So we test the system as follows:
1. I will only use live spins from Riverbelle.com A screen-capture movie will be made of each 100 spin test.
2. I will follow this set of rules:
Root Groups:
1=1-10-19-28
2=2-11-20-29
3=3-12-21-30....this is the 1-2-3 Group
4=4-13-22-31
6=6-15-24-33
9=9-18-27-36...this is the 4-6-9- Group
5=5-14-23-32
7=7-16-25-34
8=8-17-26-35..this is the 5-7-8- Group
When a root group hits twice within three spins, I will bet that root group, minus the root where the number fell, for four spins. Should a number from that root appear, I will begin beting all three roots. If I am betting all three roots, I will only bet three times. I will bet multiple root groups and will include a winning root in the next betting scheme.
3. This will be an explanation of my work sheets:
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Sam
First test of 100 numbers downloaded yesterday.
A profit of 368 units. (Naturally my "units" would have been $100.00 chips. (Hak Hak Kaff Kaff)
Notice how, on this day, this system lagged behind until about the 30th or so spin.
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So......If every day was half or even a fourth this good..............
Ka-Ching!!
Samster
Quote3. This will be an explanation of my work sheets:
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Thank you Victor VLS!!
I couldn't do that!!
Samster
QuoteNotice how, on this day, this system lagged behind until about the 30th or so spin.
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A pleasure to serve you Samster :thumbsup:
OK......
The following spreadsheet is from Monday, the 21st of April, 08
There was a 416 unit of profit on the second 100-spin trot I have tested.
It could be I have just downloaded 200 numbers that perfectly fit into Clothdog's system. Or it could be the Dog is onto something. Further investigation is definitely warranted.
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I'm off to eat chicken!!
Samster
I have nearly finished the RX code for this system. So far it's looking good.
Will keep you posted! ;)
Dizzy. 8-)
QuoteIt could be I have just downloaded 200 numbers that perfectly fit into Clothdog's system. Or it could be the Dog is onto something. Further investigation is definitely warranted.
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Oh yes, I'm oficially Samster's image resizer :)
I see some mistakes on those charts. example, On spin 53 & 54 you have 8 repeating. You win next spin with 32. Remember I said if you get a repeater or a root repeater play the whole group for 3 spins. On spin 60 & 62 you have 9 repeating and you win on spin 63 with 18. ON spin 78 & 79 you have double roots of 5 and would win on next spin 80. you play till you lose then look for new signal. But maybe you've found a better way to play this. I will post a chart that I've been doing extemely well with. You can play the whole group but it is narrowed down by the last end digit that hit and the numbers that follow. You may have as little as 4 numbers to play.
cd
Victor.....a fine re-sizer you are, Sir!!
Clothdog
OK, I read and re-read your system post. I see my error. Please go to "Questions for Clothdog" under "Completed Systems" as I have more questions.
All:
This was a tough session and some things appeared that had not before. One such thing was what to do if there were three active Roots at the same time. Now, seeing as I may be doing it wrong, I will have to re-think my methods.
That being said, mistakes being made and the dog chewing my foot, I still made a profit of 146 units. Paper only, of course. I will throw real American $$$ at this if it holds as well as it has been.
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Sam
Knock Knock!
Anyone home?
So I ran another 100 spins through the mill and came up with a 39 unit profit. Not good, but not a loss.
This system has quite defined winning trends. I suppose it could be argued that a person should quit after a good winning run as a losing run is in the offing.
Take a look if you dare.....
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Sam
QuoteThat being said, mistakes being made and the dog chewing my foot, I still made a profit of 146 units. Paper only, of course. I will throw real American $$$ at this if it holds as well as it has been.
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Hello
Just got back from Dublin where I placed #5 bets and won upwards of #500. Very different when you are betting on the fly.
There is something to this root system.
If you want to win some money, I'd think seriously about learning it.
Sam
Podunk,we have a problem:
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Re-scan?
Victor
I clicked on the Badongo link and the sheet appears correctly. I am going to try going back to ImageShack as they appear magically by themselves. I have had a terrible time logging onto their website.
Today I go to the Podunk Arts Festival. Good food!!
Samster
Hi all,
I made a excel spread sheet for this system for more easy testing. You still need to write L and W manualy, but the spins are downloaded automaticly and also the root group. Maybe Victor can add this to download section, but it is necessarily to ask Arteinvivo, because Im using his macro for downloading spins from Wiesbaden bank.
Here is how my sheet looks:
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Cheers
GOOD JOB ALFA!! :thumbsup:
Cheers mate
/Compa
Great job thank you so much...
I have a one question...
Would this work on Double zero wheel?
thank you so much
Joker
Yes it Does Joker! It works on any wheel,,lol!
cheers
/Compa
Great thanks Alfa, I hope Victor's uploads this sheet for us
i made some loot playing this baby. 8-)
big up's to the big dog.
hey guys.
can somebody send me that spreadsheet to email?
gi0ni@yahoo.com
thank you!
I have not given up on CD's Root System by any means. Just busy with other things........
I am strongly thinking of bankrolling $1000.00 into Riverbelle and trying this puppy for real.
Just a little more confidence and another Social Security check!
TwoCat
Wishing you well with that 2Cats.... :thumbsup:
Please keep us updated ;)
Many [smiley=dankk2.gif]
take it easy....[smiley=beer.gif]
Hey Guys......
The Dog said something like this: When two roots come together, one of those four numbers is very likely to come.
I went back and did some checks just visually of the times when 5, 5 or 4, 4 or whatever, hit. I then counted until the next 4 or 5 or whatever, hit. I feel there would be a good flat-bet profit just working those four numbers, so that's what I'll probably do until I master the betting scheme.
I am thinking this system might lend itself to the PlusCoup method of going up when needed after a win.
I will make a screen-capture movie of my test and try to find a way to post it.
I haven't bet with real $$$ in a while now, (freakin' ban!!) so I got a little booty under the mattress!
Thanks, Xman, for the good wishes.
Alpha, what is that poor creature doing in your avatar? Looks like he's working in an assembly line boxing condoms.
Sam
Samster,
Yes, I've done well playing that way. Alot of my picking numbers with this is observation and intuition. Since I've been following it for almost a year I also have some other advanced methods I use with this but that would involve too many questions and Pm's. Compa will tell you he was sending me numbers and without fail I was hitting with 4 numbers in 6spins or less. example from actual spins 8-1-25-(at this point from just these 3 numbers I knew 8 would hit again) there followed 11-8(WIN). Now I can't do that with just 3 spins all the time, but I posted this before ,last week(FRIDAY) my friend and the table were witness to me playing only 1 number and I hit this 3 times in 5 spins and they weren't repeaters and walked away with over $1500 and said goodbye. It's a number of things I've figured out on my own and the order which I feel the numbers are determined to fall regardless of the dealer or wheel. whether it's valid or not I'm winning cobber.
cd
CD
I firmly believe, almost know, that certain numbers excite or encourage other numbers to follow. There is no rhyme nor reason to it, but I think your Root system taps into it. No pun intended.
I have looked into numerology and Phythagoris (sp), the so-called "Father of Numerology" to try to find the answers. I have read about coincidence and Carl Jung. "Find the order within the chaos."
Something inside me says I should put up or shut up. Win or lose, I will prove (?) my results.
Sam
Hello.
Alfastreet, there is mistake in the chart top right corner, #19 belong to route 1.
Hey vakhlak
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Thanks for the observation. Alfa... take note :)
Hello,
I am trying to learn this system... The first chart that I attempted to follow along with was posted or reposted by Victor (the session with the 146 unit gain) Maybe I just don't get it, but......
On spin 13 the number was 31 469 (4)
On spin 14 the number was 8 578 (8)
On spin 15 the number was 36 469 (9) ........ Betting Opportunity!
The way I understand, we bet on 4&6 because 9 just hit
On spin 18 the number was 36 (group 9) and it was credited as a 28 unit win. I don't think this is correct because we were not betting on root 9 (9-18-27-36)
Am I confused or is there an error in this session? (RiverbelleLive 4/22/08)
Thanks,
Phil
pg
I am the person who did the test, and yes, you are right, there is an error there. We should subtract 28 units from the 146 unit profit.
There are days when I wish I lived in a vacuum, in a sound-proof room with no telephone, but I live in the real world.
I once lost 175 real dollars when some religious person came to the door.
Thanks for pointing out my error.
TwoCatSam
There is many shadows in directions how this system must be used, however it is very interesting. I was busting my brain for almost 6 months with something that is somehow simular(in some way).
Here is what I dont understand at this point.What game is more important, 2roots for 4 spins, group of three roots for 3 spins or
1root for X? spins? When you must drop not finished cycle and jump to new apportunity?
CD sad he will post some more info, when he will be redy.
vak
Some of what I did in that system, I did on my own. I took the very basics and tried not to change them, but probably twisted the betting a bit. If I am betting 8 numbers, I stay with the bet for 4 spins. No winner; give it up. If, during those four spins, the Root I'm not betting on comes, I just finish out the four spins using 12 numbers.
