Lohnro's Double Street System

[TwoCatSam]

"The next spins were 26 11 27 22- we hit the 22 for a 6 unit profit.

When a bet has been decided, I record the last 12 spins from our notes, then track the next 6 live spins to get the 18 spins, and start a new series. So if it took 3 spins to hit our D/S, our 6 live spins being tracked start from there."

Lohnro

Would the 22 be the first number of your next six or the number coming directly after the 22 in the trot?

Sam

Is this what you're asking?  If so, he said the 22 was the first number of the next six he charts.

[darrencasino]

Sorry..I'll re-read...I've worked out the beginning bit of betting on 1 or 2 DS but not sure on how to do the next step after the bet comes in..

[MattyMattz]

just started running my first test and I must have picked the session from hell cause I'm getting lots-o-losses... first 9 bets I've seen 4 losing progressions.  I'll have a go with some other numbers, to see if this was just a rough patch.  Keep in mind too that I could be doing this all wrong

Matt

[darrencasino]

So...i just leave the last 12 spins recorded then just do another 6...always keeping the last 12?

I think I have it wrong...as DS 1-6 hit 7 times meaning...i couldn't ever have that DS.

(got it!)

[MattyMattz]

K gang, just tested another 238 spins, results much better.  High and End totals were +97 units.  Low was 0 (no losses).  19 wins.  My numbers seem a little lower than CPS' but that could be because I never had to use a progression to gain back my losses... ?

MM

[Lanky]

@ Sam: Using a divisor plan, which I certainly will be, I'm guessing you could work it so that you're assuming to be betting 2 lines for each bet, but you simply bet half the amount calculated if you're betting only 1. Would that work...? I'll ask Lanky.

Cheers
CD

Hi CD.

Your 100% correct Mate.

I answered this today in a previous post of Yours Cobber.
But I will put the same link here again in case it was missed.

nolinks://vlsroulette.com/money-management/6-point-divisor-plan/msg19057/#msg19057

Good On Ya Mate.

Lanky

[Lohnro]

It is good to see that others are getting the same results as me. 

just started running my first test and I must have picked the session from hell cause I'm getting lots-o-losses... first 9 bets I've seen 4 losing progressions.  I'll have a go with some other numbers, to see if this was just a rough patch.  Keep in mind too that I could be doing this all wrong

Matt

When I had this problem Matt, I changed tables after the 1st loss. It seems that when a table is bad.......it is really bad. So, hopefully all your losses came from the same table, or set of numbers?

So...i just leave the last 12 spins recorded then just do another 6...always keeping the last 12?

That is how I do it darren.

Sam,

I am doing this with a spreadsheet, and very methodically (if that is such a word!).

If I get a progression loss, I double up until I recover. It recovers pretty quick, so that's a good thing. Another great thing is that the lowest drawdown I have had yet in these 1,200+ spins has been 150 units, which is sick. I would say that is pretty strong. Plus 400 units up and lowest DD has been 150. Not a bad ROI, even if it is slow and grinding. The good news is that if you happen to be playing a $10 unit (which many wheels at live casinos require), you would pretty much assure yourself of $3 or so per spin.

Keith

I would like to see a copy of your spreadsheet Keith?

[darrencasino]

I got earlier hehe...I know I'm hard work! Good results so far too

[Tucktuckster]

im playing a variation on this.

results from first test is +183 from 258 spins.

i have a spreadsheet. on a win, i do not wait 18 spins, i just take the last 18 numbers. if a loss happens - i stop altogether for 18 spins and then start again.

i didnt have progressions when i tested, so i used my own based on what is logical. 12 spins 1 set, 6 with 2. If 3 sets have 2 hits then no play possible, wait for it to be 2 or 1.

the maths on this is that you should lose around 1 in 10 progressions. so losses should not be plentiful and most should be recovered by the doubling up recovery session which should win quick enough before next loss.

i am waiting to see a session from hell, but i am thinking that things come in waves, so by playing non stop and then on a loss waiting 18 spins to break cycle and restart at a different point, you might be joining a different wave so hopefully will provide a safeguard.

in case last bit doesnt make sense - imagine the LnolinksLnolinksLnolinksL scenario. its a wave. however - a w may be a progreesion of 6 bets before the w happens. in those 6 bets, the double street you are betting on may drop to 1 hit in last 12 and a different ds will move to 2. so by being in virtual mode, you start betting on a different ds which could be on a different wave. If you are on a winning wave, you want to carry on and ride it. and if it loses, you want to catch another wave and see. Its just a bummer that you dont know the wave until you are on it. But the maths is that each wave will lose 1 in 10. and randomness says losses will sometimes be gouped. therefore it could pay to be on a different wave and hope for the best.

[hamsup_sotong]

oo question here.. if after 18 spins you get more than 2 ds's which qualify, do you play all of them, or carry on until there are 2 left?

Cheers

Hammy jr (the 2nd)

[Lohnro]

oo question here.. if after 18 spins you get more than 2 ds's which qualify, do you play all of them, or carry on until there are 2 left?

Cheers

Hammy jr (the 2nd)

Hey Hammy jr (the 2nd),

This is a no bet situation for me, I re-track as described.

[Tucktuckster]

i wait until the number with 2 goes to 1 or 2. If 3 = no play.

you probably could play them - but i dont really have a desire to play 18 numbers because it is not a nice number to play. it smells.

[cps10]

Keith

Let's talk about your progression.  You say you double up.  What is different that the progression Lohnro posted?

I want to run "spot checks" on my numbers, but I want to be sure I'm doing it the same as you.

Sam

Sam - with the single line progression, I would go from 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-6-8-10 to 2-2-4-4-6-6-8-8-10-12-16-20

For the double line progression, I would go from 1 1 - 2 2 - 3 3 - 4 4 - 6 6 - 9 9 to 2 2 - 4 4 - 6 6 - 8 8 - 12 12 - 18 18

[cps10]

Good work cps10, keep it up!

What are the thoughts about betting on the 2 double streets, might it be worth tracking until you find a run of 18 spins where only 1 double street hits twice?

I'm also wondering if backing the 1 (NOT 2) double street/s for 18 spins (3 cycles) rather than 12 could be a better way to play this.

The reason I think this is because Victor suggests, when talking about 6 number ATILA, "hold your bet for a maximum of 3 cycles...36/6 = Cycle for a line = 6 spins.
6 spins x 3 (cycles) = 18 spins.
After 18 spins of absence you never back a line to appear" Any thoughts?

I'll have to test this idea more...

CD

Not a bad idea CD. Take a look into it and then please explain to those just jumping on the thread if it works out.

[cps10]

If my D/S is 7-12 and I hit it after 4 spins...So..I've tracked the first 4 spins..do I then track 14 spins without betting?

Thanks..

This is what I do, and it could be a little different than how Lohnro originally laid it out for us.

Let's say that I am playing 1 line and it hits in 4 spins. What I do is back track the 12 spins BEFORE those 4, and the track 2 more AFTER THE HIT, which gives you 12+4+2=18 spins. Then you can analyze and begin playing again there.

So, what happens if it hits in 6 spins? I go back and take the previous 12 spins before those 6, then add the 6 in for 12+6=18 spins, and you are ready to play right away after that hit.

What about when the progression hits on the 10th spin? What I do is take those 10 spins, plus 2 spins before that and then observe 6 more spins before betting again. Since the progression went so deep down, I like to let the cobwebs shake out by letting those 6 spins correct the progression to where it is working again within the prescribed hit rate.

[cps10]

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