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Advantage Play (roulette wheel physics) => Roulette Physics => Topic started by: Shorty on April 27, 2009, 12:48:16 PM

Title: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on April 27, 2009, 12:48:16 PM
...Or not.

I typed out a big long post explaining how I'm bored of reading the same old stuff on this forum and what I'm going to be doing in this topic but I decided against posting a novel like post on here.

In short -

Me vs Dublinbet: Flat betting only. Each session will be 36 spins, betting every spin.

Tilted wheel? No - therefore I am not officially going to have any positive edge. I'll be posting my results after each session in this topic.

Why am I doing this in the dark side section? Because I consider the way I am playing a form of Advantage Play.

Another likely outcome is me waking up tomorrow and deciding that I cannot be bothered.

Stay tuned....  :thumbsup: (Or don't, whateverrrrrr.)
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: VLSroulette on April 27, 2009, 12:54:39 PM
Go get them Shorty, and by all means stick a LONG sting on them  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: xman1970 on April 27, 2009, 01:05:10 PM
Nice1 Shorty  :thumbsup:

Great to see somebody posting some results from playing an original way  :o


i wish you well...... 8)
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on April 28, 2009, 12:23:22 AM
I should have mention that it will not be for real money, just for fun and my own satisfaction. :)

Anyway, here are results from session one that I just completed.

After 36 spins I finished with a grand total of +169 units. This session was pretty much amazing, so don't expect results like this all the time. I am hoping to be between 1 and 5 or so units ahead after the 36 spin cycle, although each time I have tested this I have made a lot more.

I was going to have a running edge percentage going, but after this tiny amount of placed bets and this session it would be totally, totally inaccurate.

Oh well let's do it anyway.   ;)

Edge: 456.3% (Hey I was hoping for anything better than -2.7)

I will probably get session two done tonight some time.

Session 1: +169
Total: +169.

BBL
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: xman1970 on April 28, 2009, 12:40:06 AM
Quote from: Shorty on April 28, 2009, 12:23:22 AM
I was going to have a running edge percentage going, but after this tiny amount of placed bets and this session it would be totally, totally inaccurate.

Oh well let's do it anyway.   ;)

Edge: 456.3% (Hey I was hoping for anything better than -2.7)

Not surprised you did that for that session  ;)


Keep on rolling dude..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Marven on April 28, 2009, 12:11:11 PM
Way to go Shorty! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on April 29, 2009, 12:17:25 AM
Okay session two, I was kind of disappointed the way this ended, as I made quite a few wrong decisions.

Session ended at +53 at spin 36.

Edge: 299.7% (I guess that's still okay, pretty shitty after the first session though :P)

Session 1: +169
Session 2: +53
Total: +222.
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: berlinerbruce on April 29, 2009, 09:12:07 AM
Hi Shorty ;)

with you all the way mate, go get em ;)

Hey don't forget the golden rule

its what we don't lose that counts

great results mate,, keep up the good work :thumbsup:

are you going to share with the dark side your method of play  ::) ::)

ok mate, by for now, and keep us lads posted

best of British to ya and good luck

Regards Bruce
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on April 29, 2009, 10:33:10 AM
Yup I will tell dark side members how to play my way. :) I have to be up at 6 tomorrow so it'll be 24 hours before my 3rd session.
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on April 30, 2009, 12:33:28 PM
This was a serious struggle session. My internet was screwed as well so I got booted a lot and couldn't watch the wheel, had to do it in blackness. I don't want to go into details, but I did poorly and should have had a much better session.

Ended up at -14 after 36 spins, where I was at +55 after 5 spins.

Edge: 187.2% (Rapidly dropping haha)

Session 1: +169
Session 2: +53
Session 3: -14
Total: +208.
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on May 01, 2009, 11:06:37 PM
Session 4. This is what the system players would call the session from hell I assume. The expected hit rate for one part of my strategy in 36 spins is 12. It hit 7 times lol. Equivalent of betting on an EC and it only appearing 10/11 times in 36 spins. But, what I like about my way of playing, you can get sessions like this and still come in on top.

Ended up at +9 after 36 spins.

Edge: 146.5% (I'm hoping it will drop to about 10 and stay there.)

Session 1: +169
Session 2: +53
Session 3: -14
Session 4: +9
Total: +217.

I also took this to the casino last night and ended up at +60 after around 20 spins. Then was approached from casino staff saying I wasn't walking straight after I had been sitting down for the past 45 minutes. So, I left.
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: See_Jerek on May 03, 2009, 03:58:35 PM
Way to go shorty!
Any news of hamsup?
Have been doing some wheel tracking recently and those drop zone charts,boring affair and lots of time and effort.
Well,Chief Herb has been giving so instructions,it cannot be ignored
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Kingpin on May 03, 2009, 07:28:09 PM
Sounds good Shorty.

I'm also very interested in your way of play.
Keep it up.

BR
Kingpin
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Boo_Ray on May 03, 2009, 07:49:37 PM
nice 8)
why dont you use real money.. It would be good for you :D
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on May 04, 2009, 08:06:13 AM
Quote from: See_Jerek on May 03, 2009, 03:58:35 PM
Way to go shorty!
Any news of hamsup?
Have been doing some wheel tracking recently and those drop zone charts,boring affair and lots of time and effort.
Well,Chief Herb has been giving so instructions,it cannot be ignored

Still no sign of Ham. :(

Good stuff with the tracking etc, hope it all works out.
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: See_Jerek on May 04, 2009, 08:07:54 AM
Its hard work though.
Well if it doesnt work then Herb will be out of job
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on May 06, 2009, 01:10:36 AM
Okay session 5, finally had time to sit down and do it. This was still a little bit below average session, with the first section of my strategy hitting 13 times (expected 12), and the second section hitting 6 (expected 9). I ended up at +37 units after the 36 spins.

Edge: 137.2% (I'm hoping it will drop to about 10 and stay there.)

Session 1: +169
Session 2: +53
Session 3: -14
Session 4: +9
Session 5: +37
Total: +254.
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: See_Jerek on May 06, 2009, 05:17:06 AM
way to go! :clapping:
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: Shorty on May 07, 2009, 01:13:01 PM
Session 6: Ended up -17, which is okay in my opinion. Expected hits: 12 - It hit 11, and 9 - It hit 7.

I am happy with the way it ended up, it was quite an unlucky session.

Edge: 106.6% (I'm hoping it will drop to about 10 and stay there.)

Session 1: +169
Session 2: +53
Session 3: -14
Session 4: +9
Session 5: +37
Session 6: -17
Total: +237.
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: xman1970 on May 07, 2009, 08:00:18 PM
Keep on rollin dude..... :good:
Title: Re: Some excitement for Dark Side members?
Post by: berlinerbruce on May 10, 2009, 04:42:17 AM
Keep cool my mate

and keep it up

are you willing to share a few secret tips  for newbies to the darkside  :yes: :nono:

oh and keep walking straight

your mate

Bruce