A single warm random number system.

[blu]

It was easily a cpl of grand on the day. l have a feeling your mates were right. Don't like your chances recovering.

[blu]

Might have to head to the casino - its getting damn hot downunder - 40 today. Need some cool relief - now l just need to control myself from betting !

[WizardOfAus]

Good luck blu if you play - if you have a spar $1K on you try my mates progression - all you need is a multi-sportsbet card from the TAB and you have the perfect recording device to record the numbers with exactly 10 rows!

With $1K as a bankroll you still get 110 betting progressions - so it you wait for 8 X's that's still 190 spins to lose.  The highest I've seen in testing and actual play has been 159.

[blu]

Thanks wiz, but doesn't what Pedro was saying make you nervous - some numbers don't appear all day ??

Whereabouts are you ? - me Coburg some 20 min from Crown.

[WizardOfAus]

Blu - if you read the original system - it's not playing one number - it's playing every 10th number that shows up - it's complicated but in live action it's quite straight forward.

I would never try to play a sleeper - but if I was willing to wait 150 and walk and record all five tables to quicken up the process then it's doable - I'd rather stick to the original system.  Sleepers can sleep for a long time - I don't think any number could sleep much longer than 500 spins - but there's still a chance of that happening - over a million spin test - they've observed it before.

Like I said - I've only seen one sleep on these ones for 308 spins - and that already scares me - but that is only once out of 75 views or so.

[blu]

Sorry Wiz l misinterpreted. So you would start betting on progression on all 8 numbers that haven't showed for 80 spins ? So as each no. hits you would stop progression for that but continue with the others and if there is a new number that qualifies start progression with this ? When do you stop ?

[WizardOfAus]

No - you're only betting one number at a time for each row - unless another row hits 80 losing streak - 8 X's then you will only ever be betting one row.

Here's a further explanation:


Say the first 30 numbers are ( 26 being the first number recorded and 19 being the 11th, 21st being number 27):

26 19X 27X
11 12X 22X
5 2 31X
8 33X 33
10 34X 6X
36 29X 4X
5 9X 8X
20 8X 13
3 7X 12X
18 16X 24X

As you can see the 10 numbers after 26 does not have 26 shown up again so you put a X next to the 11th number to indicate that it's been 10 numbers in that row that there's been no repeat of the first base number of 26. It now changes base number to the 11th number which is number 19. As you can see the next ten spins after 19 does not show 19 again so the 21st number gets an X. The new base number for that row is now 27. And so on and so on. There are now 2 X's in that first row in succession - you fon't start using the 150 betting progression until the trigger happens - which is 8 X's -which means 8 base numbers did not hit within their corresponding following 10 spins.

You do the above for each row - hence you are tracking every number that shows up and putting an X if that number doesn't show up again within the next 10 numbers.

Note: If a row does break/win - example row 3 - the thirs number - number 5 does actually hit again within it's next 10 spins and hence doesn't get a corresponding X. Once it hits you stop tracking that row until the next base number which is the 13th which is number 2 - you start the count all over again.


Hope this is clear.

[blu]

So what is your bets ?

[WizardOfAus]

Here's the betting progression again:

A 150 spin progression model for a single number straight up bet that earns a minimum of $1 a spin. 

The sequence below shows:
Single bet/total acc bets /return /profit. 

