagory until there was a win. Its a bit safer, cause if neither of the catagories being betted on came up... ur bankroll would go down twice as fast... thou on the other hand, if both bets won, u'd get twice as much :).
Multiple betting is not yet release I know, still working on it, still buggy as of now, I'd say its about %70 complete.

But anyway, a bit of interesting news. I was testing it a bit early today with preset 'sniper' setting for alarms. Had NWR to allow a maximum of 10 simulateous bets. Catagories all checked. Pregressions were set for a bankroll of £2000. Anyway at first the Loss tended to steep down very rapidly, went down to -£150 in the first 5 minutes cause of all the progressions going on. Then in the next 10 minutes, all the bets started winning and I ended up at +£300. Play For Fun mode ofcourse, lol. It was cool to watch. Ofcourse, a bit unrealistic thou to be done in Real Money mode with the maximum bet allowed being at £150, that is in bet365 casino. Dunno about the other ones... £2000 is alot of money, even if it were posible...the smarter side of me wouldn't allow me to risk it. But i'd love too, just for the thrill  [smiley=happy.gif] lol

Well I am back up.
Thanks for the update.
Works well.
Tried the singles.
They work just fine.
Spotted a bug.
In the singles.
The FormTrack does not count 0 zeros.
The zero is not counted.

I started at $60
I went down to $34
Now I am up $78
Fortune favors the brave.

An idea for the FormTrack.
Any way to make the items like single, splits dragable separate windows?

The FormTrack makes a lot more sense to me than the Freak Show.
I can see what the missing numbers are and judge from there what my settings are.
Anyway, great job.
[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

QuoteWell I am back up.
Thanks for the update.
Works well.
Tried the singles.
They work just fine.
Spotted a bug.
In the singles.
The FormTrack does not count 0 zeros.
The zero is not counted.

I started at $60
I went down to $34
Now I am up $78
Fortune favors the brave.

An idea for the FormTrack.
Any way to make the items like single, splits dragable separate windows?

The FormTrack makes a lot more sense to me than the Freak Show.
I can see what the missing numbers are and judge from there what my settings are.
Anyway, great job.
[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Lol, I just stuck it up and there u already spotted one. U're good. lol. Glad u're catching these bugs. Checked the code quickly, just a quick skim. As far as I can tell it is being tracked internally, just not being updated in the GUI. I'll get that fixed. Simple things lol. And hey, yeh I'll try to get the FormTrack to be a bit more user friendly. I actutally was thinking of making dragable windows type stuff. if not that, I'll come up with something. Lol, Im going to write a help file for NWR, in it I'll explain everything in depth, maybe then u'll realise the power of the freakshow. haha. But hey what ever works for u. And im glad u're in the Green right now mate. Keep up the good work. And may u win MiLlIoNs  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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Another strange thing.
I have all the boxes ticked.
Dozens. Corners etc.
When playing, NW picks one of the sections to bet on.
As it should.
Sometimes you can be lucky and it will have a run on lets say, corners.
Now you may see that your dozens or columns have reached 20 while it is placing bets on the corners.
And if it wins a bet on the corners and there is a 20 miss on the dozens.
It will place a bet there for you.
This is a matter of luck I think.
Thanks again for listening.

No Proplem... I get what u mean about the missing the other bet pottentials.. its like arg! especialy when the other one wins and not the one u're betting at. It is a bit of luck to get the winning one.
NWR, ATM, only takes over one bet at a time. So if there were two bet potetianls, NWR would bet on the first one that came up, and wont bet on another catagory until there was a win. Its a bit safer, cause if neither of the catagories being betted on came up... ur bankroll would go down twice as fast... thou on the other hand, if both bets won, u'd get twice as much :).
Multiple betting is not yet release I know, still working on it, still buggy as of now, I'd say its about %70 complete.

But anyway, a bit of interesting news. I was testing it a bit early today with preset 'sniper' setting for alarms. Had NWR to allow a maximum of 10 simulateous bets. Catagories all checked. Pregressions were set for a bankroll of £2000. Anyway at first the Loss tended to steep down very rapidly, went down to -£150 in the first 5 minutes cause of all the progressions going on. Then in the next 10 minutes, all the bets started winning and I ended up at +£300. Play For Fun mode ofcourse, lol. It was cool to watch. Ofcourse, a bit unrealistic thou to be done in Real Money mode with the maximum bet allowed being at £150, that is in bet365 casino. Dunno about the other ones... £2000 is alot of money, even if it were posible...the smarter side of me wouldn't allow me to risk it. But i'd love too, just for the thrill  [smiley=happy.gif] lol

Yeah, I started with Snipper settings.
I used them as a base line.
Seem to do ok sometimes.
Then it all goes downhill.
I am playing for real in real mode with real money.
Just no fun in fun mode. LOL...
When do figure on setting up the win/loss settings?
I know you have it set to stop if you lose on the alarm progressions.
But no settings to stop when you have reached your target.
I'd like to set it to $10 or there abouts.
Do 5 rounds.
And I have covered my bet.
Close down, and start again.
Some say that Playtech RNG is rigged.
Well lets just see.
Keep you posted on my account and any other bugs.

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Yeah, I started with Snipper settings.
I used them as a base line.
Seem to do ok sometimes.
Then it all goes downhill.
I am playing for real in real mode with real money.
Just no fun in fun mode. LOL...
When do figure on setting up the win/loss settings?
I know you have it set to stop if you lose on the alarm progressions.
But no settings to stop when you have reached your target.
I'd like to set it to $10 or there abouts.
Do 5 rounds.
And I have covered my bet.
Close down, and start again.
Some say that Playtech RNG is rigged.
Well lets just see.
Keep you posted on my account and any other bugs.

Lol, I guess there isn't really anyway to tell weather its rigged or not. But I did have a few disturbing experiences with PlayTech's RNG. Hmm...

But on a different note entirely... Win/Loss settings I'll try and have up on the next update. Must make sure that the Balance is working properly first, thats why I've been holding back on coding that bit. With all the Balance bugs that there were, its alot better now... it may still be inacurate at times. Maybe... haven't seen it yet. But haven't had much time to test... been busy coding for a few hours now. Small test of 5 - 10 minutes here and there. Let me know if catch the balance in NWR still wandering from the true balance. Cheers mate :)

Hi Tiago2,

thanks for sharing the software.  Before I go test it all out, would like to seek your advice.

Is it possible to use your software at this casino? (Live Roulette site)

CasinoWebCam.com

?

:)
BobbyBobby

The amount is still out of wack.
Not by much.
Seems to be a problem from loss then win.
Gets it's numbers mixed up.
If you are on a loosing streak.
And you win one.
That is where the problem is. I think.
Plus after long play.
It seems to get the numbers wrong as well.
As for the freak show.
Why do you have 0 again?
And what is the Internal RNG Amount?
How do we use it?
What is the F5 Count:?
Error on importing or reading saved numbers into feakshow.
(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.thomasrgrant.com%2Fneverwinter%2Ffreak-error.jpg&hash=b7221fb5ed2ed5666a2831b74a54eb8be8f1816a)

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QuoteI am not sure if this is a bug or not.
After test, it should show the averages.
And this could then be set as your betting alerts.
Perhaps even dynamic alerts could be implemented in future versions.
As you play. It calculates the averages.
And if you have dynamic alerts set.
It could then change the alerts after every 50 or 100 spins.
According to the averages.
Or something like that.

Hey that sounds like a good idea, just don't quite understand how its done. If u can give me a demo using 10-20 numbers I'll implement it in NWR. For the averages.. not exactly sure what u meant. Averages of what? The Catagories not showing up, or showing up? Cheers.

Averages.
Ok so we have freak show.
And we have the excellent FormTrack window.
Now lets say we are playing and we are up to 100 spins.
NW pauses for a second.
Does a calculation on the occurrences of say dozens.
It sees that the maximum was 24 and the min is 2.
The most hit times was say 8.
So every 8 times the dozens was hit.
This could then be set as your dynamic.
Not sure that explains it very well.
May have to think more about it.

Another idea would be to have a
"Based on current settings window"
You could have it run in the back ground.
Or do it as a test.
The idea being.
As you play.
Based on the current settings.
You could see what method would of one you the most or lost you the most.
I see that you have Strategy.
Perhaps this is where a Based on current settings would go.
Not sure.
Just an idea.
I am sure you have lots of them.

Any idea when you can increase the Auto Bet from 30m to 1hr?
This would be especially great for getting those high alarm settings.
If you have them set to high.
You may end up not betting at all for a whole 30m.

Single number seems to be the hardest to crack.
160 or 190+ of spins before you see the number pop up.
And then when you start to bet on it.
Hmmm
Good fun to watch.

Real RNG can be a bugger to play with.
I know many people that play with a live dealer online.
And say it is far better.
Some say that they have cracked the RNG code.

Me, I just like to play.
And have some fun.
Win some. Lose some.
That is the way the cookie crumbles.

Has anyone used Roulette Xtreme?
I am considering purchasing it.
Perhaps I could implement it with NW.

QuoteHi Tiago2,

thanks for sharing the software.  Before I go test it all out, would like to seek your advice.

Is it possible to use your software at this casino? (Live Roulette site)

CasinoWebCam.com

?

:)
BobbyBobby

Yup. AutoTrack is the feature u'd want to use with it. U will have to make a new casino configuration first thou.

QuoteHas anyone used Roulette Xtreme?
I am considering purchasing it.
Perhaps I could implement it with NW.

They have a 30 day trial. Tried it in the past and was impressed. Its a good piece of software. Great for analysing systems before bringing them to the table.  

Hi, how can I make a new casino configuration please?

thanks  :)


BobbyBobby


Yup. AutoTrack is the feature u'd want to use with it. U will have to make a new casino configuration first thou.
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QuoteHi Tiago2,

thanks for sharing the software.  Before I go test it all out, would like to seek your advice.

Is it possible to use your software at this casino? (Live Roulette site)

CasinoWebCam.com

?

:)
BobbyBobby

Yup. AutoTrack is the feature u'd want to use with it. U will have to make a new casino configuration first thou.

Here ya go. The capture part might take a while for u to complelete...

nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/83254325/Casino_Config.wmv.html.

Hi Tiago2,

Autobet  it is only for 30 minutes and does not always work?

30 min yeh. AutoBet is still being tested... bugs still need to be fixed... :-/

Quote30 min yeh. AutoBet is still being tested... bugs still need to be fixed... :-/

I have tested out AutoBet on two casinos.
Works ok.
Some small amount totals still out of wack.
But overall. I am very happy.
Once version 1 is released, I will do some vids for it.
May even do a live presentation on my TV station.

Progression fault.
1. Set Chip amount to $25
2. Set for Singles.
3. Turn of "Set for all Categories."
4. Set bankroll to $300
You should have 12 steps.
Now I was looking at this and thinking.
Hang on.
I want the maximum bet on a singles to be $300
Not a bankroll to spend of $300
When you are doing testing you would want to play in fun mode.
And see what the maximums are for each bet.
For each Casino
The standard for most of then on singles is $300
You would have the stop loss set in.
Not the bankroll that dictates the outcome.
The alarms are there so that if you set the maximum bet to play on singles.
That means it should put as it's end bet or end progression the maximum bet.
This only applies for high end bets.
And those that are crazy enough to try it.
But even if you have set it to $5 or $1
The progression would still be out.
The only way to get around this at the moment.
Is to put in the maximum bet allowed on the single. $300
And set it to $0.25c
Then select the $25 chip.
And play.

Clever, I hadn't thought of that. I'll try to add a maximum bet allowed feature for next release. Cheers dude
But for now...It is already possible to define progression yourself, incase u didn't know. One does not have to relly on NWR progression making. U can manually input numbers urself. Just click on a cell in the grid and change the numbers.  Or let NWR make the progression then delete the ones u don't want. Watever works best..
 

Hello Tiago,
Which is the latest update for this software? I downloaded a version earlier but probably was some bug because it didnt' work. Maybe I go for a new try. Laid this on-line play back for a while but could be interesting again.
Thanks!

Latest update atm is v0.4.5. U can download it by visiting the website found in my signature.
-----> nolinks://nolinks.nwr.ifastnet.com/ <---------------. Future updates will also be uploaded there.  

QuoteLatest update atm is v0.4.5. U can download it by visiting the website found in my signature.
-----> nolinks://nolinks.nwr.ifastnet.com/ <---------------. Future updates will also be uploaded there.  

Thats the one I have.
In the next version have you fixed the single error on zero?

Yup, single zero is fixed already. Once I finish coding a few more stuff I'll be release again. If u happen to come by more bugs please let me know and I'll have them fixed aswell. Cheers  

QuoteYup, single zero is fixed already. Once I finish coding a few more stuff I'll be release again. If u happen to come by more bugs please let me know and I'll have them fixed aswell. Cheers  

That is great news.
Can you have the save to save the alarm settings and amounts that we put in please.
What are you going to do with the designer.?

U can use file>save, that will save progressions and alarms. For designer Im thinking of making a non-programmers way for one to be able to make their own systems. NWR uses a progression system for betting and all that. Once Designer is complete a user will be able to make their own system for them to use. As well as share them with other users...

QuoteU can use file>save, that will save progressions and alarms. For designer Im thinking of making a non-programmers way for one to be able to make their own systems. NWR uses a progression system for betting and all that. Once Designer is complete a user will be able to make their own system for them to use. As well as share them with other users...

Yes it will save progressions and alarms.
But it does not save the amounts that you put in.
So if I put in $300 into the progression.
And save it. Next time I load.
The $300 should still be there.
But it is not.
That means that every time I load the program.
I have to input the amounts into the progression.
It also does not save your settings for randomize or Configure all categories.

Will the designer over wright the Alarms that you have?
What sort of code will it use?
How will it work?

Chips.
In Never Winter you can set the co ords for the game that you are playing.
How come you don't have the chips set as well?
This will reduce the time it takes to put a bet down.
So have the coords for each chip.
Just a suggestion.

