[RESTORED] MISTARLUPO, SPIKE, WINKEL on PLAYING

[VLSroulette]

Victor, have you ever shared the Labby here?

Yes, it is under the "Leftmost cancellation" thread.

My implementation was the production/recovery combo. I would put a bet on 5 double-streets (and hence get frequent wins of +1). Then when Zero or the uncovered double-street appeared, I would use the whole 2000-unit bank to recover the -5. Proportionally I only needed a very little % upwards which was not insane. Once it broke even, then back to "production stage" with the 5 Double-street for the frequent +1 wins.

As soon as this bet missed again, the cycle repeated.

Win goal being +50 units.

A grind which could last for many hours, but I was having success on it. Problem being it was getting thougher and thougher as time went by, because of the larger my played spin-sample the larger the "negative swings" were getting against the system...

[Spike]

because of the larger my played spin sample the largest the "swings" against the system...>>

Thats not why it failed. There were times when you shouldn't have played it and you can't read the random so you had no idea when those times were. You got too many back to back sessions that you shouldn't have played, thats all. I have periods in my method when I shouldn't be playing, but I'm at a point where most of the time I break even during those times or just plain stop betting until conditions improve. The random moves like a roller coaster, up and down, hills and valleys, its unavoidable.

[VLSroulette]

You got too many back to back sessions that you shouldn't have played, thats all.

Thanks for your advice Spike.

I do agree at times it would have been better to simply have stayed home. Specially when in the middle of one of those "valleys" where hit rate is going downhill and no increase on your betting unit can do anything against the persistent misses. No hits no glory, simple as that.

This is why I do agree it is better to refine your bet selection and then pay attention to money management.

[Spike]

Its best if you totally understand your system and how it works under all conditions before you put one dime on the table. Something thats easy to play and recovers quickly. Stick with the EC's and you'll never go wrong. All the bets in roulette are equal, yet everybody loves those streets and straight up bets because they erroneously think they are getting more bang for their bet. They're not.

[mistarlupo]

Spike, you said:

I have periods in my method when I shouldn't be playing, but I'm at a point where most of the time I break even during those times or just plain stop betting until conditions improve.

But you also said:

Waiting never improves your odds, don't make me tell you why.

There's some difference between "waiting" and "stop betting until conditions improve", obviously.
I'm confused. Can you please explain it for us? Thank you.

Regards,
Lupo

[winkel]

There's some difference between "waiting" and "stop betting until conditions improve", obviously.>>>

Many people wait to bet because they think their odds of winning are better. I stop because I'm breaking even and am tired of it, so I wait till conditions improve. The odds are the same, the odds are always the same if you wait or you bet.

Hi spike,

you are right and wrong at the same time.

watching what is going on is not waiting it is analysing.

When you see you are getting down, why not stop? Run down the hill deep into sea? No!

We all know that there are three different kinds odds behave:

1. I´m winning
2. I´m losing
3. It is going up and down and I have to stop at zero level or just a small win.

If I see nothing works. I quit.
That doesn´t change the odds at all, but I stop losing.

If I bet 13 units and stop losing. The odds of every following coup are still 13/37 against 24/37. so the 24 is winning. I don´t change odds, I just watch until the winning streak of 24 is changing to a losing streak.
This is the difference not the odds.

BTW: What is the satisfaction being around telling all people they ar too stupid to play and they know nothing?
I give the answer to you: nobody is listening to you in your real life, because you don´t help you just always depress the people next to you.

br
winkel

[Spike]

BTW: What is the satisfaction being around telling all people they ar too stupid to play and they know nothing?>>

Are you asking me that question? If thats all you get from my posts, then maybe you should read them closer. Just because I don't pat somebody on the back and dance with glee at every losing system I see posted that I've seen a hundred times before, and congratulate the poster and declare him a genius, that doesn't mean they know nothing nor do I tell them they know nothing. I just tell them it won't work and move on. I don't have time to waste, do you?

[Spike]

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