Actually I am thinking of a whole new betting scheme. Still using Clothdog's Roots, but playing it a slightly different way. I'm still mulling it over and should start real play soon.
I may switch from Riverbelle to Suite332 as I can bet dollars to start. Ten-spots just flat make me nervous at this point.
Sam
What a crock!!
I'm having a bit of problem getting my money sent. Bear with me.
Sam
Is it because your from the USA 2Cats?? :-/
xman
Yes, it is. But I'm working on it.
Sam
When there's a will there's a way.... ;)
Has anyone got any results from live play or test results for this method my limited testing so far has been up and down has neither failed or won :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
TwoCatSam try to stay on 1 unit bet until you hit, then add 1 unit, reset progression back to 1 unit every time when you have rich new high. TEST IT FIRST before play fore money!!!
This progression have been postet on VIP by Mr. Big Chips fore dozens.Maybe somebody can explain it beter. My english is very limited.SORRY.
It is rain drops theory, i was working on same thing but with weel layouts sector of 9,12 and 6.But i did not group the lines(roots).
Results pretty much thesame.Have problem with positioning 0 and 0;00 in american roulette,maybe AlfaStreet or anybody here can help me. Thanks.
So does this method win or not like i said i have lots of highs then it drops away is like 50/50
Hi Natural9,
Does this win or not ??? That's a very open question.....
The question is how much testing have you done??
How many sessions....
How many spins.....
Profit & Loss for each session.....
I don't think you are going to get any answers until you have tested for a least 2000 spins, as a rule most people will tell you here that 10,000 test spins is the benchmark...
Wising you the best of luck.... ;)
vak
I don't plan to use a progression on the clothdog root system.
I will flat bet.
Thanks
Sam
last night my friend played my system at the casino. was up $1500 and walked. It wins but you have to watch the board and not get greedy. I use no progression.
cd
Quotelast night my friend played my system at the casino. was up $1500 and walked. It wins but you have to watch the board and not get greedy. I use no progression.
cd
I've been getting inconsistent results from my live spins. I completed two sessions.
Session1 failed when only playing one qualified group at a time for 4 spins, but when playing multiple qualified groups it was successful, which is the way CD plays.
Session2 was the reverse, it failed when playing multiple qualified groups, however was successful when only playing one qualifed group at a time, which is the way CD's friend plays.
From my understanding the system is suppose to be flexible either way.
I will post session 1 and session2 in the next two post. However, i will only post the spin number and spin result, because this way multiple columns in an excel spreadsheet and the columns dont lined up well on here. so, if anyone wants my tracking file, PM me and ill sent it to you. I sent a copy to TwoCatSam already.
Session1 Table 7 4/3/08
Spin# number
1 9
2 20
3 17
4 5
5 24
6 4
7 2
8 4
9 28
10 23
11 14
12 28
13 29
14 36
15 4
16 1
17 29
18 10
19 7
20 30
21 22
22 28
23 30
24 27
25 12
26 36
27 7
28 4
29 24
30 4
31 35
32 15
33 34
34 31
35 17
36 15
37 26
38 1
39 14
40 16
41 3
42 35
43 12
44 5
45 22
46 27
47 6
48 10
49 23
50 31
51 25
52 9
53 31
54 30
55 28
56 12
57 25
58 0
59 2
60 16
61 29
62 11
63 7
64 29
65 4
66 6
67 10
68 19
69 9
70 28
71 9
72 22
73 36
74 7
75 18
76 34
77 36
78 7
79 9
80 15
81 0
82 13
83 1
84 3
85 33
86 11
87 14
88 23
89 32
90 26
91 30
92 16
93 35
94 34
95 3
96 24
97 4
98 6
99 34
100 34
101 13
102 30
103 24
104 28
105 9
106 1
107 18
108 16
109 28
110 8
111 30
112 12
Session2 Table 10 4/2/08
Spin# number
1 21
2 5
3 7
4 31
5 16
6 0
7 13
8 29
9 14
10 7
11 27
12 28
13 36
14 24
15 17
16 26
17 3
18 0
19 10
20 11
21 31
22 11
23 21
24 9
25 31
26 32
27 30
28 24
29 34
30 35
31 6
32 25
33 32
34 33
35 17
36 0
37 3
38 22
39 35
40 26
41 30
42 20
43 3
44 13
45 14
46 11
47 36
48 35
49 17
50 33
51 16
52 30
53 22
54 27
55 15
56 26
57 34
58 22
59 19
60 0
61 7
62 12
63 27
64 22
65 19
66 2
67 35
68 4
69 27
70 2
71 9
72 13
73 20
74 32
75 11
76 17
77 34
78 5
79 22
80 4
81 22
82 26
83 21
84 23
85 4
86 29
87 16
88 10
89 12
90 7
91 27
92 29
93 31
94 18
95 33
96 25
97 13
This method isnt designed for a progression tho possibly a pluscoup type of progression might do ok with it
Quotelast night my friend played my system at the casino. was up $1500 and walked. It wins but you have to watch the board and not get greedy. I use no progression.
cd
CD, what do you mean by watch the board?
Please give your evaluation of my test sessions in reply 45 and 46. One session works if I play the way friend plays and the other the way you play. I would think your system would work both ways for both sessions, otherwise I dont which way is best.
Has anyone had any luck using this system on the two posted sessions in reply 45 and 46? :-/
QuoteSession1 Table 7 4/3/08
Spin# number
1 9
2 20
3 17
4 5...17-5
5 24--win
6 4
7 2
8 4..repeater
9 28-win
10 23
11 14
12 28-repeater
13 29
14 36
15 4..win
16 1
17 29
18 10
19 7
20 30
21 22
22 28
23 30
24 27
25 12
26 36
27 7
28 4
29 24
30 4
31 35
32 15
33 34
34 31
35 17
36 15
37 26
38 1
39 14
40 16
41 3
42 35
43 12
44 5
45 22
46 27
47 6
48 10
49 23
50 31
51 25
52 9
53 31
54 30
55 28
56 12
57 25
58 0
59 2
60 16
61 29
62 11
63 7
64 29
65 4
66 6
67 10
68 19
69 9
70 28
71 9
72 22
73 36
74 7
75 18
76 34
77 36
78 7
79 9
80 15
81 0
82 13
83 1
84 3
85 33
86 11
87 14
88 23
89 32
90 26
91 30
92 16
93 35
94 34
95 3
96 24
97 4
98 6
99 34
100 34
101 13
102 30
103 24
104 28
105 9
106 1
107 18
108 16
109 28
110 8
111 30
112 12
CD thanks, but I'm confused. The sample in spin 3 and 4 (5 and 17) are from group 5-7-8 and 24 is from spin 5 is group 4-6-9. How is that a win ?:o
I was working on these 2 sessions for the CD root system. It's appears you applied your workout to the key number. I needed help on the root system here.
First I want to say a big thank you to CD for sharing his ingenious systems which no doubt took a lot of time and patience to formulate. After having tested CD's Key system with moderate success, I decided to test CD's Root system and have had a fair deal of success...started with $200 test money and brought it up to $720 in about 4 days worth of testing. So once again, thank you ClothDog, and if you ever do decide to release your enhancements, I'd be more than happy to test those out as well.. So far on my real money account I've gone from $200 to $429...we'll see how far I can take it =o).
I think I have a decent grasp on this system, but in your post above ClothDog, I may be misunderstanding how you deal with a repeater (see comments below):
1 9
2 20
3 17
4 5...17-5
5 24--win
6 4
7 2
8 4..repeater (How is this a repeater? I thought repeating roots, or numbers in this case, had to be
back to back i.e. 4, 4, not 4, 2, 4 )
9 28-win (Assuming that you are now playing on the repeater (i.e. 4,6,9 group, how is 28 a win,
since 28 is from group 1? )
Below is the way that I thought it worked (bloomone, this might help your understanding of the root system also, I list the root to which each number belongs to help in tracking; hopefully i'm not misapplying CD's rules and confusing you even further :P):
Session1 Table 7 4/3/08
Spin# number
1 9 r9
2 20 r2
3 17 r8
4 5...17-5 r5 (play 7,8)
5 24 r6
6 4 r4
7 2 r2
8 4 r4 (lose, 4 spins without hitting roots 7, 8)
9 28 r1 (start tracking again)
10 23 r5
11 14 r5 (repeater, play 5,7,8)
12 28 r1
13 29 r2
14 36 r9
15 4 r4 (lose, 4 spins without hitting group 5,7,8)
16 1 r1 (start tracking again)
17 29 r2 (play root 1,3)
18 10 r1 WIN
19 7 r7 (start tracking again)
20 30 r3
21 22 r4
22 28 r1 (play roots 2,3, and 0)
23 30 r3 WIN
24 27 r9 (start tracking again)
25 12 r3
26 36 r9 (is this a repeater CD? i thought they have to be back2back )
27 7 r7
28 4 r4 (play roots 6,9)
29 24 r6 WIN
30 4 r4 (start tracking again)
31 35 r8
32 15 r6 (play 4, 9)
33 34 r7
34 31 r4 WIN
35 17 r8 (start tracking again)
...
