Designing a good plan of attack.

[straight-talker]

I would like to start a thread on designing a good plan of attack. There are times when I play and I am going nowhere fast. When this is happening you need to conserve your chips otherwise you will be out the door with the other losers before very long. If you have a good gameplan and you can ride out the storm. Once the storm is over a small positive progression can put you in front for the night and you can cash in your profits and go home smiling.
All that is fine to say but how can it be done? Looking for unequal distribution and milking it when the time is right can achieve the desired result.
There are many questions then to ask.
Should I play inside numbers.
columns, dozens.
even chances.
I am sure playing even chances is the best way to take advantage of unequal distribution. Even doing it this way, you need to be on the ball. I have known a few gamblers in my time who thought playing two dozens or columns was a good idea covering two thirds of the wheel. If they got off to a bad start, they were in trouble. When you get ahead a few, it only takes a few spins to grab your chips back. It is only an illusion that you have any kind of edge playing this way.
Covering just a few numbers can lead to disaster, unequal distribution here can wipe you out quickly. You sometimes get lucky and hit a few early but a long losing streak is never far away. One thing you should be looking to avoid is the long losing streak, it is not good for the heart and mind of a gambler.
That leaves the even chances, more or less 50/50. This is workable. Using a positive progression can help.
1 unit placed, win 2
2 unit placed, win 4
3 unit placed, win 8
So after 3 spins, your 1 chip has won you 7 plus your 1 back. For me this is a winner, there is enough unequal distribution to take advantage of the positive progression in most sessions. Playing for three is not greedy.
So designing an attack not to get you into trouble and then taking advantage when favourable circumstances come your way is the way to go for the grinding player. I would like to think this can be discussed and a very favourable gameplan can be developed.

straight-talker.

[TwoCatSam]

straight

I used the VLS Lw method of tracking dozens and columns and, yes, betting 24 numbers at a pop.  While the odds are slightly less than one to two, I still made a profit.  How?  By watching what the wheel was doing and going along for the ride.  I never used a progression and won around a thousand using $5 bets.

When I logged on, if I saw a bunch of these:  LLL  LLL  LLL, I just logged out and came back later.  If I were betting and this happened, I would quit for the time being and come back later. When I saw LLw or LwLwLw or Lww Lww, I played.

The VLS Lw method is probably the most boring way to play ever invented.  It's a grind.  Your bankroll inches up $5.00 at a time; then you lose $10.  But the graph creeps constantly and slowly upward!!  Geez, it's pretty!

So, why am I not playing it?  

At a live casino, people have to ask why the silly-looking strips of paper and what I am doing.  OK, thanks Bro, I'm lost now and the dealer just waved his hand.  Oh, great!  I should have bet.  Someday I'll go three frickin' days without a shower before sitting down to play.  I put on my "Grouchy Ol' S.O.B." face, but even that doesn't work.

On line, you ask?  Well, I'm not a $50 per dozen/column bettor and that's what it would take at Riverbelle.

As far as I'm concerned the VLS Lw Methodology is a winner.  Lanky won most of Australia using it!!  

Samster

[straight-talker]

Hello Sam, I read some of Lanky's posts and he seems to be grinding out the profits. It can get boring playing that way.
Mind you the exchange rate for excitement is losing your arse every so often  
I think a bank clerk could have more fun than playing the way I do. Then again it was my choice to find a way to go home with my money every night. I have not really looked into Victor's LW strategy. It is something that I will investigate and see if it can help me
improve my game.
It is a shame that you folks in the U.S. can not play online. I know what you mean about the curiosity marking everything down attracts. I wish I had a dollar though for everytime I was still sitting there grinding it out well they were raking their trousers for any loose change to finish it off.

[TwoCatSam]

A quote from you, straight, from you challenge thread.........

"I play a grinding system that returns me a regular income."

Yet you are here wanting to design a good plan of attack........

I'm confused....

Between you and NoMoreBets, I'm seeing the Boogeyman behind every tree!!

Oh, boy!  Maybe I am paranoid!

Sam

[straight-talker]

I am going to explain my method in this thread, but I am not just going to give it out and say "go away and chew on that" I want people to understand where I am coming from first and what my thoughts are. It will then make it a lot easier for people to understand my game. There are loads of systems that just get put up, people look at them and then go on to the next one. My method deserves better than that.

straight-talker.

