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[MauiSunset]

I know there is such a thing as "Bad luck" - I've seen it several times while playing casino games.

There is also a thing called "Good luck" - I've seen it several times while playing casino games.

I'd say it happens to me 5% on the bad side and 5% on the good side, with 90% of the time normal luck.

Statistics guarantees that these two extremes exist - do you know what they feel like?

Just yesterday I was trying out some concepts on Rushmore, with real money, and the first spin was a Green 0, lost the next spin and then another Green 0 and then another Green 0.  The method I was trying out, for real, was bombing out as it has never done in 500 practice spins.

I realized that I was hip deep in "Bad luck" and just closed the session and came back in 30 minutes with everything acting like the 500 spins before - "normal luck".

Now if I didn't realize what "bad luck" was I'd have dug my heels in and lost 10 times as much money.  Normally the second Green 0 would have gotten my attention in 3 spins but I was so focused on doing the new technique correct that it took a 3rd Green 0 in 4 spins to slap me upside the head.

Know the difference.............

P.S.
This was the 3rd time I tried the new technique for real, the 2 tries before acted like "normal luck", the 2 tries since then acted like "normal luck".  I don't expect to see "bad luck" for a while, (knock on wood).....

[konor]

What do you mean by behaviour of dozen, waiting for one dozen to repeat x times for example or waiting for one dozen to be only x times during last y spins ?

For example:

One dozen not fall out of 5 or 4 times, then we stop to put on it and freeze the accounts.  Then we wait when the ten rolled 2 or 3 times in a row and are starting to put on it.

I want to understand how to use the Contra Dalembert how buju to use it .  Pablos or someone else, you can show how you get this add-on to the system? This is an important note which must not be forgotten.  I'll show you how I figured it out a bit later.

I have a couple of interesting ideas to this system, for them I'll tell you later.

[MauiSunset]

For example:

One dozen not fall out of 5 or 4 times, then we stop to put on it and freeze the accounts.  Then we wait when the ten rolled 2 or 3 times in a row and are starting to put on it.

I want to understand how to use the Contra Dalembert how buju to use it .  Pablos or someone else, you can show how you get this add-on to the system? This is an important note which must not be forgotten.  I'll show you how I figured it out a bit later.

I have a couple of interesting ideas to this system, for them I'll tell you later.

To all you folks who believe that the past history of a Roulette wheel magically affects future spins, try this simple experiment:

Whenever you get a "magical" signal, on an EC bet, just look at the last number spun and flip a coin - heads you go with the last number and tails you do the opposite.

You will find that a random decision is exactly the same as your "magical" signal - no difference, zip.

That means you have nothing.............

[pablos]

I also didn't use contra Dalembert and I don't know how buju did it. I only used basic rules and safety break but I thought about this system recently and I came to the conclusion that buju system actually doesn't differ very much from pure Lanky plan on double dozen so I thought about come back to Lanky plan and playing with paper and pencil then we can apply safety break whenever we want and in whatever form we want I mean we have more control over stakes because so far none calculator has some flexible safety break.

I only checked it once but you can do some simple test. Take some calculator put some numbers in it to make bad serie then look at dozens where bet are high for example you have bad serie and bets for dozen 1 and 2 went high so go to the tab DZ12 where calculations for pair of dozen 1 and 2 are made and look at the unit bet then you will see how the bets would be if you were playing with Lanky plan only on one pair of dozens. Then you will see that bets in main tab are similar as bets in that pair of dozens. Bet in buju system can be little lower but it is not big difference in my opinion.

[darrynf]

i dont think a stop loss will work with this system or any for that matter.

this system can have a dozen sleep for 30+ and if its the one you have your bets on, which happens more often then not.
remember if one dozen hits then two dozens are losing, sorry to say but this strategy dosent work and i have played it, it dosent matter what progression you used.

i would use virtual betting and keep trck of it that way and bet real money on the one that has the lowest bet, not sure if it helps i havent done this but this system losses to big when it losses.

i think most win come before the 6th progression, so after a win from the 6th progression i would stop the session as it all ways seem to get higher, you always win the first few games.

maybe the stop loss should be after so many games, one thing i notice is that after a win the next win gets gigher in the progression, so either stop after a win on the 6th progression or stop when you have no wins on the 6th progression.
just a thought

[pablos]