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Yes it will save progressions and alarms.
But it does not save the amounts that you put in.
So if I put in $300 into the progression.
And save it. Next time I load.
The $300 should still be there.
But it is not.
That means that every time I load the program.
I have to input the amounts into the progression.
It also does not save your settings for randomize or Configure all categories.

Will the designer over wright the Alarms that you have?
What sort of code will it use?
How will it work?

Oh see, yeh I can add savings for those areas aswell.
With the designer, well,... I don't want it to be like Roulette Xtreme where it has its own programming language to make systems. More like... well, something that is sorta like what I want, can be found in 'The Games Factory'. > nolinks://nolinks.clickteam.com/eng/tgf2.php <. Simple serious of event and triggers that controlls the software. Not really sure how Im gonna make it, its not something im concentrating too much atm.

QuoteChips.
In Never Winter you can set the co ords for the game that you are playing.
How come you don't have the chips set as well?
This will reduce the time it takes to put a bet down.
So have the coords for each chip.
Just a suggestion.

I've been trying to come up with ideas on making NWR seems more 'Human Like'. Nice idea dude.

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QuoteChips.
In Never Winter you can set the co ords for the game that you are playing.
How come you don't have the chips set as well?
This will reduce the time it takes to put a bet down.
So have the coords for each chip.
Just a suggestion.

I've been trying to come up with ideas on making NWR seems more 'Human Like'. Nice idea dude.

Great,
I sure do like it, when some of my ideas are taken and implemented.
Any idea on when you are going to release the next version?
So I can start testing it.

Win/Loss
I was testing out NW with $5 chips.
And put in $5000 as my balance.
Now when NW starts to have a good win streak.
The win/loss seems ok and the amounts seem to add up.
But it seems to go haywire when you have a losing streak.
Sometimes it wont count the win.
And it stays in the red, despite winning the round.
I will see if I can record it for you.

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Great,
I sure do like it, when some of my ideas are taken and implemented.
Any idea on when you are going to release the next version?
So I can start testing it.

Estimated time I'd say one or two weeks. Maybe less thou. Depends alot on how much time I'll get to work at it

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Great,
I sure do like it, when some of my ideas are taken and implemented.
Any idea on when you are going to release the next version?
So I can start testing it.

Estimated time I'd say one or two weeks. Maybe less thou. Depends alot on how much time I'll get to work at it

How is it going?
Can we get a look at what you have done soon?
I'd like to start doing some vids for it.

Alot (code wise) is being changed/Moved/rewritten in NWR, mainly because of Designer. GUI, yeh there will be some straight away noticeble changes.
And from the next release NWR will NOT JUST be software for online casinos. Yup, the AUTOs will be getting a sibling. I'll be releasing hopefully, this weekend or sometime next week.  Cheers for the support  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

QuoteAlot (code wise) is being changed/Moved/rewritten in NWR, mainly because of Designer. GUI, yeh there will be some straight away noticeble changes.
And from the next release NWR will NOT JUST be software for online casinos. Yup, the AUTOs will be getting a sibling. I'll be releasing hopefully, this weekend or sometime next week.  Cheers for the support  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Great,
Looking forward to it.
I did try it with 888.com
But it did not seem to work.
Perhaps it was because it is not playtech.
Who knows.
Some have asked if it works on live casinos.
Like DublinBet.
Not sure it will.
But who knows.
Let me know when you have finished.
So I can start doing some vids for it.

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Great,
Looking forward to it.
I did try it with 888.com
But it did not seem to work.
Perhaps it was because it is not playtech.
Who knows.
Some have asked if it works on live casinos.
Like DublinBet.
Not sure it will.
But who knows.
Let me know when you have finished.
So I can start doing some vids for it.

Im working on a fix for 888.com casino. Its not because it isn't playtech it doesn't work. Its got to do with the spin button not reapearing as soon as the number is spinned. NWR clicks too soon before the spin button is there, then waits for the numbers to change... which well.. it doesnt. lol. AutoTrack should work with 888.com thou.
On the upcoming release one will be able to manually input numbers themself. Giving live casino lovers a chance to try out NWR in their element :D. Thou they'd have to be there to manually input the bets. Which just gave me a new idea this very second, lol, maybe give AutoTrack the ability to place bets...hmm...yeh... I like it... :D. Making it an automatic procedure, if the user would choose to.
Hey, I'll let u know the minute I finish NWR and deem the new implemented features bug-free to my best knowledge.  Looking forward to watching ur vids dude.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Tiago2 - Not bad for a junior member!

Can I have a look at the code?

What language is it written in?

QuoteTiago2 - Not bad for a junior member!

Can I have a look at the code?
What language is it written in?

Lol, well thanks new commer :P. NWR is written in Delphi, and sorry, u can not,  the code is private.
Are u a Delphi programmer by any chance?

I've "played around" with a lot of languages but
my programming skills stopped at FoxPro2 (c. 1992)
when MS bought it.  Have looked at Delphi but wasn't
too impressed.  After seeing NW I'll have to reconsider.

Thought I'd seen a reference to "open source" code
somewhere but no problem.

With progs. so big these days I was surprised to see
that you packed so much into such a small file!

Could you make the betting systems you use "open
source"?  What bets are made and why etc?
I might be able to contribute some ideas if you're interested.

I note that NW doesn't show currency in $.  Not that it
makes any difference but a choice.....

QuoteI've "played around" with a lot of languages but
my programming skills stopped at FoxPro2 (c. 1992)
when MS bought it.  Have looked at Delphi but wasn't
too impressed.  After seeing NW I'll have to reconsider.

Thought I'd seen a reference to "open source" code
somewhere but no problem.

With progs. so big these days I was surprised to see
that you packed so much into such a small file!

Could you make the betting systems you use "open
source"?  What bets are made and why etc?
I might be able to contribute some ideas if you're interested.

I note that NW doesn't show currency in $.  Not that it
makes any difference but a choice.....

You can find the source for NWR up to 2.5.1. After that I stopped doing open source.
Lol, btw, It is possible to change the currency symbol. I haven't yet written a help file for NWR. Have to do that soon. Just click where ur balance is displayed (underneath the numbers box) and it will bring up a new window. U can change the £ to $ from there.
And for the way NWR bets... well I'll  include a chapter in the futute help file explaining it. Hopefully soon.
Hey, yeh Im interested, any ideas u have that will make NWR better im happy to hear. Weather, ways of making it more user friendly or adjustments to its betting behaviour or watever. Let me know, and I'll see about implementing them.

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Great,
Looking forward to it.
I did try it with 888.com
But it did not seem to work.
Perhaps it was because it is not playtech.
Who knows.
Some have asked if it works on live casinos.
Like DublinBet.
Not sure it will.
But who knows.
Let me know when you have finished.
So I can start doing some vids for it.

Im working on a fix for 888.com casino. Its not because it isn't playtech it doesn't work. Its got to do with the spin button not reapearing as soon as the number is spinned. NWR clicks too soon before the spin button is there, then waits for the numbers to change... which well.. it doesnt. lol. AutoTrack should work with 888.com thou.
On the upcoming release one will be able to manually input numbers themself. Giving live casino lovers a chance to try out NWR in their element :D. Thou they'd have to be there to manually input the bets. Which just gave me a new idea this very second, lol, maybe give AutoTrack the ability to place bets...hmm...yeh... I like it... :D. Making it an automatic procedure, if the user would choose to.
Hey, I'll let u know the minute I finish NWR and deem the new implemented features bug-free to my best knowledge.  Looking forward to watching ur vids dude.  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Fantastic.
Never Winter will one great program.
Something that you can set up and use on just about any casino program.
Anyway, as I said, looking forward to seeing the next version.
Once you have done the next version, I will be doing a live presentation in my new Roulette TV room.
nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/roulette
Plus posting vids on my site and on youtube.
So when you are ready.
I would like to get cracking as soon as I can.

Anything yet?
How is the programing going?
I had a few other ideas that I would like to share with you.

In a previous post I asked if you could have the items in the track window open up in there separate windows.
At the moment the Track window is going from top to bottom.
How about from left to right?
Plus pleas add in a destop save feature. That can remember the window positions of each and every window.
In the track window you dont have the Dozens, columns, How about adding them to the track window?
The other idea I had was for a graph of some sorts.
You have one in your freak show.
But I was thinking of something different.
I will see if I can do some graphics for you to show you what I mean.
Anyway.
Hope to see the new version soon.

Programming is going stedily. I was hoping to make a release this weekend but haven't had time yet to finish it all. So yeh...So far new features have been added to the way NWR handles the ends of progression, instead of just giving u a warning saying the progressions have ended, it can now loop progression aswell as forgo them... I'll explain more when I release. It opens many new ways of configuring NWR betting. Apart from that there are new features for testing alarms and progression settings before actually using them at the casino.... to name a few. next release will most likely push NWR to v0.5.5 or possibly v0.6. I'll keep u all posted on the progress...

QuoteProgramming is going stedily. I was hoping to make a release this weekend but haven't had time yet to finish it all. So yeh...So far new features have been added to the way NWR handles the ends of progression, instead of just giving u a warning saying the progressions have ended, it can now loop progression aswell as forgo them... I'll explain more when I release. It opens many new ways of configuring NWR betting. Apart from that there are new features for testing alarms and progression settings before actually using them at the casino.... to name a few. next release will most likely push NWR to v0.5.5 or possibly v0.6. I'll keep u all posted on the progress...

That is great news.
I just deposited some cash into my casino account.
And started playing with 0.45
Works better than I had expected.
Up $20
Would like to see how much I can make with the new version.
PS.
I have set up a nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter site.
So I can do some live demonstrations of this program.
Ready to start doing some vids and some live interactive shows.
So looking forward to your release.
PPS:
Not much on the nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter site as yet.
Just got it up.
So keep an eye on it.
As I will update it regularly.

Haha, nice :D I like it. I've got alot going on till friday. After that i'll get some time to work on NWR. Loving the site dude, and I can't wait to see the live-demonstration. Fingers crossed for it to be a winning one :D, and all our hard work in NWR will have been worth it.  

QuoteHaha, nice :D I like it. I've got alot going on till friday. After that i'll get some time to work on NWR. Loving the site dude, and I can't wait to see the live-demonstration. Fingers crossed for it to be a winning one :D, and all our hard work in NWR will have been worth it.  

Well it seems to be working for me.
And I only have the v0.45

I have updated the page.

nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter

Looks cool.

So hard to find graphics that can describe Never Winter.
I mean. Never Winter, would mean that there is always summer...
Hmmm
Have you thought of a name change?
Then again.. maybe not.
After all, I just set up the .TV page.

[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Lol, funny u should ask that. I have actually been thinking of a new name for NWR. If I do change it, it will be to celebrate v1, whenever that will be complete. Lil story behind how NWR came around.
When first starting to code NWR. i created a folder to hold all the programming files. Had called it Roulette. Then the code went bad, decided to start again, but didn't want to totally rewrite the code from scratch so I created a new folder... called that 'Real Roulette'... cause I can't have two folders with the exact same name together.
After a few days of coding, what was then 'Real Roulette' I got stumped. Code was hard to work with, and harder to expand with new features. But still some usefull bits in it. So ya created a new one, next folder was the first thing that came to my mind, Never Winter Roulette :D. And i've thought about the name, trying to find some meaningfull meaning to it, and well, never winter. Could mean no problems. Well winter is cold, expensises rise and its pretty much a drag the whole time. Never winter, well it be summer! Everything hunky-dory, and summer by roulette! Heaps of Chips piling in. Then once the millions are made... one would never feel the sting of winter ;). lol ..... ya, sweet lil metaphor no?  [smiley=grin.gif] lol
Anyway, NWR has come a long time since it's humble begining... below is when it was first being born. Very first hours of existance... kinda cute no? lol
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Lol...
Ahh the joys of programming.
Did some when I had the old Amiga.
I used CanDo
A great and easy program to use.
Anyway...
Waiting for a release.
Did you check out the site?
As for a Name...
How about
"Roulette Opus" as it covers all bets and systems.
"Opus Roulette"
Both names are free at the moment.
They are available.
DOMAIN NAME        STATUS        MORE INFO
rouletteopus.com      AVAILABLE
opusroulette.com      AVAILABLE

I like opusroulette my self...
Just an idea for a name.
Up to you.
I did a live show last night in my room.
Showing someone how to set it up.
As they were having some problems.
I could do some vids for the current version.
But I think it would be a waste of time.
As I am waiting for the next release.

If you like.
I could purchase the domains that are listed above.
And we could go into a joint venture.
Or you could get them yourself.
No fuss.
Whatever you decide is fine by me.
I reckon it is a great program.
[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

Any ETA on new version?

NWR v0.5.5 is now out to download. nolinks://nwr.ifastnet.com/. Readme.txt contains notes for this release. Its fairly new and not tested throughly yet,  if u encounter a bug please report it. Much appreciated. Cheers

BTW, its not mentioned in the Readme.txt, but to stop NWR AutoSpin/Bet etc, press F3 key.

QuoteLol...
Ahh the joys of programming.
Did some when I had the old Amiga.
I used CanDo
A great and easy program to use.
Anyway...
Waiting for a release.
Did you check out the site?
As for a Name...
How about
"Roulette Opus" as it covers all bets and systems.
"Opus Roulette"
Both names are free at the moment.
They are available.
DOMAIN NAME        STATUS        MORE INFO
rouletteopus.com      AVAILABLE
opusroulette.com      AVAILABLE

I like opusroulette my self...
Just an idea for a name.
Up to you.
I did a live show last night in my room.
Showing someone how to set it up.
As they were having some problems.
I could do some vids for the current version.
But I think it would be a waste of time.
As I am waiting for the next release.

