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PERFECT ???

Started by MATTJONO, January 27, 2009, 10:45:30 PM

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trylobit

I've done a test of 14 sessions:
I have attached the table and graph.
It crushed once, but it was on the second last number tracking and I think 4x miss trigger on the second last number should help a lot.
In 14 sessions it made a total of 1005 profit.

BTW I always apply victors 50% MM, so that why I have one main bankroll and 2 extra bankrolls.
Any questions?
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Rquest09

I just done a quick 52 spins waiting for either 2 hits or 2 miss and betting for the change 1x19 (+17) or 2x19 (+15) for a -57 loss,  stopped when it lost.

H
M
M  x1
M  x2
H  w+15
H  x1
M  w+32

H  x1
M  w+49
M  x1
H  w+66
M
M  x1
H  w+83
M
M  x1
H  w+100
H  x1
M  w+117
M  x1
H  w+134
H  x1
M  w+151
M  x1
H  w+168
H  x1
H  x2
M  w+183
H
H  x1
H  x2
M  w+198
H
H  x1
H  x2
M  w+213
M  x1
M  x2
H  w+228
H  x1
M  w+245
H
M
H
M
M  x1
H  w+262
H  x1
H  x2
H  L+205

Could be good for the hit n runners  :)

eightfour

Very nice trylobit. How long did your sessions last and where did you play?

I heard some mentioning of 1 min spins here? I currently play 2 minutes. Where can I play 1 minute spins on low limits?

Eightfour

trylobit

Spins are from the joyland casino. I don't remember bow long session took, but multiply the number of spins by about 2min.

Br.
Trylobit.

trylobit

I decided to give a try with this system. Unfortunatelly it crushed the second session. Till that moment I was up by 100u. There was 11 times no hit within the lasts numbers 9 eva side. I was playing at Eurogrand, it's Playtech feed. The name of the dealer was Lucy.

If anyone is interested I can paste the session here.

I was playing 0,01euro bets so I lost only 17,10euro.

I will consider playing with the second bankroll to recover...

But personally... Progression is dangerouse thing... This is a beginning of the good system, but still many tweaks to apply... I'm thinking about applying positive progression and disabling relative bets. If I come up with anything interesting I will post it here...

Best regards.
Trylobit.

eightfour

This is unfortunate and impossible to predict. Therefore I think doubling the bankroll will give a lot of safety. Especially when you reach the unit size you are satisfied with.

I partly agree that this is a hit'n'run-system. I thinkthe  progression and bet selection works fine and like in winkel's GUT, while playing the system clinically you observe certain tendecies and these can be used as extra bets. Sometimes dealer has a tendency to hit every time and some times it's HHMHHMHHM. With a little gambler's intelligence, this can be used in a more advanced way and I think flat betting sidebets is the thing. Maybe even progressions if your intuition says that it is a "wise" idea.

I use Victor's money managment system myself (thank you Victor) and I think good MM is a key element to success in this system. I will try to aim at having as many "cushion banks" as possible.

MATTJONO

so for now i will be testing. after every M,M or every H,H i will bet JUST ONCE next on the M,M to change to M,M,H so i would now be betting 19 units if win quit if lose quit.

if we lose the bet for two seperate times after m,m we add extra unit to the bet.

example


M,
M, BET -19
M,
M,
H,
H, BET -18
H,
M
H
H BET *2 -36
M, BET WON +72


GET THE IDEA PEOPLE FOLLOWING THIS TRHEAD.


ILL DO SOME TESTING ANYWAY.

trylobit

It can be a good idea mattjono...
I'll do some testing tomorrow.

take care. keep up the good work.
trylobit.

The Spiders Kiss

Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on February 01, 2009, 05:28:47 PM
Hi all'
I guess I was pretty unlucky but this bombed on me fairly quickly.
Just be aware
The Spiders Kiss



I posted this a while back.
I would just liketo say that since this post(In fact the last 2 weeks or so) I ve won over 2300 units playing this and am yet to lose again.
As I say I must have been unlucky 1st time around.
Just wanted to put the record straight as Matt sure puts alot of work into his theories
Thanks
TSK

Ronin

Hi everyone!

So just that I understand.  Are you guys playing with last number,  or last and second last....just want to be sure as I'm going to give it another try. I'm also curious of where people are playing. I'm playing on a playtec wheel (live) where they don't spin from the last number. Does that make a difference? Any details from those of you that are successful with this system would be very helpful. For me, it worked well for a little bit, but then lost once. As I continued in an attempt to recover, it went beyond 9 again.