1/1/36/35
1/2/36/34
1/3/36/33
1/4/36/32
1/5/36/31
1/6/36/30
1/7/36/29
1/8/36/28
1/9/36/27
1/10/36/26. . . . . . . . . . . . . 10
1/11/36/25
1/12/36/24
1/13/36/23
1/14/36/22
1/15/36/21. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 15
1/16/36/20
1/17/36/19
1/18/36/18
2/20/72/52
2/22/72/50. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20
2/24/72/48
2/26/72/46
2/28/72/44
2/30/72/42
2/32/72/40. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25
2/34/72/38
2/36/72/36
2/38/72/34
2/40/72/32
2/42/72/30
3/45/108/63. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
3/48/108/60
3/51/108/57
3/54/108/54
3/57/108/51. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 35
3/60/108/48
3/63/108/45
3/66/108/42
3/69/108/39. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39
4/73/144/71
4/77/144/67
4/81/144/63
4/85/144/59
4/89/144/55
4/93/144/51. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45
4/97/144/47
5/102/180/78. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 47
5/107/180/73
5/112/180/68
5/117/180/63
5/122/180/58
5/127/180/53. . . . . . . . . . 52
6/133/216/83
6/139/216/77
6/145/216/71
6/151/216/65
6/157/216/59. . . . . . . . . . . . 57
7/164/252/88
7/171/252/81
7/178/252/74
7/185/252/67. . . . . . . . . . . . . 61
8/193/288/95
8/201/288/87
8/209/288/79
8/217/288/71. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 65
9/226/324/98
9/235/324/89
9/244/324/80
9/253/324/71. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
10/263/360/97
10/273/360/87
10/283/360/77. . . . . . . . . . . . 72
11/294/396/102
11/305/396/91
11/316/396/80. . . . . . . . . . . . 75
12/328/432/104
12/340/432/92
12/352/432/80
13/365/468/103
13/378/468/90. . . . . . . . . . . 80
14/392/504/112
14/406/504/98
14/420/504/84
15/435/540/105
15/450/540/90. . . . . . . . . . . . 85
16/466/576/110
16/482/576/94
17/499/612/113
17/516/612/96
18/534/648/114. . . . . . . . . . 90
18/552/648/96
19/571/684/113
19/590/684/94
20/610/720/110
21/631/756/125. . . . . . . . . . 95
21/652/756/104
22/674/792/118
23/697/828/131
23/720/828/108
24/744/864/120. . . . . . . . . . . 100
25/769/900/131
26/795/936/141
26/821/936/115
27/848/972/124
28/876/1008/132. . . . . . . . . . . . 105
29/905/1044/139
30/935/1080/145
31/966/1116/150
31/997/1116/119
32/1029/1152/123. . . . . . . . . 110
33/1062/1188/126
34/1096/1224/128
35/1131/1260/129
36/1167/1296/129
37/1204/1332/128. . . . . . . . . 115
38/1242/1368/126
40/1284/1440/156
41/1325/1476/161
42/1367/1512/145
43/1410/1548/138. . . . . . . . . . 120
45/1455/1620/165
46/1501/1656/155
47/1548/1692/144
49/1597/1764/167
50/1647/1800/153. . . . . . . . . . . 125
52/1699/1872/173
53/1752/1908/156
55/1807/1980/173
56/1863/2016/153
57/1899/2052/153. . . . . . . . . . . 130
58/1957/2088/131
60/2017/2160/143
62/2079/2232/153
63/2142/2268/126
65/2207/2340/133. . . . . . . . . . . 135
67/2274/2412/138
69/2343/2484/137
71/2414/2556/142
73/2487/2628/141
75/2552/2700/148. . . . . . . . . . . 140
77/2629/2772/143
79/2708/2844/136
82/2790/2952/162
84/2874/3024/152
87/2961/3132/171. . . . . . . . . 145
89/3050/3204/154
92/3142/3312/170
94/3234/3384/150
97/3331/3492/161
100/3431/3600/169. . . . . . . . . . 150

So after you find 8 X's in a row for a particular row you start betting that row. So ay the 91st number flagged 8 X's in a row - you would bet $1 on each bet for the next 10 spins on that 91st number - then after 10 numbers still didn't match - you would change your number that you're betting on to the 101st number - you continue your progression - so bets 11 to 18 would still be $1 - then your 19th and 20th bets on number 101st would be $2 as per the progression - if by the time 111th comes up and the last 10 numbers have still not matched up with the base number (the 101st number) you then change the base number again to the 111th number - in writing this - it's quite confusing but in live play it's quite straight forward.

