I HAVE ATTACHED MY SYSTEM OF THE 6 EVA SIDE HOPE I GET ALOT OF RESPONCE OF ALL THE BIG TIMERS ON HERE THE MODERATORS AND THE EXCELLENT MEMEBERS AND STUFF JUST EVERYONE HAVE A LOOK IM GIVING IT TO YOU ALL.
First I have to download office LOL :) then I will check it
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 18, 2008, 07:01:40 AM
I HAVE ATTACHED MY SYSTEM OF THE 6 EVA SIDE HOPE I GET ALOT OF RESPONCE OF ALL THE BIG TIMERS ON HERE THE MODERATORS AND THE EXCELLENT MEMEBERS AND STUFF JUST EVERYONE HAVE A LOOK IM GIVING IT TO YOU ALL.
Many thanks for sharing Matt. [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Will review and comment too.
Your friend,
Victor
Question matt: Can I repost in forum format for those who do not have WORD 2007? (Regular post preserving images, highlighting, etc.).
I liked to see at your samples it got positive which is good matt, I like disk-based play a lot.
The system is smart. One comment for a tweak? Work with 3 simultaneous sets: clockwise and anti-clockwise + both directions. You should enhance your betting opportunities' entrypoint!
Your friend,
Victor
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 18, 2008, 07:01:40 AM
I HAVE ATTACHED MY SYSTEM OF THE 6 EVA SIDE HOPE I GET ALOT OF RESPONCE OF ALL THE BIG TIMERS ON HERE THE MODERATORS AND THE EXCELLENT MEMEBERS AND STUFF JUST EVERYONE HAVE A LOOK IM GIVING IT TO YOU ALL.
Does it earn 40 units per hour playing with 1. units? What about if you played with 2. units per bet.....your saying this system would then average 80. units per hour?
.............. I downloaded it but can not open this file :'( Even not with the Word Viewer from MS :o
Great suggestion Victor :D Well finaly I succeed opening it with Openoffice.
Carlitos 8)
.....by the way, what means " eva " :o Even sides?? ???
This systeem needs an little more explanation....... ::)
Carlitos 8)
eva mean neigbours, I was playing something similar some time ago and I must say that that system should work o.k.. It takes a bit of tracking and stuff :)
thanks for sharing
The only thing I understood is the meaning of eva sides thanks to the drawing
The rest, I'm not sure
The number in green seem to be the number winner but what do mean the numbers in yellow?
And I don't understand why in the example of drawing, you bet on 3, 7 and 25 because for me, it's not logical with that you explained
Quote from: ced82 on October 18, 2008, 12:15:26 PM
The only thing I understood is the meaning of eva sides thanks to the drawing
The rest, I'm not sure
The number in green seem to be the number winner but what do mean the numbers in yellow?
And I don't understand why in the example of drawing, you bet on 3, 7 and 25 because for me, it's not logical with that you explained
Numbers in yelow are last number + 6neigbours miss..
3,7,25 are placed because he explained the the bets 3 last numbers which are not in sector.
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 18, 2008, 07:01:40 AM
I HAVE ATTACHED MY SYSTEM OF THE 6 EVA SIDE HOPE I GET ALOT OF RESPONCE OF ALL THE BIG TIMERS ON HERE THE MODERATORS AND THE EXCELLENT MEMEBERS AND STUFF JUST EVERYONE HAVE A LOOK IM GIVING IT TO YOU ALL.
mate,what about the 2Eva 8 numbers system?So which one are you using this or the 8 numbers?I am confused,whats the difference betwen the two?
Quote from: see_jerek on October 18, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 18, 2008, 07:01:40 AM
I HAVE ATTACHED MY SYSTEM OF THE 6 EVA SIDE HOPE I GET ALOT OF RESPONCE OF ALL THE BIG TIMERS ON HERE THE MODERATORS AND THE EXCELLENT MEMEBERS AND STUFF JUST EVERYONE HAVE A LOOK IM GIVING IT TO YOU ALL.
mate,what about the 2Eva 8 numbers system?So which one are you using this or the 8 numbers?I am confused,whats the difference betwen the two?
here you have to wait for 4virtual misses :)
the 2 eva side system makes more money but this is a safer system where you dont have to be betting everyspin with this one you get time to check both tables that dublin bet provide to see if any of them have a wait of 4 times.
and for the tweaking we should do 6 eva side of the second to last number wait 4 times then bet its the same thing but we could be tracking 2 things at once anyone think this would be good i do
example
25,27,35,26,3,35,36,20,20,23,we would now have a bet from 36 to 23 4 times without hitting 6 eva side of the second to last number
averone understand ::)
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 18, 2008, 12:47:16 PM
example
25,27,35,26,3,35,36,20,20,23,we would now have a bet from 36 to 23 4 times without hitting 6 eva side of the second to last number
averone understand ::)
Maybe I ask a lot but I would like understand perfectly. I'm not familiar with all the terms of roulette so what is a
sector in your explanation?
