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Genesis Roulette System

Started by WannaWin, January 29, 2010, 03:41:20 PM

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Genesis System for the Roulette Wheel has been tried and tested over many, many hours of play. It is very easy to implement but for it to work effectively, first and foremost, you must be disciplined. Casino Games are cleverly designed to give the house a small edge over the customer - as low as 2% - but with their massive turnover, a small percentage in their favour will produce huge profits for the Casino. Discipline is required to operate the Genesis System because we do not bet on every spin of the wheel. There are two aspects to the Genesis System, which when combined make this method extremely powerful - one is the period of "hesitation" used - the other is the staking.

which for Peace Of Mind is recommended to be 40 times whatever the minimum stake is that you are going to use.

The system is designed for backing the Even Money shots on the outside of the table, ie. RED + BLACK, ODD + EVEN or HIGH + LOW (1-18 or 19-36).

For the purpose of introducing you to the Genesis System, all play referred to here is on Red + Black.

In most Casinos worldwide, the minimum stake on the Even Money chances is £5 or $5 or the equivalent. Until you are confident with this system you should play minimum stakes, so for you to be able to play in the "comfort zone", ideally you should sit at the table with a Bank of £200. There will be periods when you may find that up to half of your Betting Bank is in use but you will also have sessions when you will be playing with the Casinos' money after the very first bet and won't need to dip into your Bank for the entire session. Choose a table where there are very few other players because the more players, the slower the play.

On a very busy table it can sometimes take 5 minutes or more for a single spin of the wheel because of the time taken up by customers buying chips and for the payouts after each spin. On a very quiet table you can get 30 or 40 spins in an hour. The best time to play is in the afternoon if your chosen casino is open then. There is no defined period of play but for the purposes of explaining the system to you, the results shown are for 100 spin sessions which took around 2 to 3 hours, but of course you can stop play at any time. Most Casinos have indicator boards that display the previous 16 spins, with BLACK to one side and RED on the other. Be extremely wary of these electronic boards - they often go wrong and may indicate that a number has come up 3 or 4 times in succession when in fact it only occurred once. Sometimes the boards will stop displaying one colour or the other - so be warned. Ideally, check with another player at the table that the previous numbers are correct or sit down and record numbers for a while without playing. To commence play, we first wait for either 3 repeating colours or 3 alternating colours - so we wait for RED/RED/RED or BLACK/BLACK/BLACK or RED/BLACK/RED/BLACK or BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED. As soon as one of these sequences occurs which could happen as soon as you sit down or could mean a 20 minute wait, our first betting series commences on the next spin. We bet on whatever the sequence is doing, so if 3 REDS have come up, we bet on RED - if a sequence of BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED has happened, then our first bet is on BLACK because the colours are alternating. The aim is win 1 chip (or if we don't win 1 chip, then to break-even) on each betting series. So our first bet is 1 chip. If this bet wins, we have made our target of 1 chip profit and that betting series is complete. A new series of betting starts on the very next spin, 1 chip again and following whatever the current results are doing - so if the colours are alternating and our last win came on BLACK, then the first bet of this new series is a 1 chip bet on RED. Should this bet lose, the betting series is not yet over because we haven't made at least 1 chip profit or brokeneven, but we do stop betting and wait until the next run of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates occurs. When this happens, we commence betting again on the next spin following whatever the colours are doing and we increase our bet to 2 chips. If this bet wins we make a 2 chip profit less the 1 chip loss from the previous bet to give an overall 1 chip profit, thereby completing another betting series. Had this 2 chip bet lost, the current betting series running total goes to -3 chips. Because we have just had a losing bet due to the colour sequence changing, again we stop betting and wait for another 3 repeats or alternates before placing a 3 chip bet on the next spin. Should this bet win we have recovered the running total of -3 and broken-even on the series, so the betting series stops. We accept that we haven't made a profit on that particular series and start a new one on the very next spin starting again with a 1 chip bet. Should the 3 chip bet lose taking the running total to -6, again stop betting, wait for another 3 repeats or alternates and place a 4 chip bet on the next spin (keep in mind that we NEVER increase the bet by more than 1 chip at a time - don't be tempted to Double-Up and try to recover losses and make a profit in one spin. Yes, many times it will come off, but it only takes one time for it not to and you will be in deep trouble). Once we have gone past the 3 chip bet without making a profit, we accept that we are not going to make a profit on this series and the aim becomes just to get the series to break-even and then to start a new one. If the 4 chip bet wins, the running total for the current betting series goes to -2. After a win, if the bet was 2 chips or more, then usually we reduce the bet by 1 chip for the next spin. However, as the 4 chip bet has won and the current deficit is -2, because we looking to break-even now, the bet for the next spin is 2 chips which provided it wins gives a break-even sequence. If this 2 chip bet had lost, going to -4, a waiting period would occur until 3 repeats or alternates again and then the next bet would be 3 chips (remember we always increase the bet by 1 chip after a loser - NEVER MORE). A 3 chip win would take the series back to -1 so a 1 chip winning bet on the next spin would give the break-even target we are looking for. This explanation of how to work the system may look complicated but it is very simple in practice and by looking at the workings of the 100 spin sessions and the explanations that follow you will soon master it. When you are playing for real, you will need to keep a record of your bets as you go along - the Casinos provide pens and cards for you to do so. Summary of the important points of the Genesis System:

If you are going to play with £5 chips, sit at the table with a minimum betting bank of £200 - 40 times whatever your 1 chip bet is going to be. Wait until a run of 3 repeating colours or 3 alternating colours before betting. Aim to make a 1 chip profit on each betting series or to break-even if the series goes beyond the 3 chip bet without making a profit. First bet is 1 chip, increasing by 1 after each loss, decreasing by 1 or more after each winning bet. Don't move from one table to another whilst in the middle of a betting series - only move once a series has been completed - if you move half way through a series because it is starting to go wrong - Murphy's Law will ensure that a winning run will start the moment you leave the table!

