Hamsup's Test on the Lohnro's Double Street System + victors 50% MM

[hamsup_sotong]

Hi guys

Im currently doing a test on the above system.

Rules are as follows:

1.         Br per session 50 units($250). Overall bank roll 3X min Banks (150 units or $750)
2.         Targets : 4 winning concatenated sessions of (15,16,18,19 units) before moving on to the 
            next level
3.         Starting with $5 per unit. Each increase in level $2.50.
4.         Stop for the day after losing 1 progression.
5.         On good days, play more sessions
6.         Wins are split : 50% into Bank 1 and 50% into Bank 2( up till a point whereby the minimum value
            bank is reached ie $250), further winnings are split into bank 3 and so on.
7.         Losses are taken solely from Bank 1. In the event that bank 1 is depleted, then move on to the
            Bank 2 and so forth.
8.         After a loss start again with minimum units

CHeers
Hamsup

[hamsup_sotong]

Test results are as follows

[table=,]

Date, Sess, Unit, TAR(UNIT), Spins, Win/Loss, OverallW/L, OvBR,                     
                     
26/9, 1, 5,  15, 60, 95, 95, 845,
,2, 5,  16, 38, 80, 175, 925,
27/9, 3, 5,  18, 58, 65, 240, 990,
,4 , 5,  19, 47, 70, 310, 1060,
29/9, 5, 7.5,  15, 48, 135, 445, 1195,
, 6, 7.5,  16, 55, 120, 565, 1315,
30/9, 7, 7.5,  18, 58, 150, 715, 1465,
, 8, 7.5,  19, 54, 172.5, 887.5, 1637.5,
1-Oct, 9, 10,  15, 59, 40, 927.5, 1677.5,
2-Oct, 10, 10,  15, 50, 180, 1107.5, 1857.5,
, 11, 10,  16, 39, 130, 1237.5, 1987.5,
3-Oct, 12, 10,  16, 46, 90, 1327.5, 2077.5,
4-Oct, 13, 10,  18, 44, 190, 1517.5, 2267.5,


[/table]

Cheers
Hamsup

[Shorty]

Wow, they are excellent results.

[hamsup_sotong]

here's the Bank roll table

[table=,]

Date,   Sess,   OBR,   BANK1,   B2,   B3,   B4,   B5,   B6,   B7,
                           
                           
                           
26/9,   1,   845,   297.5,   250,   250,   47.5,         
26/9,   2,   925,   337.5,   250,   250,   87.5,         
27/9,   3,   990,   370,   250,   250,   120   ,      
27/9,   4,   1060,   405,   250,   250,   155   ,      
29/9,   5,   1195,   472.5,   250,   250,   222.5   ,      
29/9,   6,   1315,   532.5,   250,   250,   250,   32.5,      
30/9,   7,   1465,   607.5,   250,   250,   250,   107.5,      
30/9,   8,   1637.5,   693.75,   250,   250,   250,   193.75,      
1-Oct,   9,   1677.5,   713.75,   250,   250,   250,   213.75,      
2-Oct,   10,   1857.5,   803.75,   250,   250,   250,   250,   53.75,   
2-Oct,   11,   1987.5,   868.75,   250,   250,   250,   250,   118.75,   
3-Oct,   12,   2077.5,   913.75,   250,   250,   250,   250,   163.75,   
4-Oct,   13,   2267.5,   1008.75,   250,   250,   250,   250,   250,   8.75,


[/table]

Cheers
Hamsup

[hamsup_sotong]

yeah shorty...

But its early days at the moment. We'll see how it goes.

Would be more fun if more people get involved though

Regards
Hams

[Clint]

Hi Hamsup, are you playing exactly as Lohnro described in the first thread or have you modified the system at all?

Regards

Clint

[hamsup_sotong]

Hi clint

I play exactly the same way. Just end the session when u lose a progression.

Cheers
Hams

[ChickenDinner]

I know it's early days, but great results so far Hamsup! It'll be interesting to compare our results when we both reach a 100 sessions.

I can't get my simple head around your target method though, please could you explain in more detail. Are you aiming to win 15, then 16, then 18, then 19 units per session, and then raising your base unit by 2.5 after doing so?

Also, it seems you are playing well beyond your target in most sessions. Are you mostly quiting sessions only after you lose a progression or is that you are satisfied with your session profits?

Also, you say that you're quiting a session after losing a progression, but all your sessions have ended in profit, does that mean that so far you have never lost a progression before making enough profits to cover that loss, and still be in good profit. If so, that's pretty lucky going! I've seen some, but not many, sessions tank straight from the out ( or soon after), and I have to wait for 18 - 24 virtual losses before I bet again. I guess you'll hit these sessions soon enough.

Anyway, good work though!

Looking forward to hearing more about your MM and target methods.

Cheers,
CD 

[hamsup_sotong]

Hi CD
I normally just go for 15($75) units for the 1st session, 16 for then 2nd, 18 for the 3rd and 19th for the 4th. As to why this figures are chosen its just random( or rather i cant park my ass down for more than 100 spins at a time :p)

After 4 winning sessions, ill move up to the next level and increase by $2.50 or 1.5 times the original unit value(5). After this, increase again after another 4 winning sessions. On a loss start at the minimum unit bank.