Can you do an example indicating the last number where we are focused, 4 numbers of waiting and the numbers we play?
Thank you
o.k m8 the origianl 6 eva side of the last number and the last 3 numbers not within our section already...
26,
33, 1 wait
1, hit start waiting again
20, no wait here
34, 1 wait
26, 2nd wait
3, hit start waiting again
23, 1 wait
26, 2nd wait
17, 3rd wait
14, 4th wait
28, 1st bet lost
29, 2nd bet won we know need to wait 4 times again
after the spin at 14 we know have to bet next on the system number 6 numbers to the left and 6 numbers to the right and the last 3
numbers not within our section alredy which would be in this case 17,26,23,3 so a total of 16 numbers coverd.
does that help anyone :o
In your example, why 23 26 17 14 make part of numbers of waiting?
What is the number center of 6 eva side???
we are covering 6 eva side of number 14 and the last 3 numbers before 14
Ok but i don't understand why you waited until four times until the number 14
......still not very clear...... :o Can you give an good example like for example -,
26
17
11
........ etc.....
...... so now i play from 17 each side 34 6 27 13 etc..... other side 25 2 21 4 19 etc....
Remember the above is just an example...... ::)
Carlitos 8)
23,
19,
26,
33, 1 wait 33 is not within 6 eva side of 26
1, we didnt bet here but it hit within 6 eva side so start waiting again
20, no wait here hit within 6 eva side of 1
34, 1 wait 34 is not within 6 eva side of 20
26, 2nd wait 26 is not within 6 eva side of 34
3, no bet but this is within 6 eva side of 26 so start waiting again
23, 1 wait 23 is more than 6 eva side of 3
26, 2nd wait 26 is more than 6 eva side of 23
17, 3rd wait 17 is more than 6 eva side of 26
14, 4th wait 14 is more than 6 eva side of 17
19, OUR FIRST BET we cover 6 eva side of 19 and 19 the other 3 numbers we cover are 14,23,20 ----lost
29, 2ND BET we cover 6 eva side of 29 and 29 the other 3 numbers we cover are 19,17,23,----- won
28, won this bet but we have to now wait for a fun of 4 times without hitting 6 eva side
that any help
Thanks Mattjono for your quick reply!! ;) I hope so..... :)
Carlitos 8)
Good, I think I understood now but I didn't imagine your method would necessitate so much attention
Do you have time to study and place bets at the same time on dublin? :o
I do not have microsoft office word,,, I cannot DL the attatchment. How else can I view this system?
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 18, 2008, 12:43:37 PM
the 2 eva side system makes more money but this is a safer system where you dont have to be betting everyspin with this one you get time to check both tables that dublin bet provide to see if any of them have a wait of 4 times.
and for the tweaking we should do 6 eva side of the second to last number wait 4 times then bet its the same thing but we could be tracking 2 things at once anyone think this would be good I do
Hello Mattjono,
Is this gonna work?Your 2 eva had already fail every badly do you think your 6 eva will work when a 2 eva can't even work properly and unable to get the results you claim.I think you should do more testing and be sure of things before you come to a conclusion that it can grind 40 units an hour?40 units is not little if its $10 per unit.that's 400 bucks an hour.If you grind for 2 hours a day,that will be 800 and with that kind of money it can generate,no one will ever wanna look for a decent job,just play roulette for 2 hours per day will do you will be better off than an middle class executive.
Why don't I offer you a proposal since you are so confident and of course it will benefit you as well?I will provided the bankroll and I will give you a week to grind a reasonable amount that that you think you are able to achieve.50% of the winning goes to you,I will bear all the loss?Yes I am bringing on it,do you dare to take on me?
You are right I'm being point blank blunt,I had enough of BS systems for the past few weeks that doesnt work,system creators always boost about how successful they are and how rich they have become playing their creation but when I play the same way,it always tank,it always fail,it always lose.I really don't understand why people have to fabricate lies to cheat themselves and others.What good does it give them?To claim that you have a system that can profit constantly so that others will envy and worship you?Or do these people have an ego problem?All of us know there is no way we can't beat roulette in the long run so why cheat ourselves?
Matt and fellow members,if you find my post offensive.I just wanna speak nothing but the truth to get it off my mind.Please do forgive me and accept my apologies,I am really sick after taking beatings and setbacks again and again recently.
I downloaded it but cannot open. Looks like I don't have the proper Abrakadabra key (MS2007). No use.
Hermes
Good post Jerek, it was needed.
