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Title: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Just_Gabe on May 10, 2009, 03:55:50 AM
Hi there, I'm new as you can see and I recently started using a system to win at roulette.
It ended up being cool and won a good deal of bucks after 30 minutes of playing.
But when I tried to withdraw my winnings I received an email from the support staff from
the casino (I'm playing at the Casino Tropez btw) that my withdraw was rejected, since
the roulette is on the list of "excluded games".   So I looked at the ToS and found this:

7.  Bets placed on all versions of Baccarat, all versions of Roulette, all versions of Sic Bo, all versions of Darts, Heads or Tails, all Video Poker games, Blackjack Switch, Blackjack Surrender, Pontoon, and Craps will not be counted toward wagering requirements. 

Also, I was asked to wager a minimum of $3500 before withdrawing any winnings.

Have anyone faced this problem with online casinos? what can I do?

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Shorty on May 10, 2009, 06:00:20 AM
You can't do anything. That's what happens if you take a casino bonus.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: trylobit on May 10, 2009, 07:37:38 AM
You took the bonus from the casino so you agreed with this.

IMPORTANT:
NEVER TAKE ANY BONUSES FROM CASINOS.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Steve on May 28, 2009, 11:48:07 PM
Just some advice about online casinos.  Of course never play RNG, only real.  But always, always look at the jurisdiction of the casino.  Things like USA in the domain like usa casino dont mean anything.  Some of the dodgiest casinos are based in costa rica and why? Because they can get away with murder.  Like casinowebcam that have refused many payouts.  If you read their terms, you understand they can "legally" refuse any payout.  So why bother playing there if they can screw you over legally?
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: RPro75 on May 29, 2009, 01:10:56 AM
Quote from: Steve Hourmouzis on May 28, 2009, 11:48:07 PM
Just some advice about online casinos.  Of course never play RNG, only real.  But always, always look at the jurisdiction of the casino.  Things like USA in the domain like usa casino dont mean anything.  Some of the dodgiest casinos are based in costa rica and why? Because they can get away with murder.  Like casinowebcam that have refused many payouts.  If you read their terms, you understand they can "legally" refuse any payout.  So why bother playing there if they can screw you over legally?
There are plenty of "legit" online casinos to choose from.  There is nothing wriong with RNG except that it is harder for Steve to explain the failure of his $2000+ systems on RNG.  Can't blame the wheel that way.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Steve on May 29, 2009, 02:21:17 AM
Rpro, you say there's nothing wrong with RNG? Ok, I wont bother. Also my systems fail and I'm a scammer. You are right. You win. Not sure what you have against me Rpro, but I have no intentions of arguing with a man that thinks advantage play is a scam, and who thinks RNG is fine to play against.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Steve on May 31, 2009, 09:05:05 PM
By the way Rpro, if you're bitter for being banned on my forum, you need to be aware I actually defended you because you were contributing, but you were not handling criticisms too well. In the end, you flipped and attacked others, and you knew very well what that would mean - banning. So dont childishly blame me for that. I see you were banned from here too. Who knows why.. probably similar reasons. Either way I suggest removing the "pro" from your name - you may mislead people into thinking you know something about roulette.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Just_Gabe on June 02, 2009, 03:40:12 PM
From my personal experience RNG's are fair, I've been winning a lot these past days with the Lw method (thanks Victor and Lanky! :)) in Casino Tropez.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Steve on June 02, 2009, 07:24:58 PM
It depends on what your definition of fair is. When you consider an online casino, check the terms and conditions - this is vital. Often the conditions make it possible for the casino to legally avoid payouts. Then also in the terms and conditions, check the JURISDICTION of the casino. If it's something like Costa Rica, forget it - such casinos have refused many payouts.

If you play online, make sure it's a casino that's not in some third world country.

Yes RNGs generally are "fair" according to the rules of roulette, but playing against RNG is completely different to real wheels. Put it this way.. RNG is GAMBLING without any potential for professional advantage play. You can only win consistently with real wheels.

Gabe, if you are winning that's great, but keep in mind any system can do well in the short term. I dont know anything about the "lw" method but in my experience you can only win consistently with inside bets and real wheels. I really sincerely would love to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: billzman on June 06, 2009, 09:15:49 PM
I'm very new to playing roulette so I was wondering, playing "live roulette casinos online" is that similar to playing in a real casino?
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on June 06, 2009, 09:25:30 PM
Hi Billzman
Yes playing a live online casino is just like playing at a real casino.
Some are more honest and trust worthy than others though so do be careful about which one(s) you play at.
Check in this forum for recommended casinos or check here
nolinks://nolinks.casinocity.com/
Good luck and welcome
TSK
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: billzman on June 07, 2009, 12:50:19 AM
Hi The Spiders Kiss

Thanks for the advice I'm looking forward to playing, but to all so learn from people like yourself and many others on this forum.


Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Just_Gabe on June 07, 2009, 03:24:12 PM
I might try live table in the future...thanks a lot for the info spider kiss!
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: The Spiders Kiss on June 07, 2009, 03:25:23 PM
Your both welcome........Good Luck
TSK
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Proofreaders2000 on June 27, 2009, 02:47:40 PM
"I'm very new to playing roulette so I was wondering, playing "live roulette casinos online" is that similar to playing in a real casino?"--Billzman

Watch the word live make sure the jurisdiction is not in a rogue country like Coast Rica-and make sure you can see others betting on the same wheel you're betting on (a casino atmosphere)---be careful of a small room pictured with just the spinner--that's a trap. 
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 06, 2009, 05:45:21 PM
All

Again I must stand up for Casinowebcam.  I have collected money from them when I could play there.  Not a question asked.  When I was banned by the U.S., Casinowebcam sent back my $500 bankroll I had with them without even being asked.

I have heard from many writers they have refused payout.  Unless I am sadly mistaken they're located in the UK or at least their offices are.  I think the actual wheel is in the Philippines.  Does the UK not have rules?

As to a wheel in a little room.......Proof, I hope I don't start a polemic with ya, bro but I must disagree.  Both the Microgaming and Playtech wheels have no people surrounding them like Dublin.  Surely they are not all crooked.

And, yes, there is a fair RNG wheel....Bet Voyager.

Sam
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: Steve on July 08, 2009, 01:49:01 AM
Casinowebcam are based in Costa Rica, and several of my players have been refused payouts.
Title: Re: Problems cashing out from an online casino?
Post by: TwoCatSam on July 08, 2009, 01:16:38 PM
....and the beat goes on!