See the trend, this website is almost as much fun as GG.
I can see differences. It would be amazing if there weren't any. So what?
spins 11 - 44 have the same number of reds/blacks and are choppy. spins 68 - 81 are dominated by one side and are streaky.
Again, what's the point?
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 22, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
Then beyond that there needs to be a way to take what you have and turn it into moments of advantage.
That's the tricky part. I'm all ears.
"Reading the current state of probability" is one thing, but using it to "read" the next state is quite another. You can categorise "states" until the cows come home, but where the next state falls is anyone's guess. :-\
Gizmo,
I applaud your action, I really do.
However, there is no way on earth that I will install an .exe file on any of my computers - you have complete access to every keystroke and every file on my PC and all networked PCs.
Sorry, I won't be joining you on this demo - sorry; nothing personal....
**************** Look at spins 11 to 44 in the black/red. Now compare those to the spins at 68 to 81 in the same section. Can you see differences?*************************
Looking at black/red I see lots of Singles, Two's and Threes between 11 to 44 and a Seven and a Ten between 68 to 81.
Looking at odd/even I see a Six, a Ten and some Singles, Two's and Threes and between 68 to 81 I see an Eight, Singles and Two's.
Don't forget that two from the same pyramid has overall negative eg RBR + RBR only gives +3 not +4 as expected for betting opposite on two Singles but, on the other hand, two patterns from different pyramids has an overall positive eg RBR + BRB returns +5.
To cut out long losses you stop betting after 2 straight losses and wait for long pattern to finish?
My questions then-
Do you always bet on opposite and wait for two losses then start tracking again OR do you always bet on repeat and ride the long strings?
Do you use a progression or always flat bet?
Do you stick to one EC or jump about?
Do you only play for a certain number of spins?
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 22, 2011, 07:57:54 PM
Well I built a unique internet browser to support my MTML experiment. It was inspected to see if it had anything in it like you describe. Both the Mac OSX and Windows versions got a 100% Clean award from Softpedia. I do in fact understand your concern. My charting program will never attempt to connect to the internet. You can have it tested on any machine in the world. You know, some of us just don't go in for that nefarious conduct. Your fears are not unwarranted. I never load anything on my developer machines. They are as clean as a Safeway chicken.
I have no doubt you would not do anything to someone else's PC, but I have material on my PCs that is protected by NDAs and I just can't add an .exe program from anyone but a very trusted corporation.
Sorry...
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 22, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
The point is that you just read randomness.
Thats no more reading randomness than learning to say 'adios' means you know how to speak Spanish. I don't think you even know what reading randomness is, its just a catch phrase you stole from Spike and are trying to cash in on.
"You learn to see as many trends as you can".
Any sequence at all can be interpreted as a trend, that's the problem. If there doesn't seem to be an "obvious" trend then that can be categorised as a "non-trend" trend. If everything can be put into a category for purposes of reading randomness then you have no way of finding out which trends lead to other trends, and so you have no advantage. Your description is far too vague to be of any use.
The premise of your strategy is that some trends lead to other trends with a higher probability than you would expect by chance - yes?
If that ISN'T the case then I don't see how you can get your advantage. This is how I see it but feel free to put me right if I've misunderstood.
LMH is almost entirely singles. A bet against the last dozen only suffers 2 losses over the sample. A "rule" such as wait 3 singles then bet might have you capitalizing on the singles trend with a result of +14 units. You could drop off the singles if 2 or more repeats occur?
BR shows unreliable short streaks. For me the sample looks to be a bit of a grind and best left alone.
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 23, 2011, 06:54:54 PM
So most people are probably saying to themselves "so what?"
No, most are saying 'who cares'. Try selling vacuum cleaners door to door, you'll make more money.
What is a trend?If you see a trend whatever it is will change very fast in the future and you have another trend.You do not give examples of trends and how to use them.Every random sequence is unique. Trends I believe they do not consist.Please explain me but not in riddles.A random sequence oscillate always around a equilibrium.It is possible to learn the features of a balance diagram of amplitude ,wave length and deviations.These features are the basic of a strategy
Am I right in thinking that the trend shifted in the last 50-60 spins?
