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Started by MauiSunset, January 25, 2011, 02:19:08 PM

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MauiSunset

Well I don't have it so let's get that out of the way.

I see a lot of clairvoyants seem to visit this chat room - they have various gifts of predicting the future.

Bunk.

Future random events can't be predicted - period.

There is no way to forecast what comes next on a roulette table - red, black, odd, even, etc - none of them can be forecasted from past events.

Here's the best way to play Roulette that I've found (binary choice only):

Spin the wheel and get the number, color, etc.

Flip a coin:

1) Heads means you use what just happened as the prediction for the next outcome
2) Tails means you use the opposite as the prediction for the next outcome

Now you use the Roulette wheel to make a forecast and a coin insures you don't use pattern matching.

You're biggest problem is our brain's ability to look at things and find patterns which is fine for lots of things but is what kills you when gambling.

After picking a random prediction you are left with money management and that's where you have 100% control over and can spend years of research and find techniques that you feel comfortable with.

That's my only contribution I can make here - for roulette.

Hope this helps. . . . .

Nathan Detroit

Can you imagine  yourself  sitting at a  roulette table in a B & M casino flipping a coin ? Nothing wrong with  your suggestion.BUT .................


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

MauiSunset

Personally I use flip-coin.  com when I gamble on the Internet. 

At Vegas I just look at my watch and look at the seconds (digital watch) and an even second means I use the last outcome from the roulette wheel and odd means I use the opposite.    If you have problems deciding then use your stop watch feature and start it before the next spin and stop it after the number is called.

But whatever you do don't allow your brain to "find a pattern" there are no patterns in random numbers - just pattern matching your brain does very well - even when there are no patterns. 

Nathan Detroit

The Digi watch sound great to me  !!!


Nathan Detroit
HAPPY WINNINGS!!!

gizmotron

Quote from: MauiSunset on January 25, 2011, 02:19:08 PM
Future random events can't be predicted - period. ...

...There is no way to forecast what comes next on a roulette table - red, black, odd, even, etc - none of them can be forecasted from past events.

There is a way to target future spins. But I won't share it with you on an open forum. I won't even validate how it's true and that it happens all the time. I could. I do this because I value it. Not because I wish to be complicated or mean. "It's not personal. It's just business."

MauiSunset

Quote from: Gizmotron link=topic=17734.   msg126361#msg126361 date=1295979271
There is a way to target future spins.    But I won't share it with you on an open forum.       I won't even validate how it's true and that it happens all the time.   I could.   I do this because I value it.   Not because I wish to be complicated or mean.   "It's not personal.   It's just business. "

Easy to say, impossible to prove/verify.     

I have no doubts that folks believe future random events can be predicted - there has never been one instance that has stood up to scrutiny - not one in thousands of years of gambling.     

Here's a simple test where you can demonstrate your prognostication abilities:

Take the close of the DJIA (DOW) each night and do your forecast - e. g.  11,980. 52 was the DJIA close for 1/24/11.    Take that number, multiply by 100 and do a (Modulus) Mod 37 and give us a prediction.   Find the DJIA here hxxp:nolinks. google. com/finance/historical?q=INDEXDJX:.  DJI

The DJIA close on 1/24/11 was 11980. 52*100 = 1198052 the Modulus 37 is 32379. 783 (1198052/37) with the remainder (Modulo 37 - a remainder of 0 to 36) of 29 (1198052 - 32379*37=29). 

On 1/24/11 the roulette wheel spun a 29 (0 = green 0)
1/21/11 11,871. 84 spin = 2
1/20/11 11,822. 80 spin = 19
 

If you have any problems I can update this thread each day with the next spin.   

The Excel formula for cell A2 is =MOD(A1*100,37) with cell A1 having the close of the DJIA

What's your forecast for the next spin of the wheel?  If you need history just go backwards day by day.     

I look forward to your predictions.      .      .      .     

gizmotron

Quote from: MauiSunset on January 25, 2011, 03:45:59 PM
Easy to say, impossible to prove/verify.     

I have no doubts that folks believe future random events can be predicted - there has never been one instance that has stood up to scrutiny - not one in thousands of years of gambling.     