If you like.
I could purchase the domains that are listed above.
And we could go into a joint venture.
Or you could get them yourself.
No fuss.
Whatever you decide is fine by me.
I reckon it is a great program.
[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

I'd like to open a website under my name thou. But im seriously tight on finances these days. Cheers for the offer. As of a Opus Roulette, ...-ish. Im gonna stick with NWR for now. Its kinda growing on me. lol. Hey, u've helped alot with NWR, how do u feel with me putting ur name on the Aboutbox? Its up too u. Lots of bug reports and testing with NWR aswell with ideas u've contributed, I say u deserve it dude  [smiley=thumbsup.gif].
Oh, let me know when u'll be doing the live show. I'll be sure to watch it live, looking forward to it dude  ::). Theres no help file yet for NWR, so if u've got any questions concerning checkboxes, buttons  or anything in NWR, ask away  [smiley=cool.gif]

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QuoteLol...
Ahh the joys of programming.
Did some when I had the old Amiga.
I used CanDo
A great and easy program to use.
Anyway...
Waiting for a release.
Did you check out the site?
As for a Name...
How about
"Roulette Opus" as it covers all bets and systems.
"Opus Roulette"
Both names are free at the moment.
They are available.
DOMAIN NAME        STATUS        MORE INFO
rouletteopus.com      AVAILABLE
opusroulette.com      AVAILABLE

I like opusroulette my self...
Just an idea for a name.
Up to you.
I did a live show last night in my room.
Showing someone how to set it up.
As they were having some problems.
I could do some vids for the current version.
But I think it would be a waste of time.
As I am waiting for the next release.

If you like.
I could purchase the domains that are listed above.
And we could go into a joint venture.
Or you could get them yourself.
No fuss.
Whatever you decide is fine by me.
I reckon it is a great program.
[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

I'd like to open a website under my name thou. But im seriously tight on finances these days. Cheers for the offer. As of a Opus Roulette, ...-ish. Im gonna stick with NWR for now. Its kinda growing on me. lol. Hey, u've helped alot with NWR, how do u feel with me putting ur name on the Aboutbox? Its up too u. Lots of bug reports and testing with NWR aswell with ideas u've contributed, I say u deserve it dude  [smiley=thumbsup.gif].
Oh, let me know when u'll be doing the live show. I'll be sure to watch it live, looking forward to it dude  ::). Theres no help file yet for NWR, so if u've got any questions concerning checkboxes, buttons  or anything in NWR, ask away  [smiley=cool.gif]

Thanks for the offer of putting my name in the About box.
Sure would be nice to have it there.
Could you include my website as well?
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com
I will add
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter
Soon.
As for finances.
Do you have a paypal account?
I could send you some money.

Early bugs.
Capture.
Odd behavior.
If you have the eye on.
I think depending on your pc.
If you leave the eye on.
This is what can happen.
When you press capture.
The black box that contains the number.
That has been captured.
Can go that odd brown color when you come to a number.
When you just click save.
On the first number.
It just stays at that number.
If you hit the return key on your keyboard instead of save.
Then it seems to work fine.
Sometimes.... lol
Odd behavior as I said.
Still no chip coords.
I thought you were going to add those in this version.
Config Casino.
Umm
888.com has no clear bet
Not that I know of any way.
Capture seems to have problems in 888 as well.
Looks like you have to manually spin the wheel.
And that can take some time.
Casino Config for OnlineCasino.
Had problems setting it up.
After I did a successful Casino Config.
And select OnlineCasino from the menu.
It keeps coming up "is not a valid interger value"
Hmmm, got it to work in the old version.
The old configs do not seem to work on this one.
This is just an early report.
On what I have found so far.

The eye.
In this and the old version.
I found that if you make the eye tall. As in increase its length.
And then decrease the eye width. To 20w.
Then activate the eye and select the right border.
And then move your mouse into the center of the 20w eye.
The red line will appear.
Just click and then it will stay.
Then all you need do is increase the width of the eye by increasing the + button on the width.
Odd though.
Is it seems to be fine in 888.com
Works well and the red line can be easily moved.
I reckon it has something to do with the window of the casino.
That it affects the eye.

Also window position.
When you first open NW.
Then move it to the desired position.
Then close it after your session.
It should remember the last window position.
And that goes for all the windows.

Track window.
Any news on having each section in separate windows?
And have Dozens and Columns in there as well?
AutoBet and AutoTrack should go together.
So I can see how I am going in freak show.
I am sure I can find a few more bugs as I go.
Thanks for the update.

As for an ebook of instructions.
I reckon I can do one for you.
I have all the tools here to do it.
And I have the forum to get notes from.
So I reckon I can put one together for you.

QuoteAlso window position.
Track window.
Any news on having each section in separate windows?

Its a bit sketchy but u can do it now, just click on the blue title on each individual category, eg Lines and it will created a new window with that category in it. Thou, once u create a new window u cannot get the category back in TrackForm window with restarting NWR...ya...its a bit sketchy, but it works...-ish

QuoteAs for an ebook of instructions.
I reckon I can do one for you.
I have all the tools here to do it.
And I have the forum to get notes from.
So I reckon I can put one together for you.

Cool! I'd owe u one. It shave alot of work off for me and i'd be able to use that time to code more in NWR. What format can u do it in? .chm, pdf?

Quote
Thanks for the offer of putting my name in the About box.
Sure would be nice to have it there.
Could you include my website as well?
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com
I will add
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter
Soon.
As for finances.
Do you have a paypal account?
I could send you some money.

Oh, kl :) That would be very helpfull. yeh.. cheers a whole bunch :). lol. I'll send u my paypal via pm messenging. Any sugestions where I could host NWR site?

Quote
Still no chip coords.
I thought you were going to add those in this version.
Config Casino.
Umm
888.com has no clear bet
Not that I know of any way.
Capture seems to have problems in 888 as well.
Looks like you have to manually spin the wheel.
And that can take some time.
Casino Config for OnlineCasino.
Had problems setting it up.
After I did a successful Casino Config.
And select OnlineCasino from the menu.
It keeps coming up "is not a valid interger value"

I originaly was planning to add support for chips coord on this.  But Im gonna redo Casino Config, making it simpler for a user to configure and understand the process. Sortoff a 'Wizard' type aproch to it. I'll be adding chip coord to that one.
When configuring 888.com u must enable the 888 checkbox and click the Get button. Also, during the process u cannot move your mouse, u must leave it over the 888's spin button's area for NWR to keep clicking.
Oh yeh, you will have to redo all configuration for NWRv055. Don't try loading old configurations. I added one more category (Line 0-1. ie street bet 0, 1, 2, 3) which I had missed previously. Old configurations are missing this category... u'll get a error if u try loading them.
Lol, nicely noticed about the 888 not having a clearbet button. Umm... I'll add support for a left click bet, then a right click to erase the bet. Can't think of any other ways to clear bets in 888.....hmmm  

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Quote
Thanks for the offer of putting my name in the About box.
Sure would be nice to have it there.
Could you include my website as well?
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com
I will add
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter
Soon.
As for finances.
Do you have a paypal account?
I could send you some money.

Oh, kl :) That would be very helpfull. yeh.. cheers a whole bunch :). lol. I'll send u my paypal via pm messenging. Any sugestions where I could host NWR site?

I use Godaddy.
Have been with them for years.
Easy to use and good service.
I got my first domain name and hosted it there.
But you could go to NameCheap and get one from there as well.
For under $100 for 2 years.

PS: Sent you $20 as a start.

Quote

Quote
Thanks for the offer of putting my name in the About box.
Sure would be nice to have it there.
Could you include my website as well?
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com
I will add
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter
Soon.
As for finances.
Do you have a paypal account?
I could send you some money.

Oh, kl :) That would be very helpfull. yeh.. cheers a whole bunch :). lol. I'll send u my paypal via pm messenging. Any sugestions where I could host NWR site?

Working on a ebook cover now.
And then the contents.

Any idea as to why I get that error message when I use config to set up OnlineCasino?
The error was "is not a valid interger value"
That is what I get when I select OnlineCasino from the menu.

Still having problems with the Capture.
Even with the eye of.
It captures.
Then does its thing.
I start to enter the numbers that are in the black box that is under the OCR
And sometimes it gets stuck on the same number.
Then I have to redo capture again.

Stop loss seems to work ok.

Please send me as much info on Never Winter as you can.
Including how to use the Freak Show.
So I can start adding it to the ebook.
And then I can start doing some vids.
Then do some Live shows.

See if you get those bugs fixed.
Thanks for your time and effort.

This is the ebook cover so far.
Can change it, modify do lots of things.
Just let me know your ideas.
Can start again.
This is just the first draft that I have done.
Can do a box or CD's or Binder.
What ever you desire.

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.thomasrgrant.com%2Fneverwinter%2Fneverwinter-ebookcover-small.jpg&hash=2044b8c27ca917c5ea4096ccb145dd126707e19d)

Ok this is what the ebook will look like.
Well something like this anyway.
nolinks://nolinks.thomasrgrant.com/neverwinter/Never_Winter_Roulette.pdf

Track windows.
Ok got them to open up in separate windows.
I asked if you could also include Dozens and Columns.
I also asked if you could have the windows go from left to right.
So for instance you have the track window open and you have singles in a separate widow.
If you could move the window and resize it to go from left to right.
The read out or each number
Would look like this.
Number 0

• Number 1
• and so on until the width of the window then it would go down to the next line.
  So it would look like this.
  
  Number 0
• Number 1
• Number 2
• 
  Number 3
• Number 4
• Number 5
• 
  
  And so on.
  This feature could be for all the track windows.
  So you can position them on the screen where you can see what is going on.
  When you have Splits open in separate window.
  There is no scroll bar.
  In fact the only window that has a scroll bar is the singles.
  That is if you have them as separate windows.
  Also the window positions should be saved on exit.
  
  So to review.
  Bug in capture with OnlineCasino.
  And I suspect it has the same problem with other casinos as well.
  Once you save settings for the new casino.
  Then select it from the menu to play with.
  An error comes up.
  No clear bet in 888.com
  Capture seems to be very sluggish on 888.com
  

Save on exit.
Hmmm.
Does not save everything.
What does "Allow AutoTrack to make bets" do?
And this feature does not save on exit.
When you reload NW. It is not selected.
Does not save the amounts and the currency used.

AutoRNG.
What a riot.
This is one crazy tool.

Thank Tiago

Having trouble anyway:
- Reset need to close the program
- When I used the Auto-spin I was not forced to comply with the progressions "Progressions have not been set for dozens categories"
(I use a lot the Auto-spin and stop when I want to bet.)

[smiley=dankk2.gif]

So some more fine tunning.
Stopping the program.
Seems to not stop or pay attention to the panic key when playing in certain modes.
Reset does not seem to work.
Autoplay is good.
But had a problem stopping it.
You can use AutoPlay to test out the Alarms.
And use AutoRNG to also test out your alarms.
I think AutoRNG needs some work.
As it seem to go hay wire.
I am sure that I can find a few more things that go wrong.
But apart from that.
Works well as I can expect.
Needs lost of improvements.
How do I get freak show to work if it does not save the numbers?
Especially when playing in AutoBet mode.
Single Number in AutoRNG.
Wow had it miss number 36 for over 3000 spins.
Is this supposed to happen?

Tried setting up NW 0.55 with a PlayTech casino but
can't get the Eye divider line to show.

Any suggestions?

As above comment - had to re-start my computer
to get it to close.

Is the function to manually set co-ords working?

QuoteTried setting up NW 0.55 with a PlayTech casino but
can't get the Eye divider line to show.

Any suggestions?

As above comment - had to re-start my computer
to get it to close.

Is the function to manually set co-ords working?

Wow, alot of feedback, its late so I don't have time to reply to all the Q, will do tomorow thou. Easy one here bjb007. in Casino Config go to Eye > See-Through. Uncheck it, move the mouse over the eye, click and u'll have ur red line. Then just make it see-though again before capturing.
To capture coordinate u have to click record, then hold down the Ctrl key, on the second click it will start recording normally.
BTW, im working on a new Casino Config. Current one is well... I suppose not that user friendly. Coded a bit today, once I got the GUI finished its mostly copy pasting. :D. lol It'll look something like the following when its done
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Cheers Thomasgrant, got ur $20 u send me. I'll be getting a domain soon with it. Yea! Thanks a mil [smiley=grin.gif]

Thanks Tiago2.  Will give it a try.

Am I likely to have problems using two
monitors?  Should NW and the roulette
screen be on the same monitor?

Had a bit of trouble with keeping focus on
the roulette pic.

If I set up a casino will the config be transferable
to other users?  If so perhaps you'd like to post a
list of PlayTech casinos so we don't duplicate one
that's already been done by someone else.
And a place to post them on your new site.

QuoteSave on exit.
What does "Allow AutoTrack to make bets" do?

The whole idea behind "Allow AutoTrack to make bets" was to use NWR to place bets on cam live casinos. Making a configuration for one would be painfully long, I know. But once its done one could use this feature and NWR will track the numbers spinning and when it reaches the alarms it start betting like normal. You can try it with Bet365, enable AutoTrack with bets allowed, u can press 'spacebar' with Bet365 and it will spin the wheel. Sorta simulating a cam casino. AutoTrack will track the numbers, then place bets aswell when conditinos are right.

Quote
Cheers Thomasgrant, got ur $20 u send me. I'll be getting a domain soon with it. Yea! Thanks a mil [smiley=grin.gif]

Well maybe not enough to get a domain.
But it is a start.

Hi, love the software. Trying it out, had some problems with the autotrack but fount a good explaining vid that showed me exactly what to do. A good thing would be to save these vid's somewhere so that they are available all the time with some nice description. Just initially I have som problems with shutting down the software, could I be a vista problem? Will try it out late on and tell you what I find.
Excellent work guys. I think the new GUI for the Casino config will be great as well.

Keep up the good work all and I hope you may keep winning thomasgrant!

/Dennis

QuoteHi, love the software. Trying it out, had some problems with the autotrack but fount a good explaining vid that showed me exactly what to do. A good thing would be to save these vid's somewhere so that they are available all the time with some nice description. Just initially I have som problems with shutting down the software, could I be a vista problem? Will try it out late on and tell you what I find.
Excellent work guys. I think the new GUI for the Casino config will be great as well.