I also thought I'd mention that i do play a bit of a progression if I lose a sequence (i.e. 3 or 4 spins without a win)...the progression adjusts though depending on whether i'm betting on 8, 9, 12, or 13 numbers.
OK. I didn't know you were doing the roots. the key system was killing here. Anyways, lets look at the roots.
I think I have a decent grasp on this system, but in your post above ClothDog, I may be misunderstanding how you deal with a repeater (see comments below):
1 9
2 20
3 17
4 5...17-5
5 24--win
6 4
7 2
8 4..repeater (How is this a repeater? I thought repeating roots, or numbers in this case, had to be
back to back i.e. 4, 4, not 4, 2, 4 )There can be no more than one spin between them. I stated ths in an earlier post. I don't believe I ever said they had to be back to back.
9 28-win I was playing the key system here.[/b] (Assuming that you are now playing on the repeater (i.e. 4,6,9 group, how is 28 a win, since 28 is from group 1? )
Below is the way that I thought it worked (bloomone, this might help your understanding of the root system also, I list the root to which each number belongs to help in tracking; hopefully i'm not misapplying CD's rules and confusing you even further :P):
Session1 Table 7 4/3/08
Spin# number
1 9 r9
2 20 r2
3 17 r8
4 5...17-5 r5 (play 7,8)
5 24 r6
6 4 r4
7 2 r2
8 4 r4 (lose, 4 spins without hitting roots 7, 8)
9 28 r1 (start tracking again)
10 23 r5
11 14 r5 (repeater, play 5,7,8)
12 28 r1
13 29 r2
14 36 r9
15 4 r4 (lose, 4 spins without hitting group 5,7,8)
16 1 r1 (start tracking again)
17 29 r2 (play root 1,3)
18 10 r1 WIN
19 7 r7 (start tracking again)
20 30 r3
21 22 r4
22 28 r1 (play roots 2,3, and 0)
23 30 r3 WIN
24 27 r9 (start tracking again)
25 12 r3
26 36 r9 (is this a repeater CD?...CORRECT. i thought they have to be back2back )SEE NOTE ABOVE.
27 7 r7
28 4.. r4 (play roots 6,9) WIN HERE BECAUSE OF REPEATER I HAVE ALSO FOUND THAT IT CAN BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO PLAY ONE MORE SPIN AND IF WIN PLAY AGAIN TILL YOU LOSE. MANY TIMES THESE ROOTS MAY HIT OVER 5X IN A ROW.
29 24 r6 WIN
30 4 r4 (start tracking again)
31 35 r8
32 15 r6 (play 4, 9)
33 34 r7
34 31 r4 WIN
35 17 r8 (start tracking again)
...
I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE ADVICE. WATCH THE BOARD. WHEN YOU SEE A ROOT THAT'S BEEN SLEEPING OVER 20 SPINS AND IT FINALLY HITS PLAY ALL 4 ROOTS. SAY THE ROOT OF 5 HASN'T HIT IN OVER 20 SPINS. NOW THE 7 & 8 ROOT HIT AND THEN A 5 ROOT HITS. YOU CAN TAKE IT TO THE BANK THAT 5-14-23-32 WILL HIT IN ONE OR 2 SPINS. I ALWAYS WATCH FOR THE SLEEPER
IN A GROUP. ANOTHER THING I KNOW I'VE SAID TO PLAY THE MISSING ROOT. IF THAT ROOT HAS BEEN COLD YOU MIGHT STICK TO THE 2 ROOTS THAT HAVE BEEN HITTING. EXAMPLE..23-12-17. NORMALLY PLAY ROOTS 5&7 BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BOARD AND SEE NO ROOT OF 7 THAT HAS HIT, IT'S A SLEEPER AND YOU SHOULD JUST CONTINUE WITH 5 & 8. IF YOU SEE A 7 ROOT ON THE BOARD THEN PLAY AS YOU WOULD NORMALLY. SORRY FOR THE CAPS.
When I play the 123 group, I just play the streets. here is an example from live playat the casino sat night.
5
36
10
20..I played the 4 streets 1-3, 10-12, 19-21, 28-30
1-win
28-win
12-win
11-win
27 lose ...4 winners in a row.
Also i will skip a few spins here. the root of 4 had not shown in 26 spins. here is what happened and I capitalized.
6
30
28..so the 2&3 roots should be played
31....at this point the root of 4 finally hit
22....after seeing this I told my friend at the table look for 13(reverse of 31) to hit. The root of 4 is back in the game
27..miss
13..HIT ..of course I had it.
Skipping about 7 spins the next numbers to show
19
35
29....play 1 & 3 or streets if you want
19..Win
4
2
20...Play the streets here
29..win
2...win
2...win
30...win
So the advantage of not stopping after you win picked up 3 more wins. If I would have lost I would have stopped. Notice how in 11 spins the 123 group hit 9 times. I'm done explaining this.You're on your own now. :'(
cd
CD
Spin# number Group W/L Comments
1 9 r9
2 20 r2
3 17 r8
4 5 r5 (play 7-8, 4spins)
5 24 r6 L
6 4 r4 L (new group, play 6-9)
7 2 r2 L
8 4 r4 L (play play 4-6-9)
9 28 r1 L
10 23 r5 L (lost 4 spins playing 4-6-9),retrack
11 14 r5 (repeater root, play 5-7-8)
12 28 r1 L
13 29 r2 L
14 36 r9 L
15 4 r4 L (lost 4spins w/5-7-8),retrack, Play 6-9
16 1 r1 L
17 29 r2 L (new group, play 1-3)
18 10 r1 W (win, retrack, play 2-3)
19 7 r7
20 30 r3 w (win, retrack, play 1-2 & 0)
21 22 r4 L
22 28 r1 w (win, retrack, play 2-3 & 0)
23 30 r3 w (win, retrack, play 1-2 & 0)
24 27 r9 L
25 12 r3 L (r3 so play whole group 1-2-3 & 0)
26 36 r9 L (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
27 7 r7 L
28 4 r4 w (win, retrack, play 6-9)
29 24 r6 w (win, retrack, play 4-9)
30 4 r4 w (win, retrack, play repeater 4= 4-6-9)
31 35 r8 L
32 15 r6 w (win, retrack, play 4-9)
33 34 r7 L (new group, play 5-8)
34 31 r4 L (dang would have hit the previous group)
35 17 r8 w (won anyway, retrack, play 5-7)
36 15 r6 L (new group, play 4-9)
37 26 r8 L (dang previous group hit again)
38 1 r1 L
39 14 r5 w (won anyway, retrack, play 7-8)
40 16 r7 w (win, retrack, play 5-8)
41 3 r3 L
42 35 r8 w (win, retrack, play 5-7)
43 12 r3 L (new group, repeater root 3, play 1-2-3)
44 5 r5 L (dang, previous group hit again)
45 22 r4 L
46 27 r9 L (new group, play 4-6)
47 6 r6 w (win, retrack, play 4-9)
48 10 r1 L
49 23 r5 L
50 31 r4 w (win, retrack)
51 25 r7 (play 5-8)
52 9 r9 L
53 31 r4 L (new group, play 6-9)
54 30 r1 L
55 28 r1 L (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
56 12 r3 w (win, retrack, play 2-3)
57 25 r7 L
58 0 r123 L (play 1-2-3 & 0)
59 2 r2 w (win, retrack, play 1-2-3 & 0)
60 16 r7 L
61 29 r2 w (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
62 11 r2 w (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
63 7 r7 L
64 29 r2 w (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
65 4 r4 L
66 6 r6 L (new group, play 4-9)
67 10 r1 L (dang previous group hit again)
68 19 r1 L (dang previous group hit 2x, new group, play 1-2-3)
69 9 r9 L (dang new previous group hit)
70 28 r1 w (win, retrack, play 1-2-3)
71 9 r9 L (new group, repeater root, play 4-6-9)
72 22 r4 w (win, retrack, play 6-9)
73 36 r9 w (win, retrack, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
74 7 r7 L
75 18 r9 w (win, retrack, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
76 34 r7 L (new group, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8)
77 36 r9 L (previous group hit)
78 7 r7 w (win, retrack, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8)
79 9 r9 L (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
80 15 r6 w (win, retrack, play 4-9)
81 0 r123 L
82 13 r4 w (win, retrack, play 6-9)
83 1 r1 L (new group, retrack, play 1-2-3 & 0)
84 3 r3 w (win, retrack, play 2-3)
85 33 r6 L
86 11 r2 w (win, retrack, play 1-3)
87 14 r5 L
88 23 r5 L (new group, repeater root 5, play 5-7-8)
89 32 r5 w (win, retrack, repeater root 5, play 5-7-8)
90 26 r8 w (win, retrack, play 5-7)
91 30 r1 L
92 16 r7 w (win, retrack, play 5-8)
93 35 R8 W (win, retrack, play 5-7)
94 34 r7 w (win, retrack, play 5-8)
95 3 r1 L
96 24 r6 L
97 4 r4 L (new group, retrack, play 6-9)
98 6 r6 w (win, retrack, repeater root 6, play 4-6-9)
99 34 r7 L
100 34 r7 L (new group, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8)
101 13 r4 L (previous root hit)
102 30 r1 L
103 24 r6 L (back to previous root, play 4-9)
104 28 r1 L (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
105 9 r9 L (previous root hit again)
106 1 r1 w (win, retrack, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
107 18 r9 L (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
108 16 r7 L
109 28 r1 L
110 8 r8 L (new group, play 5-7)
111 30 r1 L (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
112 12 r3 w (session end)
Summary: 112 spins, 105 bet opportunities, 36 wins and 69 losses. Maybe, someone can calculate whether this was a winning session or not. I think this is the way to play.