A system like this is never, ever going to work in the long run.
Quote from: Shorty on October 19, 2008, 02:20:25 AM
Good post Jerek, it was needed.
A system like this is never, ever going to work in the long run.
I think its fair to let mattjono know not to post any rubbish that doesn't stand a chance at all,might get people into trouble
Any positive results anyone is getting besides Mattjono?I don't want to wrong a person.If you get a positive result do come forward and offer your testimonial.I will appreciated it greatly thanks
Quote from: see_jerek on October 18, 2008, 07:04:43 PM
Why don't I offer you a proposal since you are so confident and of course it will benefit you as well?I will provided the bankroll and I will give you a week to grind a reasonable amount that that you think you are able to achieve.50% of the winning goes to you,I will bear all the loss?Yes I am bringing on it,do you dare to take on me?
Don´t do that. There is a logical reason for my words. It sounds like I´m copying @herb:
Both tries are equal to bet any 15 numbers. Please look at the testing of KFS and you will see what will happen.
There might be good runs and you win, but it has no advantage in the long run.
br
winkel
Quote from: winkel on October 19, 2008, 06:31:48 AM
Quote from: see_jerek on October 18, 2008, 07:04:43 PM
Why don't I offer you a proposal since you are so confident and of course it will benefit you as well?I will provided the bankroll and I will give you a week to grind a reasonable amount that that you think you are able to achieve.50% of the winning goes to you,I will bear all the loss?Yes I am bringing on it,do you dare to take on me?
Don´t do that. There is a logical reason for my words. It sounds like I´m copying @herb:
Both tries are equal to bet any 15 numbers. Please look at the testing of KFS and you will see what will happen.
There might be good runs and you win, but it has no advantage in the long run.
br
winkel
The wiseman has spoken and I had a great deal of respect for this man.His system and a few others I shortlisted are the sure winners,I can put my ass on the line for this man,the most difficult part is to try to master it and I have failed.
@ winkel,
I just had enough of rubbish systems that has no evidence to prove their claims so I thought I will go hard on these clowns for the benefit of others who wish to try it,waste time and money and at the end of the road discovered it doesn't work.Its disgusting
appriciate all you comments however i dissagree
i believe if anyone can send me a 100-200 spin session on a live table i will 99.9% make a profit why crnt i. i have done for all the tesing as you can see in the system i attached. ye maybe i could do with a thew more sessions abit longer but i would like to go on dublin right now and make £40++ within a hour and i will print screen on bets made and bets won when i am £40+ i will stop and attach the results to this thread. obviously i have no money it will just be with the free *500 they give you to play with.
does no one at all see this as a guarenteed profit system :o
i have also have a print sreen session lasting 15 mins from the 2eva side session(the problem with the 2eva side is does lose and go on long runs however if this does happen just carry on playing and you will be in profit) anyway 4get about the 2eva side for now ay.
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 19, 2008, 08:14:09 AM
appriciate all you comments however I dissagree
i believe if anyone can send me a 100-200 spin session on a live table I will 99.9% make a profit why crnt i. I have done for all the tesing as you can see in the system I attached. ye maybe I could do with a thew more sessions abit longer but I would like to go on dublin right now and make £40++ within a hour and I will print screen on bets made and bets won when I am £40+ I will stop and attach the results to this thread. obviously I have no money it will just be with the free *500 they give you to play with.
does no one at all see this as a guarenteed profit system :o
i have also have a print sreen session lasting 15 mins from the 2eva side session(the problem with the 2eva side is does lose and go on long runs however if this does happen just carry on playing and you will be in profit) anyway 4get about the 2eva side for now ay.
Hello Matt,
You'ver got mail.7000 spins from a live wheel.you will see if it profits or not?Is your 2 eva system highly defensable?Or shall we forget about it?Which one will you put your money on?The 2 eva or the 6 eva with 4 miss?Make up your mind,let's not get people lost in the jungle shall we?
Do you mean either when you use the word "eva"?
???
of 7,000 spins on a live table ye you would make profit but i would only be playing at a table for 1hour to 3 hours.
7,000 spins all in a row how did u get this or u just saying as an example
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 19, 2008, 08:37:06 AM
of 7,000 spins on a live table ye you would make profit but I would only be playing at a table for 1hour to 3 hours.
7,000 spins all in a row how did u get this or u just saying as an example
I got the spins recorded over a long period of time on a live wheel I did not come out the numbers myself.if you are saying you will play 1 to 3 hours and 1 spin is about a minute.why don't you break up the 7000 into 150 spins per session.There will be a average and run it thru your 6 eva system,if you can win 9 sessions out of 10,I will really take my hat off even if its 8 out of ten,it will be a respectable system,nothing forgetting you lose more than what you win per session.8 out of 10 is a good gauge.I think it will fail I don't know what makes you so confident.Try it run it through in spins of 150.