Keep up the good work all and I hope you may keep winning thomasgrant!

/Dennis

Will be doing a set of vids and ebook as soon as I can get a version that works well.
Well enough to win anyway.
Current version only seems to work on Bet365.
I have tried it with OnlineCasino and reported the problems.
Will be testing out on a Live wheel soon.
AutoBet is an excellent feature.
And AutoRNG.
They are both good,
You can test out you Alarms on them.
A suggestion I thought of.
Was to add more Alarm positions.
Instead of the 2 to pick from.
We could have 3 or 4 to randomize from.
So for example Dozens.
At the moment.
I have it set at 8 and 14
It would be great if I could set it at 7 9 11 and 14
And randomize from them.
Or if it could use some AI and pick the one it thinks would be best suited for the game.
I think AI would be to difficult to program.
And that is why I suggested the averages.
Just some ideas that I have come up with.
I have a few more ideas.
But will wait till an update is available.

Quote
A suggestion I thought of.
Was to add more Alarm positions.
Instead of the 2 to pick from.
We could have 3 or 4 to randomize from.
So for example Dozens.
At the moment.
I have it set at 8 and 14
It would be great if I could set it at 7 9 11 and 14
And randomize from them.

I thought the idea was that randomize picks a value (different each time the alarm triggers) between the lower and upper values. If randomize is off, it always uses the lower value. Am I correct?

Quote

QuoteSave on exit.
What does "Allow AutoTrack to make bets" do?

The whole idea behind "Allow AutoTrack to make bets" was to use NWR to place bets on cam live casinos. Making a configuration for one would be painfully long, I know. But once its done one could use this feature and NWR will track the numbers spinning and when it reaches the alarms it start betting like normal. You can try it with Bet365, enable AutoTrack with bets allowed, u can press 'spacebar' with Bet365 and it will spin the wheel. Sorta simulating a cam casino. AutoTrack will track the numbers, then place bets aswell when conditinos are right.

Not sure it will be possible to get AutoTrack to make bets on a live table.
Not sure it will work.
This is a screen shot of a live table in OnlineCasino.
As you can see there is no dealer in the window.
I think it may be my connection speed.
Or the version of Flash. That has some conflict issues.

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And this is a screen shot of a live table in Bet365.
Same as above. Could not get the dealer in the center.
Got it to work before. And now. It's just a blank screen.
As I said, it could be my internet connection.

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.thomasrgrant.com%2Fneverwinter%2Flive-365.jpg&hash=27e2a56ffaa87ffb57e3ffc78c29e54a10fb4f69)

Same table.
Same dealer.
Different color.

How would the software put the bets down?
You would have to set up coords for the live table.
Now this may be a bit more difficult than you think.
As the dealers are on a timer. To spin the wheel.
So if you are doing your coords and putting bets down to signal NW where to place the bets.
You could run out of time. And lose the money you just put on the table.
You could of course just use the two pictures that are here and do coords for the live game.
Then all we would have to do is load them up.
Maybe you could have a special menu for Live play.
And this where you could use that Designer. Or the freak show strategy.
The Designer is where you could put in your super splits.
Or Zero play in. Or any other system that works well for the player.
Not sure what your ideas are on the Designer as yet.

nolinkss://nolinks.dublinbet.com

You will need Jave to load DublinBet.

This is a screen shot of DublinBet live.

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Now how are you going to configure to play with AutoTrack?

My suggestion is to use these pictures and then do the coords for them.

Anyway.
Hope these pictures help in your next step in programming the Live part of the NW.
And I hope that you can figure out ways to make it work.

Quote

Quote
A suggestion I thought of.
Was to add more Alarm positions.
Instead of the 2 to pick from.
We could have 3 or 4 to randomize from.
So for example Dozens.
At the moment.
I have it set at 8 and 14
It would be great if I could set it at 7 9 11 and 14
And randomize from them.

I thought the idea was that randomize picks a value (different each time the alarm triggers) between the lower and upper values. If randomize is off, it always uses the lower value. Am I correct?

Umm I think so.
I leave randomize on.
And it always seems to pick the highest one first.

Hi, looks very good.
I've been thinking about how you guys could make it work for more sites and I ran across this site (nolinks://online[.]casinocity[.]com/software/) where you can see all the sites with the specific software.
I often play at sites using Net Entertainment where you can play without downloading any software, feels safe. All the sites which uses Net Entertainment have the exact same roulette layout.
I'm just wondering if Playtech look the same everywhere and if you then can use NWR on all the 34 sites (says 172 if you click on Playtech) and if its possible to make it work for Net Entertainment which is more used and where you don't have to download anything.
Could be a good idea to use those sites so that you can for example make only $20 on each sites and instead play on many sites for more protection against being noticed and banned IF we someone start making real money with this thing.
Hope this could be to any help.

Regards
/Dennis

PS. don't know if there are any rules against putting links in posts, thats why I posted it this way. DS

RNG vs LIVE...

Some players prefer to play live on a live table.
They think the odds a better.
And you can tell what the dealer is doing.
Now this may be true.
And I know a few people that do well with a live table.
They use super Splits and a few other methods.

Online Live vs Live real in casino play.
In a casino.
You again have more options.
You can actually put your bet down after the ball is in play.
This is different from Online Live play.
Where you put down the bet before the dealer spins.
And there lies the problem.
The dealers are in control.
If they are in a good mood.
Then you are more likely to win.
If they are in bad mood.
Then there goes your shirt.
The know how and where to place the ball.
So it lands a particular section.
Well the good dealers do anyway.
If you have novice.
Then the ball could go anywhere.
RNG
You are playing against a PC that has PlayTech.
And advanced algorithm that produces random numbers.
Now some will argue that this is rigged.
Or that the house know what your bank balance is.
And therefore you are more likely to loose.
If you do your research.
You find that Playtech is fair.
And uses RNG.
It is not linked to your accounts.
It is impersonal,
Some will argue that it has a code that can be broken.
Something like the Enigma code.
I very much doubt this.

Just remember the golden rule.

The house always wins.
Always wins.

QuoteHi, looks very good.
I've been thinking about how you guys could make it work for more sites and I ran across this site (nolinks://online[.]casinocity[.]com/software/) where you can see all the sites with the specific software.
I often play at sites using Net Entertainment where you can play without downloading any software, feels safe. All the sites which uses Net Entertainment have the exact same roulette layout.
I'm just wondering if Playtech look the same everywhere and if you then can use NWR on all the 34 sites (says 172 if you click on Playtech) and if its possible to make it work for Net Entertainment which is more used and where you don't have to download anything.
Could be a good idea to use those sites so that you can for example make only $20 on each sites and instead play on many sites for more protection against being noticed and banned IF we someone start making real money with this thing.
Hope this could be to any help.

Regards
/Dennis

PS. don't know if there are any rules against putting links in posts, thats why I posted it this way. DS

When he releases the next version.
I am sure that you can set it up to play on any casino.
Playtech.
Live casinos like Dublin Bet.
Net Entertainment and so on.

"I often play at sites using Net Entertainment"

Umm, maybe I should use jave for Betsson.
When to the site.
Had a look at the programs.
It asks if you want to play in Flash or Java.

Here is a large screen grab of NW next to Betssons Table.
Betsson is in Flash mode.
The number for the OCR may be difficult to capture in this one.
So you may need to manually enter them in.

(https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fnolinks.thomasrgrant.com%2Fneverwinter%2Fbetson.jpg&hash=0855aaab11fa5907f211f8719a1e18ac630218ff)

Hi, couldn't get it to work at Betsson either, using the Java version is not as good as the flash due to fewer options, no fast mode for instance.
A few bugs if its OK to tell you, maybe its just me.
When I try to change the amount in both "progression" window and in the "balance setting" window i get the message saying "´1.00´is not a valid floating point value" if I for instance choose $1.00. So I can only see the progression for $0.25 but the massage comes up when I put $0.25 as well.
Cant it be good to sett the minimum "win amount" for the progression as well, so that it doesn't go down to almost zero if you don't like it to.
Another question, why randomize the alarms? and is the alarms that are used to make settings for the AutoBet's, and then what does Forgo, Loop and Stop! do?

One quickie also, does all Playtech looks the same and have the same options?

Sorry but think I've found something else, what can be wrong, can it be my settings, but I did it with the RNG generator. Of a total spin of 838 I didn't hit 36 once and it continued for over 1000 before I stopped it. How can that be? Do you have the same problem?

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PlayTech sites are all basically the same except for
the graphics.

They all get their random numbers from PlayTech
so if one's "being difficult" it's likely that they all are.

With a lot of them the downloader (the first file you
get) might even have the same name so best to rename
it yourself to the particular casino.

PlayTech also gives a choice of where to install whereas
some others just put themselves on C: without asking,
something that I don't want or like.  Those usually end
up getting the heave-ho.

Good points: Fast mode and spins without bets.

Bad points: Easy to lose your $$$ if you're not careful.

Most important: bonuses usually don't apply to roulette
so check carefully as otherwise the bonus is an excuse
for them to keep your money longer.  Ask the cashier
to de-activate bonuses otherwise you'll get them by
default.

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A suggestion I thought of.
Was to add more Alarm positions.
Instead of the 2 to pick from.
We could have 3 or 4 to randomize from.
So for example Dozens.
At the moment.
I have it set at 8 and 14
It would be great if I could set it at 7 9 11 and 14
And randomize from them.

It may not have been clear how randomize works. U've got ur min and max,
 lets say min = 8
 and max      =14
if randomize is unchecked then NWR will wait for the counters to reach 8 every time before betting.
if randmozize is checked then after every win on category NWR will will pick a number between min and max. That is, in the above example a number between 8 and 14, ie 8,9,10,11,12,13 or 14 and set that as the categories alarm. I can add a option to ignore setting certain numbers in the randomizition as the alarm... give it a 8,9,10 or 14. Or whatever. Something for later maybe once NWR current bugs are rooted out.

QuoteHi, love the software. Trying it out, had some problems with the autotrack but fount a good explaining vid that showed me exactly what to do. A good thing would be to save these vid's somewhere so that they are available all the time with some nice description. Just initially I have som problems with shutting down the software, could I be a vista problem? Will try it out late on and tell you what I find.
Excellent work guys. I think the new GUI for the Casino config will be great as well.

Keep up the good work all and I hope you may keep winning thomasgrant!

/Dennis

Cheers dude, glad u like the software. About the videos, I will be constructing a site for NWR and there will be a section on tutorials and help, as well as other informative stuff. I'll let u all know when thats ready.

Quote
Will be doing a set of vids and ebook as soon as I can get a version that works well.
Well enough to win anyway.
Current version only seems to work on Bet365.
I have tried it with OnlineCasino and reported the problems.
Will be testing out on a Live wheel soon.

Lol, NWR has manily been tested on bet365 previously. Now aswell, Im testing it on casino-on-net aswell. If anyone is having dificulty get NWR with a different casino other that Playtech European wheel or casino-on-net. Let me know, and I'll try getting it to work on those aswell

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I thought the idea was that randomize picks a value (different each time the alarm triggers) between the lower and upper values. If randomize is off, it always uses the lower value. Am I correct?

Lol, didn't read ur post before posting the above explanation for Randomize. Yes, u are 100% correct. Nicely done :D

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Quote
Will be doing a set of vids and ebook as soon as I can get a version that works well.
Well enough to win anyway.
Current version only seems to work on Bet365.
I have tried it with OnlineCasino and reported the problems.
Will be testing out on a Live wheel soon.

Lol, NWR has manily been tested on bet365 previously. Now aswell, Im testing it on casino-on-net aswell. If anyone is having dificulty get NWR with a different casino other that Playtech European wheel or casino-on-net. Let me know, and I'll try getting it to work on those aswell

Well I did report that I was having problems with OnlineCasino.
Got that integer error message.

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Quote
A suggestion I thought of.
Was to add more Alarm positions.
Instead of the 2 to pick from.
We could have 3 or 4 to randomize from.
So for example Dozens.
At the moment.
I have it set at 8 and 14
It would be great if I could set it at 7 9 11 and 14
And randomize from them.

It may not have been clear how randomize works. U've got ur min and max,
 lets say min = 8
 and max      =14
if randomize is unchecked then NWR will wait for the counters to reach 8 every time before betting.
if randmozize is checked then after every win on category NWR will will pick a number between min and max. That is, in the above example a number between 8 and 14, ie 8,9,10,11,12,13 or 14 and set that as the categories alarm. I can add a option to ignore setting certain numbers in the randomizition as the alarm... give it a 8,9,10 or 14. Or whatever. Something for later maybe once NWR current bugs are rooted out.

That is way cool.
Did not realize that.
Thanks for pointing that out.

QuoteHi, couldn't get it to work at Betsson either, using the Java version is not as good as the flash due to fewer options, no fast mode for instance.
A few bugs if its OK to tell you, maybe its just me.
When I try to change the amount in both "progression" window and in the "balance setting" window i get the message saying "´1.00´is not a valid floating point value" if I for instance choose $1.00. So I can only see the progression for $0.25 but the massage comes up when I put $0.25 as well.
Cant it be good to sett the minimum "win amount" for the progression as well, so that it doesn't go down to almost zero if you don't like it to.
Another question, why randomize the alarms? and is the alarms that are used to make settings for the AutoBet's, and then what does Forgo, Loop and Stop! do?

One quickie also, does all Playtech looks the same and have the same options?

There's readme.txt that comes in the rar when u download NWR. Stop, Loop and Forgo are explained there. Concerning the "1.00 is not a valid floating point value" error, it happens because u're using a computer where the default decimal symbol is not '.'  . Im still working on rooting out this error... For the time being if u were to change ur Windows' decimal settings to '.' u wont get that error anymore with NWR. U can do that in the Windows' control panel somewhere.