Please correct me if I am wrong someone, if there is a better way. Also, now that i look at the 2 lost spins at the beginning, i think they would avoided by new groups qualifying therefore, there are no losing groups played in this entire session. However, Im not sure flatbetting this way profitable. But a progression, I sure would have been profitable here.
WhiteKnight, how did you get your output to line-up so well? , I came close.
Bloom
i calculate approximately going by you wL 220 odd units won was up over 300 at one stage can be quite volatile but seems recover ok was minus over 100 at one stage in the beginning
Another thing is you dont play the zeoro but is up to individual just zero is part of root group
Also going by you win and losses 36 wins at 25 units a time on averge is 900 units won
69 losses at 10 units lost per time on average is 690 units
So approximate total is 210 units which is around what i calculated going over that session
Natural9, Thanks for the calculation evaluation. Thats sounds about right and a good reference point. Again, I think at the beginning It could have been played differently with better results and would not have as many losses, but even still a good recorded session.
Now, I would like to see an expert user evaluate my session. If this is correct! I can redo my sessions and hopefully get more consistent results, then continue testing accurately.
Bloom
CD, really really appreciate you taking the time to explain the repeaters, etc...I now understand that they dont have to be back to back. Also appreciate the more pointers you gave us regarding the board and street play also. Will miss not hearing anymore tips though from you regarding the system, but who knows, maybe in the future you will give us some more pointers, so thanks so much again!
@bloomone, the way your are playing above, is not the way that CD (correct me if i'm wrong) or myself play (i think CD mentioned that his friend plays that way though). After I lose a series, I wait a turn and begin tracking as I showed above in my other post; I also dont requalify a group once I'm betting on a certain group, UNLESS it's a repeater, as CD had suggested in his initial post of this system. You may want to recalculate based on the other way of playing and see if your results are better or worse.
As for the output lining up better than yours :P I just spaced it out manually :thumbsup:
QuoteCD, really really appreciate you taking the time to explain the repeaters, etc...I now understand that they dont have to be back to back. Also appreciate the more pointers you gave us regarding the board and street play also. Will miss not hearing anymore tips though from you regarding the system, but who knows, maybe in the future you will give us some more pointers, so thanks so much again!
@bloomone, the way your are playing above, is not the way that CD (correct me if i'm wrong) or myself play (i think CD mentioned that his friend plays that way though). After I lose a series, I wait a turn and begin tracking as I showed above in my other post; I also dont requalify a group once I'm betting on a certain group, UNLESS it's a repeater, as CD had suggested in his initial post of this system. You may want to recalculate based on the other way of playing and see if your results are better or worse.
As for the output lining up better than yours :P I just spaced it out manually :thumbsup:
@ CD, I agree Thanks a bunch CD for sharing and for a peek into the enhancements it is greatly appreciated. I will keep testing.
@ WhiteKnight, I hear ya, but now, I guess that's what he is basically doing, althought he enhancements he plays even less. Why dont you post one of your sessions and we can compare more notes. At this point now, im seeing 3 variations to this
Bloom
Hey Bloomone, decided to give your way of playing a try after i calculated that your session would have won $260 and mine would have lost $63 so here's a small sample of two of my sessions tonite:
May 7/08
33-r6
9-r9
6-r6 WIN
27-r9 WIN
12-r3
24-r6 WIN
NEW SESSION
25-r7
19-r1
26-r8
30-r3
23-r5
30-r3
17-r8
12-r3 WIN
8-r8
24-r6
19-r1
30-r3 (3 loses on root 8 repeater so start playing roots 1,2)
29-r2 WIN
2-r2
16-r7
30-r3 WIN
22 TOTAL SPINS
TOTAL PROFIT: your way of playing = $114, the other way i was playing = $50
keep in mind this is real money and started at $390 and just finished at $504 from these two sessions...the first sessions wasnt even a full session because i got into the game when the dealer was nearing the end of the shift. Not too bad, I think i'll test this way of playing CD's root system a little further but looks pretty good for tonite anyway...
Thanks, for sharing keep us updated. I will post another session
QuoteHey Bloomone, decided to give your way of playing a try after i calculated that your session would have won $260 and mine would have lost $63 so here's a small sample of two of my sessions tonite:
May 7/08
33-r6
9-r9
6-r6 WIN
27-r9 WIN
12-r3
24-r6 WIN
NEW SESSION
25-r7
19-r1
26-r8
30-r3
23-r5 WIN you missed a play here
30-r3
17-r8
12-r3 WIN
cd
Ok everyone, I posting the previous session again with the calculations, which is approximately correct. I may have a couple minor mistakes. I also included a 2nd approach of the same session as comparison that way done by cps10 for me. Thanks cps10. Now keep in mind everyone this doesnt include CD, latest and greatest nuggets he's shared with us. Which would typically be far less betting because you would be watching the wheel for more definite trends within the system. I think that is a separate study all together. so here goes
My session approach 1 with calculations:
Spin# number Group W/L Comments
1 9 r9
2 20 r2
3 17 r8
4 5 r5 (play 7-8, 4spins)
5 24 r6 L-8
6 4 r4 L-16 (new group, play 6-9)
7 2 r2 L-28
8 4 r4 L-40 (play play 4-6-9)
9 28 r1 L-52
10 23 r5 L-64 (lost 4 spins playing 4-6-9),retrack
11 14 r5 -64 (repeater root, play 5-7-8)
12 28 r1 L-76
13 29 r2 L-88
14 36 r9 L-100
15 4 r4 L-112 (lost 4spins w/5-7-8),retrack, Play 6-9
16 1 r1 L-124
17 29 r2 L-136 (new group, play 1-3)
18 10 r1 W-108 (win, retrack, play 2-3)
19 7 r7
20 30 r3 w-80 (win, retrack, play 1-2 & 0)
21 22 r4 L-88
22 28 r1 w-60 (win, retrack, play 2-3 & 0)
23 30 r3 w-32 (win, retrack, play 1-2 & 0)
24 27 r9 L-40
25 12 r3 L-48 (r3 so play whole group 1-2-3 & 0)
26 36 r9 L-60 (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
27 7 r7 L-72
28 4 r4 w-48 (win, retrack, play 6-9)
29 24 r6 w-20 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
30 4 r4 w 8 (win, retrack, play repeater 4= 4-6-9)
31 35 r8 L-4
32 15 r6 w20 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
33 34 r7 L12 (new group, play 5-8)
34 31 r4 L4 (dang would have hit the previous group)
35 17 r8 w32 (won anyway, retrack, play 5-7)
36 15 r6 L24 (new group, play 4-9)
37 26 r8 L16 (dang previous group hit again)
38 1 r1 L8
39 14 r5 w36 (won anyway, retrack, play 7-8)
40 16 r7 w64 (win, retrack, play 5-8)
41 3 r3 L56
42 35 r8 w84 (win, retrack, play 5-7)
43 12 r3 L76 (new group, repeater root 3, play 1-2-3)
44 5 r5 L64 (dang, previous group hit again)
45 22 r4 L52
46 27 r9 L40 (new group, play 4-6)
47 6 r6 w68 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
48 10 r1 L56
49 23 r5 L44
50 31 r4 w72 (win, retrack)
51 25 r7 (play 5-8)