I'll show you one day if you don't really get it - we could catch-up at crown - not until I've tested it a bit more though.

[WizardOfAus]

I guess you could apply it to the Rapid Roulette tables but the only problem is time.  They are about a spin a minute so approx.  80% slower.  Instead of a $10" hourly it would be closer to $60. 

I'd get bored at that rate.

I already get bored ATM. 

For your $1 bets you would have to use two $2 bets on red & black to cover your table minimum. 

As long as they have these Vegas Star ones I'll keep following it with my friend. 

I reckon if you had a big bankroll you could clean up Trackside.  But you need a big one.  You shouldn't chase the big number horses though.  You could do a progression bet on number 1.  At $4 odds, a bankroll of $5k gives you a 40 race progression with an hourly of $30 an hour - $2 minimum guarantee per race bet using the below. 

If you have $10k then your hourly of $60 an hour would easily be seen if you double the below progression amounts. 

Number will pretty much always show up within 20 races, within 40 races it should be a sure thing.  I've seen number 1 win 12 times within 20 races once.  You can get all the results and do an analysis I guess - they have a website for it.  But it kinda takes a while to collect the results.  We should probably get a definitive answer from the VCGR whether it is random or dependent on player bets. 

$5 3 to 1 Progression

5/5/45/40
5/10/45/35
5/15/45/30
5/20/45/25
5/25/45/20. . . . . . . 5
10/35/90/55
10/45/90/45
10/55/90/35
10/65/90/25
10/75/90/15. . . . . 10
15/90/135/45
15/105/135/30
20/125/180/55
20/145/180/35
25/170/225/55. . . . . 15
25/195/225/30
30/225/270/45
35/260/315/55
40/300/360/60
45/345/405/60. . . . . . 20
50/395/450/55
55/450/495/45
65/515/585/70
75/590/675/85
85/675/765/90. . . . . 25
95/770/855/85
105/875/945/70
120/995/1080/85
135/1130/1215/85
150/1280/1350/70. . . . . 30
170/1450/1530/80
190/1640/1710/70
215/1855/1935/80
240/2095/2160/65
270/2365/2430/65. . . . . 35
305/2670/2745/75
345/3015/3105/90
390/3405/3510/105
440/3845/3960/115
500/5345/4500/155. . . . . . 40

Sorry - the above progression is not for a 3 to 1 scenario - please ignore.

[Mr J]

@WizardOfAus >> Will this help with your quest? .....nolinks://vlsroulette.com/grabb/

Ken

[WizardOfAus]

Thanks Ken - very interesting site but not sure if it helps - it just gives you a tally of hot and cold numbers - I'll dig further from a set of records.

[blu]

Ok now l see you are only betting one number and that the base number keeps changing every ten spins.
So what relevance is there if we have to wait 10 x's ? l mean it doesn't mean that the current base number hasn't come out for 80 spins it just means it hasn't hit hit in the last ten. Is it just a coincidence that this system comes up with regular hits even though the base number keeps changing every ten ? Hmmmm interesting find and coincidence if thats the case.

Blu

[blu]

Wiz, had a go at your method tonite. Wasn't doing too bad there for a while but then had a long roow that didn't hit the current base no. for 180 spins. l walked away at that point $275 overall down.

Question, what do you do when you are betting progression and the new base no. for that same row has come up in the last 10 spins ? Does this mean you stop progression and therefore lose your doh as the latest base no has no x beside it ??

Blu

[blu]

Wiz,oops looks like l read your instructions incorrectly. l was looking at the last 10 instead of the next 10 if the base number hit. So l had another look at my results with these findings...........

Games played 430 games approx 4 hours

Following the trigger hits were made after waiting the following spins.....

110
105
115
155
130
184
140
160
and there was one at 160 which was unfinished as l went home.

Blu

[blu]

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