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QuoteHi, love the software. Trying it out, had some problems with the autotrack but fount a good explaining vid that showed me exactly what to do. A good thing would be to save these vid's somewhere so that they are available all the time with some nice description. Just initially I have som problems with shutting down the software, could I be a vista problem? Will try it out late on and tell you what I find.
Excellent work guys. I think the new GUI for the Casino config will be great as well.

Keep up the good work all and I hope you may keep winning thomasgrant!

/Dennis

Cheers dude, glad u like the software. About the videos, I will be constructing a site for NWR and there will be a section on tutorials and help, as well as other informative stuff. I'll let u all know when thats ready.

Umm, did you see the ebook cover that I did?
And what about the questions regarding live play?
As for the vids.
If you have other ideas on doing them.
Then great.

Yeh dude, saw ur cover.. I like it... one coment thou, text is a bit -ish. A different style might be better.
Question's about Live casino... um I haven't got time to look back at the posts right now. In a bit of a hurry atm. But i'll look back and answer it.
BTW, there's a new release. casino configs will have to be remade again because the architechture has been changed. NWR has now got its own .cfg file for casino configurations. And a configuration should now work on all computers, unlike before. I haven't tested that yet, but if u're using playtech or casino-on-net try out the configuration that come in the NWR .rar file. Let me know if they work. Preferbly someone with vista. Im on a XP64bit. My vista crashed :(

nolinks://nwr.ifastnet.com/ <- Download v0.5.7

QuoteYeh dude, saw ur cover.. I like it... one coment thou, text is a bit -ish. A different style might be better.
Question's about Live casino... um I haven't got time to look back at the posts right now. In a bit of a hurry atm. But i'll look back and answer it.
BTW, there's a new release. casino configs will have to be remade again because the architechture has been changed. NWR has now got its own .cfg file for casino configurations. And a configuration should now work on all computers, unlike before. I haven't tested that yet, but if u're using playtech or casino-on-net try out the configuration that come in the NWR .rar file. Let me know if they work. Preferbly someone with vista. Im on a XP64bit. My vista crashed :(

nolinks://nwr.ifastnet.com/ <- Download v0.5.7

The cover was and is just an Idea.
As I said I can change any detail on it.
Or start the whole thing again.
Tried to download the new version.
But there was nothing to download.

thomasgrant

Right click and save as....

Left click takes you to the trashiest site on the net.

Links fixed.
Current
Kk, Um, NWR and live play. I've looked into Bet365 live play and unfortunatly the spinned numbers don't show. NWR will not be able to support PlayTech live play. I download Dublinbet, and NWR is not compatible with it yet, DublinBet, as of now, confuses Capture in Casino Config. I'll be working on configuring NWR to work with Dublinbet. If there are any other live casino's u'd like to play at with NWR let me know and I'll test them aswell before releasing next update.
NWR has currently been tested on PlayTech and 888.com software. NWR will most probably work with other softwares aswell.  

Did you get my PM re Borland C++ Builder?
PM system here not working - again?

I've done my prog and you can get a copy here:

nolinks://nolinks.wikifortio.com/756284/RRoulette3c.zip

Use basically as in this thread:

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1202935632

Sorry no, pm seems to be acting up sometimes, haven't received it. Hey, I take it u know c++ and u use borlands one. If u'd like u could convert ur system into a DLL that NWR would read out off. I can give u information on how to write it... only thing is I use TStringList with the dll not sure C++ has it. Borland C++ might. Thou I can't conferm that...  The benifits would be that one could use AutoBet, AutoSpin etc with ur system. Up to u. Eventually I want NWR to allow a non programmer to be able to create and use their own system, but thats not in the near future :(

Tiago2

My PM was that I have Borland C++ Pro v4 on a cover
CD and could send it/upload it. Runs fine under XP and
has the same interface as Delphi.

My prog is written with this

nolinks://nolinks.runrev.com/

It's dead easy to programme in so you might
like to try it.

If you could let me know any other forums with
PM working would be easier. Don't want to post
my email here for obvious reasons.

Use the (https://www.vlsroulette.com/proxy.php?request=nolinks%3A%2F%2Fvlsroulette.com%2Fforum%2F%2FButtons%2FEnglish%2Fmessage.png&hash=9b619591b7e4039a70b7c1cbd43721a8fe70e287) button to send.

Use this URL to check them: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?action=im

The PM works here, what is messed at the moment is the "Quote" & "Reply" button.

If you don't want to post your actual email here, just use a remailer :)

Thanks VLS.  It is working but yesterday it hung
when I pressed "Send".  But I think your site has
had some other problems lately?

But all's well now.

Thanks for the update.
Works better.

Now for some bug reports.

Minor bug report.

Currency.
When you change the currency in NWR it should change all the currency symbols.
Umm you missed one in Casino Config.
There is a GBP there that does not change.

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Major bug.
Casino Config.
Open up a Casino
Go to Roulette Table.
Open NWR.
Go to Casino Config.
Position the Eye.
Press next.
Click on record.
To start to record the positions.
Close the Casino Config.
Without doing anything.
Try and close NWR.
And  a error message comes up.

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Record and Test
If you increase the height of the Casino Config.
The Record and Test do not move, so they start to disappear behind the Setup.

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The Casino Config.
This is better.
Umm, some suggestions.
I like the Press the Ctrl key to record the positions.
This gives me the chance to clear the table when I want to record the next position.
This easy to use GUI is good.
However it can be a bit tricky when you press record.
As you do one thing.
And you want to clear the table.
You press the record tick to stop recording so as to clear the table.
Then press record to start where you left of.
This is where it starts from begging again.
How about manually putting in the details?
Just like you have on the increase and decrease buttons on the eye.
I see you put chips in.
This is great.
I see that I can record the positions of the chips.
But how do I do it?
How do I record the positions of the chip amounts.?
Not sure you added it to your "record positions procedure."

Have you implemented how to use the chips?


There may be a few more things that I find.

Hmmm, another problem.
I used the Config preset.
As in I just selected Bet365 from the menu.
And pressed AutoBet.
It starts ok.
Then when it starts to place a bet.
The rebet does not work.
So, I though.
Go in and create another config for Bet365
This is fine until I get to the capture numbers section.
It keeps coming up with "This number is already assigned."
At first I thought it was the config for Bet365
So I deleted it.
And started again.
Same problem.
Hmmm odd.

Another small bug.
Is that if you succeed in doing a casino config.
And you save it as something.
The saved config does not show up in the menu until you restart NWR.

QuoteSorry no, pm seems to be acting up sometimes, haven't received it. Hey, I take it u know c++ and u use borlands one. If u'd like u could convert ur system into a DLL that NWR would read out off. I can give u information on how to write it... only thing is I use TStringList with the dll not sure C++ has it. Borland C++ might. Thou I can't conferm that...  The benifits would be that one could use AutoBet, AutoSpin etc with ur system. Up to u. Eventually I want NWR to allow a non programmer to be able to create and use their own system, but thats not in the near future :(

I'm getting good enough with Rev to think that I could write a prog.
to take users input from a series of checkboxes and put it into a template
script and run it.  Rev is a scripting language (originally for Mac and called
Hypercard) but also has a compiler.

I'll look into it and let you know further.

Doing extensive testing on Casino Tropez, using v0.4.5 as it works reliably for number collection and alarms. Would like to try out the newer versions - any reason for Tropez being removed?

Quote.
I like the Press the Ctrl key to record the positions.
This gives me the chance to clear the table when I want to record the next position.
This easy to use GUI is good.
However it can be a bit tricky when you press record.
As you do one thing.
And you want to clear the table.
You press the record tick to stop recording so as to clear the table.
Then press record to start where you left of.
This is where it starts from begging again.
How about manually putting in the details?
Just like you have on the increase and decrease buttons on the eye.
I see you put chips in.
This is great.
I see that I can record the positions of the chips.
But how do I do it?
How do I record the positions of the chip amounts.?
Not sure you added it to your "record positions procedure."

Have you implemented how to use the chips?


There may be a few more things that I find.

Hm.. yah maybe the ctrl key was a better idea. You can press clearbets to clear the bets than press RightMouse button for it to go back a category so u'll be able to input where u left off.
To Record chip positions u first select either Chip 1, chip 2, etc and enable it, set the value. Then press record, you will configure the Chip coordinates first before the roulette categories.

QuoteDoing extensive testing on Casino Tropez, using v0.4.5 as it works reliably for number collection and alarms. Would like to try out the newer versions - any reason for Tropez being removed?

None particulary, I changed the number capturing system in NWR so it be able to work with more casino. Just haven't redone a configuration for Tropez, u can do it. in NWR v057 just go to NWR > Casino Config and follow the promps

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Quote.
I like the Press the Ctrl key to record the positions.
This gives me the chance to clear the table when I want to record the next position.
This easy to use GUI is good.
However it can be a bit tricky when you press record.
As you do one thing.
And you want to clear the table.
You press the record tick to stop recording so as to clear the table.
Then press record to start where you left of.
This is where it starts from begging again.
How about manually putting in the details?
Just like you have on the increase and decrease buttons on the eye.
I see you put chips in.
This is great.
I see that I can record the positions of the chips.
But how do I do it?
How do I record the positions of the chip amounts.?
Not sure you added it to your "record positions procedure."

Have you implemented how to use the chips?


There may be a few more things that I find.

Hm.. yah maybe the ctrl key was a better idea. You can press clearbets to clear the bets than press RightMouse button for it to go back a category so u'll be able to input where u left off.
To Record chip positions u first select either Chip 1, chip 2, etc and enable it, set the value. Then press record, you will configure the Chip coordinates first before the roulette categories.

Yeah, but when you press record then press the clear bets to clear the table. It records the position of the Clear bets button.

Umm, you said that I can record the positions of the chips.
But have you implemented how they will work?
As I see it. When playing it still plays like normal.
As in it still uses the base chip to put its amount down on the table.
So if AutoBet is putting down $5 and you have $0.25 chips.
It still puts down 25 chips of the $0.25 chip.
Instead of putting down a single $5 chip.

As for record.
How about just putting in pause?
Record Pause Test.
Starting from the top.
Record the positions of the chips.
Then the table positions.
Press pause.
So you can clear the table.
And continue.
This way you wont need the Ctrl key.

Anything on the bugs that I reported?
What about the one with Bet365?
And the AutoBet not working because of the rebet.
And the casino config conflict.

This NWR will be on very good program.
The new easy Gui is very good.
Needs some improvements.

Looking forward to the next release.

Looks very good, the only problem I have with it is the Autobet bug on Bet365 and the fact that the decimal sign are different from mine so I get warnings and cant do everything. But when thats fixed it almost a fully working awesome software. Then its only som things to do, like the bet history and a way to do your own strategy but that is a new chapter.
Love the work Tiago2 and all your help thomasgrant!

PS. will go away for a week (Portugal) and when I come back I'm expecting to see a new release :) OK not expecting but it would be a nice surprise :)

Regards
/Dennis

I'll be working on ironing out the bugs report. Get back soon with an update guys

QuotePS. will go away for a week (Portugal) and when I come back I'm expecting to see a new release :) OK not expecting but it would be a nice surprise :)

Regards
/Dennis

Hahahaa and i'll be expecting a big fat pay slip from u :P

Any news as to when the next update will be.?
Will it be v0.58, v0.59 or will you be up to v0.60?
I hope those bugs get fixed.
And some of those suggestion get looked at.

Gonna code Chip capabilities, Track window horizontal displays, implement sujestions on casino config, and fix the bug reports. If I don't code other features, it'll bring it fairly close to v0.6. So far... haven't had time to code recently, about all I did manage to fix is the memory leak you reported after using casino config... coding is going kinda slow these days...

QuoteGonna code Chip capabilities, Track window horizontal displays, implement sujestions on casino config, and fix the bug reports. If I don't code other features, it'll bring it fairly close to v0.6. So far... haven't had time to code recently, about all I did manage to fix is the memory leak you reported after using casino config... coding is going kinda slow these days...

That is great news.
I will be sending you some more cash next week.

AutoRNG...
Now I am not sure this is a bug or not.
But I think I may have mentioned it.
Anyway, when you use AutoRNG.
When the total goes into the red.
It does not seem to recover.
Or stop.
I have seen it go to +$250 to -$1570
The work its way back up again.
Now this could be the alarm settings.
But I dont think so.
In my mind.
If you have $3000 in the Alam settings.
And you are playing with $0.25c
You should always win.
Hmmm
Oddd...
Take a look at it when you can.
Did you manage to put in a pause button in the record screen?
Make sure that it does not record the position of the pause button.
Looking forward for the next version.
With the chips done.

Tiago, awesome software mate, well done on all the hard work you have put into this is much appreciated!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I have downloaded the latest version and been playing it with 25c chips at BET365 and I must say it is very promising!! I have read through the whole thread and it really has evolved. I have done some programming in the past and know how tedious and frustrating it can be  [smiley=shocked.gif]

I run an IT support company and would happy to help you out with hosting of a domain and website, if you are still hunting...no cost of course!! Have you registered or decided on a domain name yet? Also if I can help with testing of the code or anything else just holler.

I am not sure if it is a bug but I was playing AUTOBET in real money mode (25c bets) and was playing the EC, it works great, and placed the bets as defined in the alarms and according to the progression, however after it placed the first bet (once the conditions were met and win or lose) it would just hang and the message waiting would appear at the bottom of the program, I had to intervene to get it going again. I was playing it on forgo setting and not loop - is that correct? Was set to wait for 7 spins without an EC (red, black, odd, even, high, low) and then bet on the non showing for a four step progression. It did very well in the AUTORNG and worked well in AUTOBET, except it didnt continue once a bet was placed. Here is a screen grab to help explain better nolinks://nolinks.russos.org/.

Cheers
Matt

QuoteTiago, awesome software mate, well done on all the hard work you have put into this is much appreciated!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I have downloaded the latest version and been playing it with 25c chips at BET365 and I must say it is very promising!! I have read through the whole thread and it really has evolved. I have done some programming in the past and know how tedious and frustrating it can be  [smiley=shocked.gif]

I run an IT support company and would happy to help you out with hosting of a domain and website, if you are still hunting...no cost of course!! Have you registered or decided on a domain name yet? Also if I can help with testing of the code or anything else just holler.