@shorty
Eva means neighbours,what are look at here is the six neigbours on the left and right of the last spin result for example
0=2,3,4,12,15,19,21,25,26,28,32,35.
could you please attach a session of 150 spins or more ill do the system on that and show you how much profit was made cheers m8
see_jerk
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 19, 2008, 09:06:45 AM
could you please attach a session of 150 spins or more ill do the system on that and show you how much profit was made cheers m8
see_jerk
ok have a go at this spins from playtech live wheel on 17.10.08
33
27
1
35
36
5
11
20
29
4
25
26
35
17
28
15
27
10
32
1
10
16
28
23
4
17
7
9
24
32
28
32
15
9
33
33
29
23
9
14
18
13
17
14
31
23
16
19
34
20
11
19
21
31
5
10
29
25
8
31
14
34
12
35
20
23
17
18
6
20
3
29
14
32
18
30
19
7
18
36
31
4
14
24
30
14
34
21
6
4
8
21
28
35
4
3
15
2
13
11
36
20
34
9
4
16
22
15
7
20
33
13
6
29
32
0
31
31
7
7
21
25
10
29
26
9
24
28
12
6
0
24
11
9
23
19
13
4
8
8
22
18
12
22
2
7
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 19, 2008, 09:06:45 AM
could you please attach a session of 150 spins or more ill do the system on that and show you how much profit was made cheers m8
see_jerk
another 1 session on 01.10.08 315 spins
29
19
12
2
13
24
25
30
26
27
17
30
9
1
30
1
11
23
9
22
23
13
32
10
29
12
20
10
25
26
10
10
12
10
15
2
31
31
17
10
23
16
9
31
32
2
17
34
16
4
31
28
20
16
19
30
32
8
15
20
7
28
28
14
5
35
14
31
35
9
22
17
27
20
3
19
5
31
34
4
16
35
27
33
29
33
35
34
30
22
0
23
28
31
8
22
19
34
2
12
21
10
10
14
16
0
19
35
27
13
25
26
26
16
31
24
12
7
34
10
13
21
19
13
31
16
28
0
4
7
35
19
15
15
0
4
28
34
34
20
29
15
33
22
8
2
29
4
31
25
28
13
31
34
8
11
35
9
13
19
11
5
7
24
14
28
20
18
17
19
35
1
21
4
0
6
2
33
28
23
7
31
28
14
29
10
19
3
36
25
29
28
16
36
7
15
21
33
30
17
32
1
12
30
31
14
17
10
11
1
31
33
24
4
29
4
4
3
4
22
4
8
34
8
2
36
23
6
26
8
33
1
9
13
27
28
0
17
1
23
20
15
32
10
20
22
10
35
6
9
8
6
2
33
15
35
2
21
11
34
17
16
12
1
23
0
22
3
18
32
17
9
24
12
2
36
10
14
3
13
29
30
23
20
35
13
33
33
7
3
2
14
29
3
25
13
31
18
35
33
34
4
32
25
18
30
32
4
5
19
6
19
10
13
17
33
27
1
35
36--- bet1 lost
5---- bet 2 won +£14= total profit so far =£14
11
20
29
4
25
26
35
17
28
15
27
10-----bet1 lost was 7 away from27
32-----bet2 lost
1------bet3 lost
10-----bet4 won +£20 total profit so far =£34
16
28
23
4
17
7
9
24
32
28
32
15
9
33
33
29
23
9
14
18
13
17
14
31
23
16
19
34
20
11
19
21
31
5
10
29
25
8
31
14----- bet1 won +£20 total profit so far =£54
34
12
35
20
23
17
18
6----- bet1 lost
20-----bet2 won + £14 total profit so far =£68
3
29
14
32
18
30
19
7------bet1 lost
18-----bet2 won +£14 total profit so far =£82
36
31
4
14
24-----bet1 won +£20 total profit so far = £102
doing the rest now m8 but i would of stopped after £100 profit
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 19, 2008, 08:14:09 AM
does no one at all see this as a guarenteed profit system :o
and then this:
QuoteI have no money
why don´t you have money with two winning systems in your hand?
br
winkel
;D ;D ;D ;D------NO MUNY TO START OF WITH GOT £90 TO £800 ON GOLDEN PALACE BUT DIDNT ABLIGE BY THE BONUS RULES SP THEY WONT LET ME COLLECT...... AND IM IN DEBT FROM MY YOUGER YEARS FROM LADBROKES ROULETTE IV BANNED MYSELF NOW THO FOR 6 YEARS HAD A BEETER LIFE SINCE THEN
I HAVE JUST BEEN LOOKING AT THE G.U.T THAT SOUNDS GOOD BUT CRNT GET MY HEAD AROUND IT
Sorry Mattjono,
I can´t trust a person having a winning system but being that stupid. sorry for this.