52 9 r9 L64
53 31 r4 L56 (new group, play 6-9)
54 30 r1 L48
55 28 r1 L40 (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
56 12 r3 w64 (win, retrack, play 2-3)
57 25 r7 L56
58 0 r123 L48 (play 1-2-3 & 0)
59 2 r2 w62 (win, retrack, play 1-2-3 & 0)
60 16 r7 L50
61 29 r2 w74 (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
62 11 r2 w98 (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
63 7 r7 L86
64 29 r2 w110 (win, retrack, repeater root 2, play 1-2-3)
65 4 r4 L98
66 6 r6 L86 (new group, play 4-9)
67 10 r1 L78 (dang previous group hit again)
68 19 r1 L70 (dang previous group hit 2x, new group, play 1-2-3)
69 9 r9 L58 (dang new previous group hit)
70 28 r1 w72 (win, retrack, play 1-2-3)
71 9 r9 L60 (new group, repeater root, play 4-6-9)
72 22 r4 w74 (win, retrack, play 6-9)
73 36 r9 w102 (win, retrack, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
74 7 r7 L90
75 18 r9 w114 (win, retrack, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
76 34 r7 L102 (new group, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8)
77 36 r9 L90 (previous group hit)
78 7 r7 w114 (win, retrack, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8) Stopwin
79 9 r9 L102 (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
80 15 r6 w126 (win, retrack, play 4-9)
81 0 r123 L118
82 13 r4 w146 (win, retrack, play 6-9)
83 1 r1 L138 (new group, retrack, play 1-2-3 & 0)
84 3 r3 w162 (win, retrack, play 2-3)
85 33 r6 L154
86 11 r2 w182 (win, retrack, play 1-3)
87 14 r5 L174
88 23 r5 L166 (new group, repeater root 5, play 5-7-8)
89 32 r5 w190 (win, retrack, repeater root 5, play 5-7-8)
90 26 r8 w214 (win, retrack, play 5-7) stop win
91 30 r1 L206
92 16 r7 w234 (win, retrack, play 5-8)
93 35 R8 W262 (win, retrack, play 5-7)
94 34 r7 w290 (win, retrack, play 5-8)
95 3 r1 L282
96 24 r6 L274
97 4 r4 L266 (new group, retrack, play 6-9)
98 6 r6 w290 (win, retrack, repeater root 6, play 4-6-9) stopwin
99 34 r7 L278
100 34 r7 L266 (new group, repeater root 7, play 5-7-8)
101 13 r4 L254 (previous root hit)
102 30 r1 L242
103 24 r6 L230 (back to previous root, play 4-9)
104 28 r1 L218 (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
105 9 r9 L206 (previous root hit again)
106 1 r1 w230 (win, retrack, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3) stopwin
107 18 r9 L218 (new group, repeater root 9, play 4-6-9)
108 16 r7 L206
109 28 r1 L194
110 8 r8 L182 (new group, play 5-7)
111 30 r1 L174 (new group, repeater root 1, play 1-2-3)
112 12 r3 w198 (session end)
2nd approach by cps10 with calculations
Spin # Number Root Play W/L Prof/Loss Total
1 9 9
2 20 2
3 17 8
4 5 5 Roots 7/8
5 24 6 L -8 -8
6 4 4 L -8 -16
7 2 2 L -8 -24
8 4 4 Retrack L -8 -32
9 28 1 -32
10 23 5 -32
11 14 5 Roots 578 -32
12 28 1 L -12 -44
13 29 2 L -12 -56
14 36 9 L -12 -68
15 4 4 Retrack L -12 -80
16 1 1 -80
17 29 2 Roots 1/3 -80
18 10 1 Retrack W 28 -52
19 7 7 -52
20 30 3 -52
21 22 4 -52
22 28 1 Roots 2/3 -52
23 30 3 Retrack W 28 -24
24 27 9 -24
25 12 3 -24
26 36 9 Roots 469 -24
27 7 7 L -12 -36
28 4 4 Retrack W 24 -12
29 24 6 -12
30 4 4 Roots 6/9 -12
31 35 8 L -8 -20
32 15 6 Retrack W 28 8
33 34 7 8
34 31 4 8
35 17 8 Roots 5/7 8
36 15 6 L -8 0
37 26 8 L -8 -8
38 1 1 L -8 -16
39 14 5 Retrack W 28 12
40 16 7 12
41 3 3 12
42 35 8 Roots 5/7 12
43 12 3 L -8 4
44 5 5 Retrack W 28 32
45 22 4 32
46 27 9 Roots 4/6 32
47 6 6 Retrack W 28 60
48 10 1 60
49 23 5 60
50 31 4 60
51 25 7 Roots 5/8 60
52 9 9 L -8 52
53 31 4 L -8 44
54 30 3 L -8 36
55 28 1 Retrack L -8 28
56 12 3 28
57 25 7 28
58 0 Roots 1/2 28
59 2 2 Retrack W 28 56
60 16 7 56
61 29 2 56
62 11 2 Roots 123 56
63 7 7 L -12 44
64 29 2 Retrack W 24 68
65 4 4 68
66 6 6 Roots 4/9 68
67 10 1 L -8 60
68 19 1 L -8 52
69 9 9 Retrack W 28 80
70 28 1 80
71 9 9 80
72 22 4 Roots 6/9 80
73 36 9 Retrack W 28 108
74 7 7 108
75 18 9 108
76 34 7 Roots 578 108
77 36 9 L -12 96
78 7 7 Retrack W 24 120
79 9 9 120
80 15 6 Roots 4/9 120
81 0 L -8 112
82 13 4 Retrack W 28 140
83 1 1 140
84 3 3 Roots 1/2 140
85 33 6 L -8 132
86 11 2 Retrack W 28 160
87 14 5 160
88 23 5 Roots 578 160
89 32 5 Retrack W 24 184
90 26 8 184
91 30 3 184
92 16 7 Roots 5/8 184
93 35 8 Retrack W 28 212
94 34 7 212
95 3 3 212
96 24 6 212
97 4 4 Roots 6/9 212
98 6 6 Retrack W 28 240
99 34 7 240
100 34 7 Roots 578 240
101 13 4 L -12 228
102 30 3 L -12 216
103 24 6 L -12 204
104 28 1 Retrack L -12 192
105 9 9 192
106 1 1 192
107 18 9 Roots 469 192
108 16 7 L -12 180
109 28 1 L -12 168
110 8 8 L -12 156
111 30 3 Retrack L -12 144
112 12 3 ~~End~~
QuoteQuoteHey Bloomone, decided to give your way of playing a try after i calculated that your session would have won $260 and mine would have lost $63 so here's a small sample of two of my sessions tonite:
May 7/08
33-r6
9-r9
6-r6 WIN
27-r9 WIN
12-r3
24-r6 WIN
NEW SESSION
25-r7
19-r1
26-r8
30-r3
23-r5 WIN you missed a play here
30-r3
17-r8
12-r3 WIN
cd
Hey CD, just to let you know I didnt Win with 23 because i switched from 5,7 to 1,2, since I was playing the other way of requalifying new roots...
Also, briefly tried playing the streets you mentioned when group 1,2,3 shows up, but didnt really find it was profitable since I was betting $5 to only win $12...if I lost the next one, then I have to increase the bets on the streets to try to make it back. Do you only play the streets if any of the roots from 1,2,3 are repeaters, or do you even play the streets if only 2 roots of the group shows up? In one of your example you played the streets after 2, 20 showed back to back, and in the other you played the streets after 10,20 (roots 1 and 2) showed? Dont feel obligated to answer, you've already been really helpful as it is!!
you can switch the roots around with a new signal. you really have to look at the board to see what roots are falling. I mean if you saw roots 5&7 hit and then roots 1&2 hit in between, look at the board. If you have 578 hitting and don't see any 123 I wouldn't switch. You will also notice that the groups themselves sleep. stay away from sleepers.
If the table is crowded sometimes it's just faster to get bets down when playing streets. also my bets are much bigger on the streets.
cd
CD,
Your response makes so much sense regarding switching groups and increasing the bet on the streets, thanks so much again for your words of wisdom!!
I just wanted to ask, does this system depend on dealer signatures etc? Because i have been playing live of course, but at a casino where the wheel is not spun from the previous number; instead, after the number comes up, the dealer then spins the wheel and waits for all the bets and then drops the ball, usually the wheel spins 40seconds before the ball is dropped again. However, having said this, so far the system has worked with the results I posted before, so that is why I was wondering if you designed this system based on dealer signatures etc? I guess as you said before though, the board gives indication of what roots to choose, even if the dealer in my case is not spinning the wheel and dropping the ball in the same manner that would happen in a land-based casino or dublinbet.
A monkey can be spinning the ball.
cd
QuoteA monkey can be spinning the ball.
cd
HaHaHaHa - Too Funny
iggy
Ok, I played with CD's enhancement just a little bit on this next session. This takes a little experience to get good at it.