I am not sure if it is a bug but I was playing AUTOBET in real money mode (25c bets) and was playing the EC, it works great, and placed the bets as defined in the alarms and according to the progression, however after it placed the first bet (once the conditions were met and win or lose) it would just hang and the message waiting would appear at the bottom of the program, I had to intervene to get it going again. I was playing it on forgo setting and not loop - is that correct? Was set to wait for 7 spins without an EC (red, black, odd, even, high, low) and then bet on the non showing for a four step progression. It did very well in the AUTORNG and worked well in AUTOBET, except it didnt continue once a bet was placed. Here is a screen grab to help explain better nolinks://nolinks.russos.org/.

Cheers
Matt

Hey Matt.
Great to see that you want to help as well.
I have donated some cash to Tiago and will be sending more.
I reckon the program is worth it.
The free hosting would be great news to Tiago.
I am sure he would appreciate it.
Once the version is stable enough.
I will be doing a live telecast or tv show.
Demonstrating the power of this program.
At nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter
I have been using NW since the early version.
This one is much better.
Few bugs.
But when it is done.
Wow...
I looking for Casinos that have lower bet units than $0.25c
Do you know of any?

gidday thomasgrant,

I have played here in fun mode nolinks://nolinks.mapau.com/, they have 1c and 10c bets on european roulette. I tried to configure it as a casino in NWR but it all went a little haywire  :( Would be great if it could be added as a casino, the low bets are great for testing in real play mode.

Yes I agree the program has enormous potential and Tiago needs to be congratulated on his efforts thus far.

Regards
Matt

Hey tiago long time no see been offline for a while you've really come a long way with this nice to see some of my ideas incorporated the new layout is much better and looks like youre getting some good help from thomas nice work you 2 keep it up.

Quote
I looking for Casinos that have lower bet units than $0.25c
Do you know of any?

I have a pound sterling account at Casino Tropez.
This gives me 1p and 10p chips.

Quote

QuoteGonna code Chip capabilities, Track window horizontal displays, implement sujestions on casino config, and fix the bug reports. If I don't code other features, it'll bring it fairly close to v0.6. So far... haven't had time to code recently, about all I did manage to fix is the memory leak you reported after using casino config... coding is going kinda slow these days...

That is great news.
I will be sending you some more cash next week.

Lol, cheers mate. The money u sent me is still kept unused, saving it for the website, should be up soon hopefully.  Haven't touched NWR much in the last week, been busy in other aspects of life, thou im getting a bit more free time nowadays coding will be going a bit faster. Cheers for ur support mate :)

QuoteAutoRNG...
Now I am not sure this is a bug or not.
But I think I may have mentioned it.
Anyway, when you use AutoRNG.
When the total goes into the red.
It does not seem to recover.
Or stop.
I have seen it go to +$250 to -$1570
The work its way back up again.
Now this could be the alarm settings.
But I dont think so.
In my mind.
If you have $3000 in the Alam settings.
And you are playing with $0.25c
You should always win.
Hmmm
Oddd...
Take a look at it when you can.
Did you manage to put in a pause button in the record screen?
Make sure that it does not record the position of the pause button.
Looking forward for the next version.
With the chips done.

I'll have a look cheers. BTW, AutoBet, AutoRNG, etc all use the same 'core' code to operate. If u can mimic whats happening with ManualInput and let me know how to repeat it, it facilitate alot. If u can't then its a AutoRNG specific bug, and i'll have to delve into that one myself...anolinks lol

QuoteTiago, awesome software mate, well done on all the hard work you have put into this is much appreciated!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I have downloaded the latest version and been playing it with 25c chips at BET365 and I must say it is very promising!! I have read through the whole thread and it really has evolved. I have done some programming in the past and know how tedious and frustrating it can be  [smiley=shocked.gif]

I run an IT support company and would happy to help you out with hosting of a domain and website, if you are still hunting...no cost of course!! Have you registered or decided on a domain name yet? Also if I can help with testing of the code or anything else just holler.

I am not sure if it is a bug but I was playing AUTOBET in real money mode (25c bets) and was playing the EC, it works great, and placed the bets as defined in the alarms and according to the progression, however after it placed the first bet (once the conditions were met and win or lose) it would just hang and the message waiting would appear at the bottom of the program, I had to intervene to get it going again. I was playing it on forgo setting and not loop - is that correct? Was set to wait for 7 spins without an EC (red, black, odd, even, high, low) and then bet on the non showing for a four step progression. It did very well in the AUTORNG and worked well in AUTOBET, except it didnt continue once a bet was placed. Here is a screen grab to help explain better nolinks://nolinks.russos.org/.

Cheers
Matt

Wow, I can't tell u how much I love u man! lol, and i mean that in the straightest posible way :P, lol. Yeh free hosting and free domain would be great, thou it be somewhat of a tempory bases, i'd eventually get something definetly congrete for NWR.  I'll back to you on this soon mate via PM.

About with NWR stalling, the reason it stalled is because NWR was waiting  for the either the casino's spin button, or the rebet button to reapear. Thou by the picture the rebet button was presents. Umm... the casino configurations may be wrong, dunno are u using the Bet365 config that came with NWR's rar? That one should be right... or u can try remaking one again (Tools>Casino Config). Let me know if the problem persists.

Quotegidday thomasgrant,

I have played here in fun mode nolinks://nolinks.mapau.com/, they have 1c and 10c bets on european roulette. I tried to configure it as a casino in NWR but it all went a little haywire  :( Would be great if it could be added as a casino, the low bets are great for testing in real play mode.

Yes I agree the program has enormous potential and Tiago needs to be congratulated on his efforts thus far.

Regards
Matt

Great Find dude! 1c bets, its like a $2 investment and you're ready to rumble ;). Dont know why you weren't able to configure it with NWR. Anyway, took the liberty and made u one > nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/94868397/Mapau_Casino_-European_Roulette.cfg.html < place it in NWR directory in the 'Configs' folder and u're good to go.

QuoteHey tiago long time no see been offline for a while you've really come a long way with this nice to see some of my ideas incorporated the new layout is much better and looks like youre getting some good help from thomas nice work you 2 keep it up.

Cheers mate, back in the days u did contribute with alot of good ideas. Many of ppl have. NWR would not be half as good as it is today without users feedbacks and sugestions. On behalf of me, big thanks will always goes to the users of this forum who helped with NWR.  [smiley=beer.gif]

Hi Tiago, I tried run the AutoBet at Casino Tropez. Everything runs fine with the set-up of the casino, but I'm having problems with that the rebet button comes up, it doesn't seem like NWR can go past the rebet option.
The only option is to press rebet THEN clear bets and THEN continue with the progression.
And if i have understand it right, the rebet button only appears after a lost bet, so if the bet wins it shouldn't be the same procedure.
Is this correct or have I misunderstood it all, cant see that the software can handle that yet.

Regards
/Dennis

QuoteHi Tiago, I tried run the AutoBet at Casino Tropez. Everything runs fine with the set-up of the casino, but I'm having problems with that the rebet button comes up, it doesn't seem like NWR can go past the rebet option.
The only option is to press rebet THEN clear bets and THEN continue with the progression.
And if i have understand it right, the rebet button only appears after a lost bet, so if the bet wins it shouldn't be the same procedure.
Is this correct or have I misunderstood it all, cant see that the software can handle that yet.

Regards
/Dennis

The casino configuration is probably not correct. There's a certain part when configuring a casino that will allow NWR to go past the rebet button. Have a look at the image. If it still stalls let me know again.

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Quote
Wow, I can't tell u how much I love u man! lol, and i mean that in the straightest posible way :P, lol. Yeh free hosting and free domain would be great, thou it be somewhat of a tempory bases, i'd eventually get something definetly congrete for NWR.  I'll back to you on this soon mate via PM.

About with NWR stalling, the reason it stalled is because NWR was waiting  for the either the casino's spin button, or the rebet button to reapear. Thou by the picture the rebet button was presents. Umm... the casino configurations may be wrong, dunno are u using the Bet365 config that came with NWR's rar? That one should be right... or u can try remaking one again (Tools>Casino Config). Let me know if the problem persists.

Thanks heaps for the Mapau config, will be great for testing in real money mode without the risk. I will try it tonight and let you know how it goes.

Hey, you can have the domain and website for as long as you need it!! We run hosting as part of the business, so is not a hassle at all, the servers are in a redundant data center so consider it permament!  ;) Have you decided on a domain name yet? If so, shoot it through and I will take care of the registration (cheap industry rates) and setting up the webspace. I will then forward you the FTP details and the login for the CMS. More than happy to help you out  :)

Regards

Matt

Hi Tiago, thanks for showing me, but there is still a problem.
When pressing "Get Rebet" I can see my mouse pointer going done to point at the rebet button on the casino board but it does not press is, so it is still there.
And after I have pressed it several times I get a warning where it's stated that I should contact you, you have thought of everything.
Have got any closer with the "not a valid floating point value", will it be in the next release or should I fix the  ,  and  .  on my own computer?
Thanks
/Dennis

QuoteHi Tiago, thanks for showing me, but there is still a problem.
When pressing "Get Rebet" I can see my mouse pointer going done to point at the rebet button on the casino board but it does not press is, so it is still there.
And after I have pressed it several times I get a warning where it's stated that I should contact you, you have thought of everything.
Have got any closer with the "not a valid floating point value", will it be in the next release or should I fix the  ,  and  .  on my own computer?
Thanks
/Dennis

Yeah, had the same problem.
The program still has many bugs.
Some of them I have reported.
Waiting for a new version.
Even though V.045 had bugs, it still was stable enough for me to play with.
This new version is great. Very easy to use.
But has some problems.
The Rebet was one of them.
Even when you try to config new Casino.
Or to config Bet365.
Still, NW is getting there.
Looking forward to getting the next version.
Should be a good one.
With most of the bugs gone.
After that.
It will nearly be ready for Version 1.

QuoteHi Tiago, thanks for showing me, but there is still a problem.
When pressing "Get Rebet" I can see my mouse pointer going done to point at the rebet button on the casino board but it does not press is, so it is still there.
And after I have pressed it several times I get a warning where it's stated that I should contact you, you have thought of everything.
Have got any closer with the "not a valid floating point value", will it be in the next release or should I fix the  ,  and  .  on my own computer?
Thanks
/Dennis

The Get Rebet button grabs some configs of when the mouse cursor is over and when its not over the rebet button and stores the settings. It is not meant to click it. Just click NWRs Get Rebet button once, the mouse cursor will fly over the casino's rebet button and grab the settings. If u don't get a error message u're good to go. Then after that, clear bets or something in the casino window  to get the spin button back up. Click on NWR Capture button and u should be good to go.
If u still can't get it to work, whats the error message ur getting in NWR is it with the MO=MA or BO=BA?
The 'not a valid floating point value' error for the time being just change the ',' to '.' . I'll try and
permantly fix that one on the next update.

Sorry Tiago, but I cant get the rebet button to go away. I always have to press the rebet myself and then the progression is not working anymore. The rebet must first be pressed and then the clear bets, and after that the progression can continue and the spins go on. Or what els can i be doing wrong.

Some glad new I've got was when I was searching around for any Playtech sites with low minimum bets I came across Grosvenor Casinos which have 0,1p in minimum bets, thats £0,01, that must be as low as it gets. Will probably try that one out when I can get the autobet to work properly.

Another problem that happens quite often is the inability to close it, the notice come up with the text:

The application has encountered a problem. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
Access violation address 00557712 in module 'NWR.exe'. Read of address 00000016.

or

Access violation at address 00484778 in module 'NWR.exe'. Read of address 0000774F.

or

Access violation at address 00557712 in module 'NWR.exe'. Read of address 00000014.

and so on....


Regards
/Dennis

Quote
The application has encountered a problem. We are sorry for the inconvenience.
Access violation address 00557712 in module 'NWR.exe'. Read of address 00000016.

or

Access violation at address 00484778 in module 'NWR.exe'. Read of address 0000774F.

or

Access violation at address 00557712 in module 'NWR.exe'. Read of address 00000014.

and so on....

Regards
/Dennis

Im made a video for "casino config -- using the config to play at a casino", having problems codec-ing it. But i'll get that sorted. I'll post once its done, maybe that will help u with your errors.
Um with the error messages its random program crashes. There above errors don't help me at all. But when u do get the error theres a 'click here for details' or something like that. Anyway click it and go to the second tab and send me a screen shot of as much of it as u can, try maximazing the window. That will help me more with figuring out where the error is coming from within NWR.

Well looks like a few of us are sending in problems.
Now all you got to do is fix em. Lol
Any idea as to when you can release something?
I'd like to try out the chips.
And the config casino.
Plus I would like to try it out on 888.com
See how well it works there.
I hope you put in a pause button or the ctrl key to record positions.
Plus record chips and casino config updates.
Hope to see a new version soon.
As I would like to test it out with real cash again.

KK, been working on it a few days now. Mainly fixing bugs and stuff. haven't added Betting chip capabilities yet. But the Track forms can now be moved around the screen, aswell as suports horizontally display. Just resize the window :D.  Casino Config has been altered a bit, well... not GUI wise but I have added more error prevention stuff. So if NWR is stalling, chances are the Casino configuration is off. I recoment creating a new one with NWR v0.571. NWR should work with 888.com. Preconfigured config include in zip. Let me know how I did this time? Any bugs in the first 5 minutes? lol Always happy to hear feedback :)

Oh btw just want to say Big Thanks to matt27 for helping with hosting. Haven't had time today to upload files to it, but none the less here's a update to NWR, rapidshare is temporary lol. nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/95502750/NWRv0571.zip.html

QuoteWell looks like a few of us are sending in problems.
Now all you got to do is fix em. Lol
Any idea as to when you can release something?
I'd like to try out the chips.
And the config casino.
Plus I would like to try it out on 888.com
See how well it works there.
I hope you put in a pause button or the ctrl key to record positions.
Plus record chips and casino config updates.
Hope to see a new version soon.
As I would like to test it out with real cash again.

