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The > BlackPearl Double DZ/CL Strategy < Enjoy !!!

Started by BlackPearl, May 16, 2010, 08:41:20 AM

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BlackPearl

Quote from: keel44 on June 04, 2010, 02:19:04 PM
O.K. Thank You.  I understand pretty good now.  I just need confirmation about when to reset. 

Do you reset ALL progressions back to basic bet of -1- only when your at a new profit? 
Yes, ALL progression will be resetted back to -1-/-1-, when profit is on new overall hight !

Because you could get a partial win, and your balance still be negative....do you continue increasing the other one?
Yes, when there is a partial win and my balance is still negative, the running (current) bet will be encreased furtheron according to the strategy rules posted above!

Again: THX greatly 4 Your engagement, Keely and Snow!

Always Yours
ROLF
  :thumbsup:

snoowly

that's clear in my mind now :) thanks all

Ah and of course we can start one progression with LD instead SD? when we lose first time with initial bet
because sometimes, one dozen sleeps very long time and the way to start progression on LD maybe can prevent little bit to have one sleeper dozen very long with progression on it. 

i know, you will say to me the same event can happen with LD and can alternate all time and never 2 time the same dozen. . so. . . i dont know.  i will keep your rules :)


BlackPearl

Hello Snoowly,

You will love the strategy more and more by spending some
time on doing exercise on it...

ENJOY and have a nice weekend!!!

Sincerely,
ROLF
  :thumbsup:

snoowly

tHANKS YOU

I think I got it . 

just for be sure, if we start second independant progression on LD, and we have one partial hit on it, we reset bet to 1 for this LD and let same bet on SD, it it right?

we do this until we are in total profit? this will happen only when SD will come (this is DOZEN we have most chip)  but because we dont increase fibonnacci on SD when LD win, progression dont go up so fast, it is right again?

;)

BlackPearl

Quote from: snoowly on June 06, 2010, 01:42:20 PM
tHANKS YOU

I think I got it . 

just for be sure, if we start second independant progression on LD, and we have one partial hit on it, we reset bet to 1 for this LD and let same bet on SD, it it right?
Yes, because you are always in overall profit, when you increase your bet according to FIB on the SD, and it hits on it later!
So, when you are in overall profit again (after the last hit), please reset to Basic Bet -1-/-1-


we do this until we are in total profit? this will happen only when SD will come (this is DOZEN we have most chip)  but because we dont increase fibonnacci on SD when LD win, progression dont go up so fast, it is right again?
Example: When the ball hits on the LD and chip size on LD is at -2-, then you can go on betting with the Basic Bet for the next spin again (you reset to that).

;)

insidebet

HI,
I am not sure if this was discussed here before.

Let me just say that betting on allTHREE dozens at tha same time is a total nonsense.

Just take this example.

1 unit on first dozen
2 units on second dozen
3 units on third dozen.

if first dozen win, you losse 3 units.
if second dozen wins, you brake even
if third dozen wins, you gain 3 units

Right?

Now. If you take off one unit on each dozen.
0 unit on first
1 unit on second, and
2 units on third.

If first dozen wins, you loose 3 units (same as before)
If second dozen wins, you brake even (same as before)
if third dozen wins, you gains 3 units (same as before)

BUT!!!!!!!!!

If 0 comes, you loose 3 units in the second example INSTEAD of 6 units in the first example.   That is why betting on alll three dozens is simply ludicrous.

I cannot believe people cannot see this extremely basic fact...

Insider

GLC

Quote from: insidebet  link=topic=16223.msg111147#msg111147 date=1275862394
HI,
I am not sure if this was discussed here before.

Let me just say that betting on allTHREE dozens at tha same time is a total nonsense.

Just take this example.

1 unit on first dozen
2 units on second dozen
3 units on third dozen.

if first dozen win, you losse 3 units.
if second dozen wins, you brake even
if third dozen wins, you gain 3 units

Right?

Now. If you take off one unit on each dozen.
0 unit on first
1 unit on second, and
2 units on third.

If first dozen wins, you lose 3 units (same as before)
If second dozen wins, you brake even (same as before)
if third dozen wins, you gains 3 units (same as before)

BUT!!!!!!!!!

If 0 comes, you lose 3 units in the second example INSTEAD of 6 units in the first example.   That is why betting on alll three dozens is simply ludicrous.

I cannot believe people cannot see this extremely basic fact...

Insider

Of course you're right Insidebet.  It's called differential betting.  Anyone who has studied roulette for any length of time should be aware that you never play both E.C.'s, all 3 doz or col, etc... for lines, streets, corners, splits, etc...  That zero can eat up a lot of wasted chips.  To reduce all three doz or col until the smallest bet =0 is a very simple mental exercise.

I've been reading these posts from  the beginning and I'm still not sure anyone except the BlackPearl understands the system perfectly.  If someone does, could you please post the rules and a session that show's all the pertinent decisions that need to be made.  Use made up spins only for the purpose of teaching, not proving whether or not the system works.

BlackPearl, your English is good for basic conversation, but when explaining detailed strategies like this one, an unfamiliar use of a word here and there can cause a lot of confusion as you can tell from all the same questions being asked over and over again.

Thanks for sharing you system.  Your results are very, very impressive.  How often do you encounter a losing session?  How many winning sessions does it take to recover from a loss?

Don't give up on us,  George

keel44

Yes he plays all 3 dozens at once, but it is a fairly rare case that he does.  This is a hedge type system.  The main aspect for the success of this strategy is to win on the sleeper dozen.  The other two dozens keep you alive a little longer until the big win comes on the sleeper dozen.  He also mentions you play the zero when you have a lot on the table. 

