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Why do so many of us persist...

Started by bombus, May 30, 2009, 02:16:57 AM

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lucky_strike

QuoteBut it is the instinct I believe that keeps you from losing lots of money.

Okay tell us more about it and how it is done.
Random pick or is it mechanical.

I would like to know.

LS

gizmotron

Quote from: Lucky Strike on May 30, 2009, 08:40:59 AM
Yes as you all can see there is claims no more or less.
I would only repeat what I already wrote so it ends for me here.

LS

Fine. I have made my choice to be an idiot until I'm not one. After that you will be just one of those that was right until your were proven wrong. This is your time. Enjoy it. Claims are worthless, except that there are rocks on the tracks and the train is headed for the gorge, just around the bend.  :diablo:  :skull:

gizmotron

Quote from: Lucky Strike on May 30, 2009, 08:47:37 AM
Okay tell us more about it and how it is done.
Random pick or is it mechanical.

I would like to know.

LS

It's simple. Visual Ballistics are mechanical processes. Does that explain it well?

lucky_strike

QuoteI have made my choice to be an idiot until I'm not one.

You are not idiot.
I hope you not are one.

I see it like this.
You have your way to see things and have  your opinions.
I have the same as you and we just don't agree.

I can show how, where and why.

You can not do that can you?
It easy you just show us how some-thing is a decision with out being a rule and a part of some-thing mechanical.

That is for me a random pick what is it for you?
Educated guess?

LS

Number Six

It's the psychology of gamblers. Most people deny the maths of the game and think it can be overcome with a simple procedure. Of course, mechanical systems don't fail beacuse of the casino edge, but because, being invariable by nature, they are not equipped to counteract fluctuations. Most rely utterly on single events and use true progressions, which only cast the illusion that all will be OK in the long run. When one system fails, the player might believe that they have noticed something unique during testing that needs further analysis. Eventually they get bogged down in a myriad ideas, none of which will ever work or cannot be executed because of impracticalities. It's not that people willingly persist, they are trapped.

gizmotron

Quote from: Lucky Strike on May 30, 2009, 08:55:51 AM
You are not idiot.
I hope you not are one.

I see it like this.
You have your way to see things and have  your opinions.
I have the same as you and we just don't agree.

I can show how, where and why.

You can not do that can you?
It easy you just show us how some-thing is a decision with out being a rule and a part of some-thing mechanical.

That is for me a random pick what is it for you?
Educated guess?

LS

Before the next spin all you have is the guess. Nobody knows what will happen. After the spin you use a process to discern what sector the ball will most likely land in. I have the bet selection, based on a hunch, and I also have session difficulty, after the fact. My method might have something to do with basic common sense. I raise my bets when I'm doing good and I play the lowest level bets when I'm not. Now that's not my secret method but it sure is good thinking. In fact you should be using it based on how well you are guessing where the ball will land.

bombus

@ Lucky Strike

You think the term mechanical system encompasses a broad spectrum of bet selection processes including organic, inorganic, and physical. I can see where you're coming from here as eventually it must be a trigger of some sort that commences an attack, and trigger of some sort that ends it. There may even be triggers that change an attack mid stream, including raising and lowering the stake. These triggers can be thoroughly rigid, or as vague and ambiguous as the player can manage, but after the long haul, they will all slot into regular little mechanical boxes, they will all be reactive to little inbuilt switches within the player's game.   

bombus

Quote from: Tangram on May 30, 2009, 06:18:53 AM
I suppose it depends on how you define "mechanical". To me, it means a rigid bet selection process which doesn't deviate or take into account what's happening on the table over multiple data streams.

Why couldn't a mechanical system operate over multiple data streams, and have deviation factors that react to what's happening on the table?

QuoteWhat's the difference between a "real" edge and an illusory one, if you are making a profit?  ???

Yes Tangram good point, I say no difference at all.

bombus

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 30, 2009, 08:37:37 AM
The only way I'm going to reveal my method is if that's possible with my dieing last words. In fact, I'm going to do just that. I'll write it all down and have it released after I die. It will end just about all the table games. It's so simple anyone can learn it in just a few days. It will have a long term effect on everything but Poker. People will become aware. They will teach it in elementary schools.

So you will have to live with the fact that you can prove your point of view and I won't. It's not an issue of can't. One thing though. I get to be the one that drops the bomb on all your dreams. I mean all you people that haven't arrived yet. When it's too late it will be too late. I owe it to myself to wreck the train. I'll do it because you can't take it with you. I'll do it because I want the respect thirty years of searching is owed to me. It's my Mt Everest. I want the first accent claim. It's completely human to go out and get it too. 

The first person that gets it is Victor. I just love the idea that in his hands will be the hot potato. I will give him one year to make his millions and then it will go out to the whole world on the internet as a free book. It will bring fame to him too. This website will be a study in belief systems and internet life experiences.

