Playing The John Solitude Way....

[Lanky]

 I put Lanky's even chance system through my last session on R/B and H/L  and the results were 10W/13L  and 22W/16L.  Only a small sample but the idea is good for a few units and does not appear to have wild swings of wins and losses so don't need large bankroll to support downswings.  

Mate I would Like to see How You played Them.

Because the 10W/13L & the 22W/16L  <<can be misleading

Or could You Post the numbers here for Me Please.

Thanks Cobber

Lanky

[davo]

Hi Lanky,

I played them exactly as per your rules. Wait for one chance to appear three or more then the opposite chance to appear less than three on three separate occasions. Then bet against that chance after it next appears. Stop if this chance appears three times, that is after two losing bets. Then requalify next chance. I could put the numbers down but it is time consuming. What part is likely to be misleading?

[Lanky]

well for argument Sake

You coul have

L=1 bet -1
W=2 bet=+1=[1] Profit
L=1 bet -1
W=2 bet=1+1={2] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+2=[3] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+3=[4] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+4=[5] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+5=[6] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+6=[7] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+7=[8] Profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+8=[9] profit
L=1 bet-1
W=2 bet=1+9=[10] profit
L=1 bet-1
L=2 bet -3.......

22 bets for 10 wins & 12 loses

Still gives you {7] profit  Mate

Thats the sort of thing I am talking about Davo

Lanky

[davo]

Lanky,
I just presented the raw win/loss data. Not to be termed misleading really. But you are talking about money management and progressions. That is up to the player I guess as there are many different ways to tackle even chances with progressions, some aggressive, some conservative which is my preference. Either way the basic win/loss ratio is as it is according to the rules.

[Lanky]

Lanky,
I just presented the raw win/loss data. Not to be termed misleading really. But you are talking about money management and progressions. That is up to the player I guess as there are many different ways to tackle even chances with progressions, some aggressive, some conservative which is my preference. Either way the basic win/loss ratio is as it is according to the rules.

Davo....Mate

I did not mean that you were misleading anything.....lets get that straight first.

What I said was that the win ratio could be misleading as I pointed out.....nothing about you personally.

And of course You are right everyone has the right to play the even chance anyway they want.

But I did not design the system to be played that way There has to be a 1 + 2 bet to begin with.

or otherwise you will only break even & not win on the 2nd bet Cobber.

You can play it as You see it but its not the way as per the rules as I stated them.

Lanky

[davo]

I didn't take it personally Lanky.  Now using your 1-2 unit bets the results would have been +10 for H/L and -7 for R/B. I feel that it is possible to improve on these figures with the plus coup progression but the risk could be greater.

[Lanky]

Mate

It is there to be improved on Cobber.

That's the reason I put it there so someone Like Yourself maybe can improve on what I Have done.

It can go 20 plus win bets(1+2) before the trend ends Mate

I think the most I saw was 33 win bets before the oposite came up.

Used in conjuction with some other way of playing is really good Mate.

I love it  but if someone improved it I would love it a lot more ......LOL

Good On Ya Mate

Lanky

[Jakkalsdraai]

Hi guys. Just thought you'd like to know.

On Sat**day I went to Grand West Casino in Cape Town. Spent the whole day there and played the touch screen Roulette.

Recorded +/- 400 spins with several relief groupiers involved.
I noticed the following.

If I took the 0 and 6 numbers to the left of that, and I took 6 numbers to the right from the 0 as well, for a total of 13 numbers altogether, I found that this sector hit 39%. I realized that the groupiers often try and hit the zero. I found that the zero came up 2,8% of the 400 spins. Doesn't seem to be alot right? Well either side of the zero featured pretty prominent. Why try and hit zero? Well alot of people play outside bets, what a way to wack 'em right? There was also 2 x 0 double spins in the 400 spins. Never were there more than 5 straight spins not hitting in the sector and this happened about only 4-5 times. I think Mr. Solitude has got something here. Well think about it, if you believe that groupiers can at least hit sections on a wheel and that the zero usually causes alot of damage, then why not try and spin it! I'm definately going to try something in this direction next time round. Lanky gave me some good advice...AGAIN, and he recons one could play the top half of the wheel if the zero featurus up north. If Lanky says so then it is so! I recon this will be quite interesting and given the spins recorded I think that he would of had beautiful results.

Anyhow, thought I'd share

Cheers 'till later

[Jakkalsdraai]

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Hi again,
went to Dublinbet and tried my sector around 0.

38 spins, 15 spins in my sector going clockwise from and including 7 to and including 2.

started with 500 playmoney ended with 1097.

Was it luck?
I still believe this sector is prominent because of the 0

[xman1970]

Hi Jakkalsdraai,
                          I think dublinbet is a good place to play this, I've been on there at say 3/4 am and as the dealers have no customers they do seem to go for that zero [smiley=laugh.gif]


Also welcome to the forum, I hope you enjoy your time here... [smiley=wink.gif]

[Jakkalsdraai]

The above 38 spins were on table 2 and were as follows:

0 - W
11 - L
33 - L
12 - W
26 - W
4 - W
31 - L
3 - W
1 - L
2 - W
2 - W
7 - W
36 - L
10 - L
29 - L
15 - W
13 - L
6 - L
25 - L
11 - L
15 - W
14 - L
12 - W
2 - W
27 - L
19 - W
3 - W
35 - W

[Jakkalsdraai]

Yep, but on Sat**day at Grand West in Cape Town, +/- 39% in that same sector. Groupiers also aim for zero

[Jakkalsdraai]

Thanx for the welcome.

Much appreciated.

cheers  

[xman1970]

Not a problem  [smiley=wink.gif]

You need to remember those first results are from 38 spins, the general benchmark for testing a system / method is 10,000 spins  [smiley=shocked.gif]

You need to go through the highs n lows to find out if it has staying power.....  [smiley=wink.gif]

[cps10]

I think there is merit to that type of situation that Jakkalsdraai is pointing out. It could work in double instances with the American wheel.

I would probably be inclined to play situationally in this case. A certain imbalance of the wheel, or perhaps a long streak of not hitting that sector would be the "trigger" to play.

Mathematically, you have a 35% chance of hitting with those numbers on a Euro wheel; 34+% on the American wheel. Maybe a test of 10 spins yields only 1 hit in a sample, therefore maybe begin play for the wheel to "correct" itself using a pluscoup or ATILA progression. Or, as was said before - 5 straight losses in that sector and begin play there. As was said before, "there are several ways to skin a cat".

[cps10]

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