Here's a simple test where you can demonstrate your prognostication abilities:

This complete portion of logic is based on your vast experience I guess? You have your beliefs and they might impress most people. They don't impress me though. You are clueless with regards to what I'm keeping from you and your thousands of years of dumbshits. Your simple test is so far off of what I'm keeping from you that you are clearly on the track for another thousand years. Thank you for being clueless and feel free to mouth off some more with your uniformed opinions.  You are so far off in the weeds that I couldn't have misdirected further if I tried.

col1879

****************What's your forecast for the next spin of the wheel?******************************


I'll predict it will be either 0, 1-18  or 19-36

iggiv

u can flip a coin inside your palms under the table. if u play with a penny a bit (no looking at it) u lose any pattern.
but using a watch in a  casino too frequently may lead to casino stuff being too suspicious if  u win. they may think u have a mini-track device and can just show u the way out.

maybe i am wrong i don't know. but sounds like a realistic scenario. Imagine yourself being a pitboss. Some guy behind the table looking at this watch and wins his bets. I would get suspicious. On the other hand a guy with a coin looks like a talisman freak :)

MauiSunset

Quote from: Gizmotron link=topic=17734.   msg126384#msg126384 date=1295985958
This complete portion of logic is based on your vast experience I guess? You have your beliefs and they might impress most people.    They don't impress me though.    You are clueless with regards to what I'm keeping from you and your thousands of years of dumbshits.    Your simple test is so far off of what I'm keeping from you that you are clearly on the track for another thousand years.    Thank you for being clueless and feel free to mouth off some more with your uniformed opinions.     You are so far off in the weeds that I couldn't have misdirected further if I tried.   

Today the DJIA closed at 11,977. 19 which generates another 29 on the wheel:

This is someone's big opportunity to demonstrate that what they sell is worth more than 2 cents.   .   .   .   .   

Here's some spins generated from the DJIA:
1/18/2011   11,837. 93   15
1/19/2011   11,825. 29   9
1/20/2011   11,822. 80   19
1/21/2011   11,871. 84   2
1/24/2011   11,980. 52   29
1/25/2011   11,977. 19   29

As I said predicting random future outcomes from a random input, like a Roulette wheel, is impossible - no one has ever done it nor will it ever be done in the future.

Gambling is all about knowing the odds which is 100% math and your control over money management, which you have 100% control over.   This goes for any game in a casino.

Leave predicting the future up to fortune tellers. . . .

pins

to play roulette you only have past spins. or nothing. if you study the past spins you will see that numbers follow numbers not all the time but enough to show a profit. i will give you three examples 4.-6. . you reverse them. or3.0.back these numbers for a session and see if you win. and 7.

MauiSunset

Quote from: pins link=topic=17734.  msg126435#msg126435 date=1296012980
to play roulette you only have past spins.   or nothing.   if you study the past spins you will see that numbers follow numbers not all the time but enough to show a profit.   I will give you three examples 4.  -6.   .   you reverse them.   or3.  0.  back these numbers for a session and see if you win.   and 7. 

I encourage you to demonstrate your profitable system in real time - simply make your prediction for tomorrows DJIA spin.   I'm a patient kind of guy - I will gladly supply the DJIA spin each day for years if need be.

I encourage any person with the gift of predicting the future to demonstrate it in real time right here. 

Me, I don't profess to have any such skills.  .  .  . 

gizmotron

Quote from: MauiSunset on January 25, 2011, 09:59:53 PM
As I said predicting random future outcomes from a random input, like a Roulette wheel, is impossible - no one has ever done it nor will it ever be done in the future.

I do it all the time. Not only that but I do it to a mathematical degree of accuracy. At times that accuracy is nearly 100%. But not all the time. Never in all that randomness am I surprised by conditions that seem abnormal. And I'm never taken out of the effectiveness of the trick by my own lack of understanding. You are however taken out by your own findings. In fact you are stuck on what you think is for sure. I'm so glad that I'm not back there in that zone. Keep up the home front. Never say die.

xman1970

Don't worry about Gizmo's rantings MauiSunset  ;)

believe me on the Internet, he IS indeed the most important/intelligent/educated/knowledgeable person on the planet...... :o

After all NOBODY has ever lied on the Internet have they ??


Tribes around the world do indeed, pray to his image........ :rtfm:

gizmotron

Don't worry about xman1970. Since her sex change back in 1970 she has made it clear that she is threatened by her own missing phallic symbol and her inability to control her PMS. It has obviously driven her crazy. She thinks she is going to save the world of Roulette players by b***h slapping the internet. Perhaps it's because she can't slap mister happy anymore that has her so frustrated.

gizmotron

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