How to Handle the "0" or "00"

American Roulette wheels have a 0 and a 00. European wheels have just a single 0. When a 0 or 00 is spun, obviously it is a losing bet for us if we have been betting on that spin. Also, if we are in a waiting period, it is also a loser and breaks whatever the sequence of colours is doing.

A 0 or 00 stops everything and from the following spin onwards we again wait for 3 repeats or alternates before betting again. So say the sequence goes RED/RED/RED/0/RED, the 0 is a losing bet and we stop betting until 3 repeats or alternates occur again.

A sequence of BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED/0/BLACK/RED/BLACK would mean we were betting on BLACK when the 0 came up as the three previous spins had alternated. The next 3 spins after the 0 alternated BLACK/RED/BLACK.

This is just two alternates - BLACK to RED then RED to BLACK. If the next spin was a RED, then this would give the required 3 alternates and we would resume betting on the next spin. In the USA the 0 and the 00 and in most European countries, the single 0 clears the whole table, apart from any bets on 0 or 00 themselves. On British tables we have a slight advantage in that as well as there being only a single 0, whenever it comes up, any bet on the Even Money Chances is halved - ie. you get back half of your bet. So, if you are playing on a British table and you have had a bet when a 0 comes up, record as a complete losing bet but treat the returned half stake as a bonus. Play can be extremely slow if the table is busy, but in many cases, once you have the experience of working the Genesis System you may find you can sit between two tables that are close together and work 2 tables at once bearing in mind that much of the time you will only be betting on one table while a waiting period is happening on the other. If you do run two tables at once, use a separate betting bank for each and obviously keep a separate set of records for each one. Although the instructions for working the system are to use RED + BLACK, it will work just as effectively using either ODD + EVEN or (1 - 18) + (19 - 36). You could work the system using 3 separate banks at the same table, but to do it you will need plenty of room to get your bets on easily and to be quick and accurate in keeping your records after each spin. Don't attempt this until you have plenty of experience working just one Bank at a time! Don't be disheartened when you have a losing session - It will happen.

You cannot expect to win every time but if you stick to the system rules, over several sessions you will come out on top. If you have been playing with £5 chips successfully and you are thinking of increasing your minimum stake, it is best to do so only after you have had several winning sessions and you are playing with the Casinos' money . Ideally finish each session with a completed betting series. The results for the 100 spin sessions following stop at the 100th spin even if a betting series is still running.

Be disciplined, follow the rules and you will be a winner.

* P/L = Profit or Loss - R/T = Running Total
Las Vegas Casino - Budapest (March 2005)


Profit +1 chip = £25

This session in Budapest took about 2 1/4 hours - the table was fairly quiet - and it was a fairly difficult session with only a 1 chip profit to show at the end of it. It got off to a perfect start because the first 3 spins were repeats on BLACK so play started very early with the first bet on spin no.4 - a 1 chip bet on BLACK. 1st bet wins - 1 chip profit already - betting sequence stops and new sequence commences. Spin no.5 is 1 chip on BLACK - 0 comes up, so sequence is broken and I now had to wait until the next set of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates. It was a long wait of 21 spins before the next bet was placed - about 40 minutes without having a bet! Spins 24,25,26 were 3 REDS so a 2 chip bet was made on RED for spin no.27. This lost - running total for current sequence now -3. The next run of 3 were BLACKS - spins 33 to 35 so the stake was upped to 3 chips on spin no.36 on BLACK. This was a winner giving a return of +3 and making the current betting running total 0 - so this sequence stops having broken even. The staking reverts back to 1 chip for the next spin on BLACK starting a new betting sequence - it was a loser. It wasn't long to wait before the next 3 in a row happened - spins 38 to 40 were all REDS so a 2 chip bet went on RED for spin no.41 - this lost too, running total now -3. Again not long too wait before the next bet - spins 40 to 42 were alternating RED/BLACK/RED so the stake was upped another 1 and a 3 chip bet went on BLACK - this also lost so running total now -6. Six spins later, time to bet again after 3 successive REDS - the bet was upped to 4 chips and went on RED which won taking the running total to -2. As I had gone past the 3 chip bet it was time to just get the current betting sequence to break even without trying to make a profit. So the bet on spin no.51 was a 2 chip as bet on RED - not 3 chip - hoping for a win to complete the current series. Unfortunately, it lost (BLACK came up) so a further deficit of 2 chips deducted from the running total takes it to -4. We never up the bet by more than 1 chip so the next bet was 3 chips on spin no.55 after 3 REDS had appeared. This lost as well - now on -11. Again not long to wait, 3 more REDS followed so a 5 chip bet on RED for spin no.66 - another loss, running total now -16! Still more than half of the starting bank of 40 chips intact so nerves holding together! Spins 66 to 68 were all BLACK so time to bet again on spin no.69, a 6 chip bet on BLACK which won reducing the running total to -10. The stake is reduced by 1 to 5 chips for the next spin, again on BLACK - this lost, so back to -15. A losing bet means time to wait again - not long before a run of 3 REDS and 6 chip bet made on RED on spin no.27 winning 6 chips reducing the running total to -9. Stake 1 chip less on the next bet, so 5 chips on RED which also won and then a 4 chip bet on spin no.77 produced another RED and got the running total down to 0. Betting sequence stops having broken even. Spins 38 to 77 was a very difficult period but once the run of 6 consecutive REDS occurred starting on spin no.72, losses were quickly recovered. Over an hour of play, only to break even! A new betting sequence starts with a losing 1 chip bet followed by a 2 chip loss on spin 87 and a 3 chip recovery on no. 90 - another break even sequence. Next bet lost but the 2 chip win on spin 97 gave a 1 chip profit after an alternating run of RED/BLACK/RED (spins 94 to 96). The new sequence started with a loss as spin 98 did not alternate and 3 successive REDS meant a 2 chip bet on spin 100 which also lost to end the session with a sequence on -3. Not a great way to finish!