Ronin

The Spiders Kiss

Hi Ronin
I am playing at joyland casino. My method of playing is to play 1 st and second numbers but I never play the second until the 1st has won.
Sometimes this of course means i miss the 2nd number but people seem to lose more often to the second so I give it as long as possible to run.
Just my way lol
TSK

MATTJONO

Quote from: The Spiders Kiss on February 15, 2009, 06:53:02 PM


I posted this a while back.
I would just liketo say that since this post(In fact the last 2 weeks or so) I ve won over 2300 units playing this and am yet to lose again.
As I say I must have been unlucky 1st time around.
Just wanted to put the record straight as Matt sure puts alot of work into his theories
Thanks
The Spiders Kiss



it is like i said this system is not a 100% never loseses system its from my view a 100% profitable system.

Rquest09

Quote from: MATTJONO on February 10, 2009, 09:25:44 PM
so for now i will be testing. after every M,M or every H,H i will bet JUST ONCE next on the M,M to change to M,M,H so i would now be betting 19 units if win quit if lose quit.

if we lose the bet for two seperate times after m,m we add extra unit to the bet.

example


M,
M, BET -19
M,
M,
H,
H, BET -18
H,
M
H
H BET *2 -36
M, BET WON +72


GET THE IDEA PEOPLE FOLLOWING THIS TRHEAD.


ILL DO SOME TESTING ANYWAY.

Matt, I'm not sure if it would be better going up 1 on every loss then down on a win.. if you look below the end result is the same for a win, just a bigger loss if it losses, although more wins if it wins..

1 up every 2 losses.

M,
M, BET -19 
M,      (lose -19) (win +17)
M,
H,
H, BET -18
H,        (lose-37) (win -1)
M
H
H BET *2 -36
M,      (lose -73)  (win -1)

1 up every loss.

M,
M, BET -19
M,       (lose -19) (win +17)
M,
H,
H, BET -36
H,        (lose-55) (win +17)
M
H
H BET *3 -54
M,      (lose -109)  (win -1)


Did a short one here..

[table=,]
START
H
H BET M *1 -18
H LOSE -18
H
M
M BET H *2 -38
H WIN +16
H BET M *1 -18
M WIN +34
H
M
H
H BET M *1 -18
M WIN +52

[/table]


I like the look of that  :)

Waiting for the HHHHHH/MMMMMM streak to pass is probaly going to make this a winning system..thanks for brining it to the forum  :thumbsup:

Cheers,

Rquest

roules

Quote from: kompressor on February 02, 2009, 10:28:09 PM
this has to be played online for sure....

the only problem is....wich casino would let you win thousands every month ??

how long or how much before they pull the plug ??

Cross that bridge when you come to it  ;)

Quote from: kompressor on February 02, 2009, 11:41:21 PM
....i've just read today on joyland that a girl won 4 000 000$ with slut...but in withdrawal section its clearly stated that the maximum you can withdraw is 9 000$ per month....what a scam....isnt it ??no way she's a millionaire and she will never be

That sucks but still $9000/month passive income isn't bad.

Matt! Please just once, spell it properly - it's only two extra letters!.....E.I.T.H.E.R not Eva lol
Only half serious with that though - congrats on your system.


Rquest09

Ok had a thought and can't see why the Even Chance High/Low is any different to the eva side?? much easier to bet on! and could do smaller bets if your bankroll is small and outside bets are high because you can bet on the 3 H/L double streets.

Anyway here is a High/Low session (1u up on a loss and 1 down on a win)and you will see the H & L's come out pretty much the same as the H & M's,

[table=,]
START
L
L BET H 1U
L LOSE    -1
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +2    
H
L
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +1
L   
L BET H 2U
L LOSE    -1
H
L
L BET H 3U
H WIN     +2
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +4
L BET H 1U
L LOSE    +3
L
H
H BET L 2U
H LOSE    +1
L
L BET H 3U
L LOSE    -2
H
H BET L 4U
L WIN     +2
L BET H 3U
L LOSE    -1
H
L
L BET H 4U
L LOSE    -5
H
L
L BET H 5U
L LOSE    -10
L
L
L
L
H
H BET L 6U
L WIN     -4
L BET H 5U
H WIN     +1
H BET L 4U
L WIN     +5
L BET H 3U
H WIN     +8
L
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +10
H
L
H
H BET L 1U
L WIN     +11
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +10
H
L
L BET H 2U
L LOSE    +8
H
H BET L 3U
L WIN     +11
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +13
H
L
H
L
0
H
L
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +12
L
L BET H 2U
L LOSE    +10
L
L
H
H BET L 3U
L WIN     +13
H
H BET L 2U
L WIN     +15
H
H BET L 1U
H LOSE    +14
L
L BET H 2U
H WIN     +16[/table]

Rquest09

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