1. Why don´t you read bonus rules?
2. why don´t you denie collecting bonus?
3. If your systems that runner why:
- don´t you start at a casino with 10ct minimum so lazy 50$ will give you a bankroll of 500 units?
- why don´t you earn your profits and raise to a unit=20ct. and then raise to a unit of 30ct. and so on?
- why can´t you afford 50$???????????
br
winkel
Guys, please take every ones comments with a pinch of salt. No point getting testy here. Remember always play within your means. Play at your own risk. If in doubt test it first.Then proceed with real money if you are comfortable. I don't see any reason for the author to lie. Hes not gaining anything at all out of this.
Cheers
Hams
Hi
OK.... mattjono, I agree ....so can you write for more explanations 2 eva side system,pls....... the same numbers with progression 11123-stop
Thanks!
Regards
Quote from: doki on October 19, 2008, 11:32:02 AM
Hi
OK.... mattjono, I agree ....so can you write for more explanations 2 eva side system,pls....... the same numbers with progression 11123-stop
Thanks!
Regards
Hi Doki,
Welcome on board good to see you here mate! ;)
Hi Matt,
Your system looks good to me - I haven't tested yet so I have no data to confirm my first impression.
I guess I'm the odd one out in that regard! I'm very impressed with all the replies - the test data they contain adds weight to what would otherwise be throw away opinions.
Good luck and keep winning.
Best regards
Quote from: see_jerek on October 19, 2008, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: doki on October 19, 2008, 11:32:02 AM
Hi
OK.... mattjono, I agree ....so can you write for more explanations 2 eva side system,pls....... the same numbers with progression 11123-stop
Thanks!
Regards
Hi Doki,
Welcome on board good to see you here mate! ;)
Hi mate
You are everywhere ;) Thanks for your emails I will keep resultes ..It is good for test
Regards !
I tested 2 EVA & Adam on ca. 200 spins and I think it is more good luck strategy than something firm in the hand. I won and lost with a negative end result. No worth to lose too much time with it. So far the Hashishfun neighbors strategy was the best idea on neighbors play but I don't know what happened to Hashishfun? Probably he overdosed the fun and play it now successfully on the dark side.
Nothing personal against mattojono, he is a good guy. Everybody try to do his best. Who doesn't try, never know.
Hermes
This post reminds me of Xandrew's Corner system which he could never quite explain. He said he had made $50,000 with it but now was broke. He would not post it until someone sent him money, so I sent him $100 US.
I still have the system and never tested it. Point is, if it's the "Grail", one should be able to start from almost nothing and build a bankroll. All it takes is time.
I recently started playing with real money at Bella Vegas. They put $150 bonus money in my account. I almost could not get them to take it out. Finally I said just take it out and NEVER put money in my account again and they did.
They have a good wheel and you can bet .50 per number. Golden Casino will allow you to deposit and not put in bonus money and they will pay.
MATTJORNO
Does it matter: Live or RNG?
Sam
thanks everyone i have come to the conclusion that the 2 eva side is not worth it i now have to agree...
