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Even chances system (variation Steve Morgan)

Started by JLP, March 31, 2008, 11:40:30 AM

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JLP

Hi All,

Here is a test of the Dozen system (playing only 1 Dozen) at FONBET.

INITIAL BANKROLL = 5000
PROGRESSION USED = 1 1 2 3 4 6 9 14 21 31 47 70 = 209 UNITS
TABLE LIMIT = 1-500
EUROPEAN ROULETTE TABLE


Nº SPUN   DOZEN   BANKROLL

31                3
25                3
25                3
23                2          
27                3
29                3
27                3
15                2
7                  1
17                2
4                  1  ------> TRACKING
3                  1
12                1
11                1
12                1
2                  1
34                3
25                3
7                  1        5000

So from this we play Dozen 1 and dozen 3 (6 + 6 spins)
                             5000
14                2
0                  0
14                2
5                  1         5002    After a win start again
7                  1         5004
15                2
30                3
18                2
22                2
5                  1         5005
13                2
29                3
19                2
5                  1         5007
5                  1         5009
21                2    
31                3
12                1          5011
19                2
6                  1          5012
26                3
20                2
0                  0
10                1          5014
28                3
22                2
12                1          5016
23                2
1                  1          5017
31                3  
22                2
22                2
2                  1          5019
12                1          5021
5                  1          5023
3                  1          5025
4                  1          5027
36                3
17                2
6                  1          5029
8                  1          5031
4                  1          5033
29                3
28                3
25                3
5                  1          5035
4                  1          5037
33                3
33                3
0                  0
30                3
7                  1          5038
29                3
5                  1          5039
36                3
31                3
29                3
3                  1          5041
20                2
11                1          5042
5                  1          5044
28                3  
0                  0
32                3
17                2
6                  1          5045
18                2
1                  1          5046
13                2
29                3
10                1          5048
7                  1          5050
23                2
13                2
26                3
36                3
14                2
25                3
33                3          5051  -----> Here we are on 7th spin (play dozen 3)

RESUME OF SESSION :
-TOTAL SPINS = 98
-79 SPINS PLAYED
-FINAL BANKROLL = 5051
-PROFIT = 51 UNITS.
ESTRUCTURE OF DOZENS :
D1 = 32
D2 = 25
D3 = 37
ZERO = 4


At Fonbet the ball goes frequently from dozen 1 to dozen 3, stay less on dozen 2.

Cheers,
JLP.-

lucky_strike


Quote
1:   1   +2
2:   1   +1
3:   1     0
4:   2   +1
5:   3   +1
6:   4     0
7:   6     0
8:   8    -2
9:   12  -2
10: 17  -4
11: 25  -5
12: 35  -10 ------> But here in this 5 last spins you are in MINUS with the progression?????

JLP i have run millions of tests and i have great knowledge regarding how the distribution of events behave. That's why i can say that there is no need to win at every step using a progression.

Why risk 209 units to win 51 when you can risk 115 and win 30.


14                2               1  
0                  0               1
14                2               1
5                  1               1  -1      
7                  1               1 +1        
15                2               1
30                3               1
18                2               1
22                2               2
5                  1               3 +2        
13                2               1
29                3               1
19                2               1
5                  1               2 +3        
5                  1               1 +5      
21                2               1    
31                3               1
12                1               1 +5        
19                2               1
6                  1               1 +6          
26                3               1
20                2               1
0                  0               1
10                1               1 +5        
28                3               1
22                2               1
12                1               1 +5        
23                2               1
1                  1               1 +6
31                3               1  
22                2               1
22                2               1
2                  1               2 +7          
12                1               1 +9          
5                  1               1 +11          
3                  1               1 +13          
4                  1               1 +15          
36                3               1
17                2               1
6                  1               1 +15        
8                  1               1 +17          
4                  1               1 +19          
29                3               1
28                3               1
25                3               1
5                  1               2 +20
4                  1               1 +22
33                3               1
33                3               1
0                  0               1
30                3               1
7                  1               2 +22        
29                3               1
5                  1               1 +23
36                3               1
31                3               1
29                3               1
3                  1               2 +24
20                2               1
11                1               1 +25
5                  1               1 +27
28                3               1  
0                  0               1
32                3               1
17                2               1
6                  1               2 +27
18                2               1
1                  1               1 +28          
13                2               1
29                3               1
10                1               1 +28        
7                  1               1 +30      
23                2               1
13                2               1
26                3               1
36                3               2
14                2               3
25                3               4
33                3               6 +30

Cheers Lucky Strike

JLP

Hi mate,

[size=18]Why risk 209 units to win 51 when you can risk 115 and win 30.[/size]

I  totally agree.
But how you play it?
I know you use the example test, but how is going when you are from 6 to 12 spins in minus?

Thanks,mate

JLP.-

lucky_strike


Hi and thanks for keeping this topic alive.