Session2 Table 10 4/2/08
Spin# number Grp W/L Comments
1 21 r3
2 5 r5 (play 7-8)
3 7 r7
4 31 r4 L
5 16 r7 w (wait for new trend)
6 0 r123
7 13 r4
8 29 r2
9 14 r5
10 7 r7 play the 578 group it is hot 5-8
11 27 r9 L-8
12 28 r1 L-16
13 36 r9 L-24 (new group repeater 9, 4-6-9)
14 24 r6 w 0 (play 4-9)
15 17 r8 L-8
16 26 r8 L-16 (new group 5-7-8)
17 3 r3 L-24
18 0 r123 L-36 (new group 1-2-3)
19 10 r1 W-12 (continue)
20 11 r2 w 12 (play 1-2-3, hot group)
21 31 r4 L 0 (continue)
22 11 r2 w 24 (continue)
23 21 r3 w 48 (continue)
24 9 r9 L 36 wait for new signal
25 31 r4 play 6-9
26 32 r5 L 28
27 30 r1 L 20
28 24 r6 w 48 wait for new signal
29 34 r7
30 35 r8 play 5-7
31 6 r6 L40
32 25 r7 w68 continue
33 32 r5 w96 continue
34 33 r6 L88 wait
35 17 r8 wait
36 0 r123 (play group, because the trend hits in 1 or 2 spins)
37 3 r3 w112 continue
38 22 r4 w100 wait
39 35 r8
40 26 r8 repeater 8, play 5-7-8
41 30 r3 L88 switch to the hot 1-2-3 group, play 1-2
42 20 r2 w116 continue w/group switch to 1-3
43 3 r3 w144 continue with 1-2
44 13 r4 wait
45 14 r5 wait
46 11 r2 switch to 1-2-3
47 36 r9 L132 wait
48 35 r8
49 17 r8 repeater 8, play 5-7-8
50 33 r6 L120 this is not the hot 123 group so continue
51 16 r7 w144 wait
52 30 r1 play 2-3
53 22 r4 L136 continue
54 27 r9 L128 group 123 is falling off, play 4-6
55 15 r6 w156 wait
56 26 r8 wait
57 34 r7 play 5-8
58 22 r4 L148 continue
59 19 r1 L140 change to hot group play 2-3
60 0 r123 L132 didnt play the zero, play 1-2-3
61 7 r7 L120 wait
62 12 r3 wait( group 1-2-3 is getting tricky)
63 27 r9
64 22 r4 play 6-9
65 19 r1 L112 switch to 2-3
66 2 r2 w140 wait
67 35 r8 wait
68 4 r4
69 27 r9 wait (because the 469 group has been skipping)
70 2 r2 play 4-6
71 9 r9 L132 missed the 9, play 4-6-9
72 13 r4 w156 wait
73 20 r2 go back to 1-3
74 32 r5 L148 wait
75 11 r2 play 1-2-3
76 17 r8 L136
77 34 r7 L124 new group 5-8
78 5 r5 w152 wait
79 22 r4
80 4 r4 play 4-6-9
81 22 r4 w176 continue
82 26 r8 L164 continue
83 21 r3 L152 continue
84 23 r5 L140 continue
85 4 r4 w168 wait
86 29 r2 L160 play 1-3
87 16 r7 wait
88 10 r1 play 2-3
89 12 r3 w188 wait
90 7 r7 wait
91 27 r9
92 29 r2
93 31 r4 play 6-9
94 18 r9 w216 stopwin end session
95 33
96 25
97 13
Bloom,
yes, you're getting the hang of it. i've looked at thousands of spins. You have to be observant and not just bet blindly. The trend is your friend. Set a reasonable goal for yourself and get out when you hit it. If i have the time at some point I will post another way I use this. To all, PLease don't send PM's. I won't respond.
Good luck. :thumbsup:
cd
Thanks CD for the validation :thumbsup:
Look forward to review and test the other way to us it!
Bloom
Has anyone notice the following with CD Root System? Maybe, some one has been able to capitalize on these pattern. Im not sure yet how to isolate the indicators or triggers. Can anyone expand on this idea?
Spin 4 and 6, bring spin 8
Spin 13 bring Spin 14 and spin 14 bring spin 15
Spin 16 bring spin 19
Spin 21 bring spin 22
1, 33 r6
2 22 r4
3 32 r5
[highlight]4 10 r1 [/highlight]
5 35 r8
[highlight]6 30 r3 [/highlight]
7 36 r9
[highlight]8 0 r123 [/highlight]
9 3 r3
10 34 r7
11 28 r1
12 3 r3
[highlight]13 15 r6
14 5 r5
15 15 r6 [/highlight]
16 29 r1
17 27 r9
18 23 r5
19 19 r1
20 0 r123
[highlight]21 21 r3
22 12 r3[/highlight]
Spin 77 bring 79 bring 82 bring 83
Spin 84 bring 86
Spin 87 bring spin 88
65 17 r8
66 9 r9
67 9 r9
68 0 r123
69 21 r3
70 18 r9
71 34 r7
72 13 r4
73 32 r5
74 33 r6
75 17 r8
76 35 r8
[highlight]77 9 r9 [/highlight]
78 21 r3
[highlight]79 19 r1 [/highlight]
80 4 r4
81 7 r7
[highlight]82 19 r1
83 29 r2 [/highlight]
[highlight]84 22 r4[/highlight]
85 21 r3
[highlight]86 22 r4[/highlight]
[highlight]
87 5 r5
88 25 r7[/highlight]
Bloom
Dang! I've all but abandoned my own thread!!
bloom
Ah, you touched a chord with Ol' TwoCat when you speak of numbers "bringing" other numbers.
Back a year ago I postulated that certain numbers enticed other numbers to appear. I have noted this phenomenon many, many times.
Recently I read a book on coincidence. One scientist advanced the theory that "things like to happen together". I firmly believe this
I used to sell parts. We'd have a seldom-needed part on the shelf and would not sell one for months. As soon as we sold it, before we could get to the supplier, another customer wanted one. This happened too many times for us not to notice. People who were new commented on it without ever having been told others thought that way, too.
To cut to the chase: Birds of a feather really do flock together. Certain numbers will form a "flock" and another number will join the flock.
It is the same with repeating numbers. None will happen for fifty spins (#5 with no more than three spins until the next #5) and then every third number is a repeater.
Keep sniffin' in that direction.
Sam
Bloom,
I'm sure I sent you my end digits. Because these are exact copies of my end digit How the end digit of one number brings on 3 different end digits which would be 12 numbers.
I've noticed this for along time. There are no coincidences. Watch this:
If any one of these hits 13-16-23-26 , play all 4. Or if you want to expand play all 12-13-16-21-23-26-32.
But you may only use 13-16-23-or 26 as the key number. The other add ins are NOT key numbers.
CD
QuoteBloom,
I'm sure I sent you my end digits. Because these are exact copies of my end digit How the end digit of one number brings on 3 different end digits which would be 12 numbers.
I've noticed this for along time. There are no coincidences. Watch this:
If any one of these hits 13-16-23-26 , play all 4. Or if you want to expand play all 12-13-16-21-23-26-32.
But you may only use 13-16-23-or 26 as the key number. The other add ins are NOT key numbers.
CD
Thanks for the response CD, however, i never got an exact copy of the end digits copies, could you send or resend to me. I did find the key numbers from and old thread, but you said this is different and i do recall reading somewhere where you spoke about an end digit twist that you would post when you had time.
Also, kinda spread throughout the various threads and post. i believe you mention that the last digit 0s could bring a zero and the 21 or 12 can bring its reverse. But im also seening the 5s and 9s characters, which i havent seen a breakdown of all these last digits anywhere to make a good assessment
I will give 3.
3's bring 3-5-6 so.....3-13-23-33-5-15-25-35-6-16-26-36
5's bring 5-3-9 etc.
6's bring 6-3-8
btw these come from an ancient text, which involves triangles.
cd :thumbsup:
Thanks CD, however, where is the rest of these or what ancient text of triangles or where can I find it.
Otherwise, i will do the research or figure it out and post the results myself
or am I just the only one on here that dont know the answer...lol
Just a calculated guess
0 bring 0-1-4
1 bring 1-0-7
2 bring 2-0-4
Sorry Bloom, I'm not giving the rest of it away or selling it. I will tell you, your calculation is not correct. you only have one number right in each group. ::)I've done alot of research and spent alot of money on certain books (not roulette) regarding matrix of numbers. Some are not in print anymore.Some of the books were written in the late 1800's & very early 1900's.
Besides you can get enough plays with the three I gave you. ;)
cd
As always CD thanks for sharing. I play with the 3 you have given
Hey CD,
Many thanks for the information you have shared ;)
very very kind..... ;)
Any chance you could recommend one of the "matrix" books to help us on our way???
Either way Cheers....[smiley=beer.gif]
Any chance someone will tell me what a matrix is? Or an ecart for that matter?
winkel?
(Google? I gots no stinkin' Google!)
TwoCat
sam,
I pm'd you re: my system and turbos. You haven't responded.
cd
Any chance you could recommend one of the "matrix" books to help us on our way???
Either way Cheers....[smiley=beer.gif] [/quote]
A cheap but good one is "the kabala of Numbers" by sepharial. you'll find it on amazon.com
cd
Thanks CD appreciated..... ;)
Hi Folks,
I found this book overhere, you can read it also. Click on the link nolinks://nolinks.scribd.com/doc/269564/Sepharial-The-Kabala-Of-Numbers
Carlitos 8-)
carlitos,
There are 2 parts. This is part one.
You need part 2 of the book. This information is not what you're looking for.
cd
CD, Thanks for the heads-up :thumbsup:
I recall reading this book before, but didnt know their way a part2
Okay!!
Do you mean this book nolinks://nolinks.hermetics.org/pdf/manualofoccultismsephariel.pdf%20 ?
Carlitos 8-)
The book that cd is referring to is called The secret progression i think.But good luck finding that one,i didn't.
QuoteOkay!!
Do you mean this book nolinks://nolinks.hermetics.org/pdf/manualofoccultismsephariel.pdf%20 ?
