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Playing The John Solitude Way....

Started by xman1970, November 18, 2007, 12:07:19 AM

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xman1970

Hi Guys,

             This is a system I've tested and it's ALL down to John Solitude... [smiley=dankk2.gif]


Check out his website at nolinks.john-solitude.be


Now the PDF file I downloaded there is currently being updated, the file you want is the Wheel Frequency Analysis one.

I would make it available here but it's copyrighted & I just would not do that to the guy....


Ok, you will need a big bankroll, some discipline, and plenty of time....

To keep it simple (that way I can understand it [smiley=smiley.gif]) we bet on sections of the wheel that HAVEN'T hit for a long (but not too long) time.

ALL THE EXAMPLE DATA IS ON A SINGLE ZERO WHEEL

We are looking to bet a section of 12 / 13 numbers that haven't hit for 12 / 11 spins...

I track this by using the excellent RouletteXtreme software

Ok so the following 11 numbers show....


5
1
11
18
8
7
16
36
26
5
31

After 11 missed spins we now have a section of 13 numbers that have not hit so we bet on it.

the numbers in this section are 0/2/4/6/13/15/17/19/21/25/27/32/34

and the 8 step progression I use is as follows :-

Spin      #s      Units      If Loss      If Win
1      13      1      (13)      23
2      13      2      (39)      33
3      13      3      (78)      30
4      13      5      (143)      37
5      13      8      (247)      41
6      13      12      (403)      29
7      13      19      (650)      34
8      13      30      (1040)      40

The bankroll I have tested with is 5 losses (5x1040) 5,200

I try to win 5 times per session before quitting, unfortunately this isn't always possible....

Let's say the next number is 0, therefore we win 23 units  [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

and now we have a section of 12 numbers that have not hit for 12 spins so we can bet again (this only happens occasionally) on the numbers :-

2/4/6/13/15/17/19/21/25/27/32/34


That's about it, anybody who has any questions please post here and will try and reply ASAP.

I'm way to busy with proper work at the moment so please bear with me  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]


Will post some test data right now.... [smiley=wink.gif]


Ooops  [smiley=shocked.gif] forgot to add when I bet on 12 numbers I still use 13 numbers and the same progression....


Double Ooops [smiley=shocked.gif] If you bet 12 numbers / 12 misses or 13numbers / 11 misses John calculates that you have a 99+% of winning BUT as the test data shows This system is no "Holy Grail"  :(

xman1970

Ok here the data enjoy... [smiley=wink.gif]

Firstly here is a list of sections and their numbers....

0 - 13      0 2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34                  
1 - 3      1 3 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 28 29 31 35                  
2 - 10      2 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 25 27 30 34 36                  
3 - 6      0 2 3 4 6 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 34                  
4 - 8      2 4 6 8 11 13 17 21 25 27 30 34 36                  
5 - 7      1 5 7 9 14 16 18 20 22 24 29 31 33                  
6 - 33      5 6 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 33 36                  
7 - 2      0 2 3 4 7 12 15 19 21 26 28 32 35                   
8 - 22      1 5 8 9 10 14 16 20 22 23 24 31 33                  
9 - 15      0 3 7 9 12 15 18 22 26 28 29 32 35                  
10 - 29      1 5 9 10 14 16 18 20 22 24 29 31 33                  
11 - 31      1 5 8 10 11 14 16 20 23 24 30 31 33                  
12 - 17      0 2 3 4 12 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 35                  
13 - 20      1 5 8 10 11 13 16 20 23 24 30 33 36                  
14 - 0      0 3 7 9 12 14 18 22 26 28 29 31 35                  
15 - 11      2 4 6 11 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 34 36                  
16 - 12      1 7 9 12 14 16 18 20 22 28 29 31 33                  
17 - 24      5 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 24 27 30 34 36                  
18 - 4      0 3 4 7 12 15 18 19 26 28 29 32 35                  
19 - 30      2 4 6 11 13 17 19 21 25 27 30 34 36                  
20 - 26      3 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 26 28 29 31 35                  
21 - 23      2 6 8 11 13 17 21 23 25 27 30 34 36                  
22 - 19      0 3 7 12 15 18 19 22 26 28 29 32 35                  
23 - 18      1 5 9 10 14 16 18 20 22 23 24 31 33                   
24 - 28      1 7 9 14 16 18 20 22 24 28 29 31 33                  
25 - 5      5 6 8 10 11 13 17 23 25 27 30 34 36                  
26 - 27      0 2 4 6 15 17 19 21 25 26 27 32 34                  
27 -1     1 5 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 33 36                  
28 - 25      0 2 3 4 12 15 19 21 25 26 28 32 35                  
29 - 21      0 3 4 7 12 15 19 21 26 28 29 32 35                  
30 - 9      1 5 8 9 10 14 16 20 23 24 30 31 33                  
31 - 32      0 3 7 9 12 18 22 26 28 29 31 32 35                  
32 - 36      2 4 6 13 15 17 19 21 25 27 32 34 36                  
33 - 35      1 7 9 12 14 18 20 22 28 29 31 33 35                  
34 - 16      5 6 8 10 11 13 16 23 24 27 30 34 36                  
35 - 34      0 2 3 4 15 17 19 21 25 26 32 34 35                  
36 - 14      1 5 8 10 11 14 16 20 23 24 30 33 36                  