No matter what is believed to be the truth, the bomb will be dropped. I owe that much to myself.

Is this the ranting of a lunatic? Shades of winwithmath /dyksexlic here...

Gizmotron, nobody in my world wants you to reveal your method, so what are you going on about?

And what is the use of any post humus glory?

And once you're dead, how do you intend to appreciate any respect you deserved for so many years of hard work?

And what kind of conceited, self absorbed person would want to wreck the train once they have alighted?

...I can beat every game...I want respect... you all owe me...wrecking trains...dropping bombs...

Sorry, you need help mate.

gizmotron

Quote from: bombus on May 30, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
Is this the ranting of a lunatic? Shades of winwithmath /dyksexlic here...

Gizmotron, nobody in my world wants you to reveal your method, so what are you going on about?

And what is the use of any post humus glory?

And once you're dead, how do you intend to appreciate any respect you deserved for so many years of hard work?

And what kind of conceited, self absorbed person would want to wreck the train once they have alighted?

...I can beat every game...I want respect... you all owe me...wrecking trains...dropping bombs...

Sorry, you need help mate.


For what it's worth, there is a quality to any man that can follow a thread. You appear to lack that as well as to win at roulette too. Lucky Strike accused me of not being able or capable of proving it. I thought it appropriate to accommodate him. I really love giving myself something after I'm gone. They say you can't take it with you when your gone. Well I can.  It will be a great story. You will get to say that you were there and that you knew me.

LOL - bombus does not want me to reveal my method. Too bad. I'm going to do it anyway, and for all the skeptics that harassed me and disrupted my attempts to share it over the past few years too. After all, this is the best Roulette website in the entire world isn't it? Everyone will really enjoy getting their hands on a working method. Don't you think?

I'll write everything down and publish it encrypted. If you break the encryption then you will know before I pass away. All you will need is the secret phrase. I just have to figure out how to give up that secret phrase after I'm gone.

LOL

bombus

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 31, 2009, 12:19:10 AM
For what it's worth, there is a quality to any man that can follow a thread. You appear to lack that as well as to win at roulette too. Lucky Strike accused me of not being able or capable of proving it. I thought it appropriate to accommodate him. I really love giving myself something after I'm gone. They say you can't take it with you when your gone. Well I can.  It will be a great story. You will get to say that you were there and that you knew me.

LOL - bombus does not want me to reveal my method. Too bad. I'm going to do it anyway, and for all the skeptics that harassed me and disrupted my attempts to share it over the past few years too. After all, this is the best Roulette website in the entire world isn't it? Everyone will really enjoy getting their hands on a working method. Don't you think?

I'll write everything down and publish it encrypted. If you break the encryption then you will know before I pass away. All you will need is the secret phrase. I just have to figure out how to give up that secret phrase after I'm gone.

LOL

Oh goody gooody...You have yourself a heap of fun there Gizmotron.

gizmotron

Quote from: bombus on May 31, 2009, 12:27:35 AM
Oh goody gooody...You have yourself a heap of fun there Gizmotron.

I already did. You are going to be the goofball when this comes out. Just think, I'll be dead. You get a working system and I dropped dead. It's a win win.

VLSroulette

QuoteI just have to figure out how to give up that secret phrase after I'm gone.
A possible solution: you need to setup a monthly "cron job" at any web server. Next you write a tiny server program or PHP page which reads the file ./month.txt and if it does NOT contain current month in plain text, it will write a text file on the public nolinks directory, -say-nolinks://nolinks.gizmotron.com/holygrail.txt

You pass this URL to every roulette forum, message board and news syndication you feel like.

Each month, you have to update current month on the month.txt file.

So the month you aren't there to update the file, it is assumed you died (hey! You had a whole month!) the cron job runs and as the month on file doesn't match then the file nolinks://nolinks.gizmotron.com/holygrail.txt gets published.

You can and instruct message board members to visit it every month under the promise it will take at most 1 month for them to get the file holding the holy grail after you die.

bombus

Quote from: Gizmotron on May 31, 2009, 12:38:57 AM
I already did. You are going to be the goofball when this comes out. Just think, I'll be dead. You get a working system and I dropped dead. It's a win win.

Touché.

PS
I'm already a goofball.

gizmotron

I'm not inclined to use any CGI tricks, where the clock on the server can be manipulated, bingo! I must be dead so here is the secret phrase. I need to give it to a person under a non disclosure agreement.

I have congestive heart failure. I could kick the bucket at any time. I think I won't any time soon, but you never know. It's an irony too. I'm taking care of my father who has the same problem. That keeps me from running wild on a break the casino binge. So I can't do what I want until he passes away and I might check out before him. I'm all he has so I do what I can. Life is very funny. Sometimes it throws you a curve ball. So I want to set this up before it's too late.

gizmotron

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