The 21 Gun Salute

[bombus]

Hi.

I just did done a 2000 spin test, flat betting only twice for each attack.

There were 216 attack points.

For 432 bets of 1 unit each.

For 274 wins.

Hit rate =  63.43%

Total outlay = 9072 units

Total return = 9864 units

Flat bet profit = 792 units.

Wowzers!


I think I will keep testing this with only 2 flat bets made at each trigger point.

[topcat888]

Hi Bombas,

It sounds very promising.  .  .   

How did you do a 2000 spin test, with RX code.  .  ?

topcat

[xman1970]

Great going Bombus 

long may it continue.....

Flat betting as well 

[I have cookies]

Nice to see that you use random. org and thanks for a nice post.

[Colin]

BONBUS thanks for posting a great and intresting system . Loads better than any that other guys charge many $&£ for . MAY at this point wish you ALL good luck in playing same goes for all who play the21 Gun just wish my old head could work asgood .Thanks again & KEEP HER'LIT .Colin

[Clint]

Hi guys, been watching this post quite a bit but too busy this week to do any testing yet. Did a brief 200 spin test last night and never went past 2nd prog.

Has anyone experienced a loss and if so, how many more spins before it hit?

Regards

Clint

[bombus]

Thanks for the comments, friends.

@ topcat888

All manual tests for now, it's easy enough to do as a side test while toying with other ideas. I will eventually script this for RX, but am presently working on a bit of an RX goliath, so it won't be for a while. Perhaps someone else could do it and post the script.


@ Clint

I've seen it go past the 4 step progression a few times now, so that is why I have suggested the 2 flat betting approaches below.

Flat betting approach 1).

Track for a betting opportunity as normal.

Commence betting on the 21 chosen numbers and continue to bet on the current 21 numbers until either of the following two things happens.

1) When the first bet is a win, continue to bet until you get a loss. After the loss, continue to bet for 2 more wins or a second loss, whichever comes first.

2) When the first bet is a loss, continue to bet until you get a second loss.

3) Restart tracking for a new betting opportunity from the next number out.


Flat betting approach 2).

Track for a betting opportunity as normal.

Commence betting on the 21 chosen numbers and bet those 21 numbers for 2 bets only, irrespective of the outcomes. After 2 bets, restart tracking for a new betting opportunity from the next number out.



I hope to soon add a money management plan for the flat betting approach 2.

Cheers.

[Allin]

Hi Folks,
   
     Either progression or Flat bets will not put you in Positive in long run,  There is good winning rate, I got 724 Wins and 558 Losts. U still need to fine tune the money management otherwise it will be a big waste.
             
       
Regards

[bombus]

@ Allin.

Which of the 3 betting approaches gave your results?

[bombus]

Here is another 500 random.org spins test results.


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OPTION 1

Scrap it, it tanks. Realistically the progression is too short, real world table limits see to that. Up as you lose progressions don't really suit methods that bet on lots of numbers, period.

OPTION 2

44 attack points.

211 bets x 21units = -4431

136 wins x 36 units = +4896

Hit rate = 64.45%

Profit = +465 = 10.49% Profit On Turnover (POT).

OPTION 3

Using the same attack points (shouldn't matter much in the long run)

87 bets x 21 units = -1827

58 wins x 36 units = +2088

Hit rate = 66.66%

Profit = +261 = 14.29% POT.


OPTION X (betting a max of 3 times then going virtual with option 2).

130 bets x 21 units = -2730

90 wins x 36 units = +3240

Hit rate = 69.23%

Profit = +510 = 18.68% POT.

[simon]

what does "POT" mean?

[bombus]

POT = Profit on turnover.

Its the percentage of profit compared to the total outlay.

Sorry, its a term I've always used from my horse racing days.

Cheers.

[simon]

ah, well that's certainly better than my investments have been doing.  ok so can I quit my job now?  (I haven't really studied/tested this system yet, but I like what I'm reading, so far, I think...)

I now have access to "virtual roulette" 20 minutes from where I live and I sure would love to find a way to beat the crap out of that machine (especially since it beat the crap out of me the other day.)  But I actually like it better than real roulette at the casino which is an hour away (they just put in a virtual roulette machine at a slot parlor close to where I live, where they don't have any table games with live dealers.)  I like it better than real roulette because it's faster, easier to place your bets, and you don't have to keep track of your chips, etc, because that's all taken care of automatically.  Unfortunately it's a double zeroe wheel, but I'm going to study your system and see if it can be adapted to a double zeroe wheel (can it?) and see how it holds up (will it?)  They have single zeroe roulette machines at the casino an hour away, and double zeroe real roulette with real dealers, but it's much easier and faster for me to get to this double zeroe roulette machine (it's like a full size roulette wheel that six people can sit at-- and you don't have to put up with people reaching over you to make bets and you don't have to wait for the dealer to pay everyone off, etc, like at the real roulette tables-- but instead of a ball going around it's this light thing.... and it just keeps doing it every few minutes.)  Well I just hope it's fair.... oh well sorry to go on about the new roulette machine near me...  I shall study your system and hopefully I can give it a go there... thank you for sharing it!

[bombus]

@ simon.

OK, dude.

Not sure to what extent the extra pocket will impact, but it won't be good whatever it is.

If you are going to study and play, just remember, you're placing bets on 21 numbers, so you need to practice, especially if it's a fast game.

Also, don't use the progression, it could get costly if you hit a bad run.

Use any of the other 3 betting plans. Whichever you're more comfortable with.

Cheers, good luck, and let us know how you go with it, if you do.

[The Spiders Kiss]

Hi Bombus
Thanks for showing such a good idea to us.
Good going so far mate!
TSK

[The Spiders Kiss]

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