Spielbank online 1 4th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 98 spins +115-00 (three 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 64 spins +163-00 (two 12 bets)



Running total = +278-00





Spielbank online 1 5th august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 58 spins +135-00 (one 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 67 spins +142-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = +555-00





Spielbank online 1 6th august 2007



1st  session = 4 wins 1 loss  76 spins -941-00 (four 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 108 spins +157-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = -229-00



***Skipped to 11th august, knew 7th/8th/9th august were winners with 8 numbers & 11th/12th August were 3 losses with 8 numbers***







Spielbank online 1 11th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 70 spins +136-00 (two 12 bets)



2nd session= 2 wins 160 spins +63-00 (no 12 bets) *** too many spins, IF I was playing 4 real I would of stopped, so I did ***



Running total = -30-00





Spielbank online 1 12th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 49 spins +149-00 (no 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 160 spins +139-00 (no 12 bets)



Running total = +258-00





Spielbank online 1 13th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 122 spins +164-00 (no 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 148 spins +133-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = +555-00







Spielbank online 1 14th  august 2007



1st  session = 1 win 120 spins +30-00 (no 12 bets)  ***had to stop 1 bet in 129 spins !!!***



2nd session= 5 wins 58 spins +136-00 (no 12 bets)



Running total = +721-00





Spielbank online 1 15th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 170 spins +153-00 (one 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 78 spins +142-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = +1,016-00


More to come...

xman1970

More data  [smiley=wink.gif]


Spielbank online 1 16th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 76 spins +138-00 (one 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 65 spins +147-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = +1,301-00





Spielbank online 1 17th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 106 spins +156-00 (no 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 1274 spins +139-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = +1,596-00





Spielbank online 1 18th  august 2007



1st  session = 6 wins 28 spins +139-00 (three 12 bets)   *** amazing 6 1st progression wins ***



2nd session= 5 wins 121 spins +146-00 (three 12 bets)



Running total = +1,881-00





Spielbank online 1 19th  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 90 spins +139-00 (one 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 74 spins +149-00 (two 12 bets)



Running total = +2,169-00





Spielbank online 1 20th  august 2007



1st  session = 6 wins 46 spins +168-00 (two 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 84 spins +154-00 (two 12 bets)



Running total = +2,491-00





Spielbank online 1 21st  august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 66 spins +125-00 (two 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 67 spins +154-00 (two 12 bets)



Running total = +2,770-00





Spielbank online 1 22nd august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 82 spins +147-00 (no 12 bets)



2nd session= 5 wins 130 spins +139-00 (two 12 bets)



Running total = +3,056-00





Spielbank online 1 23rd august 2007



1st  session = 3 wins 138 spins +83-00 (one 12 bets)   *** too many spins but enough chance to bet***



2nd session= 5 wins 81 spins +140-00 (two 12 bets)



Running total = +3,279-00



Won = 152  Lost = 1  (33 sessions)



More to come...

xman1970

Here we go....

Spielbank online 1 24th august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 79 spins +170-00 (three 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 126 spins +121-00 (three 12 bets)



Running total = +3,570-00



Won = 162  Lost = 1  (35 sessions)





Spielbank online 1 25th august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 96 spins +149-00 (three 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 120 spins +23-00 (three 12 bets)  



Running total = +3,742-00



Won = 168  Lost = 1  (37 sessions)







Spielbank online 1 26th august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 79 spins +158-00 (one 12 bets)  



2nd session= 3 wins 142 spins +79-00 (no 12 bets) *** no chance 2 bet so quit****



Running total = +3,979-00



Won = 176  Lost = 1  (39 sessions)







Spielbank online 1 27th august 2007



1st  session = 4 wins 140 spins +132-00 (one 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 68 spins +151-00 (no 12 bets)



Running total = +4,183-00



Won = 182  Lost = 1  (40 sessions)







Spielbank online 1 28th august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 62 spins +129-00 (no 12 bets)  



2nd session= 1 loss 34 spins -1,040-00 (no 12 bets) ****numbers bet DIDN'T show for another 5 spins***



Running total = +3,272-00



Won = 187  Lost = 2  (42 sessions)







Spielbank online 1 29th august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 107 spins +135-00 (two 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 173 spins +156-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = +3,563-00