I normally quit if i lose one progression for the day . Lose the battle but WIN THE WAR lol. Battles can always be fought on another day.

You could try again on a different table i guess.. but wait at least a couple of hours. But again all this is your own preference. However like any system, this system would have days where it tanks as well. Just play less when it happens.

Oh btw, i only stop when my target is = or exceeded

With targets of around 15 to 20 units i find that u gain it pretty quickly say  around 40 - 100 spins.
20 units may seem like a little but hey at 5 bucks a pop its still $100. And as u see if u catch a good streak the profits snowball.


Hope this helps CD

Waiting to hear from your version  as well this could be a good thing i reckon.

Cheers
Hams

[ChickenDinner]

Hi Hammy - Thanks mate. I get it now...I wasn't reading your chart properly. I know what you mean about not wanting to spend too long at the table. I think after a certain amount of spins, aiming to break even is the best bet. When the table is not working for you, my experience tells me that this scenario is likely to continue, so it's best to make sure you either lose or win as little as possible and then quit the session while your BR is still reasonably healthy. Because I'm using Lanky's divisor, a smaller betting attack window, and virtual play after a loss, these dispersion surfing tactics mean my sessions will generally go on for longer than yours as I grind away. So for me, after about 100 to 150 spins without hitting my target, I start seeking an exit point.

I have not done any testing for a few days, but I will to get back on it very soon as I'm really liking the "feel" of this system and I do believe it could be a long term winner if played right.
Cheers
CD

[hamsup_sotong]

Hi CD

no worries mate. How are u incorporating the lanky divisor into this betting scheme?  Any examples? Good luck on your testing!!!!


Cheers
Hamsup

[ChickenDinner]

Hi Hams,

I'm putting the divisor up 1 after 8 real losses on a single line, and 4 on the doubles - obviously combining the 2 where neccessary. After a win, the divisor goes down 1.

Here's a recent session (I work out the divisor to assume that I'm always playing 2 double streets and half the calculated bet when playing a single street, so the calculated bet amount goes up in units of 2, always rounding upwards).

I haven't come accross this scenario yet, but if I lose 50% of my bank roll, I'm gonna experiment with jumping the divisor up by alot more to keep the bets down, and bet a minimum of 1 unit per street if neccessary. I know those hellish sessions will arrive eventually, so I'm looking forward to seeing how I can combat them with the divisor.

Here's a longish session where you can see the divisor in action while I recover from a loss quite nicely  . I decided to quit before I hit my target because it felt like the safest option:

25 is my unit target

30   25/6=6   L3 (single street)
35   28/6=6   L3
14   31/6=6   L3
2   34/6=6   L3
17   37/6=8   L4
5   41/6=8   L4
20   VL   
6   VL   
15   VL   
32       
21   VL   
1   VL   
10   VH   
4   45/6=8   L8
26   53/7=8   W16
14   37/6=8   L4
28   41/6=8   W20
30   21/6=4   L2
21   23/6=4   L2
8   25/6=6   L3
15   28/6=6   L3
27   31/6=6   L3
0   34/6=6   L3
20   VL   
3   VL   
3   VL   
36   VL   
0   VL   
22   VL   
28   VL   
36   VL   
15   VH   
13   37/6=8   L8 (double street)
30   45/7=8   L8
20   53/7=8   L8
20   VL   
18   VL   
31   VH   
21   61/7=10   L5
0   66/7=10   L5
14   71/8=10   L5
14   76/8=10   L5
23   81/8=12   L6
7   88/8=12   L6
19   VL   
19   VL   
17   VL   
9   VL   
24   VL   
11   VL   
33      
3   VL   
11   VL   
33   VH   
27      
35      
19      
9      
18      
8      
15   94/8=12   W30
19      
29         
10   64/7=10   L5   
18   69/7=10   L5   
29   74/7=12   W30   
33         
2         
17   44/6=8   L4   
27   48/6=8   L4   
27   52/6=10   L5   
20   57/6=10   W25   
22   32/6=6   L3   
7   35/6=6   L3   
35   38/6=8   W20   
4   18/6=4   L2   
33   20/6=4   W10   15 PROFIT
11   10/6=4   L2   
34   12/6=4   L2   
11   14/6=4   L2   
18   16/6=4   L2   
0   18/6=4   L2   
15   20/6=4   L2   
17   VL      
21   VH      
25   22/6=4   W8   
20         
9         
18   14/6=4   L2   
26   16/6=4   W10   19 PROFIT




Cheers,
CD

[hamsup_sotong]

hi cd,

thanks for the explanation. I see it now 

Oh we play slightly different as well. I play 1 Ds for 12 spins and 2 for 6 ...

It'll be interesting to see the difference in our tallies. Anticipating great stuff from you.

Wonder when Sam will sink his teeth into this one.

Can we have more testers for this please?

Cheers
Hams

[Tucktuckster]

I have done quite a bit of testing on this.

will dig out results and post. on other machine.

[hamsup_sotong]

cheers tuckster

regards
Hams

[hamsup_sotong]

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