Sheraton Hotel-Casino - Sofia, Bulgaria (April 2005)


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Profit +1 chip = £25

This session in Budapest took about 2 1/4 hours - the table was fairly quiet - and it was a fairly difficult session with only a 1 chip profit to show at the end of it. It got off to a perfect start because the first 3 spins were repeats on BLACK so play started very early with the first bet on spin no.4 - a 1 chip bet on BLACK. 1st bet wins - 1 chip profit already - betting sequence stops and new sequence commences. Spin no.5 is 1 chip on BLACK - 0 comes up, so sequence is broken and I now had to wait until the next set of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates. It was a long wait of 21 spins before the next bet was placed - about 40 minutes without having a bet! Spins 24,25,26 were 3 REDS so a 2 chip bet was made on RED for spin no.27. This lost - running total for current sequence now -3. The next run of 3 were BLACKS - spins 33 to 35 so the stake was upped to 3 chips on spin no.36 on BLACK. This was a winner giving a return of +3 and making the current betting running total 0 - so this sequence stops having broken even. The staking reverts back to 1 chip for the next spin on BLACK starting a new betting sequence - it was a loser. It wasn't long to wait before the next 3 in a row happened - spins 38 to 40 were all REDS so a 2 chip bet went on RED for spin no.41 - this lost too, running total now -3. Again not long too wait before the next bet - spins 40 to 42 were alternating RED/BLACK/RED so the stake was upped another 1 and a 3 chip bet went on BLACK - this also lost so running total now -6. Six spins later, time to bet again after 3 successive REDS - the bet was upped to 4 chips and went on RED which won taking the running total to -2. As I had gone past the 3 chip bet it was time to just get the current betting sequence to break even without trying to make a profit. So the bet on spin no.51 was a 2 chip as bet on RED - not 3 chip - hoping for a win to complete the current series. Unfortunately, it lost (BLACK came up) so a further deficit of 2 chips deducted from the running total takes it to -4. We never up the bet by more than 1 chip so the next bet was 3 chips on spin no.55 after 3 REDS had appeared. This lost as well - now on -11. Again not long to wait, 3 more REDS followed so a 5 chip bet on RED for spin no.66 - another loss, running total now -16! Still more than half of the starting bank of 40 chips intact so nerves holding together! Spins 66 to 68 were all BLACK so time to bet again on spin no.69, a 6 chip bet on BLACK which won reducing the running total to -10. The stake is reduced by 1 to 5 chips for the next spin, again on BLACK - this lost, so back to -15. A losing bet means time to wait again - not long before a run of 3 REDS and 6 chip bet made on RED on spin no.27 winning 6 chips reducing the running total to -9. Stake 1 chip less on the next bet, so 5 chips on RED which also won and then a 4 chip bet on spin no.77 produced another RED and got the running total down to 0. Betting sequence stops having broken even. Spins 38 to 77 was a very difficult period but once the run of 6 consecutive REDS occurred starting on spin no.72, losses were quickly recovered. Over an hour of play, only to break even! A new betting sequence starts with a losing 1 chip bet followed by a 2 chip loss on spin 87 and a 3 chip recovery on no. 90 - another break even sequence. Next bet lost but the 2 chip win on spin 97 gave a 1 chip profit after an alternating run of RED/BLACK/RED (spins 94 to 96). The new sequence started with a loss as spin 98 did not alternate and 3 successive REDS meant a 2 chip bet on spin 100 which also lost to end the session with a sequence on -3. Not a great way to finish!

Sheraton Hotel-Casino - Sofia, Bulgaria (April 2005)

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Profit +22 chip = £450

This session in Bulgaria was a far more pleasant and profitable one than the one in Budapest. The croupiers were mainly stunning Russian girls (which added to the enjoyment) and they were extremely fast at paying out and keeping the wheel going - the session only took about 1 3/4 hours! The croupiers in Bournemouth could learn from these girls. Didn't have to wait very long before the first bet of the session because 3 BLACKS came up in succession from spin no.5 so a 1 chip bet went on BLACK on spin no.8 which won giving a 1 chip profit. Betting continued on the next spin as the previous bet was a winner, but it is a new series so the stake is 1 chip - this lost, so a waiting period happened which went on to the 28th spin calling for a 2 chip bet after 3 repeating REDS - the 2 chip bet on RED won to give a running total on this new series of +1 - a profit, so the series stops with a 1 chip profit.

Another new series starts on the next spin, this lost but was recovered and a profit made on a winning BLACK on spin no.32 - another 1 chip profit. Again, the new series started with a loss and again it was recovered on the next bet on spin no.42 giving another 1 chip profit. Two more repeating BLACKS on spins 43 and 44 donated a further 2 chips to the pile. Lost on spin 45 and the colours began alternating with a BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED, so a 2 chip play went on BLACK for spin no.48 - it lost because a 0 came up to move the running total for the series to -3. A run of 3 BLACKS followed immediately so the next bet was 3 chips on BLACK, spin no.52, this won recovering the deficit of 3 and giving a breakeven series. A 1 chip profit was made on the very next spin and a loss on the following one. Spin no.59 lost another 2, but all 3 were recovered on no.66. A very welcome run of another 5 BLACKS donated 5 more chips (9 BLACKS in a row).