Yup! All I must do is fixed them. Simple! :D -lol
KK, not in order...
*Havnt coded chips yet, gave it a shot but arg... conflicted with already there code. Will have to workaround it somehow...
*Gave the Ctrl key a shot aswell, but after a while at it... couldn't get it to work right. Put it aside for this update...
 Thou you can right click the mouse button (must be inside the casino window) and it will go back a gaterory while in record mode. Allowing u to clear the table then goback  
 a few categories and start again where u left of at.
*Yes, I did manage to put in more 'safety measures' to not allow a user to proceed with the casino config unless settings are right. Making it alot easier for users to be get a enjoyable experience while using NWR.
*888.com is working! Hopefully on other computers aswell lol. Lets me know if u try

Thanks Tiago.
Looks like a good one.

First bug of the rank.

AutoRNG.
Ok, I have been testing out this feature to get my Alarms within range.
And I think that is the problem.

1. Start NWR
2. Set Opening Balance to $2000
3. Set alarm to $30 (Random or no random, does not matter.)
4. Set to $1 chips or any other chips.
5. Use Dozens only for this example. (Has the same problem on all of them.)
6. Set to use AutoRNG.
7. Let it run.

Ok, Hopefully you will see the same thing I do.
And that is that AutoRNG does not count properly.
Second, when it goes past the alarm.
As in if the alarm only has 5 progressions.
The Amount goes in the red and stays there.
It works it's way up again eventually.
Sometimes not.
So in essence.
AutoRNG ignores any alarm settings that you have.
And does not calculate properly (I think.)
It seems to work ok if you have a large alarm setting.
Say $300 or more.
The Stop when WIN: is seems to work ok as well.
Rebet seems to work now.

Now to test out the Casino Config.
:D

Well it NWR seems to work better.

AutoBet.
Does not respond to any keyboard commands.
Alt + A Panic button does not seem to work.
Cant get the program to stop.
Or close down.

But it seems to play ok.
Only time I can get it to stop.
Is when it wins a bet.
This gives me just enough time to move the mouse button and stop the process.
Have to be fast though.

How about having your own settings?
As you have config.
How about NW config?
That way we can set up our own keyboard commands to stop NW.
I like the F keys.
You have F keys for AutoSpin Start and stop.
Plus the Alt + A panic key.
Why not have a few more.?
Say F1 for AutoBet on F2 for AutoBet of.
Etc.

Error in Lines.
Line 0, 1
Just keeps counting.
Does not seem to bet on Line 0, 1 so I guess that is a good thing.
All others Lines are ok.

Hmm, got an error message when trying to close it down.
When we get error messages like this.
What screen do you want us to capture?
What tab?
Do I send all screens from all the tabs in?
I see you have copy to clipboard.
Why not have save error messages.
That way we can just send that to you.
The error message should contain all the tab information that is on the error window.

Track Window leak.

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Did the same thing on singles.
That is until I resized it.
Worked ok after that.
So I resized the Trios window.
And got it working as well.
Must come up from time to time.
Depending on windows.

Ahh also the width of the window.
If you have it to thin.
Then I think the above problem will occur.

Casino Config.
Umm, You have the chips set up in the record function.
But you forgot the Spin and Clear bet.
When you do the next version.
How about this for an idea.

So far it is going well.

Press the record to record positions.

It starts with the chips.
Fine.
End in the last chip you have.
In this case $100
Test all chips.
Then reverts to $1
Continue. Pause.

How about starting with the Spin and Clear bets.?

Spin and Clear Bets.
You have to put a bet down to have the clear bet to come up.

Then you go to dozens and columns and so on.
After each section.
Say after dozens.
You should be able to test it.
See if you have the coords correct.
Press pause to do so.

A pause and test section would be handy.
This would test out all the coords that you have for the table so far.

Just a suggestion.

Excellent work so far.

Get Rebet.
Umm, something wrong here.
Ok, so I get to the Get Rebet window.
I put a bet down.
I clear the bet.
Press the Get Rebet button.
And the mouse goes of on a tangent.
As in it move from the spin button at a 45 degree angle.
Keeps moving for a few seconds.
Then disappears.
So still having trouble doing the Casino Confg.
Tried it with OnlineCasino. No joy  :(
Hmmm,
Work in progress I guess.

Not sure why you have this here.
Since if you just go to the presets and select Playtech.
It has all the coords in there.
Plus when you do your record, you are supposed to record the spin and clear bets.
Why not have it record the rebet as well?


Ok, so it seems to work in Bet365.
Apart from the bugs that I have found.
Gonna test it out on 888 now.

QuoteCasino Config.
Umm, You have the chips set up in the record function.
But you forgot the Spin and Clear bet.
When you do the next version.
How about this for an idea.

In order to configure the coordinates for spin and Clear bet u must check the two checkboxes first before pressing record. you'll configure them as soon as u configured the chip settings.
Gadz, and here I was thinking this one was semi-stable. Im gonna work through these errors one by one, I'll repost after every error fix and hopefully I'll be able to wipe them off forever.

Ok,

Tonight and Monday Night.

Live Broadcast of NeverWinter.

In the NeverWinter .TV room

nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter

Come in and watch me play with NeverWinter and 888.com
Even Bet365. Maybe.
With 888 I can get to type to you.
And answer your questions.
I can even chat to you with my mic.

LIVE screen capture of me playing online.
You can see my Desktop.
In real time.

Come one, come all.

See it in action.

Tonight. 9.30 PM Adelaide Australia time. Till late. or early.
Depending on your time zone.

And again on Monday.
Same Bat time, Same Bat channel.

nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter

I may be in and out of the room from time to time.
So if you do not see me.
Or hear me.
Leave a message.
Or Skype me.
thomasgrant

Depending on the software that I use.
Screen Capture can take a lot of the processor.
So I may not be able to do good quality broadcast.
Even though I have 2 gig of Ram, and Radon vid card.
Hmmmm.
Annoying.

Quote

QuoteCasino Config.
Umm, You have the chips set up in the record function.
But you forgot the Spin and Clear bet.
When you do the next version.
How about this for an idea.

In order to configure the coordinates for spin and Clear bet u must check the two checkboxes first before pressing record. you'll configure them as soon as u configured the chip settings.
Gadz, and here I was thinking this one was semi-stable. Im gonna work through these errors one by one, I'll repost after every error fix and hopefully I'll be able to wipe them off forever.

It is fairly stable.
Works ok in most cases.
Just can not get the thing to stop.
Got it working in 888.
And doing a Live webcast/telecast today and Monday.
Perhaps you may be gracious enough to join in.
And say a few words.

Window positions.
Umm, getting there.
Sort of.
Close the program down.
It should remember the window positions of all the windows.
Especially the Track windows.
Sort of works.
Better than before.
Much better.
Thanks.

Now, umm,
Could you increase the time for the AutoBet feature for players that are using 888.com
As it takes twice as long to play.
I get to about 140 before it cuts out.

Before playing live.

Tips.

Open NWR and the trak windows.
Use AutoPlay.
Do this before you play.
And do it in REAL mode.
That way you can see how well your Alarm settings are holding out.
You may need to increase them as you see the Alarms go of.
Make the adjustments.
Start with Dozens and Columns.
And then go to High/Low Red/Black and so on.
See what happens when you play.
Then move on to corners.
And then singles.
Once you have settings that you like.
Go an put in $50 or more.
You may win, you may loose.
Just depends on the settings.

Quote
It is fairly stable.
Works ok in most cases.
Just can not get the thing to stop.
Got it working in 888.
And doing a Live webcast/telecast today and Monday.
Perhaps you may be gracious enough to join in.
And say a few words.

Dude haha rock on! Just checked the forum now, saw ur message and hurried over. I missed the broadcast by 2 hours, I'll be joining in on Monday. Did the time conversation and have the right time u'll be broadcasting acording to here. And congrats on ur "hard earned" cash. Not a bad half hour of drinking coffee was it? lol. Very inspiring to see NWR getting good results with Real Money play. Loved the show! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

QuoteNow, umm,
Could you increase the time for the AutoBet feature for players that are using 888.com
As it takes twice as long to play.
I get to about 140 before it cuts out.

I hear you, some casinos do take longer to operate. I'll try and have an extension for u before Monday

Quote

Quote
It is fairly stable.
Works ok in most cases.
Just can not get the thing to stop.
Got it working in 888.
And doing a Live webcast/telecast today and Monday.
Perhaps you may be gracious enough to join in.
And say a few words.

Dude haha rock on! Just checked the forum now, saw ur message and hurried over. I missed the broadcast by 2 hours, I'll be joining in on Monday. Did the time conversation and have the right time u'll be broadcasting acording to here. And congrats on ur "hard earned" cash. Not a bad half hour of drinking coffee was it? lol. Very inspiring to see NWR getting good results with Real Money play. Loved the show! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Great. looking forward to seeing you in the room.
Had it open for a bit.
Did a recording of me playing with 888
Wasn't real mode.
Just fun play.
Testing out strategies.
Should have some cash by Monday.
See if I have enough to spare so I can send you some.
And put some in the casino.

Reset.
Umm, this clears everything.
Except the balance.
Not sure I want it to.
But it should clear the profit.
And have the balance set to the balance that it has made.
In other words.
If the profit for the session was $10
And the start balance was $200
Then when you press reset.
It should clear all fields.
And reset the balance to $210
Or something like that.

When playing AutoBet.
Once I have finished playing in AutoBet mode.
I would like to see what freak show has to say about how I played.
Is this possible?
Maybe have recommended settings.
For the next game.
Hmmm,
That would be cool.

Randomize.
As you mentioned before.
If you have Alarm settings at 7 to 12 on Dozens.
That means that any number from the 7th spin to the 12 could be chosen at random.
So if your playing dozens. And you get 7 straight misses.
It picks the next random number from you Alarm settings.
The thing is, you have no idea as to what that might be.
Is there someway to show what random number has been shown?
Or what the next one may be?
Perhaps an extra track window.
With the current setting in them.
And the next random number it will chose.
Just an idea.
Just wanted to see what was going on.
No big-e.

Just spent $30 in Bet365 and lost it. Lol.
Ohh well. These things happen.
Should of played in AutoPlay first.
To see if my settings were any good.
Live and learn.

QuoteOk,

Tonight and Monday Night.

Live Broadcast of NeverWinter.

In the NeverWinter .TV room

nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter

Come in and watch me play with NeverWinter and 888.com
Even Bet365. Maybe.
With 888 I can get to type to you.
And answer your questions.
I can even chat to you with my mic.

LIVE screen capture of me playing online.
You can see my Desktop.
In real time.

Come one, come all.

See it in action.

Tonight. 9.30 PM Adelaide Australia time. Till late. or early.
Depending on your time zone.

And again on Monday.
Same Bat time, Same Bat channel.

nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter

I may be in and out of the room from time to time.
So if you do not see me.
Or hear me.
Leave a message.
Or Skype me.
thomasgrant

Depending on the software that I use.
Screen Capture can take a lot of the processor.
So I may not be able to do good quality broadcast.
Even though I have 2 gig of Ram, and Radon vid card.
Hmmmm.
Annoying.

Ok, for those that missed it.
This should give you plenty of time.
So again come Monday.
I will be in the room again.
9.30 Pm Adelaide Australia time.
What ever that is in your time zone.
Should be in the room for a few hours.
See how things go.

nolinks://nolinks.justin.tv/neverwinter

Hope to see some of you there.

Quote

QuoteCasino Config.
Umm, You have the chips set up in the record function.
But you forgot the Spin and Clear bet.
When you do the next version.
How about this for an idea.

In order to configure the coordinates for spin and Clear bet u must check the two checkboxes first before pressing record. you'll configure them as soon as u configured the chip settings.
Gadz, and here I was thinking this one was semi-stable. Im gonna work through these errors one by one, I'll repost after every error fix and hopefully I'll be able to wipe them off forever.

Tiago, did you see what happens when you press the Get Rebet button?
It sort of slides of, to the left and up. At a 45 degree angle.
Then disappears.
Odd.

PS. Like the work you did with 888.com
Really good stuff.
Works ok.

Maybe in version 1.
You may have it so we can do things like the LaBroche method
or some of the other ideas on playing that are in the forum.
I read some of them.
Made no sense to me.
But they do well for some.
VLS posted some.

Hi, NWR is working fairly well I have to say, played it on Grosvenor and no problems at all in AutoBet.
There are somethings that are missing like bet history for example that would be nice.
And thomasgrant I don't think we (you) should get ahead of yourself, you are building a good software here but there are a bit to go before its finished. But I do agree that this work you are doing would work well in all the other games as well, and t would be very interesting, so a suite would be nice, but for now I'm just very happy for NWR.  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

I just have a suggestion to make, as you can see in the end of thread "nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196421140/15" there are a discussion on real waiting streaks, I believe that that could be implemented in NWR.
It could record the longest no-hit streaks for all kinds of bets that are already running,
and it would be even better if it only looks at the number before it becomes to zero,
because the there could be a set of five, maybe, longest streaks so that you could easier develop you systems.
So for example the five highest no-hit streaks for singles would not be

489, 490, 491, 492, 493

but instead

381, 402, 425, 456, 512

for example. Could info for system development.
Just a thought

Regards
/Dennis

QuoteHi, NWR is working fairly well I have to say, played it on Grosvenor and no problems at all in AutoBet.
There are somethings that are missing like bet history for example that would be nice.
And thomasgrant I don't think we (you) should get ahead of yourself, you are building a good software here but there are a bit to go before its finished. But I do agree that this work you are doing would work well in all the other games as well, and t would be very interesting, so a suite would be nice, but for now I'm just very happy for NWR.  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

I just have a suggestion to make, as you can see in the end of thread "nolinks://vlsroulette.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1196421140/15" there are a discussion on real waiting streaks, I believe that that could be implemented in NWR.
It could record the longest no-hit streaks for all kinds of bets that are already running,
and it would be even better if it only looks at the number before it becomes to zero,
because the there could be a set of five, maybe, longest streaks so that you could easier develop you systems.
So for example the five highest no-hit streaks for singles would not be

489, 490, 491, 492, 493

but instead

381, 402, 425, 456, 512

for example. Could info for system development.
Just a thought

Regards
/Dennis

No problems.
It was just a suggestion.
For the future.
Lets see how Tiago goes with the bug fixes.
And then he can work on the other things in there.