but with the 6 eva side system i wish i could figure a way of betting from the start look at this
29
19
12
2
13--- win
24
25
30
26
27
17---win
30---win
9
1---win
30---win
1---win
11
23---win
9---win
22---win
23---win
13---win
32
10
29
12---win
20
10
25
26
10---win
10---win
12
10---win
15
2---win
31
31---win
17
10
23---win
16---win
9---win
31---win
32
2---win
17---win
34---win
16
4
31
28---win
20
16---win
19
30
32
8
15
20
7
28---win
28---win
14
5---win
35
14---win
31---win
35---win
9
22---win
17
27---win
20
3
19---win
5
31
34
4---win
16
35
27
33
29
33---win
35---win
34
30---win
22
0
23
28
31---win
8
22
19
34---win
2---win
12
21
10
10---win
14
16---win
0
19---win
35---win
27
13---win
25---win
26
26---win
16
31---win
24---win
12
7---win
34
10
13---win
21
19---win
13---win
31
16---win
28
0---win
4---win
7
35---win
19---win
15---win
15---win
0---win
4---win
28---win
34
34---win
20
29
15
33
22---win
8
2
29
4
31
25
28
13
31---win
34
8
11---win
35
9
13
19
11
5---win
7
24
14---win
28
20
18---win
17
19---win
35---win
1
21
4---win
0---win
6
2---win
33
28
23
7
31---win
28---win
14
29---win
10
19
3---win
36
25---win
29
28---win
16
36
7
15
21---win
33
30
17
32
1
12
30---win
31
14---win
17
10
11
1
31---win
33---win
24---win
4
29
4---win
4---win
3---win
4---win
22
4---win
8
34
8---win
2
36
23---win
6
26
8
33---win
1---win
9---win
13
27---win
28
0---win
17
1
23---win
20
15
32---win
10
20
22---win
10---win
35
6
9
8
6---win
2---win
33
15
35---win
2---win
21---win
11
34---win
17---win
16
12
1
23---win
0
22
3
18---win
32
17
9
24
12
2
36
10---win
14
3
13
29
30
23---win
20
35
13
33
33---win
7
3
2
14
29---win
3---win
25
13---win
31
18---win
35---win
33
34
4---win
32---win
25---win
18
30
32
4---win
5
19
6
19---win
10
13
17---win
this is my problem my system numbers add up to 16 numbers coverd and i would say this is a very good hit rate for 16 numbers and longest it goes is like 10 times max. so if we could do a progression of 12 times i would say we would never or 99.9% never lose lol
this is the only thing i can think of hopefuly the maths are correct
Wait
Wait
Wait
0.50p used £8 win total £10
0.50p used £16 win total £2
£1 used £32 win £4
£2 used £64 win £8
£4 used £128 win £16
£7 used £240 win £12
£10 used £400 lose -£40
but would be good to be betting first time because of the runs like this
10---win
14
16---win
0
19---win
35---win
27
13---win
25---win
26
26---win
16
31---win
24---win
12
7---win
34
10
13---win
21
19---win
13---win
31
16---win
28
0---win
4---win
7
35---win
19---win
15---win
15---win
0---win
4---win
28---win
i say we carnt have it both ways betting from the start and never losing, however if we wait we will never lose wel for this anyway
Hello Matt,
So have you decided yet?what is the course of action?What is the best progression?
You have to decide others will run tests,so will I
i would like to see the futhest it has ever gone then we can see how many times we should wait and how many times we have to bet... see_jerk you got any more long live spin sessions i could see if any of them will go futher than the 9th bet i havnt seen it go to the tenth bet yet but i know it probly will...
See_Jerek,
Just do some testing yourself and clock the win rate/frequency. If you need assistance with selecting a suitable staking plan based on your test data summary there are plenty of helpful members here who will oblige you.
Best regards
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 20, 2008, 11:04:25 AM
i would like to see the futhest it has ever gone then we can see how many times we should wait and how many times we have to bet... see_jerk you got any more long live spin sessions I could see if any of them will go futher than the 9th bet I havnt seen it go to the tenth bet yet but I know it probly will...
Did you recieve my email yesterday?
hi mate, these are 256 spins from live roulette, i dont have excel so iv had to pm you, hope you dont mind,
22
27
16
17
35
25
8
2
6-----win
0
14
4
24
36
36-----win
29
1
1-----win
10
29-----win
32
26-----win
33
31-----win
10-----win
26-----win
1
36
33
36-----win
23-----win
10-----win
6
30-----win
3
30-----win
17
8
24-----win
16-----win
28
15
2-----win
18
30
15-----win
3-----win
35-----win
9
6
13-----win
26
16
34
30-----win
23-----win
9
1-----win
27
3
0-----win
20
27-----win
22
26
30
16-----win
22-----win
18-----win
6
13-----win
27-----win
16
16-----win
36
18
17
26
16
7
4
32-----win
8
4-----win
33
11
31
29-----win
17
28
15
5
0
20
1-----win
31-----win
9-----win
22-----win
35-----win
34
===session end never went past the 9th bet still
10
23-----win
19
6
14
23
30-----win
20
1-----win
0
32-----win
25-----win
25-----win
30
33-----win
4
9
15
7
31-----win
21
15-----win
31-----win
14-----win
20-----win
10
13-----win
6-----win
28
26-----win
13-----win
19
35-----win
34
7
22-----win
20-----win
34
19
36
29
31-----win
21
6-----win
29
7-----win
31-----win
22-----win
0
26-----win
12-----win
29-----win
27
21-----win
29-----win
29-----win
30
31
35
18-----win
28-----win
15
11
13-----win
22
28-----win
3-----win
22-----win
34
22
9-----win
1-----win
23
5-----win
4
11
15
17-----win
15-----win
15-----win
0-----win
1
23
7
12-----win
12-----win
5
36-----win
13-----win
6-----win
35
26-----win
12-----win
36
5-----win
12-----win
31
15
7
===session end longest went was the 5th bet
6
30-----win
13-----win
15
34
9
17
4-----win
5
29
18-----win
11
18-----win
22-----win
19
20
17
7
18-----win
4
21-----win
12
8
5-----win
23-----win
34-----win
34-----win
33
18
4
4-----win
2-----win
20
3
4-----win
13
27-----win
19
10
6
11-----win
0
0-----win
18
0-----win
6
25-----win
25-----win
32-----win
13
20
9-----win
10
3
5
4
0-----win
===256 spins longest went was the 5th bet
if you need anymore i have another 1500, jus ask mate
i have put a win next to every time we would have won
Hi MattJono
Have you tried the De Alembart progression on each spin of 16 numbers you have? Add a chip every time you lose and subtract a chip from previous betting amount after a win. Over a long session of say 30 to 60 spins, may amount to some good profits. Just a thought! Test it out, see if it maybe the answer to the solution you are looking for!
