As the titles "says".
What system do you think its better for a no zero wheel?
IMPORTANT: Betvoyager no zero roulette is a scam.
See nolinks://nolinks.roulettephysics.com/betvoyager-no-zero-roulette/ (nolinks://nolinks.roulettephysics.com/betvoyager-no-zero-roulette/)
messing around with this system below, at the moment on single zero with nice profits. You could try it on non zero in fun play and see if you like it.
nolinks://vlsroulette.com/vls'-notes/curious-'follow-the-stream'-version/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/vls'-notes/curious-'follow-the-stream'-version/)
Always test any system for a long period before playing for real even if you have money to burn. Loving the system above for now, but could all change for the worse at the drop of a hat. Who knows?
Hey Angel. Is this "no-zero" wheel an RNG wheel at BetVoyager? Be careful. (Although there is a debate about making money on an electric wheel), IMO you might fare better on a real Roulette Wheel (with the zero).
Im not sure i understand. Its rng roulette at betvoyager.
BetVoyager may have a "no-zero" wheel, but they charge 10% to withdraw (house edge). Many here at VLS believe that RNG (electric software roulette) is not a "real" roulette wheel (no moving parts), just graphic images that can be manipulated by the casino against you.
To answer your original question about what's the best system for RNG roulette, Ulysses (above) knows his way around RNG roulette and has two systems that may be of interest. "Fouroulette System" and "Logical Positivism System". Both are based on combinations of RNG biased numbers that tend to win more than the others.
By the way, the 10% is charged only on the net winnings, not all your withdrawal. Say you deposit 100 and win 60, now your balance is 160 and you decide to withdraw it all, the 10% commission is applied only to the 60, so it's -6. You end up with 154.
Overall, if you do the math, the odds are still better than a single zero roulette wheel.
They use TRNG (true random number generation) and have been, in my experience, legitimate so far. I used them (and asked people who do use them about their experience) and can confirm that there simply is no sign of any "manipulation" and they pay out your winnings smoothly.
My dear friend,
Its not the Zero killing player in roulette, its the Sleepers.
:'( :'(
I hope you understand that. There is no difference if you play zero or non zero wheel.
Regards
Ok. I stand corrected on the 10% house edge at BetVoyager. However, IMO you're dealing with computers, TRNGs (atmospheric noise), there is a built-in advantage for the casino with electronic roulette RNG's--why do they offer RNGs more than the live wheels online (and now land casinos are offering more RNG games). At least with a live (real) wheel, you have physics to aid you in reducing the house edge and a friendly cropier to talk with while you play.
Im playing(testing) almost a month using hammys system (hxxp: vlsroulette. com/full-systems/my-single-street-system/). Real money but with small bet and im winning every day.
The last 2 days im "chasing" the dozens and it seems its working good.
keep playing hammys system Angel if it's working out for you now. Keep your stakes low and drip feed your profits, soon you will have your own well, thats if you can keep your cool for another 2 years or so.
I tend to agree with proofreader on the minus 10% claus. It seems a bit of a cheek confiscating a portion of your winnings. On the other hand it could be just a marketing tactic to pull in more roulette players, making the player think he will have a massive advantage (when really its only a small advantage gained).
I wonder what casino will bring out the first 35 pocketed land based real roulette wheel with the same 35 to 1 straight up odds. As if.
Quote from: Ulysses on December 19, 2009, 12:16:50 PM
it could be just a marketing tactic to pull in more roulette players, making the player think he will have a massive advantage (when really its only a small advantage gained)
That's exactly what it is.
But then again you can't expect a perfectly fair game. Whether you are a gambler or a trader you always have to deal with commissions, that's how these websites make their money.
Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on December 19, 2009, 01:39:57 AM
why do they offer RNGs more than the live wheels online (and now land casinos are offering more RNG games)
Because it's cheaper. With just RNG you only pay for the software. If you want live dealer games in your casino you pay for the software AND the live feed (for which you keep paying for, I believe).
I have to say the only RNG I'd trust for now is BetVoyager's. Other than that I'd prefer live dealer games. Their only disadvantage is the slowness, to me at least. 40 spins per hour gets boring especially if I need to play like 200 spins per session.
I have had a long time testing my dynamic differential bet. It isn't super hard to understand, handles the streaks of roulette very nicely (not to mention the chops! :good:), and has built in stop losses. You will need to set your own win targets, which is what I am working on this very evening.
The system is posted here at the sister site: nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9054.0 (nolinks://nolinks.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9054.0)
I'm quite proud of it and it is perfectly well suited to no-zero RNG
Hope you enjoy it!
could you post it here? I just don't need to join any more forums. I am trying to stay active with what I have got right now and it takes a lot of time to be active in all of them
thanks :thank_you:
no 0 roulette ??? where?
No Zero Roulette is at BetVoyager Casino . . . .nolinks.betvoyager.com (nolinks://nolinks.betvoyager.com)
The do not allow USA citizens as well as some other countries so you may not be allowed.
Nick
Why do people play no zero wheels?
They take 10% of any winnings you might secure.
Single zero wheels are 2.7%.
I don't get it??? :girl_prepare_fish:
Hi Bombus . . .
I will tell you why I like to play No Zero Roulette.
I am not good enough in math to tell you whether 10% of winnings is better or worse than 2.7% house edge.
However, I am into coding bots and from this perspective, No Zero tables have the advantage of placing unlimited virtual bets at no cost.
So now I can have the bot play virtual no cost bets until such time as I have a bet to make which would have a Std deviation of 3.0 or higher.
For example, I can have the bot play for free until I have 18 Consecutive Reds and then I will have the bot start place bets on Black.
Now it may be true that the Casino will frown upon placing so many virtual bets but the point is I have the ability to do so if needed.
Just my 2 cents on why I use a No Zero Wheel.
Nick
The 10% I ONLY charged on the netwinnings and is NOT a 10% advantage for the Casino. There is no advantage other than the betting limits, but that goes for all types of roulette. Otherwise everybody would win if they had enough money.
The big difference with no zero roulette is that the player is not expected to lose like in zero roulette. Therefore the casino has to take 10 percent of the winnings. So it is more of a tax than an advantage. Players that are good will enjoy more wins, and can use particular systems targeted for no zero roulette. Not having to bother with a zero is a big deal.
Here is a cool strategy for the streets: Roulette Strategy Video - Win at Online Casinos - Streets Jackpot (nolinks://nolinks.youtube.com/watch?v=NKzu8pJN9ZY#ws)
No system beats a slot machine. Thats what you're playing.
If you arenotableto beat NON-Zero Roulette ,no HOuse egde,you won´t beat the normal one.
The Question was ,is there a Strategie that beat´s the Wheel with +-0 Edge
I think only with progressions an bet on double EC Red+Impair or Black+Pair
The Outcome is 10 times * 2 Units * 2 = 40/36 = 4/36 = 1/9
CU
GB
I've tried Betvoyager
nolinks://nolinks.vlsroulette.com/index.php?topic=20967.0