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Tiago, did you see what happens when you press the Get Rebet button?
It sort of slides of, to the left and up. At a 45 degree angle.
Then disappears.
Odd.

PS. Like the work you did with 888.com
Really good stuff.
Works ok.

Maybe in version 1.
You may have it so we can do things like the LaBroche method
or some of the other ideas on playing that are in the forum.
I read some of them.
Made no sense to me.
But they do well for some.
VLS posted some.

Lol, the 45degree angle is on perpose. It was always there but it used to soom so fast u could hardly notice. Had to slow it down a bit because having it to fast wouldn't give me the result I needed. Has to do with casino's like 888.com where the spin button doesn't reapear instantly.  
Oh and yeh, with the different playing methods one will be able to create their own. NWR will come with its standard progression and ontop of that a user will be able to create there own. And share it aswell with others. Its what Designer will eventually turn into. version 1 wont be announce untill thats done along with bet history etc.  

QuoteWell things are moving along.
Thanks Tiago for your excellent work.
After it is all done, I reckon you may need a break.

And when you return.
Perhaps you do a program on BlackJack.
I purchased one that is a bot.
Fairly lame. Works sometimes.
I am sure that we can do something better.

Then perhaps we could do one on Craps.
I do not understand the game.
Even after seeing how to play it on Youtube.
But I am sure there is a way that a programmer could come up with a way to play it.
[smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

It should be fairly easy to do.
Since all your programming is based on screen positions and OCR.
Screen positions for a blackjack table.
And screen positions for a craps table.
Then there Baccarat.

You could release a suite.
But lets not get ahead of ourselfs.
Something to ponder anyway.

haha Im liking the ideas dude, thinking about it wouldn't be that difficult. The framwork for OCR and screen capture is already in place in NWR, change the GUI and write a new system for individual games. it could happen. Lets see how NWR goes with the public, if the hype is big I'll look into coding more software.

Great, now if you could release a version that I can test out the CasinoConfig on.
I use OnlineCasino.
And when I set it up.
I first don't use the Playtech defaults.
Just to see if I can do it on my own.
If that don't work.
Then I use the defaults.
I hope the idea to have a pause button or something else like it,
in the record feature gets put in.
Casino Config has come a long way.
Getting better as you go.
Now, to get those window positions.
I like the separate windows for the tracks.
And the ability to move them.
Plus getting to resize them.
Just a small leak when they are to thin.
That and the bug about the 0, 1 line.
Once I can do a complete config.
I can do one for any casino.
The ones it cant do, well they will have to manually put in the numbers.
Just like Roulette Snipper.
But this has so much more.

Now for some more suggestions.
I am getting a new monitor.
And will be testing out what having two monitors is like.
So, with that.
Ummm, how about having the other screens like the Graph, and Freak show as separate detachable windows?
In fact, all the sub programs or features could indeed become separate windows.
And you could attach hotkeys to all of them.
So while you are playing you can bring a window up.
In its last saved position.
You could store all the data for window presets in a data file.
Window Track X Y position, and so forth.

Now a question I have been burning to ask.
Now I know that programming can be difficult.
But you seem to be getting there on this one.
And you may know of the other Roulette Software that I use.
The other Roulette software you can play and do other things.
With your NW.
Your stuck. The mouse takes over.
And it wont leave what it is doing.
I know why you did this.
As it is easyier to just do mouse coords.
And get the mouse to move to those coords.
And get the mouse to click at those coords.
Not sure how you are going to programme around that.
So that the mouse has nothing to do with it any more.
And the table does it all.
At the moment, it is not an issue.
As its just one of those things you just have to get use to.
The other software that I use.
Does not have those problems.
It just places the bests.
Uses the chips.
And of it goes.
Not sure how it is programmed.
But it works well.
Gives you more freedom to do other things.
Anyway that was the question I wanted to ask.
The question was.
Why do you have the mouse do all the work.?
Lol.
No big-e.

As it stands.
NW is very, very good.
And getting better.

"haha Im liking the ideas dude, thinking about it wouldn't be that difficult. The framwork for OCR and screen capture is already in place in NWR, change the GUI and write a new system for individual games. it could happen. Lets see how NWR goes with the public, if the hype is big I'll look into coding more software."

Well, when it gets there.
Are you thinking of selling it?

QuoteWell, when it gets there.
Are you thinking of selling it?

Nah, im not really thinking that far yet. Dunno, depends how it turn outs

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QuoteWell, when it gets there.
Are you thinking of selling it?

Nah, im not really thinking that far yet. Dunno, depends how it turn outs

Ok, cool.
How about those other points I mentioned?
The ones with the separate screens,
And the screen window positions.
You sort of got them working.
Just needs some fine tuning.
As for the casino config.
Looks like you getting there on that one.
If I can get it to work on some of the more obscure casinos that were mentioned in this forum.
Then we can say that the config can play on any casino.
Not many out there like 888.com
Most of the ones that I have seen look like playtech.
But there was a list in here earlier on some of the other ones.
Going to try out Dublin Bet.
And manually put in the numbers.
See how that goes.
Not being RNG.
It could take a while. Lol.
Thanks again.

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QuoteWell, when it gets there.
Are you thinking of selling it?

Nah, im not really thinking that far yet. Dunno, depends how it turn outs

Ok, cool.
How about those other points I mentioned?
The ones with the separate screens,
And the screen window positions.
You sort of got them working.
Just needs some fine tuning.

The track window's coordinate are being saved... Its coded just not properly referenced yet. Bug I know now off.  

Its a bit of a pain but u can save the coordinates by first moving and resizing all the track windows to where u want them to be then clicking on the track window's x button to close it. Close all track windows then exit NWR. Load NWR up again and track windows will load up again from where u left them before.
Separate screens? Do u mean a window to show the alarms? or something else?

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QuoteWell, when it gets there.
Are you thinking of selling it?

Nah, im not really thinking that far yet. Dunno, depends how it turn outs

Ok, cool.
How about those other points I mentioned?
The ones with the separate screens,
And the screen window positions.
You sort of got them working.
Just needs some fine tuning.

The track window's coordinate are being saved... Its coded just not properly referenced yet. Bug I know now off.  

Its a bit of a pain but u can save the coordinates by first moving and resizing all the track windows to where u want them to be then clicking on the track window's x button to close it. Close all track windows then exit NWR. Load NWR up again and track windows will load up again from where u left them before.
Separate screens? Do u mean a window to show the alarms? or something else?

I meant freak show, and graphs.
Or any of the menu options.

Can you consider saving the data after playing in AutoBet.
As I mentioned. I would like to see how I did.

So now that some of us have reported the bugs.
Can we assume that you will release v0.0572? or v0.573?
Maybe even v0.6
Hope to see something by Monday.
Ready for a live broadcast.

Hello, I still would like to see if we can get it to work with NetEntertainment sites, many of them are very trusted, they are no download
and many of them have very low minimum bet on roulette (10c).

I tried to do a config on them, but I can't capture the numbers thats the problem, must be because the last spun number blinks.
Do you think there is any way to config these sites?
/Dennis

QuoteHello, I still would like to see if we can get it to work with NetEntertainment sites, many of them are very trusted, they are no download
and many of them have very low minimum bet on roulette (10c).

I tried to do a config on them, but I can't capture the numbers thats the problem, must be because the last spun number blinks.
Do you think there is any way to config these sites?
/Dennis

Had a look at some of the casinos, and yes it is the blinking first number that confuses NWR. Um.. ATM its fair to say NWR works with Playtech and 888.com softwares. Im working on creating compatibilites with more softwares,

Dublinbet  and now I'l also do
NetEntertainment

if u guys no of anyother softwares that u'd want to use with NWR let me know and i'll encorporate them aswell

QuoteSo now that some of us have reported the bugs.
Can we assume that you will release v0.0572? or v0.573?
Maybe even v0.6
Hope to see something by Monday.
Ready for a live broadcast.

Yup u can assume with confidence. Im working on rooting out the bug reports and there will be an update by Monday.

Problem with HotKeys.
My machine does not always seem to recognize F3/F4, so I have re-mapped the start/stop to F1/F2.
These work, BUT in reverse! F1 is set as AutoSpin Start, but actually it stops it and F2 starts.
When F3/F4 do work, they too are reversed.
Also, my changes to F1/F2 are not saved, even though the save all on exit option is ticked.

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I meant freak show, and graphs.
Or any of the menu options.

Can you consider saving the data after playing in AutoBet.
As I mentioned. I would like to see how I did.

Menu options? Like witch ones? Currently NWR save Settings, Alarms, Progressions, track window coordinates, Dozens etc checkboxes and the
chip type. It can also save Numbers spinned to freq.txt if u set it to in 'Settings'.

In settings if u don't have "Save all settings on exit" checked u'll have to manually save them everytime.
Freakshows and graphs, yeh I'll add suport for it aswell. Thou Im hoping once the current bugs are fixed of releasing a stable v0.6 release. Then i'll start working on the other areas of NWR.  

QuoteHi, looks very good.
I've been thinking about how you guys could make it work for more sites and I ran across this site (nolinks://online[.]casinocity[.]com/software/) where you can see all the sites with the specific software.
I often play at sites using Net Entertainment where you can play without downloading any software, feels safe. All the sites which uses Net Entertainment have the exact same roulette layout.
I'm just wondering if Playtech look the same everywhere and if you then can use NWR on all the 34 sites (says 172 if you click on Playtech) and if its possible to make it work for Net Entertainment which is more used and where you don't have to download anything.
Could be a good idea to use those sites so that you can for example make only $20 on each sites and instead play on many sites for more protection against being noticed and banned IF we someone start making real money with this thing.
Hope this could be to any help.

Regards
/Dennis

PS. don't know if there are any rules against putting links in posts, thats why I posted it this way. DS

Tiago the person that posted the above has all the casino types listed in it.
The URL is nolinks://online.casinocity.com/software/
Have a look at the ones there.
I did,
Very interesting.

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I meant freak show, and graphs.
Or any of the menu options.

Can you consider saving the data after playing in AutoBet.
As I mentioned. I would like to see how I did.

Menu options? Like witch ones? Currently NWR save Settings, Alarms, Progressions, track window coordinates, Dozens etc checkboxes and the
chip type. It can also save Numbers spinned to freq.txt if u set it to in 'Settings'.

In settings if u don't have "Save all settings on exit" checked u'll have to manually save them everytime.
Freakshows and graphs, yeh I'll add suport for it aswell. Thou Im hoping once the current bugs are fixed of releasing a stable v0.6 release. Then i'll start working on the other areas of NWR.  

No, what I asked for was to have the Freak Show and graphs to show up as separate windows.

There is post in here a bit further back that had this casino link.
nolinks://nolinks.mapau.com/index.asp
Had a look at it.
Very good.
1c bets.
Hmmm
That will give you lots of progression.
And 10c bets as well.
Table limit is $300
So that is cool.
Not sure what type of RNG they use.
But who cares.
When the next version of NWR comes out with a stable config.
I am gonna try it out in this casino.

Then have a go Net Entertainment ones.

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I meant freak show, and graphs.
Or any of the menu options.

Can you consider saving the data after playing in AutoBet.
As I mentioned. I would like to see how I did.

Menu options? Like witch ones? Currently NWR save Settings, Alarms, Progressions, track window coordinates, Dozens etc checkboxes and the
chip type. It can also save Numbers spinned to freq.txt if u set it to in 'Settings'.

In settings if u don't have "Save all settings on exit" checked u'll have to manually save them everytime.
Freakshows and graphs, yeh I'll add suport for it aswell. Thou Im hoping once the current bugs are fixed of releasing a stable v0.6 release. Then i'll start working on the other areas of NWR.  

No, what I asked for was to have the Freak Show and graphs to show up as separate windows.

... u mean like a realtime one, like the freak show graph already in NWR, but realtime?

Hey all, forums have been set up for NWR > nolinks://nolinks.neverwinterroulette.com/forum/ <.  So far its specifically geared for the software. More forums will be added later thiu. Theres a thread created just for bugs on NWR v0.5.71. If its not too much trouble please repost the bugs to that thread as I'll be using it as reference. Cheers all, and I'll see u all there.

QuoteThere is post in here a bit further back that had this casino link.
nolinks://nolinks.mapau.com/index.asp
Had a look at it.
Very good.
1c bets.
Hmmm
That will give you lots of progression.
And 10c bets as well.
Table limit is $300
So that is cool.
Not sure what type of RNG they use.
But who cares.
When the next version of NWR comes out with a stable config.
I am gonna try it out in this casino.

Then have a go Net Entertainment ones.

Dude be careful with Mapau. I had a bad experience with them. I won $500 and when I went to withdraw they refused to payout.They claimed I used some kind of betting tool where in fact I wasn't.

Hi Tomasgrant, I also think that Mapau looks and feels strange, I found Grosvenor with the same minimum bets.
But now I also saw that if you look in the page I found with all the casinos and their software here:
nolinks://online.casinocity.com/software/software.cfm?start=1&sorttab=&&sortlist=rank&filterlist=&numperpage=25&&Id=3665&searchall=0

Mapau are at place 52 and Grosvenor at 57 in popularity, dont know if that madder.
Would be nice if someone downloaded all casinos from 1 place to 30th place and looked at all minimum bet :)
but that would have been a horses job  ;D