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16 number special system not lost (YET)

Started by MATTJONO, October 27, 2008, 11:42:07 PM

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See_Jerek

Quote from: luke0407 on October 30, 2008, 12:49:45 PM
See jerek is right according to my maths, progression should be 1,2,3,6 and 12


what do you think Luke?

Go any higher and you can kill youself if system fails on you?

luke0407

well, it is a difficult one to be honest. I think there is plenty of merit in this system, i've done a few trials (although nothing extensive) and have returned positive results. From the tests that others have done it is possible to go to a 1,2,3,6,12,20 for the six stage progression and as with any progression you will lose at some point, but the 'point' is if you have accumulated enough profit and it happens infrequently enough for you to build it back without losing you bank roll twice over shortly afterwards then it is a good system.

For those querying the maths, this is what i have come up with (apologies if the format is slightly off)(also please correct me if i am wrong!);

i'll start at step 5 using 1,2,3,6,12 and 24 progression;

if no. hits at this point(1) = +19 (i.e. 35gross win - 16staked)
if no. hits at this point(2) = +22 (i.e. 70gross win - 32staked - 16lost(above))
if no. hits at this point(3) = +9 (i.e. 105gross win - 48staked - 48lost(above))
if no. hits at this point(6) = +18 (i.e. 210gross win - 96staked - 96lost(above))
if no. hits at this point(12) = +36 (i.e. 420gross win - 192staked - 192lost(above))
if no. hits at this point(24) = +72 (i.e. 840gross win - 384staked - 384lost(above))

With the example been given before step 4 (like see_jerek said) results in a cumulative -0.50 lost - so this is the prog i would use, obviously playing for real i would start off with 10p, 20p, 30p, 60p, 1.20 and 2.40.

Luke

luke0407

could change '24' to '20' in the progression as well i think!!   :-\

See_Jerek

Quote from: ryan08 on October 31, 2008, 02:27:42 AM
each I represents a win [total profit from 1001 spins so far = +965

1/iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
2/iiiiiiiiiiii
3/iiiiiiii
4/iiiiiiii
5/iiii
6/ii
L/i
all below are losses[-656]
7/i

even with the loss I have still made +965, this was using 1/2/3/5/10/20 progression
mattjono also said he ddnt find a loss in his 3000 spin test so im going to carry on testing and try and find where the next loss will appear, looking sweet so far though

stop loss at 4th step seems reasonable,and not forgetting you play after 4 misses,mattjono does it only after 5 misses

See_Jerek

Quote from: ryan08 on October 31, 2008, 09:27:03 AM
4 stop loss would work, but it means far less profit, 389
ill show you the working out-

1 loss = 176 (1st step16+2nd32+3rd48+4th80=176)

if going to the 4th you then have 7 losses, (5th4+6th2+7th1=7)

the loss would be 176x7=1232
take the profit 1621-1232=389

this will be safer but 6th step is better to use if you dont mind a bit of risk


end of the day why dont wait for 6 misses?

Boo_Ray

btw ryan08 the aswer for your signiture is: antigravity

See_Jerek

Quote from: Boo_Ray on October 31, 2008, 12:08:54 PM
btw ryan08 the aswer for your signiture is: antigravity


looks like one of Sam's cats ;D

Boo_Ray

It looks unstable  :D well enough off topic

luke0407

What are the best live casinos to use? i.e. ones that will actually pay? it's time for me to test this puppy out!!

i need one with 0.10 table minimum though - just in case!!  ;)

kompressor

at my local casino the table limit is 10x the minimum bet.....so the progression should be 1,2,3,5,10 ???

thanks

luke0407

Hi,

whenever i try to use Joyland Casino it just says live games not available - tried it at 21.30 and 22.30 and 09.45 UK time?

any others?

Luke

theneophyte

Quote from: luke0407 on November 01, 2008, 07:43:57 AM
Hi,

whenever I try to use Joyland Casino it just says live games not available - tried it at 21.30 and 22.30 and 09.45 UK time?

any others?

Luke

this happens when they are changing dealers. takes a few minutes so just keep trying and the tables will eventually appear.

See_Jerek

Quote from: ryan08 on November 01, 2008, 10:02:54 PM
ok, the best way iv found to play this system is to wait for 6 misses then start a 6 step progression(1/2/3/5/10/20)

this will take patience but so far I have made +928 without a loss, iv hit the 6th step twice, if I take a loss now (-656) I will still be +272

i havent done extensive testing but I have done over 5000, I will continue but this should be safe enough for now

I feel that if 8 step can happen in 5000 spins,it will happen in 50 spins.while we are already playing with real money,mattjono is still playing with kid's money.I am still expecting some answers and solutions from him.

In his test he hasn't lose yet so let's see what he has to say,or did he dig a whole hole and hide in the ground when he knows his system has failed again.

17black

Hi to all, I reall like the approach here but i think it has more to do with some statistical probability involing numbers than sections on the wheel. i am having great success just applying the bet to numeric numbers either side of the qualifying number. has anyone else tried this aspect?

See_Jerek

Quote from: 17black on November 02, 2008, 05:42:44 AM
Hi to all, I reall like the approach here but I think it has more to do with some statistical probability involing numbers than sections on the wheel. I am having great success just applying the bet to numeric numbers either side of the qualifying number. has anyone else tried this aspect?


can you give some examples on how you are playing?

See_Jerek

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