All you need to do that is to use $25 chips and get a net four wins.>>
Jesus. There you have it folks. Wasn't that easy? Its the same as gold mining, all you have to do is figure out how to get it out of the ground. Thats why Gizmo is here typing and not in the casino winnng.
I can see the trends all right. The more I look the more I see, but isn't that the problem? I can't get past the logic that this can't work. If you were to give us a demo I think it would motivate people to actually give it a try, especially if you made a profit. :)
Quote from: Mike on February 27, 2011, 03:50:28 PM
If you were to give us a demo
He has no demo, he can have no demo because what he has doesn't work consistently. A demo would look like blind luck, and we already know what that looks like.
Quote from: Gizmotron on February 27, 2011, 09:18:02 PM
Be careful of what you ask for Spike. You just might get one.
yawn :wacko:
A demo or a video cannot give an evidence a system is profitable In rouletteplayersclub I have placed stats of my playing on a RNG roulette .All sessions give a profit .Every system can give on the short run a profit.A video of a successful session says nothing about the other sessions.I offer a free live demo, but I do not guarantee every demo is profitable.
Quote from: schoenpoetser on February 28, 2011, 07:47:49 AM
A demo or a video cannot give an evidence a system is profitable In rouletteplayersclub I have placed stats of my playing on a RNG roulette .All sessions give a profit .Every system can give on the short run a profit.A video of a successful session says nothing about the other sessions.I offer a free live demo, but I do not guarantee every demo is profitable.
If you play 2-hours of live Roulette that says a lot about your confidence in a system; win or lose.
Do this 3 times and you have a track record.
If you lose 3 2-hour sessions the system is bogus, fictitious, fraudulent, call it what you want but with 6 hours of playing Roulette and netting a loss nobody will use it.
Follow the money it will tell the truth......
2 hours of live roulette 3 times, that's about 300 spins. Good progression systems can win for tens of thousands of spins and still not have a real edge on the house. Unless we are talking flat bets, this demo doesn't really prove much, and maybe not even then. A demo is a useful teaching tool, that's all.
Quote from: birdhands on February 28, 2011, 11:36:59 PM
2 hours of live roulette 3 times, that's about 300 spins. Good progression systems can win for tens of thousands of spins and still not have a real edge on the house. Unless we are talking flat bets, this demo doesn't really prove much, and maybe not even then. A demo is a useful teaching tool, that's all.
Give me a break!
If a system can't win in 6 hours of play it isn't real - it's delusional - it's phony - it's a con.
You guys sound like you are all theory and no actual playing time in a real casino.
Get real guys.....
I think you misunderstood me. My point was that a system that wins in 6 hours of play is not that hard to come by and really doesn't prove much.
MauiSunset, I hate for it to come to this, but I really don't like you. I find that your presence here is a real drag for me. I'll be ignoring you completely from now on. All the best.
Sam
Quote from: birdhands on March 01, 2011, 12:15:46 AM
I think you misunderstood me. My point was that a system that wins in 6 hours of play is not that hard to come by and really doesn't prove much.
MauiSunset, I hate for it to come to this, but I really don't like you. I find that your presence here is a real drag for me. I'll be ignoring you completely from now on. All the best.
Sam
Then you can't read this - debate is a 2-way street; not a one way street.
P.S.
I don't believe for a second "My point was that a system that wins in 6 hours of play is not that hard to come by and really doesn't prove much".
That Green 0 will show up dozens of times in 6 hours of play.
Hey Giz, thanks for taking the time to make all your posts. It must have taken a while to type the columns up.
You don't have to worry about giving away any secrets. Even if you post it in black and white people reading it still don't see it or understand it lol
Quote from: col1879 on March 02, 2011, 07:19:15 AM
You don't have to worry about giving away any secrets.
Its tough to give secrets away when you don't have any.
Quote from: cheese on March 02, 2011, 08:51:43 PM
Its tough to give secrets away when you don't have any.
That's what most people are thinking. That's how I see it.
Quote from: Gizmotron on March 08, 2011, 07:02:41 PMYou will have failed to stop it. Everyone will soon see that too.
Geez, GET ON WITH IT, then. We're sick to death of hearing about what you're GOING to do. Just DO it or shut up about it already. Sheesh!
If you can't explain it, you don't understand it. If you don't understand it, quit bothering us about it.