That 3rd dozen and the last dozen could catch fire and the sleeper dozen progression could climb higher and higher, BUT you do NOT reset any of the progressions until your balance is at a new high point.  You continue to lose money but at a slower pace until that sleeper hits.

snoowly

Quote from: BlackPearl link=topic=16223.  msg110717#msg110717 date=1275656249

4.    When You WIN: Reset always both DZ/CL to Basic Bet -1-/-1-


You are sure this is correct Rolf ?

Example:

You lose many time consecutive (LD and SD doesn't hits) so you have one progression on SD (1 2 3 5 8.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  )
SD is at step 8 Chips so You start one progression on LD (bet -2-) on it

          and.  .  .  .   next spin.  .  .  .   LD hits.  .  .   

accordingly to your point 4, you will reset both because you win but in reality, if i understand well, you have to reset only LD to bet -1- but keep same bet -8- on SD , no?


I will try to post one example step by step today. 

Sincerely, Snooly :)



Bayes

Quoteaccordingly to your point 4, you will reset both because you win but in reality, if I understand well, you have to reset only LD to bet -1- but keep same bet -8- on SD , no?

As I understand it, a WIN means that the SD has hit. When this happens (and only then) you reset both. If the LD hits it's only a 'partial' win, and you continue to increase stakes on the SD, or in some cases you can leave things as they are in order to conserve the bank.

I'm sure Rolf will correct me if I'm wrong.

snoowly

Quote from: Bayes link=topic=16223.  msg111190#msg111190 date=1275894981
As I understand it, a WIN means that the SD has hit.   When this happens (and only then) you reset both.   If the LD hits it's only a 'partial' win, and you continue to increase stakes on the SD, or in some cases you can leave things as they are in order to conserve the bank. 

I'm sure Rolf will correct me if I'm wrong. 

Thanks you Bayes for your help too and i understand what u are saying.

POINT 1: yes, but if LD hits continuously, and if every spin, we increase SD, loses will become bigger spin after spin because we have to subtract chips on SD every spin.   so I understand we have to increase amount on SD just when both lose.   If LD hit, we not increase SD. 

this because if we don't increase SD when LD hits, loses are smaller spin after spin if LD hits continuously. 
but after some continuous hits on LD (4 or 5) if SD hits, we will not be in profit but in minus depends how long time LD hits continuously (i think is one bad session when this happens)


POINT 2: After, still I don't understand if we need to reset fibonacci on LD when LD hits.   fibonnaci on SD, deppend of my question to point 1 and your bayes. 

Maybe I am idiot but it is so difficult be sure have understood well :s


snoowly

Quote from: Bayes link=topic=16223. msg110765#msg110765 date=1275679741
After a first loss, and increasing the stake on the SD, if the ball hits the LD (on which you have 1 unit) there's no need to up the stake on the SD, because you break even, but if the SD (on which you have 2 units) is hit you still make a nice profit.   It all balances out in the end but it's a slightly more conservative way of playing.  

In this post Bayes, you are saying we dont need increase SD when LD hits. . .

i am really confused about way of play this method now but i think it is correct and we dont have to increase SD when LD hits, and same, dont reset LD to bet -1- if LD hits because, it means we have one progression on SD and if we reset LD if LD hits, we will lose very much chips on SD when LD hits.

this is what i understand

BlackPearl

Dear GLC, Insidebet and friends,

as it always was... and will always be:  The One, who can read  :rtfm:, is in big advantage !

Everything was explained here and in the other thread in every detail, but . . .

Here we go again:

1)  I DO NOT bet on all three DZ or CL at the same time !!  The only exeption is point 5 below...
2)  I bet on TWO DZ or CL and my My Basic Bet (Staring bet) is always -1-/-1-
3)  When the SD is going on to sleep, I am encreasing the bet on the SD according to FIB
    ( here: 1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34-55 ...)
4)  When the bet on the SD reaches -8-, then the bet on the second DZ will encreased also to 2, 3, 5, etc...
So you see, the bets (or the progressions) are made SEPARATE on each DZ now....  =  Key Factor!
5)  When the bet on the SD reaches -13-, THEN the THIRD DZ will be included in the current betting round
    and the bet on the THIRD DZ will also be 1-2-3-5-8-13 ...
6)  When the Ball hits the SD and we are in new overall profit, then the next bet will be a reset One, starting again
    on -1-/-1- as the new Basic Bet.


I am not healthy atm, but when I am better, I will ( maybe) post a step by step guide here...

Have a good day ALL!!

Sincerely,
ROLF
 :thumbsup:



BlackPearl

Dear GLC ( George),

I am sorry, but I didn`t had any looosing sessions till now... :nono:
Still waiting for the first to hit me !

Normally I would expect ( in average) ONE Looosing session after five winning sessions,
but as You see, it can work better also.

When there is a looosing session ( 20% loss of bankroll) and I have a winning goal of 10% (in average),
it will need three winning sessions to recover ...

And again, Sorry: Everything posted here is real !


Sincerely,

ROLF  :thumbsup:

insidebet

Blackpearl,

Yes I understood that you bet on all three dozens only under condition # 5.  But still... it is an absolute nonsense to do so.  To say otherwise doesnot do you a great deal of good.

Let me put another way.  Would anybody with a healthy brain bet on all 36 numbers???  Of course not!  You cannot posssibly win and only loose if 0 comes.

Well, betting on all three dozens at the same time is doing exactly that.

DonT tell me that you bet more on some of the dozens.  It still makes absolutely no sense.

Just trying to help by stating what should be very obious.

Insider

insidebet

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