Won = 197  Lost = 2  (44 sessions)





Spielbank online 1 30th august 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 96 spins +157-00 (one 12 bets)  



2nd session= 8 wins 137 spins +231-00 (two 12 bets) **** had the option to keep on betting so I did****



Running total = +3,951-00



Won = 210  Lost = 2  (46 sessions)







Spielbank online 1 31st august 2007



1st  session = 3 wins 140 spins +119-00 (no 12 bets) ***no chance 2 bet***  



2nd session= 3 wins 142 spins +86-00 (no 12 bets) *** no chance 2 bet***



Running total = +4,156-00



Won = 216  Lost = 2  (48 sessions)







Spielbank online 1 1st September 2007



1st  session = 5 wins 87 spins +147-00 (no 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 130 spins +178-00 (two 12 bets)



Running total = +4,481-00



Won = 226  Lost = 2  (50 sessions)







Spielbank online 1 2nd September 2007



1st  session = 4 wins 134 spins +113-00 (two 12 bets)  



2nd session= 5 wins 80 spins +153-00 (one 12 bets)



Running total = +4,747-00



Won =235  Lost = 2  (52 sessions)





Spielbank online 1 3rd September 2007



1st  session = 1 loss 22 spins -1,007-00 (no 12 bets)  



2nd session= 6 wins 1 loss 91 spins -868-00 (one 12 bets) **** had the option to keep on betting so I did****  ****numbers bet DIDN'T show for another 2 spins***

   

Running total = +2,872-00



Won = 242  Lost = 4  (54 sessions)



Will post more when I've tested more...  [smiley=wink.gif]

xman1970

Sorry I've bloody posted this in the wrong section  [smiley=cry.gif]

Could one of you excellent administrators please put it were it belongs [smiley=dankk2.gif]

In my defence it is 03-30am in the Uk  [smiley=wink.gif]


Cheers Guys !!!!  [smiley=beer.gif]

admin

If you are reading this in the "Full Systems" section, then it worked!


xman1970

Cheers VLS  [smiley=beer.gif]

IF I had any hair, I could of claimed to of had a "blonde Moment" ;D

Hope things are good with you...  [smiley=wink.gif]


[smiley=dankk2.gif] as always for your help....

davo

I am sorry for throwing cold water on this idea, but the progression and bankroll required would exclude many ordinary forum  members. It is good to exchange ideas but there is a big difference playing in virtual mode than laying $1000 down on the table. There are simpler ways to make money if you have a bankroll of those proportions. If you are prepared to play black chips then looking for imbalances in the short term, say 20-50 spins, should offer a better way to go in my opinion. How many times do you see the last 20 spins show 16:4 ratio on even chances?  There is now an opportunity to grab a couple of units and skip.  

admin

Davo,

It is a fine observation, 16:4 I have seen it... but it is one of those "rare events".




The gist of roulette is betting the common "event" for a profit and not getting burned when the improbable happens.

If you can surf those waves, then you are a winner  [smiley=thumbup.gif]




By the way, welcome to the crew!

Victor

xman1970

Hi Davo,
             The bankroll and progression are just set to 1 unit many online casino's offer you the chance to bet 0.10 / 0.25 units on a single number. BTW you would NEVER lay down £1000 the last progression is £390  [smiley=wink.gif]

I haven't found a system betting red / black (I think that's what you are on about  :-?) that wins over a long period of so if you have one please post and share  [smiley=wink.gif]

You can see the Solitude method would of made £2,872-00 from 54 sessions

More testing to do, but I think that pretty good !!!

Thanks for your reply and I hope you enjoy your time at this forum [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

BTW, I have played this for real will 0.25 units [smiley=wink.gif]

davo

Thanks guys.  I am still against progressions which depend on the improbable not happening. We all know that it does. Perhaps for the online player this is practical, not for bricks and mortar casino. VLS I am surprised you regard 16/4 as rare. Across all even chances in roulette I find it happens regularly, within say 150-200 spins. So many other unusual events appear in that time giving the observant and patient player the opportunity. Now there are at least four pairs of even chances, R/B, H/L, O/E,  lines arranged in groups of 18. I have even seen one side of a wheel dominate to this extent. Now you wouldn't really think that was possible would you?  You could group finals in 18/19 ratio........1,3,5,7,9 and 2,4,6,8,0 if you prefer inside numbers.  The argument on long term is always popped out on forums to somehow try and convince that one particular set of rules is superior to another. It is a flawed argument in that no set of system rules is infallible against the wheel.  Only the player can adapt his play to suit his style and bankroll and maybe come out ahead consistently. What useful working ideas are gleaned from these forums are merely the first step to walking up a very steep hill. Unfortunately, many members appear to believe that one day the ultimate set of rules will be revealed that beats the game consistently for everyone. We are all individuals whose behaviour inside the casino does not always reflect the person who walked in with a clear head and clear set of rules.