Cheers
Rocky
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 20, 2008, 11:04:25 AM
i would like to see the futhest it has ever gone then we can see how many times we should wait and how many times we have to bet... see_jerk you got any more long live spin sessions I could see if any of them will go futher than the 9th bet I havnt seen it go to the tenth bet yet but I know it probly will...
Hi Matt,
Playtech live wheel actuals 19.10.08, 210 spins
Give it a go,the more we test the more confident of the system,then you can bet with confidence knowing the failure rate is low.
12
15
6
30
34
19
22
36
21
7
20
20
27
1
19
28
6
27
22
11
33
8
26
21
30
1
5
2
11
21
6
11
27
1
36
20
0
10
1
34
25
27
20
25
13
30
1
35
20
7
19
1
23
22
20
15
24
27
30
13
24
9
32
35
14
21
22
13
15
7
4
0
7
20
23
20
10
31
36
16
29
32
29
12
34
7
16
4
5
19
13
25
35
0
24
5
0
33
28
22
14
29
10
22
16
30
31
22
5
24
17
26
30
7
36
28
26
15
34
18
25
10
8
0
16
36
18
5
22
7
12
16
14
6
10
35
7
3
12
12
32
17
20
25
34
26
12
5
10
21
17
24
15
13
24
11
10
26
14
27
23
26
36
16
10
18
12
25
1
20
10
11
12
23
29
3
17
34
34
28
7
10
Hi Matt,
Playtech live wheel actuals 19.10.08, 210 spins
Give it a go,the more we test the more confident of the system,then you can bet with confidence knowing the failure rate is low.
12
15-----win
6
30-----win
34-----win
19-----win
22
36
21
7
20
20-----win
27
1
19
28
6
27-----win
22
11
33
8-----win
26
21-----win
30
1
5-----win
2
11
21
6-----win
11-----win
27-----win
1-----win
36
20
0
10
1
34
25-----win
27-----win
20
25-----win
13-----win
30-----win
1
35
20
7
19
1-----win
23
22
20-----win
15
24
27
30-----win
13-----win
24-----win
9
32
35-----win
14
21
22
13
15
7
4
0-----win
7-----win
20
23
20-----win
10-----win
31
36
16
29
32
29-----win
12-----win
34
7
16
4
5
19
13
25-----win
35
0-----win
24
5-----win
0-----win
33
28
22-----win
14-----win
29-----win
10
22
16
30-----win
31
22-----win
5
24-----win
17
26
30
7
36
28
26-----win
15-----win
34
18
25
10
8-----win
0
16
36
18
5
22
7-----win
12-----win
16-----win
14
6
10
35
7-----win
3-----win
12-----win
12-----win
32-----win
17
20
25
34-----win
26
12-----win
5
10-----win
21
17-----win
24
15
13
24-----win
11-----win
10-----win
26
14
27
23-----win
26-----win
36
16
10-----win
18
12-----win
25
1
20-----win
10-----win
11-----win
12
23
29
3-----win
17
34-----win
34-----win
28
7-----win
10
Furthest bet would of been the 8th ......
I need to make or find out the best way of betting this anymore ideas because this doesn't look like it will go past the 10th bet.. and i would say thats pretty good for 16 numbers and playing with the 0 aswel.
and see_jerek thanks for the live spins m8 hopefully keep the runs lower than 9th bet iv not seen it go that far yet but even if it did it wouldnt be a loss because the hit rate so good. thats saying we would be betting up to the 9th bet god nose, but will find a good betting pattern
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
0.50p used £8 win total £10
£1 used £24 win £12
£2 used £56 win £16
£4 used £120 win £24
£10 used £280 win £80
I'm not sure if i have the brains or the knowledge to work out a safe way of playing from the start so this way is allot safer to me
However i can see from all the testing i have done we would harldly ever get any bets to play (waiting 5 times then betting 5 times)
:-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :o
Hi Matt, I am intrested to see if you get the same results on Real Money RNG spins, do you mind using these actuals.
