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Started by thomasgrant, April 14, 2009, 02:04:57 AM

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Spike

You haven't got a mechanical system that wins, nobody does. And you know it.

TwoCatSam

Spike

You're right, Spike.  You and Herb and Skrizy and Number Six are all right.  I have played the thing for about three months; you guys have never played it but you all know a lot more about it than I do.

I'm through discussing this.  I only  ran a test on the bot.  I said I would report truthfully and I did.  How you people can find fault with that amazes me.

If I crash I will post it. 

Sam

Skrizy

@Twocatsam

For so far i have no reason to believe you are a liar. U have posted bad and good things about this bot and other systems, winning or loosing (see gut). As far as u say that u are testing this indipendent from Thomas grant and co is something i might believe. I have no personal vendetta against u. I however feel uncomfortable about the fact that there are ppl posting about a winning automated system (even several systems with the same bot), when that is something i find hard to believe. NOBODY has posted results that came even close to those of thomas grant. In science u have to be able to produce the same results with the same tools over and over again. I don't see that happening.

Kind Regards,
Skrizy.

thomasgrant

Quote from: The Force on July 09, 2009, 02:09:40 PM
I think you all misunderstanding each other.

If a system lose (and that is all system I know of), it does not mean that someone can't win with it.  Someone can still win with a losing system.  I know a friend who is winning for over a year with martingale on even but we all know that it will lose eventually.  Maybe with super roulette, 1 person is winning and 50 are losing.  But that one person is not tell lie.  He tell truth that it work for him, but the system is still losing one.

I think thomasgrant is winning, and he is not scammer.  He really believe it working because it work for him.  Although many other are losing with it.

So thomasgrant and twocatssam or not lying when they say that thomas win with super roulette.  But also I think that many people will lose with it. 

Heal the world, make it a better place.  For you and me and the human race  :dance1:

Thank you.
The Force.

From the start of this post.
From post number 1.
I have tried to keep an accurate account of what I was doing.
With pictures. With graphs.
With account details.
With money going in.
And money going out.

Just got a big fat payout.
And trying to decide if I should post all the details in here.
Since we all know that bots don't work. Apparently.
Not sure if I should even bother.
Will speak to Matt, see what he says.

Number Six

Why doesn't super roulette set up his own forums on his own site? It isn't difficult. It takes literally 10 minutes. I don't understand why you have to advertise and aggressively market this bot here. You are like annoying little touts peddling crap out of a suitcase on a street corner. Bots are for losers. No serious player would ever consider using a bot system. VLS is on a downtrend, much like Twocat's bankroll, and it is mainly due to people like Grant and super roulette, and all those idiots that have attacked Hampshire in the past.

Shorty

Thomasgrant, you are an affiliate to Super Roulette, yes? I don't blame most people for being sceptical of your winnings.

super-roulette

Quote from: Shorty on July 09, 2009, 10:19:19 PM
Thomasgrant, you are an affiliate to Super Roulette, yes? I don't blame most people for being sceptical of your winnings.

I have not one affiliate.

Matt

thomasgrant

QuoteIn science u have to be able to produce the same results with the same tools over and over again. I don't see that happening.

And explain how that is possible with Roulette?
How can anyone produce the same results with a game of chance?
Each person has their own method of playing.
Each person has their own Balance.
The only way for anything close to producing similar results.
Is if some of the members got together.
Decided on a time and date to play.
Go to a live table.
Do a video call.
So we can synchronize our game.
Start at the same time.
Start with the same balance.
Start with the same system.
Exact same settings.
Exact same numbers coming in.
Since many live in different time zones.
It may be difficult to do.
Not impossible.
But difficult.

As for Rng.
Well we all get different results when playing that.
Has anyone else been asked to provide similar results with any other system, or non system?
Look at how many tried the complicated G.U.T idea.
Did anyone of those that tired it get similar results?
Or lets say Martingale.
Many that have tried playing a basic martingale system. Have failed.
Some do better than others.
Some are just lucky.
Again, no similar results.
The people playing it would all have to agree on using the same bet size.
Even then with RNG on different tables.
The results will vary.
Saying that it has to produce the same results is ridiculous.
It's roulette. Its a game. It's a game of chance.

It like saying that two scientist walk into a casino.
Both with the same theory.
Both with the same bank balance.
They sit at the same table.
In theory both should get the same results.
If they place the bets on the same part of the table.

But then you have to factor in human nature.
One may do something different.
Because he/she may have a better idea.
Again, down to human nature.
Especially when it comes to Casinos.

Go and rent out Oceans 11, 12, and 13.

Or get the tv series Las Vegas.