Well i think i did it the same way you did it.
I play dozen 1 for 6 times and if it lose i switch to dozen 3 and play for 6 times. If i got an zero i just repeat my previous bet and continue to play using the progression. I assume that this was what you did but you used another progression.

Cheers Lucky Strike

kawa4711

Hi, lucky strike,

which progression did you use??

best regards

kawa4711

lucky_strike

Hi...

1: 1 +2
2: 1 +1
3: 1 0
4: 2 +1
5: 3 +1
6: 4 0
7: 6 0
8: 8 -2
9: 12 -2
10: 17 -4
11: 25 -5
12: 35 -10

Cheers LS

lucky_strike


Hi JLP i wanted to see how it would perform if we play random against random.
If i had dozen 1 i play it for 6 times, if it lose and i have dozen 3 i play it for 6 times, if it lose and i have dozen 1 i play it for 6 times, if it lose and i have dozen 2 i play it for 6 times.

Risk 115 units Profit 115 units. Cheers Lucky Strike




lucky_strike


JLP we can play dozen and column at the same time and have a win target of 10. The issue here is to study the sismograhpic drawings and get a entering point that works.

JLP

Quote
JLP we can play dozen and column at the same time and have a win target of 10. The issue here is to study the sismograhpic drawings and get a entering point that works.

Hi mate,

Good for the previous testing - you test it with your progression I suppose?
Playing 1 dozen and 1 Column at the same time how would it be?
Using 2 different patterns for each one (as with the example of only 1 dozen bet) and 2 different bankrolls?
Is a little bit more complicated to control - No???

Cheers,
JLP.-

JLP

Hi All,

Will try to put some order in the exposition and illustration of the different systems the author refers in the book.
We have seen the following at the moment:

[size=12]a) System for R/B (using 30 different patterns of 8 figures).
b) System GRAMA 8 CAROUSELL or CONTINUOUS (using 8 figures) : for only 1 chance or 3 chances at the same time.
c) System for only 1 Dozen or Column.
[/size]

JLP.-

JLP

Hi All,

Next we will see another one : GRAMA 8 ( of 8 FIGURES) WITH 10 PATTERNS and using 3 even chances at the same time.

================================================
The author states :

The oportunism and time of dedication have a fundamental importance for the good end of our purposes.
In this way understanding it and acepted this possible convenience of reducing the dedicated time, we next go to learn how we can get it.
With the same capital we have the possibility of dedicate our programations to 2 or 3 even chances, this determination is up to each Systemist, although the author recommends use more than 1 even chance to the object of reducing the time require to get the specific target (profit).
For to get the 50 units target (this is what the author manage for win target), if we use the 3 even chances the numbers of game play would be 17.
Each game play would profit 3 units.
And we must prepare a maximum of 10 drawings or patterns for each even chance.
We begin the betting with 1 unit on Black, Odd and High and we continue the betting as we stated in the other systems refered before with the same progressions used except the 3rd. one declare unuseful here for this system because of its complexity.


[size=18]SYSTEM GRAMA 8 (8 FIGURES - 10 PATTERNS) FOR 3 EVEN CHANCES[/size]

B  R  B  B  B  R  R  R  B  B
R  B  B  R  R  R  R  R  B  R
R  B  R  B  B  R  R  B  B  R
B  B  B  B  B  R  B  B  B  R
B  B  R  B  B  R  R  R  R  B
R  R  R  B  B  R  R  R  B  B
B  R  B  B  R  R  R  R  B  R
R  R  R  B  R  R  B  R  R  B
-------------------------------------
O  O  O  E  E  E  E  O  O  E
O  O  O  O E  O  O  E  O  O
O  O  E  E  E  O  E  O  O  O
O  E  E  E  E  O  O  O  E  E
O  O  O  E O  E  O  E  E  E
O  O  O  E  E  E  E  E  O  O
O  O  O  O  O O  E  E  E  O
O  E  O  O  O  E  E  E  E  E
-------------------------------------
H   L  H  H  H   L  L   L  L  L
L   H  H  L   H   L  L   L  L  L
L   H  L  H   H   L  L   H  H  L
H  H  H  H   H   L  H  H  H  L
H  H  L   H   L   L   L  L   L  L
L   L  L   H   H   L  L  L   L  L
H  L  H   H   L   L  L  L   L  L
L   L   L   L   H  H  H  L  L  H
-------------------------------------

ESTIMATIVE CLASIFICATION :
PROGRAM GRAMA 8 (8 FIGURES - 10 PATTERNS) W/PROGRESSION = 10 POINTS


==================================
JLP.-
   


JLP

Hi,

SYSTEM TESTING OF EVEN CHANCES 30 DIFFERENT  PATTERNS ON EVEN – ODD.
SYSTEM TESTING ON 1 DOZEN ON 1 PATTERN OF 12 FIGURES


Here is the word sheet :
nolinks://momupload.com/files/92224/vittoriosa1.1.doc.html

NOTES :
E – EVEN
O – ODD
I.BANK = INITIAL BANKROLL
F.BANK= FINAL BANKROLL

LIVE REAL SPINS FROM CASINO VITTORIOSA.