Carlitos 8-)
No, I have that book. There are TWO books. The second one is the one you want. The secret progression is in "The kabala of numbers part II" Yes, good luck in finding it. It may pop up on amazon. I found it a few years ago. I paid a used bookstore on amazon.
cd
Hopefully CD it is the one in the link below :-
nolinks://nolinks.amazon.co.uk/Kabala-Numbers-Handbook-Interpretation-Pt/dp/0766128458/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212328015&sr=1-7
Let's hope so as I have just ordered this book :-/
Cheers CD
Hi,
you can find this book "The Kabala Of Numbers (Sepharial, 1920).pdf " in the collection of magic book. You can download collection from this site: nolinks://nolinks.torrentz.com/ba71e182af567f6726f4825697bc60c657a1632f
Cheers
QuoteHopefully CD it is the one in the link below :-
nolinks://nolinks.amazon.co.uk/Kabala-Numbers-Handbook-Interpretation-Pt/dp/0766128458/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1212328015&sr=1-7
Let's hope so as I have just ordered this book :-/
Cheers CD
I just download the book you order, but Im not sure that is correct one. Only CD can confirms.
Thanks for taking the time to do that Alfa :thumbsup:
Appreciated ;)
Hopefully CD will get back when he has a moment.....
I bought a book like that and it was incomplete. I have the complete version. Hopefully yours will contain everything. You need the chapter "coincidences make laws" There are 14 chapters in Part II.
cd :thumbsup:
Thanks yet again CD :thumbsup:
I will see if I can find out if that chapter IS in the book..... ;)
Appreciate you taking the time to reply.... ;)
Take it easy.....
Cd, this book is not easy to find and track down title. I see different variations of the book in the title and description by sepharial. i think this was the problem i ran into a couple years ago.
ie Kabala of numbers or Kabala of Numbers: A Handbook of Interpretation (1920): Pt. 1 & 2 (Paperback)
both claim part 1 and part 11 but not sure if the same or different.
maybe the following will help track it down:
total number of pages? is it 432p
What is the ISBN number? i've a couple different variations.
What is the full title name?
This book is non-refundable or print on demand so i want to make sure im getting the correct version/title with the charter referenced.
Thanks
Bloom
Bloom,
it's probably the same one i have. 432 pages is right.
cd
Thanks CD, the 2 variations i see are from two different publishers but its the same number of pages and one publication is half the price of the other but states the same number of pages. Strange!
The Kabala of Numbers
by Sepharial
Publisher: Cosimo Classics
Pub. Date: November 2005
ISBN-13: 9781596054042
Sales Rank: 218,375
432pp
Kabala of Numbers a Handbook of Interpretation part 1 and 2
by Sepharial
Publisher: Kessinger Publishing Company
Pub. Date: February 2003
ISBN-13: 9780766128453
Sales Rank: 625,641
432pp
Is this the subtitle: "a Handbook of Interpretation"?
i will probably have to contact these publishers directly and ask when i find their contact info.?
Thanks
Bloom
Book Synopsis
[T]here is a system of interpretation in numerology which is supported by experience, but has its origin beyond the realm of the phenomenal worlds. If no such system existed, it would be impossible to prove the geometrical relations of thought. But this is done daily by those who make use of numbers for purposes of divination.-from "Chapter II: Geometrical Relations of Thought" Originally published in two volumes in 1913, this classic of the art of numerology builds upon the work of the ancient Greeks, Aryans, and Egyptians to describe the dramatic effect that numbers exert upon the world all around us. Part I introduces numerological theories and practices, including how to read others' thoughts through numbers, predict and influence success and failure, and understand "chance" events. Part II explores the geometry of nature and how it affects us, numbers that sway human will, and much more. For practitioners of the paranormal arts and those interested in the history of science and pseudoscience, this is a fascinating and essential book. "Sepharial" was the pseudonym of British mystic WALTER GORN-OLD (1864-1929), one of the most prolific writers on and teachers of astrology in modern times. Among his many works are Astrology Explained, Cosmic Symbolism, Science of Foreknowledge, and The Silver Key.
Ok,guys as i remember somebody on this forum or rouletteforum mentioned vibration science, well here it is i uploaded to rapidshare for your reading pleasure nolinks://rapidshare.com/files/119509131/vilot.htm.html I actually wondered if it would be wiser to send you guys PMs with the link but what the heck, this is a forum. /Cheers,
Aleister
I have the vibration roulette, lotto and keno and this one as well. The roulette one is interesting. I've incorporated some of his ideas into my own play.
cd
Cd, doesn't Vibration Roulette use the same priciples as vibration lotto? Unity phase resonance,120 degree etc.
yes, but there are different formulas for roulette numbers.
cd
Just to let everyone know the link in my reply #91 is the correct book ;D
I got it today & read the chapter CD recommended ::)
What can I say, I've got I tell I've got it.... :D :) :D
A Fookin headache that is :-[ :-[
I will try & work it out....
Hope springs eternal.....
Well, getting back to the idea of testing cd's system............
Downloaded 100 + spins from Riverbelle on 6/5/8 and the Root system produced a $90 profit.
Anyone want to see the worksheet?
Sam
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Did another 28 spins from R.B. and profited 40u
QuoteDid another 28 spins from R.B. and profited 40u
Hey TwoCatSam,
Are you playing CD's root system as was described in his original post, or a variation of it?
You results look good. For me, this system has worked in the past but only in short spurts. If used in the long run, I found i'd hit horrendous runs and lose a lot of my winnings. Maybe I wasn't playing properly - CD mentioned that it's never gone south for him.
Key to this system is reading the trend, and not playing blindly.
Cheers,
Bruce
Bruce
My way of play is exactly as cd spelled it out. This is fodder for a whole new editorial, but I believe testers should first give the author's method a decent trot before making any changes.
I am playing all 3 roots at once and, yes, sometimes a root is cold while another is just knockin' 'em dead.
I will try to attach a worksheet to this post.
Sam
TCS, form my understanding, CD may play all 3 roots at some point during a session but he typical does not play all 3 roots at once during a session.
Bloom
bloom
I personally do not subscribe that that line of thinking. It's just a personal quirk of mine.
If I recall, Turbo said he plays only the first dozen, yes, and that dozen because he likes to sit next to the wheel. What If I sat next to him and played dozen two? And you sat next to me and played dozen three? What if I played all three, or you or Turbo. The outcome would be exactly the same.
Over the years I have learned, playing systems, the only way to win (my opinion only-- I have not been up the mount) is to play two or three or more systems at the same session. When one or two loses, the other one or two could have a whale of a day. Who cares what system wins as long as you can say, "Well, I'm up a hundred and I'm hitting the street"?
Samster
Very interesting Sam, thanks for sharing that information.
The major challenge is tracking and placing your bets for multiple systems at the same time within a session.
Hey Xman & Cd, I got my copy also of the recommended book, with the Coincidences Make Laws chapter, which in my version is chapter 9 in part 2 of the book. I completed one quick read. Heavy stuff. It is not a simple read. i personally will have to re-read a few times to get the essence that Cd has. It looks like this was tailored for combinatorial lotteries. So, after understanding the structure, then one will have to modify it appropriatey to a permutation format, i.e. roulette or pick 3 and 4 lotteries. :-/ But maybe Xman got it all figured out like Cd after reading the chapter.
Bloom
yes, it takes a little figuring but you can certainly apply it to roulette real easy. I tend to use the inverted pyramid using 5 numbers. have fun with it. I can do it in about 10 seconds. Just practice. There is a piece he wrote which is not in the book where he goes into more detail. But no one seems to know where that is.
cd
Sam,
good job! ;)There is nothing wrong with playing 12 numbers. I notice sam you did not endure any long losing streaks, which is another benefit of 12 numbers. I saw what I thought were some wins that you missed but I could be wrong. I do play 12 numbers if there are repeaters or root repeaters. I just try to keep the cost down playing 8 numbers. Again watch the board. You may see that you have to play 12 numbers, if my original way is not coming in.Another way, you can play is wait for a new signal instead of using the last winning number. when you win, discard that winner and start over. Just a thought. I don't know if it works better or not. :thumbsup:[smiley=beer.gif]
cd
Did you notice the trifecta at the Belmont Stakes yesterday that paid almost 4 grand????
4-6-9....hmmmmmm the cd root!!! 8-)
Ahhh..but didn't play it. :'(
cd
Hey Bloom :D
Look at reply #104 dude.....
That how close I am....... :-[
LMAO[smiley=grin.gif]
Wish I was lying CD but unfortunately not..... :'(
But Hey, like I said hope springs eternal..... :thumbsup:
& again thanks for the incite CD ;)
Xman,
here is the pyramid from the book. say the last 5 numbers are 34-23-2-14-6 which translates to roots as
7 5 2 5 6... I don't extend it here like he shows. It'll end up the same number reversed anyways
7 5 2 5 6..add them
5 1 4 1 3..add every digit to the one next to it
6 5 5 4..keep doing it
2 1 9
3 1
4 ...So your main root is 4. Key number is 31. Play it for x number of spins. You don;t have to use 5 numbers. I've done it with 3, 6 whatever.