The bet on spin no.72 lost but was turned in to a 1 chip profit on the next bet 11 spins later and a useful run of REDS donated 4 more chips. The bet on spin no.88 lost, but again after 3 alternating colours the alternating sequence continued and the recovery and profit came on spin no.91 with 4 more wins immediately after, before the colours went back to repeats. Spin no.98 produced another 1 chip profit but the following bet and last bet of the session was a loser. But what a session! A 22 chip profit = £450 using £25 chips.I never once had to go above a 3 chip bet and the last 1/3rd of the session produced 15 chips profit! A total of 36 bets were made so there wasn't a great deal of waiting and of the 36 bets, 25 were winners.

Stakis Casino - Bournemouth (UK), September 2005

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Profit +19,5 chip = £487,50

A very satisfactory session with a nice profit though the casino was very busy and play was slow - took over 3 hours for 100 spins.

Still I only had to place a 3 chip bet 3 times throughout the whole session, and they all won.

Kingspin


manaman

Quote from: Kingspin link=topic=14234. msg94241#msg94241 date=1264791036
Ths looks good.   :thumbsup:

Yeah you might be right but I had trouble reading it because of the lack of spaces between the massive blocks of writing. .  don't mean to moan wannawin but could you go over it and put some more paragraphs in mate? 

many thanks

betatester

Congratulations @WannaWin.
This is one of the safest systems that I've seen published in many many months.
1.- You can combine in a quiet way in all the 3 Ev.Ch.
Playing each one separately.
2. - You can play the 3> strike (1-1-1 and go) or another figure in your mind. [0-1-0]-1-0-1... [0-0-1-1-0-0]-1-1-0-0...
Stand with one.
3. - You can choose one figure for each day too. Distributed a few. The more regulars.
4. - You can use the Chateaux's way to keep the spins registered.
Note the "Particular Signature" in the header of each page (spin number), and in the formulas, of course.
Think in a 2 dimension 100x100 table.
100 days x 100 spins each day.
The 4th day sure you have a bet to place in the 12, or 18, or 23, or 45, or 67, or 79, or 82, or 92th spins...
5. - Keep the spins numbered. Register them.
6. - Go home.
7. - Open a page for each one
8. - Print the next prediction. One for each of the 100 spins if so...
:)
Know the game before go to the B&M casino.
Then.... When you come again...
9. - Play or not the first, play or not the second... and so on...
Play a know quantity withouth making the calculations there.
10. - Know the amount of the bet before you go.
11. - Do it 100 times.
12. - Register them.
13. - Go home.
14. - Keep the books maintained.
15. - Sleep.
16. - Have a live.
17. - Go another day again for 100 spins.
18. - Win. Eventually register the lost spins. The winners too.
19. - Go home.
21. - Keep the books.
22. - 100 days x 100 spins
24. - Have a life.
25. - Win.

Cheers.
Betatester.

manaman

Quote from: betatester link=topic=14234. msg94251#msg94251 date=1264807214
Congratulations @WannaWin.
This is one of the safest systems that I've seen published in many many months.
1. - You can combine in a quiet way in all the 3 Ev. Ch.
Playing each one separately.
2.  - You can play the 3> strike (1-1-1 and go) or another figure in your mind.  [0-1-0]-1-0-1. . .  [0-0-1-1-0-0]-1-1-0-0. . .
Stand with one.
3.  - You can choose one figure for each day too.  Distributed a few.  The more regulars.
4.  - You can use the Chateaux's way to keep the spins registered.
Note the "Particular Signature" in the header of each page (spin number), and in the formulas, of course.
Think in a 2 dimension 100x100 table.
100 days x 100 spins each day.
The 4th day sure you have a bet to place in the 12, or 18, or 23, or 45, or 67, or 79, or 82, or 92th spins. . .
5.  - Keep the spins numbered.  Register them.
6.  - Go home.
7.  - Open a page for each one
8.  - Print the next prediction.  One for each of the 100 spins if so. . .
:)
Know the game before go to the B&M casino.
Then. . . .  When you come again. . .
9.  - Play or not the first, play or not the second. . .  and so on. . .
Play a know quantity withouth making the calculations there.
10.  - Know the amount of the bet before you go.
11.  - Do it 100 times.
12.  - Register them.
13.  - Go home.
14.  - Keep the books maintained.
15.  - Sleep.
16.  - Have a live.
17.  - Go another day again for 100 spins.
18.  - Win.  Eventually register the lost spins.  The winners too.
19.  - Go home.
21.  - Keep the books.
22.  - 100 days x 100 spins
24.  - Have a life.
25.  - Win.

Cheers.
Betatester.

26. - WTF????

WannaWin

Sorry but I will not provide comments. After reading carefully the situation of the forum I have decided not to support it more.

Out of respect for you I will not delete my posts, but I retract further support here with my posts.

WannaWin

betatester

Hello @WannaWin.
If you do so I'll respect your decission and I'll not post anymore in that thread.
I'm guessing that it's not because my post that you take your decission.
In fact I didn't publish a single post here for months. But, when I read yours I've tell to myself: hey that's the way: congratulations.

If you read attentively the model you can see that it fits your way has a handmade suit.
In 1 dimension way (yours), [withouth the 100 simulated players that plays one spin each], you do have also times withouth placing a bet, just waiting your trigger.
In this 2 dimensional model is the same.
There shall be spins without prediction for them.
So you just don't play.
You noted the number spun. And play the next spin (simulated player) prediction noted in your 100 pages pad.
It's not so difficult to understand.
You just must wait 3 days, collecting the spins and sort them in the way explained above.
As you do your calculations at home, you can extend the play to the other 3 chances.

But to test and prove that it's quite difficult.
You must prepare 100 days real roulette spins from a single table.
Sort them in columns of different length. The numbers of spins in that day.
Then, randomly, choose a run of 100 followed spins. One day beggining in spin #3, another say beggining in spin #25, and from there, select 100.
Do it 100 times. Build the table.
Copy and TRANSPOSE Columns >>> Rows.
Submit each new column to the system.
Each new column means all the 1rst spins, all the 2nns spins... all the 13ths spins...