I made some tests recently on 10k sipns form live casinos. I testes version where you can change safety break. I tested 12 target 6 divisor calculator. I tested about 5 versions of safety breaks and one with no safety break. I tested playing without reset after profit just playing 10k spins, spin after spin. All versions with safety break I tested in the begining actually kept bets low but after some time sooner or later let say few thousand spins they ended with big loss or huge bets per dozens like few thousand chips per bet or even few times higher. It was because in versions with safety breaks after many spins there was a situation that one bad serie didn't end and another started so new safety break was applied and so on, stakes didn't manage to reset before next bad serie came so new targets were added many many times with every safety breaks and stakes went very high. It can seems weird but best results were with no safety break test which mean basic play of buju system. In this test I met also many bad series where stakes went high. There were two high ones with about 2400 chips per bet after about 1500 spins and the biggest about 3000 chips per bet after about 6000 spins but in this test with no safety break system buju earns about 2,7 chips per bet average so even when that bad series came bankroll was big enough to last that bad series without some big loss. Although during that bad series fall was about 3000 - 4000 chips in bankroll total loss of the system was only about 300 chips during the first serie and no loss during the second. What is the conlusion. With bankroll which is big enough we could last out bad serie like this 3000 chips per bet, even if the serie didn't come in the begining we would need for example smaller bankroll because playing without safety breaks earns chips quite fast, faster than any other version with safety break. My thought is that we could try to beat the roulette by force, no safety break, no reset just play to the end until we will win how much we want or we let say double up our bankroll. The only question is what is the biggest bet we can meet. To answer that I think we would need some RX coding. During 10k spins the highest I met was about 3021 per bet. Such a bad serie we could last out with bankroll big enough and table limits we could also beat by betting in the same time dozen, street, line and if needed even numbers. My only thought now is if we could meet higher bad serie. I am afraid that yes but if someone can code in RX maybe could help.

The one more conlusion. When we play without reset stakes can go really really high like I said few thousand chips per bet or even ten times higher but when we play with reset after every win such bad series very often change into not bad series at all. it is very big big difference in stakes when we play with or without reset after profit but reset is good but is not the solution because there are some bad series that doesn't change even if we reset.

Unfortunately I tested calculator on other set of spins and in one bad serie stakes went high to about 11k per bet which is in many casino too high to bet besides I dont know if it is the highest bet we can ever meet but I am not sure if this second set of spins was from live casino. It was from playtech 20k spins from this forum.  I think that maybe some stop loss would be a solution. Some time ago I tested 100 chips stop loss without reset in 12/6 calculator but outcomes weren't firm. I want to test some other calculator too. Maybe result will be better. I think that maybe some higher stop loss like 1000 chips would be good but more tests are needed.

I made some tests on 6 target 6 divisor no safety break calculator too. I testes 2x 10k spins. Bets in worst series seems to be lower than in 12/6 calculator. I tested calculator for playing dozen and columns in the same time. It can be weird but worst series on dozens were lower than worst series on columns. Bad series in dozens were for example like 1350 per one dozen with 2600 fall in bankroll, 1700 per one dozen with 5000 fall in bankroll and worst 3000 bet per dozen with 9000 fall in bankroll. Bad series on columns were worse for example 2200 bet per dozen with 4000 fall, 3650 per dozen (-7200 fall), 4600 per dozen (5000 fall) and worst 4900 bet per dozen with 4800 fall. Bankroll nedeed to last out such a bad serie should be even higher than falls of bankroll because I didn't take into consideration bets in last spins which were win, because thay didn't increased fall but we needed chips to bet them so sometimes we would need 10k to 15k bankroll to last out bad series. What is more I tested dome bad series and I saw that some bad series with reset play after every profit changes into not bad series at all I mean bets 4000 per dozen could change into bets 80 chips per dozen when playing with reset but what can be surprising some bad series doesn't change at all even if we reset. For example worst serie on columns changed when playing with reset.  I attached some bad series which doesn;t change even with reset and some which change or not (the second are the same as first plus more). You can try them just paste them into 6/6 no safety break calculator.

So test on 6/6 calculator seems to be better than on 12/6. If the bets remain on that level we could last out bad series. I dodn't know why bad series on columns are worst than on dozens. I thought it shouldn't be big difference. Maybe playing only on dozens with this calcualtor is good idea and maybe 20 k spins test is just too short to make any good conclusions.

If you want you can do some tests yourself. Here is 12/6 calculator and all you have to do is to change safety break. You can use your own numbers if you want just paste them in the coulmn.

nolinks://nolinks.sendspace.com/file/lscnyk

Here is 6/6 no safety break calculator with 10k numbers

nolinks://nolinks.sendspace.com/file/1ddhhm

These are ods files. I made them as ods because they are much smaller, xls files would be few times bigger. You have to open them in Open Office. If you have any problems with files here in the topic there is a link to the version where these files should work good or you can just inrease your xls files by copying all cells with functions to 10k cells down.

[schoenpoetser]

Pablos:A long time ago I tested also my systems in very large samples.The results are sometimes very interested.I like small samples 100 to250 spins.These samples give more information how to play the roulette.You can program a small sample so that it finish allways with a hit.See my  Martingale excelmodel with the SSB principle 

[pablos]

I was looking for some really bad series that is why I tested on 10k spins but I think that it is even not enough. The best would be some RX coding. I dont know your system but I think that short samples doesn't tell much unless we test many short series. I did it also but outcomes weren't firm. How can I find your martignale excel model. Can you give some link ?

[konor]

hi all!  I  tested  all  versions  of this system, many modifications,  mix it with other systems.  All options  are bad.  So this is a common system of losing a great distance.  Here  no  betting  system  is not suitable, stop loss will not help.  Buju just lucky  so far, but it's not forever.  still  less  will be a big plus.   

[konor]

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