Simple deal :thumbsup:[smiley=Santa001.gif]
cd
Cool stuff CD, i was just reviewing that inverted pyramid. Thanks for breaking it down and showing us the possibilities. This is definitely something to play with.
Bloom
Thanks CD ;)
Will try and glean something from it..... :-?
As always appreciate you taking the time..... :thumbsup:
cd
That inverted triangle made me itch.
"I saw what I thought were some wins that you missed but I could be wrong." If you are of a mind and have time, point out the spin numbers where this happened.
I'm under some stress with being a nurse, and I make more mistakes than usual.
Sam
Test Results: Riverbelle 6/6/8 120 spins
123 root......<106>
469 root........48
578 root.......168
Overall profit of 110 units. The 123 root really dragged down the profit. This was a tough bunch of numbers as Turbo's system didn't fare so well either. This result is why I like to play three or four systems together, or at least all the parts like dozen one, two and three or all three roots. Usually all three will not fail together or if they do, it will be a close call.
I will post the sheets if asked.
Sam
yes, please post
Thanks
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Hi Sam I tested this method quite a bit and performed very well at the beginning then it took a dive nearly lost all its hard earned profits I would really like to know if it is a long term winner
Cd thinks it is but the results i got werent to encouraging sometimes the roots just wont appear they seem to get in a loop just as one set qualifies the one you were on shows up stuff like that have you had any similar results it really has good logic behind it tho
Regards Natural
Hey, Natural! Cd says that you should watch the board. I used this system for good profit but when i used it in fun mode when i didn't feel the wheel will behave like he described, i lost every time.I just watched the board and everything was chaos so i would lose, but when i won i tell you that the 578 root was on the board 8 times out of ten! Needless to say i made some units ;D .
Natural
I don't know the logic behind it. Would you explain that to me?
Yes, a root will get hot and hit four times in a row. Another will grow cold. However, if one is hot another must be cold. If red hits, black doesn't.
Long term? Well, who knows. I would like to meld it with another system to reduce "volatility" as it's called. Bet fewer numbers; get more winners.
I'll test this for a while as I think there is something there. Look for a 200 spin test soon as I can work it.
Sam
Well I think numbers hit in groups as someone said in another post numbers tend to trigger other numbers whethers thats true or not i cant really say i tihnk that is logic behind it anyhow maybe Cd can say why he chose these numbers for these particular roots as he said in a post earlier there is a reason why them in the order they are
Regards Sam and all Natural
I've made more money just playing the 578 roots. Don't know why.
cd
After further testing, I find this methodology goes further into my pocket than I could bear. My last test went down 242 units, which, even for $5 bets would kill me. This was less than 50 spins into the test. The root not covered seem to hit with uncanny frequency and when I included it, nothing.
Sam
Sam, you cannot play the root in a mechanical fashion and have long term success, i have painfully discovered that, this system has to grow on you in more of an intuitive and mechanical combination. Watching the board in key. personally for me, i have to play many spins to be a pro with this one, but im getting it. The more you play the more you see the patterns on the board. im not 100% sold on it but im getting close. i will do some more testing on DB in a couple days.
Bloom
I think I am officially a fan of this system.
CD, I think this system is a little dealer sensitive. I mean if you are watching the board, it is a good idea to watch the dealer results. Im finding some consistency there as well. It's interesting. Have you had a similar experience? Everytime I work with this system I learn something new, although, I havent played it for real yet. It grows on you over time.
Thanks again for sharing this system CD.
Through further testing i see that it doesnt have to be dealer sensitive. its a matter of choice.
hi bloomone2002, i am officially a fan of this root number system too. :-)
real money, managed to increase it quite well. anyone else using this system too?
cheers!
BobbyBobby
Quote from: bloomone2002 on June 25, 2008, 08:25:25 PM
I think I am officially a fan of this system.
CD, I think this system is a little dealer sensitive. I mean if you are watching the board, it is a good idea to watch the dealer results. Im finding some consistency there as well. It's interesting. Have you had a similar experience? Everytime I work with this system I learn something new, although, I havent played it for real yet. It grows on you over time.
Thanks again for sharing this system CD.
Through further testing I see that it doesnt have to be dealer sensitive. its a matter of choice.
I tested both this and the digit sum sets last week(short tests)
Digit sum worked better for me - the results were more predictable.
metalrat
hi Metalrat :-)
what do you mean by Digit Sum?
BobbyBobby
bobbybobby,
this is the digit sum set:
1 10 19 28
2 11 20 29
3 12 21 30
4 13 22 31
5 14 23 32
6 15 24 33
7 16 25 34
8 17 26 35
9 18 27 36
metalrat
hi metalrate, thanks.
is that (the digit sum set) same as Root Number?
sorry, i may be wrong. please share with ok? thanks
:-)
BobbyBobby
Bobbybobby
Finals nrs:
0 10 20 30
1 11 21 31
2 12 22 32
3 13 23 33
4 14 24 34
5 15 25 35
6 16 26 36
7 17 27
8 18 28
9 19 29
metalrat
Quote from: metalrat on November 01, 2008, 07:20:48 AM
Bobbybobby
Finals nrs:
0 10 20 30
1 11 21 31
2 12 22 32
3 13 23 33
4 14 24 34
5 15 25 35
6 16 26 36
7 17 27
8 18 28
9 19 29
metalrat
Hi Metalrat,
So were you betting one / two / three / four sets of those numbers???
How many had to hit in how many spins Etc.....
IF you could take a moment to explain that would be greatly appreciated....[smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I was playing it more or less like explained here: nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/clothdog%27s-root-system/ (nolinks://vlsroulette.com/full-systems/clothdog%27s-root-system/)
Betting 2 groups ie 4-6 or 4-9 or 6-9 if I thouht that the 4-6-9 group was due.
Just my 2 cents worth, but I also had bought Vibration Roulette about a year ago. Thought it was nonsense
until I decided to take a serious look at the tables used in the system last week.
Since then I am experimenting with a 3 number system. I am not a mathematician so there is a lot of info which I am not sure of how to use. the people at Vibration Science are not being very helpful either. Clothdog, any suggestions?
metalrat
Thanks for getting back to me ;)
I have also bought Vibration Roulette, but couldn't make head nor tails out it....
too many numbers to bet for me... :-[
No mate, forget all the crib cards.
Just concentrate on the Roulette numbers Phase Resonance chart and the difference between nrs to start with (try12 nrs). Interesting stuff.
metalrat
Thanks Metalrat ;)
Will take a further look when I get some time....
Cheers.....[smiley=beer.gif]
Have you found that using finals on the root sums works well? If so, what kind of progression are you using? I think maybe even using a 9-point divisor would be very good for this kind of play.
Hi all,
I've been playing some games with the inverted pyramid that Clothdog showed in this topic (end of page 8).
I made an excell file to calculate it, so no need to make it by hand.
The best results I've had, was playing for 1 or 2 bets only.
For ex.:
Inverted pyramid result tells me to play root 3, so I play numbers 3, 9, 18 and 36 for the next spins (best results I've had is with 1 or 2)
This excell sheet also is based on a 0.5 bet per number (dublinbet).
Some sessions go skyrocket, others not so well.
Test some sessions, and let us know...
Do you have the link to where that Inverted Pyramid is?
First time I saw it, was in this topic (page 8 in the end), I'm applying that principle.
The book where it was adapted from is this one:
nolinks://books.google.pt/books?id=zZ-dVg8e-P4C&pg=RA1-PA135&lpg=RA1-PA135&dq=kabala+Coincidences+Make+Laws&source=bl&ots=r06HMIxJaw&sig=sgOq1BY3u03SHtYn4hTEuv6HYp4&hl=pt-PT&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PRA1-PA145,M1 (nolinks://books.google.pt/books?id=zZ-dVg8e-P4C&pg=RA1-PA135&lpg=RA1-PA135&dq=kabala+Coincidences+Make+Laws&source=bl&ots=r06HMIxJaw&sig=sgOq1BY3u03SHtYn4hTEuv6HYp4&hl=pt-PT&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result#PRA1-PA145,M1)
If someone could add more information, it would be great.
Rjl,
I've had that book for a number of years. the pyramid I have used it in different ways but could find nothing consistent. I've used 3-4-5 spins, 6 spins and 7 spins. I'm currently testing another root system. which is based on a number of spins, playing 3-9 numbers. I will include a report from roulette extreme. It's on my other computer. As far as vibration roulette goes the best part of the book is playing numbers that are 12 apart. Like 1-13-25....2-14-26 etc. whenever 2 of those numbers show within 4 spins play all 3. I developed a chart that included more numbers than that. It's probably posted somewhere here. but 0/00 goes with 12-24-36.
cd
Hi Clothdog,
I'd be glad to see your report.
I believe that numbers are connected somehow...
If you could show us your new method, that would be great.
Good luck!
Rjl