Understand... @manaman or you're too young, or too lazy.
Prove thinking for yourself for a while instead of:  WTF !!!

I will start to build the model this week end just when I select: Post
You can do it too.

All the best for you @Wanna

Cheers.
Betatester.

bombus

Quote from: WannaWin on January 29, 2010, 03:41:20 PM
Genesis System for the Roulette Wheel has been tried and tested over many, many hours of play. It is very easy to implement but for it to work effectively, first and foremost, you must be disciplined. Casino Games are cleverly designed to give the house a small edge over the customer - as low as 2% - but with their massive turnover, a small percentage in their favour will produce huge profits for the Casino. Discipline is required to operate the Genesis System because we do not bet on every spin of the wheel. There are two aspects to the Genesis System, which when combined make this method extremely powerful - one is the period of "hesitation" used - the other is the staking.

which for Peace Of Mind is recommended to be 40 times whatever the minimum stake is that you are going to use.

The system is designed for backing the Even Money shots on the outside of the table, ie. RED + BLACK, ODD + EVEN or HIGH + LOW (1-18 or 19-36).

For the purpose of introducing you to the Genesis System, all play referred to here is on Red + Black.

In most Casinos worldwide, the minimum stake on the Even Money chances is £5 or $5 or the equivalent. Until you are confident with this system you should play minimum stakes, so for you to be able to play in the "comfort zone", ideally you should sit at the table with a Bank of £200. There will be periods when you may find that up to half of your Betting Bank is in use but you will also have sessions when you will be playing with the Casinos' money after the very first bet and won't need to dip into your Bank for the entire session. Choose a table where there are very few other players because the more players, the slower the play.

On a very busy table it can sometimes take 5 minutes or more for a single spin of the wheel because of the time taken up by customers buying chips and for the payouts after each spin. On a very quiet table you can get 30 or 40 spins in an hour. The best time to play is in the afternoon if your chosen casino is open then. There is no defined period of play but for the purposes of explaining the system to you, the results shown are for 100 spin sessions which took around 2 to 3 hours, but of course you can stop play at any time. Most Casinos have indicator boards that display the previous 16 spins, with BLACK to one side and RED on the other. Be extremely wary of these electronic boards - they often go wrong and may indicate that a number has come up 3 or 4 times in succession when in fact it only occurred once. Sometimes the boards will stop displaying one colour or the other - so be warned. Ideally, check with another player at the table that the previous numbers are correct or sit down and record numbers for a while without playing. To commence play, we first wait for either 3 repeating colours or 3 alternating colours - so we wait for RED/RED/RED or BLACK/BLACK/BLACK or RED/BLACK/RED/BLACK or BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED. As soon as one of these sequences occurs which could happen as soon as you sit down or could mean a 20 minute wait, our first betting series commences on the next spin. We bet on whatever the sequence is doing, so if 3 REDS have come up, we bet on RED - if a sequence of BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED has happened, then our first bet is on BLACK because the colours are alternating. The aim is win 1 chip (or if we don't win 1 chip, then to break-even) on each betting series. So our first bet is 1 chip. If this bet wins, we have made our target of 1 chip profit and that betting series is complete. A new series of betting starts on the very next spin, 1 chip again and following whatever the current results are doing - so if the colours are alternating and our last win came on BLACK, then the first bet of this new series is a 1 chip bet on RED. Should this bet lose, the betting series is not yet over because we haven't made at least 1 chip profit or brokeneven, but we do stop betting and wait until the next run of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates occurs. When this happens, we commence betting again on the next spin following whatever the colours are doing and we increase our bet to 2 chips. If this bet wins we make a 2 chip profit less the 1 chip loss from the previous bet to give an overall 1 chip profit, thereby completing another betting series. Had this 2 chip bet lost, the current betting series running total goes to -3 chips. Because we have just had a losing bet due to the colour sequence changing, again we stop betting and wait for another 3 repeats or alternates before placing a 3 chip bet on the next spin. Should this bet win we have recovered the running total of -3 and broken-even on the series, so the betting series stops. We accept that we haven't made a profit on that particular series and start a new one on the very next spin starting again with a 1 chip bet. Should the 3 chip bet lose taking the running total to -6, again stop betting, wait for another 3 repeats or alternates and place a 4 chip bet on the next spin (keep in mind that we NEVER increase the bet by more than 1 chip at a time - don't be tempted to Double-Up and try to recover losses and make a profit in one spin. Yes, many times it will come off, but it only takes one time for it not to and you will be in deep trouble). Once we have gone past the 3 chip bet without making a profit, we accept that we are not going to make a profit on this series and the aim becomes just to get the series to break-even and then to start a new one. If the 4 chip bet wins, the running total for the current betting series goes to -2. After a win, if the bet was 2 chips or more, then usually we reduce the bet by 1 chip for the next spin. However, as the 4 chip bet has won and the current deficit is -2, because we looking to break-even now, the bet for the next spin is 2 chips which provided it wins gives a break-even sequence. If this 2 chip bet had lost, going to -4, a waiting period would occur until 3 repeats or alternates again and then the next bet would be 3 chips (remember we always increase the bet by 1 chip after a loser - NEVER MORE). A 3 chip win would take the series back to -1 so a 1 chip winning bet on the next spin would give the break-even target we are looking for. This explanation of how to work the system may look complicated but it is very simple in practice and by looking at the workings of the 100 spin sessions and the explanations that follow you will soon master it. When you are playing for real, you will need to keep a record of your bets as you go along - the Casinos provide pens and cards for you to do so. Summary of the important points of the Genesis System:

If you are going to play with £5 chips, sit at the table with a minimum betting bank of £200 - 40 times whatever your 1 chip bet is going to be. Wait until a run of 3 repeating colours or 3 alternating colours before betting. Aim to make a 1 chip profit on each betting series or to break-even if the series goes beyond the 3 chip bet without making a profit. First bet is 1 chip, increasing by 1 after each loss, decreasing by 1 or more after each winning bet. Don't move from one table to another whilst in the middle of a betting series - only move once a series has been completed - if you move half way through a series because it is starting to go wrong - Murphy's Law will ensure that a winning run will start the moment you leave the table!