WHEN WE WIN ON EACH PATTERN  WE MOVE TO BET WITH THE NEXT PATTERN IN THE LIST.
AT COMPLETION OF THE 30 PATTERNS  (1st. CYCLE) WE BEGIN AGAIN FROM PATTERN No.1.

PROGRESSION TYPE = SIMPLE MARTINGALE
1  2  4   8  16  32  64  128 = 255 UNITS
BANKROLL = 255x2= 510 UNITS FOR BACKUP PURPOSES
FIRST UNIT BET= 1
TOTAL SPINS IN THIS SET = 328 SPINS
TEST FROM SPIN 436 AT 213 = 223 SPINS

COMPLETED 3.5 CYCLES
1ST. CYCLE = 1 INSTANCE GET TO 6TH LEVEL PROGRESSION
2ND. CYCLE = 2 INSTANCES GET TO 8TH LEVEL PROGRESSION (VERY DANGEROUS).
3RD. CYCLE = 1 INSTANCE GET 8TH LEVEL PROGRESSION WORST (ZERO).
IT WOULD HAVE FAILED IF ZERO IS NOT COVERED ON 8TH LEVEL PROG. (INSURANCE).
THE AUTHOR RECOMMENDS TO PUT 4 CHIPS ON 7TH LEVEL PROG. ON ZERO AND 8 CHIPS ON 8TH LEVEL PROG. ON ZERO.
ALSO THE AUTHOR RECOMMENDS TO USE THE SYSTEM TO REACH ONLY 35% PROFIT OF BASE BANKROLL (255 UNITS).THAT IS 90 UNITS AND STOP.
PROFIT= 630 - 510 = 120 UNITS

DOZEN SYSTEM TEST :
PATTERN D1 D1 D1 D1 D1 D1 D3 D3 D3 D3 D3 D3
PROGRESSION :
1  1  2  3  4  6  9  14  21  31  47  70 = 209 UNITS
TEST FROM SPIN 541 AT 437 = 104 SPINS
PROFIT = 691 – 632 =59 UNITS
This single dozen test perform well.
Any idea or comment is welcome.

Cheers,
JLP.-

lucky_strike

HI JLP nice work and thanks for sharing.

I download your file and read it.
You have to admit that is was a close one.
I could see that the 7 step hit.


Cheers LS

JLP

QuoteHI JLP nice work and thanks for sharing.

I download your file and read it.
You have to admit that is was a close one.
I could see that the 7 step hit.


Cheers LS

Hi mate,
Yes in 2 or 3 instances got easily to the 7th and 8th level progression (very dangerous).
I was thinking to put 2 step more levels but that requires more bankroll and so add 2 more figures to the 8 base ones ------> 10 figures.
I plan to make more tests on it with live spins from Casino Vittoriosa and post the result.
This would give us a better idea of this system and also the single dozen system.
Another idea to test is the 8 Grama continuous.
The author states to play only to reach the 35% initial bankroll or less than it and quit for the day, so the exposure to this 7th or 8th levels are minimazed, but who knows when it will come ......
We will see.

Cheers,
JLP.-


JLP

Hi,

Here is another test of the 30 patterns for even chances (tested on even/odd), but have made some changes from the last test.

[size=20]CHANGES[/size]

ADD  3 MORE FIGURES = 8+3 = 11 FIGURES
IF WE REACH AT THE END OF THE 8 FIGURES WE ADD THE 3 FIGURES FROM THE BEGINNING OF IT IN THE SAME PATTERN WE HAVE NOT CLOSED YET.


[size=20]THE  PROGRESSION IS NOW FIBONACCI :
1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55 89 = 232 UNITS    
[/size]

WHEN WE LOSE WE MOVE UP TO THE NEXT STEP, WHEN WE WIN WE STAY ON THAT LEVEL OR GO BACK 1 UNIT OR RESET TO THE BEGINNING ACCORDING IF WE ARE +1 UNIT IN RELATION TO THE PROFIT OF THE LAST PATTERN WE HAVE CLOSED.
BANKROLL = 232 X 4 = 464

1 CYCLE OF 30 PATTERNS CLOSED.
SPINS TESTED : FROM SPIN 496  TO SPIN  213 = 283 SPINS      
PROFIT= 536 – 464 = 72 UNITS
72 U / 283 SPINS = 0.25 UNIT/SPIN


From this test is a slow system but very secure to make profit (like the amps), it has many ups, downs, evens but the bankroll is not exposed much as the bets are not raised enormously like in the previous test using simple martingale.

Here is the test file :

nolinks://momupload.com/files/92546/vittoriosa2.2.doc.html

Cheers,
JLP.-


JLP

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