never winter roulette

[bobco]

Hello Tiago,
I have sent u a pm. As I also mentioned I would like the bets to be lower if possible. Set to 0.10 and 0.25, for example. Would be good if you could type it in yourself.

Thanks!

Compa,
Tiago made a video earlier about it to help understand it.

[gazrobbo]

bobco lowest you can bet is 0.25 on bet365 and golden palace and if you click the 0.25 chips before starting thats what it will bet the progression is for units so if its 1,2,3,4,6,9,13 and you use 0.25 bets it would do 0.25,0.50,0.75,1.00,1.50,2.25,3.25 hope this helps works the other way to if you wanted to do £5 bets it would progress like 5,10,15,20,30,45,65. one of my ideas is to try a £5 bet with a £400 bankroll waiting for 28's leaving it running all night on only dozens and colums would only need 5-6 wins to make my £50 target. would have to replace the freakshow safty feature with a feture that stops at low balence tho.  thanks garry

[Compa]

Hello Tiago,
I have sent u a pm. As I also mentioned I would like the bets to be lower if possible. Set to 0.10 and 0.25, for example. Would be good if you could type it in yourself.

Thanks!

Compa,
Tiago made a video earlier about it to help understand it.

OK, WHERE can i FIND that Video??
/Thx
/Compa

[gazrobbo]

hey mate video link is nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/70480941/NWRVideo.rar.html

[bobco]

bobco lowest you can bet is 0.25 on bet365 and golden palace and if you click the 0.25 chips before starting thats what it will bet the progression is for units so if its 1,2,3,4,6,9,13 and you use 0.25 bets it would do 0.25,0.50,0.75,1.00,1.50,2.25,3.25 hope this helps works the other way to if you wanted to do £5 bets it would progress like 5,10,15,20,30,45,65. one of my ideas is to try a £5 bet with a £400 bankroll waiting for 28's leaving it running all night on only dozens and colums would only need 5-6 wins to make my £50 target. would have to replace the freakshow safty feature with a feture that stops at low balence tho.  thanks garry

Thanks gazrobbo,
Wasn't aware of that. I wouldn't try with real money with autobet but the few bets  for dozen and columns would come. They are better than the even bets. Say a stop at 26,28 or 30. The seven step progression would be good then. Could it go over 37? Starting at a £5 would win a lot if needed running all night but only some bets would be needed.

[gazrobbo]

depends need to test it all out first. ive never seen it go over 33 but then again im fairy new to this game ive seen many 26-29's not many 30's so i would be inclined to test out for the first few nights 26's then 27's and so on i reckon 26's would be high enough as that gives you to 33 just depends how many of these you get a night. it may even be posible to play £1's on 26's and still make good profits. just take alot of testing to find the most consistant approach, itll be worth the work to find the most effective  

[bobco]

Hello all,
I haven't tested the autobet so much but I have noticed when it comes to limit of your betting the NWR turns red and it stops. Why that? Have I missed something in the program?
Thanks!

[Tiago2]

Its built that way, when the end of the progression bet is reached it will shut down autobet and autospin and turn red.
I'll add an option to loop it. For the momment, quickfix around it, if u want NWR to loop the progression bets... that is...
if u have progression 1,2,3,4,6 and u want it to loop.. u could set progression like so....1,2,3,4,6,1,2,3,4,6,1,2,3,4,6... its a bit messy but it'll work.

[Compa]

hey mate video link is nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/70480941/NWRVideo.rar.html

Thanks mate, appreciate it:)!

Cheers
/Compa

[bobco]

Hello Tiago,
I have downloaded that unlimit bet version you sent but the problem with it is that the casino software seem to stop after a while probably because you don't bet. So leave it running all night seems impossible if you put the limit for start betting high. I put 26 for dozens and columns but it didn't hit once in an hour. Hopefully it would hit a few times on a night but when the casino software stops it's a problem.

[Tiago2]

How do u mean by stops? Does the roulette window close? Crash? I know it closes if the user hasn't touched it for a while... but i always thought if the users was at least spinning the wheel it wouldn't. Interesting... i'll run some tests here at home. I'll leave settings like 50 or something and see if it will keep spinning all night. And see what I can figure out. Get back to u laterz dude

[gazrobbo]

Same here tiago twice in a row after between 4000-5000 spins it registered 4 in a row in online free play stopping it from doing anymore spins. tryed it in the offline mode when i went to work today was still going 10 1/2 hours later. maybe a nominal bet of 0.25 after 1000 spins would solve this.

after full 10 1/2 hours in offline mode testing waiting for 26's with £5 progression of 7 (5,10,15,20,30,45,65)

total spins showed 76379

results for dozens were
1: 12373
2: 8320
3: 5734
4: 3777
5: 2502
6: 1659
7: 1049
8: 749
9: 484
10: 329
11: 194
12: 130
13: 92
14: 53
15: 55
16: 23
17: 15
18: 21
19: 17
20: 4
21: 2
22: 3
23: 1
24: 2
25: 1
26: 0
27: 0
28: 1
29: 0
30: 0
31: 0
32: 0  = 35337 spins

so dozens never went above 28 in 76379 offline spins, not sure of colums as there not working yet.
this was a totl profit of only £25 in 10 1/2 hours on £5 bets.
obviously as only one went over 26 on dozens and went to 28 that would of been a £15 profit 2 bets is (£10 at 2/1 = £30 - £10 stake  and - 1st £5 stake )
so the other win must have been £10 from a colums bet
and most importantly no losses.

and there may be a bug with the recording system as all the dozens only add upto 35337 spins when total spins were 76379 that would either suggest there is a bug in either total spins or the frequency chart. or there were 41000 zeros lol.