How to Handle the "0" or "00"

American Roulette wheels have a 0 and a 00. European wheels have just a single 0. When a 0 or 00 is spun, obviously it is a losing bet for us if we have been betting on that spin. Also, if we are in a waiting period, it is also a loser and breaks whatever the sequence of colours is doing.

A 0 or 00 stops everything and from the following spin onwards we again wait for 3 repeats or alternates before betting again. So say the sequence goes RED/RED/RED/0/RED, the 0 is a losing bet and we stop betting until 3 repeats or alternates occur again.

A sequence of BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED/0/BLACK/RED/BLACK would mean we were betting on BLACK when the 0 came up as the three previous spins had alternated. The next 3 spins after the 0 alternated BLACK/RED/BLACK.

This is just two alternates - BLACK to RED then RED to BLACK. If the next spin was a RED, then this would give the required 3 alternates and we would resume betting on the next spin. In the USA the 0 and the 00 and in most European countries, the single 0 clears the whole table, apart from any bets on 0 or 00 themselves. On British tables we have a slight advantage in that as well as there being only a single 0, whenever it comes up, any bet on the Even Money Chances is halved - ie. you get back half of your bet. So, if you are playing on a British table and you have had a bet when a 0 comes up, record as a complete losing bet but treat the returned half stake as a bonus. Play can be extremely slow if the table is busy, but in many cases, once you have the experience of working the Genesis System you may find you can sit between two tables that are close together and work 2 tables at once bearing in mind that much of the time you will only be betting on one table while a waiting period is happening on the other. If you do run two tables at once, use a separate betting bank for each and obviously keep a separate set of records for each one. Although the instructions for working the system are to use RED + BLACK, it will work just as effectively using either ODD + EVEN or (1 - 18) + (19 - 36). You could work the system using 3 separate banks at the same table, but to do it you will need plenty of room to get your bets on easily and to be quick and accurate in keeping your records after each spin. Don't attempt this until you have plenty of experience working just one Bank at a time! Don't be disheartened when you have a losing session - It will happen.

You cannot expect to win every time but if you stick to the system rules, over several sessions you will come out on top. If you have been playing with £5 chips successfully and you are thinking of increasing your minimum stake, it is best to do so only after you have had several winning sessions and you are playing with the Casinos' money . Ideally finish each session with a completed betting series. The results for the 100 spin sessions following stop at the 100th spin even if a betting series is still running.

Be disciplined, follow the rules and you will be a winner.

* P/L = Profit or Loss - R/T = Running Total
Las Vegas Casino - Budapest (March 2005)


Profit +1 chip = £25

This session in Budapest took about 2 1/4 hours - the table was fairly quiet - and it was a fairly difficult session with only a 1 chip profit to show at the end of it. It got off to a perfect start because the first 3 spins were repeats on BLACK so play started very early with the first bet on spin no.4 - a 1 chip bet on BLACK. 1st bet wins - 1 chip profit already - betting sequence stops and new sequence commences. Spin no.5 is 1 chip on BLACK - 0 comes up, so sequence is broken and I now had to wait until the next set of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates. It was a long wait of 21 spins before the next bet was placed - about 40 minutes without having a bet! Spins 24,25,26 were 3 REDS so a 2 chip bet was made on RED for spin no.27. This lost - running total for current sequence now -3. The next run of 3 were BLACKS - spins 33 to 35 so the stake was upped to 3 chips on spin no.36 on BLACK. This was a winner giving a return of +3 and making the current betting running total 0 - so this sequence stops having broken even. The staking reverts back to 1 chip for the next spin on BLACK starting a new betting sequence - it was a loser. It wasn't long to wait before the next 3 in a row happened - spins 38 to 40 were all REDS so a 2 chip bet went on RED for spin no.41 - this lost too, running total now -3. Again not long too wait before the next bet - spins 40 to 42 were alternating RED/BLACK/RED so the stake was upped another 1 and a 3 chip bet went on BLACK - this also lost so running total now -6. Six spins later, time to bet again after 3 successive REDS - the bet was upped to 4 chips and went on RED which won taking the running total to -2. As I had gone past the 3 chip bet it was time to just get the current betting sequence to break even without trying to make a profit. So the bet on spin no.51 was a 2 chip as bet on RED - not 3 chip - hoping for a win to complete the current series. Unfortunately, it lost (BLACK came up) so a further deficit of 2 chips deducted from the running total takes it to -4. We never up the bet by more than 1 chip so the next bet was 3 chips on spin no.55 after 3 REDS had appeared. This lost as well - now on -11. Again not long to wait, 3 more REDS followed so a 5 chip bet on RED for spin no.66 - another loss, running total now -16! Still more than half of the starting bank of 40 chips intact so nerves holding together! Spins 66 to 68 were all BLACK so time to bet again on spin no.69, a 6 chip bet on BLACK which won reducing the running total to -10. The stake is reduced by 1 to 5 chips for the next spin, again on BLACK - this lost, so back to -15. A losing bet means time to wait again - not long before a run of 3 REDS and 6 chip bet made on RED on spin no.27 winning 6 chips reducing the running total to -9. Stake 1 chip less on the next bet, so 5 chips on RED which also won and then a 4 chip bet on spin no.77 produced another RED and got the running total down to 0. Betting sequence stops having broken even. Spins 38 to 77 was a very difficult period but once the run of 6 consecutive REDS occurred starting on spin no.72, losses were quickly recovered. Over an hour of play, only to break even! A new betting sequence starts with a losing 1 chip bet followed by a 2 chip loss on spin 87 and a 3 chip recovery on no. 90 - another break even sequence. Next bet lost but the 2 chip win on spin 97 gave a 1 chip profit after an alternating run of RED/BLACK/RED (spins 94 to 96). The new sequence started with a loss as spin 98 did not alternate and 3 successive REDS meant a 2 chip bet on spin 100 which also lost to end the session with a sequence on -3. Not a great way to finish!