Lanky

To Davo & Xman

Davo...welcome Mate.....I too sometimes see an opportunity to make some xtra units courtesy of John Solitude that Xman Is Quoting.

What I do Though is divide the single Zero wheel into half.

Draw a line from & includeing the #22 to #34 going clockwise.=19 numbers

Then still going clockwise that leaves you #6 to 9=18 number

I call them Top & bottom.

Now I have had Maltezan who is a dealer send me his tests & I have also my own tests.

In all those spins tested only twice has it gone to 10 times until it hits the other one on the 11 spin.

The Rest are from 5 to 8 times missed & then Hit.

John Solitude in His book says that for 18 to 19 to miss 7 times then its 99% plus degree of certainty to hit.
I have no reason to not believe what He says is the truth.
However from say 99.3% to a 100% can be many many spins.

So what I have done is find a 50c table & when it has missed 6 times on the bottom half I bet the 18 numbers x 50c=$9 If it wins I win $9
If that loses I bet $1 x 18=$18 if it wins I win $9
If that lost & so Far it has not I would bet $1.50 x 18=$27 if it wins I have My $54 Back
If that lost I would stop & accept the $54 loss.

Now some of our Members here have access to 10c tables so it could be a way for them to win a few dollars.

Please note I am not telling anyone to bet this way I am only saying what I have found over many thousands of spins that it could be a benefit to people in the future.To snare a few bucks here & there.

By the way the bets can be lower..knowing that one day I would put this forward..I looked ahead & designed those numbers so that the splits could be taken.
The splits are Z/1..5/8..6/9..10/11..13/14..16..20..23/24.. 27/30..33/36..31=$5.50 on a 50c wheel.
Or $1.10 on a 10c table

Now please both Davo & Xman read on.

Xman.....Mate I have posted My evens plan in ( Lanky's Evens System ) section.

It works on all the even bets=Red Black...Odd Even...High & Low I prefer Red Black,high & Low.

I don't know if it will work long time or not but I have used it for about 3 years.

Now My Balls & I have become firm friends over the years.

And I am sure that relationship will continue providing I don't lose them.

So I am Loath to bet Them.

But On this occasion I will.

I will bet You that as Victor has said about the Lw pattern being there since roulette started.
So has My evens Plan.

They have both been there all this time...what it took was for someone to see them & tell about them.

Both Plans don't suit a lot of people because they involve sitting in virtual or waiting for the patterns to form so that they can be bet on.

They suit Me just fine because I am a Strategic Player that wants to bet when the Percentages are in My Favour to Win most times......And If I get the Time-line right then I am on My way to Winning.

Of Course there are never any Guarantees with any plan Especially when my Balls are at risk..lol

Your Friend

Lanky






















xman1970

 [smiley=dankk2.gif] Lankey I will take a look at your Evens Systems and see what's what.

ALWAYS looking for new ways to play  [smiley=wink.gif]



Cheers... [smiley=beer.gif]

admin

QuoteVLS I am surprised you regard 16/4 as rare.

You are right. I have seen the marquee at my local casino (about 14 numbers) full of only one color,  -this is RARE-, or with as little as 1 or 2 of one color with a "so so" frequency.

Since I'm not much of an even chances player I'm not monitoring all the even chances at once all the time. I basically only see/notice red/black at the marquee.

...Let's degrade it from the word "rare" then. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

QuoteI find it happens regularly, within say 150-200 spins.

For some people 150-200 spins is one full session mate.

You know, as with boob size, the ceiling of a regular guy is the floor for a big boobie lover.  [smiley=wink.gif]

davo

I guess I have some advantage here as the VDU displays the last twenty numbers so it is quite easy to follow any number of even chances. I understand it is not so easy trying to follow marquees that only display 14 numbers. The event is certainly not rare and that 150 spins or so is just a guess. I suspect it happens more often. There seems to be some prominent members of these forums who have some aversion to playing the even chances in preference to dozens, columns, lines and inside numbers. I like comparing some of the methods that have been offered on this forum and others to see if there is any advantage not playing an even chance over 18 numbers scattered around the wheel. I haven't found a significant difference as yet. Amazing how the ball manages to weave its way around numbers when you think you have covered all possible options. Anyway back to the 16/4 caper:  the astute player should be able to take advantage of these situations to accumulate a couple of units consistently without resorting to life-saving progressions. To me 150-200 spins might be a session, but it is definitely worth the wait to find these imbalances. I suppose that doesn't suit some players who want easy rules and instant profits.  I put Lanky's even chance system through my last session on R/B and H/L  and the results were 10W/13L  and 22W/16L.  Only a small sample but the idea is good for a few units and does not appear to have wild swings of wins and losses so don't need large bankroll to support downswings.  

davo

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