[gazrobbo]

on the same 76379 spins i have calculated the following data, if i were to play these configurations of nwr bearing in mind this is only for playing dozens as i have no info as for colums ect yet.


1.setting betting alarm at 7's and progression for 2/1 bets at 7
from 7's to 14's  ( 7 step progression max loss 38 units )
won   4062 units
lost  5510 units
total -1448 units

so on 0.25 bets -£362
  on 1.00 bets -£1148
  on 5.00 bets -£5740


2.setting betting alarm at 7's and progression for 2/1 bets at 11
from 7's to 18's  ( 11 step progression max loss 200 units )
won   4294
lost  6000
total -1706

so on 0.25 bets -£426.50
  on 1.00 bets -£1706
  on 5.00 bets -£8530

3.setting betting alarm at 10's and progression for 2/1 bets at 10
from 10's to to 20's ( 10 step progression max loss 133 units )
won   1208 units
lost  1330 units
total -122 units

so on 0.25 bets -£30.50
  on 1.00 bets -£122
  on 5.00 bets -£610


4.setting betting alarm at 18's and progression for 2/1 bets at 5
from 18's to 23's ( 5 step progression max loss 16 units)
won   54 units
lost  64 units
total -10 units

so on 0.25 bets -£2.50
  on 1.00 bets -£10
  on 5.00 bets -£50

5.setting betting alarm at 18's and progression for 2/1 bets at 7
from 18's to 25's ( 7 step progression max loss 38 units)
won   60 units
lost  38 units
total +22 units

so on 0.25 bets +£5.50
  on 1.00 bets +£22
  on 5.00 bets +£110


6.setting betting alarm at 21's and progression for 2/1 bets at 7
from 21's to 28's ( 7 step progresion max loss 38 units)
won   16 units
lost  0 units
total +16 units

so on 0.25 bets +£4
  on 1.00 bets +£16
  on 5.00 bets +£80




As you can see from above the most effective method for these 76379 would be method 5 betting alarm on 18 for a progression of 7
will update after a few more tests over similar spin and try to do the maths over all total spins to work out the most viable method thanks garry

p/s there are many combinations from these spins i havent worked out as im tired lol will add a few more combinations tomorrow try to get more effective ones.

if you want to try make one your self .
1.choose a start point for alarm ( eg 7)
2.choose an end point (eg 12)
3. work out progression ( so start point is 7 so will start betting at 8  (8 9 10 11 12 ) = 5 step progression)
4. work out max loss on a progression (as its 5 step 1+2+3+4+6 = 16 units)
5. add up all the numbers on the chart in post above from start point plus one in this case 8
6. multiply that by 2 as its a 2/1 bet ( this equels units won )
7 then add up numbers from chart in post above after progression ends ( in this case from 13 to 33)
8. then multiply this number by the maximum loss for progresion ( in this case 16 units)
9 subtract that from units won to get your total profit/loss
10 if you want to work out for 0.25 bets divide wins and losses by 4
11. if you want to work out for 5.00 multiply wins and losses by 5

thanks hope thats not too confusing lol

[Tiago2]

Good work gazrobbo, interesting the way u figured this all out. This gives me a new idea, I'll incorporate a system in v1.0 to calculate results for the user like the ones u've done here. I didn't do the math, but it looks like there is alot going on. About the numbers recording more than once,... im writting a completly new Number Recognition system using MD5 hashes which, theoretically, will eliminate any numbers being recorded more than once. Anyway, good work dude on figuring this out, I'll start work on the FreakShow occurances on Rows etc when Im done with Number Recognition. Hopefully, also incorporating a results feature like u've done above as to take the headache out off calculating it manually. I'll keep u posted... keep up the good work  

[bobco]

Agree, well done gazrobbo.  I don't know however you play off-line spins as you have to log in either you go into fun play or real play?  But to leave it unattended for example over the night can be a problem when the casino software close down if you don't bet (it's the same for live play for example, if you don't bet for some spins you get logged out from the play, not from the casino but from the play). The betting amount could maybe change to 0.25 for example if you betstart is on 5 but how would be that be done? Anyway, gazrobbos test was interesting and I will come up with statistic too when I get time.
Tiago, could you add the features for lines, streets, squares, splits and numbers as well. It's a hell of a job I guess but much appreciated. Thanks!  

[bobco]

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