Sheraton Hotel-Casino - Sofia, Bulgaria (April 2005)


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Profit +1 chip = £25

This session in Budapest took about 2 1/4 hours - the table was fairly quiet - and it was a fairly difficult session with only a 1 chip profit to show at the end of it. It got off to a perfect start because the first 3 spins were repeats on BLACK so play started very early with the first bet on spin no.4 - a 1 chip bet on BLACK. 1st bet wins - 1 chip profit already - betting sequence stops and new sequence commences. Spin no.5 is 1 chip on BLACK - 0 comes up, so sequence is broken and I now had to wait until the next set of either 3 repeats or 3 alternates. It was a long wait of 21 spins before the next bet was placed - about 40 minutes without having a bet! Spins 24,25,26 were 3 REDS so a 2 chip bet was made on RED for spin no.27. This lost - running total for current sequence now -3. The next run of 3 were BLACKS - spins 33 to 35 so the stake was upped to 3 chips on spin no.36 on BLACK. This was a winner giving a return of +3 and making the current betting running total 0 - so this sequence stops having broken even. The staking reverts back to 1 chip for the next spin on BLACK starting a new betting sequence - it was a loser. It wasn't long to wait before the next 3 in a row happened - spins 38 to 40 were all REDS so a 2 chip bet went on RED for spin no.41 - this lost too, running total now -3. Again not long too wait before the next bet - spins 40 to 42 were alternating RED/BLACK/RED so the stake was upped another 1 and a 3 chip bet went on BLACK - this also lost so running total now -6. Six spins later, time to bet again after 3 successive REDS - the bet was upped to 4 chips and went on RED which won taking the running total to -2. As I had gone past the 3 chip bet it was time to just get the current betting sequence to break even without trying to make a profit. So the bet on spin no.51 was a 2 chip as bet on RED - not 3 chip - hoping for a win to complete the current series. Unfortunately, it lost (BLACK came up) so a further deficit of 2 chips deducted from the running total takes it to -4. We never up the bet by more than 1 chip so the next bet was 3 chips on spin no.55 after 3 REDS had appeared. This lost as well - now on -11. Again not long to wait, 3 more REDS followed so a 5 chip bet on RED for spin no.66 - another loss, running total now -16! Still more than half of the starting bank of 40 chips intact so nerves holding together! Spins 66 to 68 were all BLACK so time to bet again on spin no.69, a 6 chip bet on BLACK which won reducing the running total to -10. The stake is reduced by 1 to 5 chips for the next spin, again on BLACK - this lost, so back to -15. A losing bet means time to wait again - not long before a run of 3 REDS and 6 chip bet made on RED on spin no.27 winning 6 chips reducing the running total to -9. Stake 1 chip less on the next bet, so 5 chips on RED which also won and then a 4 chip bet on spin no.77 produced another RED and got the running total down to 0. Betting sequence stops having broken even. Spins 38 to 77 was a very difficult period but once the run of 6 consecutive REDS occurred starting on spin no.72, losses were quickly recovered. Over an hour of play, only to break even! A new betting sequence starts with a losing 1 chip bet followed by a 2 chip loss on spin 87 and a 3 chip recovery on no. 90 - another break even sequence. Next bet lost but the 2 chip win on spin 97 gave a 1 chip profit after an alternating run of RED/BLACK/RED (spins 94 to 96). The new sequence started with a loss as spin 98 did not alternate and 3 successive REDS meant a 2 chip bet on spin 100 which also lost to end the session with a sequence on -3. Not a great way to finish!

Sheraton Hotel-Casino - Sofia, Bulgaria (April 2005)

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Profit +22 chip = £450

This session in Bulgaria was a far more pleasant and profitable one than the one in Budapest. The croupiers were mainly stunning Russian girls (which added to the enjoyment) and they were extremely fast at paying out and keeping the wheel going - the session only took about 1 3/4 hours! The croupiers in Bournemouth could learn from these girls. Didn't have to wait very long before the first bet of the session because 3 BLACKS came up in succession from spin no.5 so a 1 chip bet went on BLACK on spin no.8 which won giving a 1 chip profit. Betting continued on the next spin as the previous bet was a winner, but it is a new series so the stake is 1 chip - this lost, so a waiting period happened which went on to the 28th spin calling for a 2 chip bet after 3 repeating REDS - the 2 chip bet on RED won to give a running total on this new series of +1 - a profit, so the series stops with a 1 chip profit.

Another new series starts on the next spin, this lost but was recovered and a profit made on a winning BLACK on spin no.32 - another 1 chip profit. Again, the new series started with a loss and again it was recovered on the next bet on spin no.42 giving another 1 chip profit. Two more repeating BLACKS on spins 43 and 44 donated a further 2 chips to the pile. Lost on spin 45 and the colours began alternating with a BLACK/RED/BLACK/RED, so a 2 chip play went on BLACK for spin no.48 - it lost because a 0 came up to move the running total for the series to -3. A run of 3 BLACKS followed immediately so the next bet was 3 chips on BLACK, spin no.52, this won recovering the deficit of 3 and giving a breakeven series. A 1 chip profit was made on the very next spin and a loss on the following one. Spin no.59 lost another 2, but all 3 were recovered on no.66. A very welcome run of another 5 BLACKS donated 5 more chips (9 BLACKS in a row).