[bloomone2002]

Great work guys. I think the LW methodology is a great way of isolating Unequal distribution patterns, then the trick becomes capitalizing on those patterns. ie the play for or against or both on the unequal distribution.
Bloom

[bloomone2002]

I am going to explain my method in this thread, but I am not just going to give it out and say "go away and chew on that" I want people to understand where I am coming from first and what my thoughts are. It will then make it a lot easier for people to understand my game. There are loads of systems that just get put up, people look at them and then go on to the next one. My method deserves better than that.

straight-talker.

Amen to the "go away and chew on that" quote, you are preachin to the choir here.
Refreshing, Straight
Bloom

[bloomone2002]

TCS, you are definitely on a roll today

FYI: Straight, Lanky has expanded on much of Victor's LW strategy.

[TwoCatSam]

OK...gots my paranoia under control....

Mr. talker

I'll make you a brother-in-law deal.  (That's a good deal here in Oklahoma)

You put up your system.  My wife is going for knee surgery next Tuesday.  I will have some time alone while she is in therapy for a couple of hours a day.  I will download and screen-record numbers from Riverbelle and use them for study.  I will test your system through 1,000 spins and see if there is an inkling that something is going on.  Nacherly, I will post the results.

I also plan to test clothdog's and Turbo's much more.  

Sam

[winkel]

This seems to be a revolution:

[highlight]That leaves the even chances, more or less 50/50. This is workable. Using a positive progression can help.  
1 unit placed, win 2
2 unit placed, win 4
3 unit placed, win 8 [/highlight]

Please explain how you make the dealer pay 8 for 3 on EC.

br
winkel

[TwoCatSam]

winkel

Surely he meant 4 pays 8, huh.

straight

Because of what winkel said I re-read you post.  Playing two dozens/columns will certainly not give you a mathematical advantage.  We must all come to understand that a mathematical advantage does not exist in roulette.  In a billion years, you cannot add 2+2 and get 4 + one-billionth more.  You'll just get four.  

Where we may gain an advantage is in the fact that events happen quite evenly for a while and then in clusters.  35 will sleep for 74 spins and then hit twice within four spins.  (That is a profitable system for me!)

With the VLS Lw Methodology I sit down and say, "The wheel seems to be doing this."  That is not to say it will continue doing it.  In fact, one can bet it will stop doing it---sooner or later!  For me, the trick was to bet with deadly accuracy, have a stop-loss and a stop-win that prevented me from losing all my profits.  I seldom walked away until I sensed the tide was turning.  

Sam

[straight-talker]

Yes, I mean 4 returns you 8.  
If 3 would pay 8 on even chances. We would be much richer  
Sam, where did I say playing two dozens gives you an advantage. My actual words were that some players seem to think they have an edge this way, and really that is an illusion on their part. God forbid I would ever make such a statement.
Time for a [smiley=bath.gif] before I go for a[smiley=beer.gif] will be back later to explain a few things about my game.

straight-talker.

[TwoCatSam]

straight

You're right.  I read that wrong.  Sorry, Bro.......

Sam

[bloomone2002]

Sam, if you use combinational application, 2+2 can equal any value within the combinational mathematical structure you created. Therefore, in the game you could get 3 units = 8 wins

example:
using the complete structure as a single bet placement
1 u on Black= 6u L =2u
2 u on Even = 6u  W = 4u
3 u on High = 6u  W = 6u
total = -2 + 4 + 6 = 8u
Just thinking outside the box, but within the rules
Bloom

[straight-talker]

I was reading posts written by Victor and Lanky and our styles of play are more or less identical.
It is very true that you need to know your game inside out and all the subtle changes that can occur.
If you can spot what is happening as you go along, you can react accordingly.
Lanky is spot on when he talks about the clusters of LL in his 2 dozens method. If you have the patience to sit through the storm, you can then make your profits when the calm returns.
You earn my respect Lanky, you found something that appealed to your personality, and you run with it and are grinding some profit.
Mr J was right when he said that there comes a time when you need to stop looking and tweak something to suit your style. If you are going to play, you have to make it work for you sometime or you are in a loop that will just keep going.
Well done Victor and Lanky, you saw it, run with it and deserve the rewards.
There may never be a more disciplined and steady approach to the game discovered and to beat it, you got to have the right approach.

straight-talker.

[straight-talker]

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