144 Spins Playtech RNG
27
29
20
4
10
12
13
29
5
4
6
22
34
11
19
25
4
2
28
10
13
30
11
28
1
8
27
15
27
8
18
12
31
7
20
9
32
18
6
34
11
17
11
22
0
35
33
15
30
33
2
31
27
21
16
21
13
10
33
15
33
32
0
23
4
29
7
33
36
11
14
9
8
8
8
32
24
5
13
20
32
7
28
30
33
5
30
16
7
21
3
2
9
25
1
15
2
9
34
27
17
16
35
9
15
35
28
17
26
20
27
18
7
24
27
2
23
34
15
5
31
1
18
31
19
34
20
16
5
31
19
0
36
6
18
5
17
1
16
27
27
36
10
5
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 21, 2008, 12:01:51 AM
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
0.50p used £8 win total £10
£1 used £24 win £12
£2 used £56 win £16
£4 used £120 win £24
£10 used £280 win £80
I'm not sure if I have the brains or the knowledge to work out a safe way of playing from the start so this way is allot safer to me
However I can see from all the testing I have done we would harldly ever get any bets to play (waiting 5 times then betting 5 times)
:-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :o
so how many times did you wait for in your test and what was the progression and units you place.Please advise
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 20, 2008, 11:33:04 PM
Furthest bet would of been the 8th ......
I need to make or find out the best way of betting this anymore ideas because this doesn't look like it will go past the 10th bet.. and I would say thats pretty good for 16 numbers and playing with the 0 aswel.
Just a quick note when using progressions... I see this comment all the time. You can't expect it to win all the time within X spins. Trust me, it will go past the 10th bet. The key is making sure your wins can cover the loss.
I'm not saying this system works or doesn't (I haven't tested it), but just because you've only seen 8 losses in a row, doesn't mean you won't see 20. Just a heads up. I bet on 31 numbers at a time and have seen over 12 losses in a row, so be wary.
Otherwise - good luck!
MM
Quote from: mattymattz on October 21, 2008, 11:46:43 AM
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 20, 2008, 11:33:04 PM
Furthest bet would of been the 8th ......
I need to make or find out the best way of betting this anymore ideas because this doesn't look like it will go past the 10th bet.. and I would say thats pretty good for 16 numbers and playing with the 0 aswel.
Just a quick note when using progressions... I see this comment all the time. You can't expect it to win all the time within X spins. Trust me, it will go past the 10th bet. The key is making sure your wins can cover the loss.
I'm not saying this system works or doesn't (I haven't tested it), but just because you've only seen 8 losses in a row, doesn't mean you won't see 20. Just a heads up. I bet on 31 numbers at a time and have seen over 12 losses in a row, so be wary.
Otherwise - good luck!
MM
Matt,
Fully agreed,everything can happen ona roulette table
Ok mattjono.....You cahnge few times the rules ....I have questions to you.Please, tell us what exactly we have to do?...when we WIN (set new numbers and play immediately or repeat same numbers?) and when we LOSE (set new numbers and play immidiately or repeat same numebrs?) What is the best progression? When we need wait ? I want test this system but real money....
Thanks
Regards
Hello Doki,
That is what I have been telling Mr Mattjono,he wants to be an attention seeker by posting up his system but it tanks and he keeps changing his playing method.When confront by questions,he doesn't know how to answer them.
Doki,I think you can forget about this system becos Mattjono doesn't know how he wants to play it as well defintely unable to ask your questions.Well he got all the attention he wanted but his system is a flop.
Go and look thru the full systems,those that has great results have the most number of post and system creator is always there to answer any questions to help you learn it.
This one stinks
o.k this is the one im wait 5 times then bet 5 times im sticking to this now for sure. on dublin bet its good because we can keep track of 2 tables so easier to find the 5 waits. only problem is crnt start it not got £280 >:( got 2 inteviews next week tho so shud get 1 of them, keep testing in the mean time ay.
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
0.50p used £8 win total £10
£1 used £24 win £12
£2 used £56 win £16
£4 used £120 win £24
£10 used £280 win £80
Quote from: MATTJONO on October 21, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
o.k this is the one im wait 5 times then bet 5 times im sticking to this now for sure. on dublin bet its good because we can keep track of 2 tables so easier to find the 5 waits. only problem is crnt start it not got £280 >:( got 2 inteviews next week tho so shud get 1 of them, keep testing in the mean time ay.
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
Wait
0.50p used £8 win total £10
£1 used £24 win £12
£2 used £56 win £16
£4 used £120 win £24
£10 used £280 win £80
Hello Matt,
At least now you make up your mind,so now just chill people will test it defintely and see if its anything good at all.