The bet on spin no.72 lost but was turned in to a 1 chip profit on the next bet 11 spins later and a useful run of REDS donated 4 more chips. The bet on spin no.88 lost, but again after 3 alternating colours the alternating sequence continued and the recovery and profit came on spin no.91 with 4 more wins immediately after, before the colours went back to repeats. Spin no.98 produced another 1 chip profit but the following bet and last bet of the session was a loser. But what a session! A 22 chip profit = £450 using £25 chips.I never once had to go above a 3 chip bet and the last 1/3rd of the session produced 15 chips profit! A total of 36 bets were made so there wasn't a great deal of waiting and of the 36 bets, 25 were winners.

Stakis Casino - Bournemouth (UK), September 2005

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Profit +19,5 chip = £487,50

A very satisfactory session with a nice profit though the casino was very busy and play was slow - took over 3 hours for 100 spins.

Still I only had to place a 3 chip bet 3 times throughout the whole session, and they all won.




Very interesting.

Number Six

The author has cherry-picked his sessions to prove when the system works and supposedly when it doesn't (yet you still win)...the problem being that he has left out the session where he went 100+ spins without a series of longer than three and lost everything he had (and probably more). I have seen such a sequence only in the past few days. This translates to 33 consecutive losses, yes a "freak" occurrence, but it will happen, it's only a matter of when. Also, on a series of three, half the time it will stay a series of three (you lose) half the time it will be longer than three (you win), but you'll never win enough for the progression to overcome the house edge. What this all means is that this bet is no different from just betting the opposite to the last decision on every spin. In fact, no trigger bet or event betting is any different from just betting the same colour time and again or even just betting randomly.

betatester

Hello forum.
The author plays a follow the last kind of game.
So if he finds r-r-r he will predicted r for the next one and so. Same as Last.
Also if he finds r.b.r he will predict b for the next one and so. Oposite as Last.
I've did the test...

Greater than -2,72%

If we mix the 3 EC. the things go worse.
So sorry about my yesterday optimistic point of view.

All the best.
Betatester.

topcat888

Hey Number Six,

Every post I have every read on the forum you have popped up saying that wont work  :nono: ~ You simply damn everyones efforts with some intelligent sounding words and don't come up with anything better yourself, not very helpful or useful, wouldn't you agree..?

Ok, so now I'm intrigued, how exactly do you play, what system/strategy do you employ or do you not play roulette at all, just prefering to comment on it instead..?

You'll probably flame me now, expected, but I am genuinely interested as it must be very, very good..?

Regards
TC

@ Wannawin, that's a shame, reconsider.?

Kingspin

I think number 6 is taking over from where herb left off ;D

Number 6 could be right what he says though.

Number Six

Event betting, trigger betting, rule-based betting, automatic betting, mechanical betting, systematic betting...all are a fallacy. Why should anyone pretend otherwise?

Quote from: topcat888

:nono:


Why would you wag your finger like that? I CAN PROVE NO SYSTEM WORKS. YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT THEY DO. Who out of us is living in denial do you think?

topcat888

"denial "... brilliant, yet again excellent choice of descriptive noun..! :thumbsup:

Number six, you are probably right, I'm not going to disagree with you, mechanical systems of all types will fail eventually, agreed.

So, back to the original question what do you use to make real money at roulette, please share with us ~ I am genuinely interested or is it a secret  ;)..?

TC

manaman

Quote from: Number Six link=topic=14234.   msg94372#msg94372 date=1264885637
I CAN PROVE NO SYSTEM WORKS.   

Six, I like you and what you stand for (anti scammers) though I believe that I was born using the right side of my brain more than my left,I beleive yourself and most of the users on this forum use the left side of the brain much more than the right.   .    what this means is you tend to believe that no system works because of the house edge.   .    because you have mathmatical proof ect.    And yes I believe that it's true that a random game of roulette with any system will eventually lose to the house edge because of the killer set of numbers that are possible and must come.   

BUT, what about luck/intuition? and very very deep things like quantum physics? what if luck can be changed in your favour? what if you could so develop your intuiton that you knew, when to play ,and when not to? what if the people into quantum physics are right, that the universe can split in to multi universes, and 'our' consciousness becomes awake in its choosing universe, depending on what the mind is tuned into? What would this do to the tiny house edge then? I know I know.   .    this is way to right brained for your left brain thinking to even imagine how this could ever be possible

So, if your belief is that roulette cannot be beat with any system, then my belief is that if you tried to play a system you would no doubt lose with something like 33 consecutive losses soon as you sat at the table.   .    and then you would say SEE I'M RIGHT NO SYSTEM CAN WIN!!!

What if somone was really confident in systems (even though some days they lose a little) and had so saturated their mind with positive expectation,highly developed their intuition, pictured themselfs winning in the mind, and many deeper things that I wont go into.   .    what if this person won much more than they lost because they 'felt'  it the right time to play?  what if they played the very same system you did but as so called luck would have it they won 33 consecutive win due to 33 blacks in a row! Talk about right place at the right time!!

You could have two people that live in the same town,have the same type of business,and one have bad streaks of luck all the time, like no customers, or when somones does buy from them the awkward buyer complains ect.   .   and so he struggles to make a living each year.    Yet the other person has good streaks of luck attracting customers with big wallets, and that customer tells all his friends what a good place it is to buy from, and this person then makes a mint each year.    Where is the difference?   in the mind! The person who seems lucky is set up for positive outcomes,and the person who expects bad things is negative and down on life.   

I guess what I'm trying to say can be summed up in one quote that Henry Ford was ment to of said.   .   .   .   

"Whether you think you can or whether you think you can't, you're right.   "

manaman

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