As for producing similar results.
Skrizy or the Spike method.
Has anyone tried their methods and got similar results?
Have they been scientifically tested so that they produce the same results?
Exact same results? No.
So again they are talking out of their ...


thomasgrant

QuoteWhy doesn't super roulette set up his own forums on his own site?

It does. And a very lively one at that.
With some very good ideas in there.
Always improving on what we have.
And Tiago keeps on making the bot even better.

Skrizy

@ Mr Thomas Grant

I realy loved you're post, proofs to me what I've always thought, that u are ignorant about: roulette randomness, how u scientificly test something and how u think u know everything. What I said about producing the same results with the same tools IS A FACT. It's called reliability. And I will define it for u, because of you're lazyness and I realy want u to understand this. It means that on any given time, using the same settings one must be able to produce the same results. Scientists do it every day. Do u realy think u need the same numbers in order to get the same results ( if that is true than MR thomas grant u are the proud owner of a brain the size of a walnut)?? And I will give an example to make it realy easy. 2 different teams of scientists do a research, seperated in time, with the same questionary, the same software to analyze the results. and they target the same population (background and demographicly). They will if the questionery and software is genuine produce the same results. This means the research is a succes. Now here is the catch. Do u think that all those ppl from the 2 seperated groups all gave the same answers, NO, Yet the results are similar. This is because answers even eachother out and u get averages!! SAME thing happens on roulette!! SO in order for me to believe the system behind the bot is a consistent winner u must act like a scientist! Use 2 indipented parties, let the bot run on the same amount of numbers (NUMBERS CAN'T BE THE SAME!!! I hope u understood) using the same settings. Best would be that there are several witnesses, because we are dealing with fragile material here. Than after the amount of spins results must be similar. I don't mean they have to be exact the same, almost is enough (there is some variance). Pass this test and I will genuinly excuse myself to everyone who is related to this topic. Until that time comes I will be a critic and a pain in the ass.

As always,

Kind Regards,
Skrizy.

thomasgrant

Well thank you Skrizy for that outstanding explanation.
Again full marks. Note: still no claims to prove what he is saying.
But it was fun reading it.
Keep up the above excellent posts.
I find them so full of swiss cheese.
That you could almost call them holy.
Hahahah

I never claimed to know everything.
Your the one that says Roulette can be scientifically proven.
Yet I see no evidence anywhere in this forum of it.
Getting similar results from a rng playtech casino?
Who are you kidding here?
I think your claims that it can be duplicated are totally bonk.
And your the one that should be called a scammer.

Skrizy is a scammer.
How about that for a topic?

thomasgrant

QuoteMR thomas grant u are the proud owner of a brain the size of a walnut)??

Ahh nice, and here I was thinking that I had one much smaller.
Thanks for the upgrade. I like walnuts.

Skrizy

Dear thomas grant,

U fail to read and U fail to understand. Maybe i didn't explain well enough. Its nog roulette that needs research and i never intended to mean that. Its the results of the bot that needs scientific testing in order for people to see wether it performs like all the claims that have been made. This would mean that this bot and the system(s) behind it differs from others (usualy scams). Without the proof its just a pile of...


Kind regards,
Skrizy.

thomasgrant

Quote from: Skrizy on July 10, 2009, 01:57:29 PM
Dear thomas grant,

U fail to read and U fail to understand. Maybe I didn't explain well enough. Its nog roulette that needs research and I never intended to mean that. Its the results of the bot that needs scientific testing in order for people to see wether it performs like all the claims that have been made. This would mean that this bot and the system(s) behind it differs from others (usualy scams). Without the proof its just a pile of...


Kind regards,
Skrizy.

Well, Mr Skrizy.
I have provided proof in every post.
With screen grabs of what my outcome has been.
Others that have used it may have different results.
I think Matt has been more than generous to you in offering you a test of the bot.
Well I think he did.
I will have to read up on the posts again.
Now if you consider me to have a brain the size of a walnut.
Then how could I possibly doctor any of countless pictures that have been posted?
Or come up with a way to use a txt file to manipulate the graphs?
Apparently I am not smart enough to do that.
Ergo. What I have posted. Is my own personal experience with this particular bot.
Others may have very different results.
They may use different settings than I do.
Perhaps the rng on BV was good to me.
Who knows. Who cares.
You seem to.
So I will keep on posting my results.
Till I have what I desire.
And that is a Blue Corvette.
Something that makes get out of bed.
And have a go.

xman1970

This is NOT aimed at any individual.....


Discussion is fine guys but pls let's remember to NOT make it personal  8)


Thx you one & all..... :good:

xman1970

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